FX's The People v. O.J. Simpson feels as compelling today as it did in 1995

[Babalu]

Originally Posted by Vahan

That could be changing now. In 20/20's special on O.J., last Fall, they revealed that 3/4 of Americans, including a majority of African-Americans, think he probably is guilty. Compared to 62% from over 20 years ago.

It wasn't that black people didn't think OJ was guilty.

They didn't care that he was guilty.

Killing white people and getting away with it was what made OJ a hero to blacks.

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Originally Posted by Babalu

It wasn't that black people didn't think OJ was guilty.

They didn't care that he was guilty.

Killing white people and getting away with it was what made OJ a hero to blacks.

I don't necessarily agree. I think it was more of a response to what happened with the Rodney King trial, etc.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by Babalu

Even Jesse Jackson said he's afraid of young black men on the street. The harsh reality is people are afraid of young black men for a reason.

Kim Goldman's brother was murdered by a black man for no reason and OJ got away with it. Not only that, most black people cheered as if they won the lottery when he got away with it. She has every right to say anything she wants to about race.

The whole thing about black people cheering is way more complex than that! It didn't necessarily have more to do with OJ Simpson than it did the feeling that the black community finally "got one over" on the LAPD. Bare in mind that the trial happened to too long after the Rodney King incident and the subsequent Los Angeles riots.

And if you're taking Jesse Jackson as a point of reference for how most black people think, then you pretty much haven't seen South Park.

[Babalu]

Originally Posted by TMC

The whole thing about black people cheering is way more complex than that! It didn't necessarily have more to do with OJ Simpson than it did the feeling that the black community finally "got one over" on the LAPD. Bare in mind that the trial happened to too long after the Rodney King incident and the subsequent Los Angeles riots.

And if you're taking Jesse Jackson as a point of reference for how most black people think, then you pretty much haven't seen South Park.

No, I don't watch South Park or care what they say.

Black culture has graduated from Jesse Jackson to murdering rapper street thugs. Unfortunately many whites have followed them.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by Babalu

No, I don't watch South Park or care what they say.

Black culture has graduated from Jesse Jackson to murdering rapper street thugs. Unfortunately many whites have followed them.

Are you seriously with that sort of broad generalization of one particular culture (what street do you live on)!? And since you don't watch South Park, the main point that it was trying to make was that Jesse Jackson doesn't represent or speak for all African-Americans (hence Token telling Stan that "Jessie Jackson isn't the emperor of black people!"). For example, when Michael Richards and Paula Dean made said those offensive terms about black people, they seemed to think that immediately going to Jesse Jackson would be the easiest route to make the situation "better".

[Babalu]

Originally Posted by TMC

Are you seriously with that sort of broad generalization of one particular culture (what street do you live on)!? And since you don't watch South Park, the main point that it was trying to make was that Jesse Jackson doesn't represent or speak for all African-Americans (hence Token telling Stan that "Jessie Jackson isn't the emperor of black people!"). For example, when Michael Richards and Paula Dean made said those offensive terms about black people, they seemed to think that immediately going to Jesse Jackson would be the easiest route to make the situation "better".

They ran to Jesse Jackson because the media obsesses over incidents like that into a feeding frenzy until their careers are over or they apologized to (and paid off) Jesse Jackson. Once they caved in and apologized to Jesse the media would back off. Yet if you are one of the politically correct groups you can say anything you want and the media will leave you alone.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by ILuvCarolBurnett

Kim said in an interview once her and her family became upset that all the attention was going to Nicole Simpson. Kim's line was, "My brother was murdered too." and they have taken it upon themselves to keep Ron's name before the public just as much as Nicole's. Also, the Goldman's were upset with some of the early allegations as to the nature of Ron & Nicole's relationship. Had they been lovers? I even recall rumors circulating that Goldman was an escort.

It seems like Kim and her family want to hold on to the narrative that if her brother had to die at least he didn't necessarily die in vain. In other words, Kim Goldman likes to say that Ron died a "heroic death". I've heard the theory that by the time that Ron showed up, Nicole was already dead and Ron tried to put up a valiant fight (he apparently practiced martial arts) against the killer.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by ILuvCarolBurnett

Kim said in an interview once her and her family became upset that all the attention was going to Nicole Simpson. Kim's line was, "My brother was murdered too." and they have taken it upon themselves to keep Ron's name before the public just as much as Nicole's. Also, the Goldman's were upset with some of the early allegations as to the nature of Ron & Nicole's relationship. Had they been lovers? I even recall rumors circulating that Goldman was an escort.

http://ijr.com/2017/07/934833-ron-go...l-estate-cash/

Disgraced Pro Football Hall of Famer O.J. Simpson has been under increased scrutiny in light of his being granted parole for a 2007 armed robbery he was convicted of organizing. In particular, the matter of the millions he owes in a civil wrongful death judgment for causing the deaths of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ron Goldman, has come up quite a bit.

Since Simpson was acquitted of criminal charges, the victims' families, particularly Goldman's, have long viewed collecting as the only way to properly punish him. Unfortunately for the Goldmans, Simpson moved to Florida in advance of the lawsuit, and as a result, the Sunshine State's laws that specifically protect things like pensions made it incredibly difficult for them to get anything out of him.

