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Old 04-09-2016, 02:11 PM   #46
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Can the networks give Sarah Paulson her own show so we can see her gorgeousness every week?

Honestly, Sarah Paulson is what I would create if God told me I can make an ideal woman.
She should win an Emmy for her performance. It was very realistic.
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Old 04-09-2016, 02:16 PM   #47
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While I of course sympathize w/ the Goldmans, I as much it pains me to say it, do more than often find Fred and Kim's open grief a bit off-putting. The actor who they got to play Fred Goldman (Joseph Siravo, who