However, the New York Post reported on Monday that there may be a new red flag in the Simpson family's finances. In the last two years, O.J.'s now-grown children with Nicole, Sydney and Justin, have bought 13 different properties without mortgages. Both are homeowners, but both of their personal dwellings, unlike the new acquisitions, do have mortgages.

It doesn't appear that the Simpsons have the cash to buy the buildings, so learning where the money came from and whether O.J. was involved could become a priority for the Goldman family's attorneys. The real estate holdings in question were purchased for a total of $549,100 between Justin and Sydney's companies.

The Simpsons did not respond to the Post's requests for comment, while the lawyer for Fred Goldman, Ron's father, said that “[their] loss is no greater than Fred’s, but Fred’s loss should be no greater than theirs.” Sydney and Justin did not appear at their father's parole hearing, and neither did their half-brother Jason. Of the children, only Jason's sister Arnelle was present.

[Yong Fang]

This was a great miniseries and watched it faithfully every week and hated it when I had to wait a week. It really caught the essense of what happened and why did it happen the way it did.

The only two things that might take points away was that Cuba Gooding Jr., while a good actor was not really convincing as OJ Simpson. Then there is John Travolta, that some may not like. I thought he was Ok in this and he has the California vibe about him and did Shapiro well enough.

OJ was the central character, but he was actually too a minor character. The miniseries was about everyone else. Marcia Clark (who was really the central character here) Christopher Darden, OJ's lawyers, Johnny Cochran, Lance Ito, the Goldman's down to, which I found the most interesting, the jurors themselves and their difficulties. The jurors were sequestered, were not allowed to read outside material, see their family more than rarely, had to be together at all times or basically locked up in their rooms, like prisoners themselves. Eating the same, institutional Holiday Inn cooking day after day after day after day after day. Then there is the Seinfeld vs. Martin scene. I hate Martin, it's ghetto and stupid, but the majority were blacks, so they got to watch Martin and you could either watch it or get escorted back to your cell, I mean room to sleep since there is nothing else to do. This lasted for 9-10 months.

Fascinating work. I wish they would do one on Jeffrey Dahmer and have it again, look more on the angle of everyone else in his life, from his parents and family, the police, the lead detectives (one was named Patrick Kennedy who would be a major character), his neighbor he befriended in his last apartment, and the families of the victims.

[Babalu]

Originally Posted by Yong Fang

This was a great miniseries and watched it faithfully every week and hated it when I had to wait a week. It really caught the essense of what happened and why did it happen the way it did.

The only two things that might take points away was that Cuba Gooding Jr., while a good actor was not really convincing as OJ Simpson. Then there is John Travolta, that some may not like. I thought he was Ok in this and he has the California vibe about him and did Shapiro well enough.

OJ was the central character, but he was actually too a minor character. The miniseries was about everyone else. Marcia Clark (who was really the central character here) Christopher Darden, OJ's lawyers, Johnny Cochran, Lance Ito, the Goldman's down to, which I found the most interesting, the jurors themselves and their difficulties. The jurors were sequestered, were not allowed to read outside material, see their family more than rarely, had to be together at all times or basically locked up in their rooms, like prisoners themselves. Eating the same, institutional Holiday Inn cooking day after day after day after day after day. Then there is the Seinfeld vs. Martin scene. I hate Martin, it's ghetto and stupid, but the majority were blacks, so they got to watch Martin and you could either watch it or get escorted back to your cell, I mean room to sleep since there is nothing else to do. This lasted for 9-10 months.

Fascinating work. I wish they would do one on Jeffrey Dahmer and have it again, look more on the angle of everyone else in his life, from his parents and family, the police, the lead detectives (one was named Patrick Kennedy who would be a major character), his neighbor he befriended in his last apartment, and the families of the victims.

I didn't watch this series at all but I did watch the real thing when it happened. Your comment about OJ being too minor a character is interesting because that's exactly what happened in real life. The fact that OJ was insanely obviously guilty was virtually ignored the entire trial. The best line I heard about it came a few days before the verdict from of all people, comedian David Brenner. He was on Letterman. He began by saying that Johnny Cochran was making some sort of argument and Marcia Clark objected, then Cochran objected about her objection, then Darden objected, then Shapiro objected and everyone was yelling at everyone else. Then right in the middle of all this OJ gets up from his seat and screams, "I can't take this anymore. I've had it. OK, I did it! Do you hear me, I did it!" Then everyone in the courtroom turns to OJ and says, "Did what?"

[TMC]

Originally Posted by ILuvCarolBurnett

Kim said in an interview once her and her family became upset that all the attention was going to Nicole Simpson. Kim's line was, "My brother was murdered too." and they have taken it upon themselves to keep Ron's name before the public just as much as Nicole's. Also, the Goldman's were upset with some of the early allegations as to the nature of Ron & Nicole's relationship. Had they been lovers? I even recall rumors circulating that Goldman was an escort.

I'm pretty much bumping this in light of the recent news of O.J. Simpson's passing and to provide of some additional context about what the Goldmans said about the George Zimmerman-Trayvon Martin case:

• Ron Goldman’s sister feels for Trayvon Martin’s family; shares how it feels when verdict goes awry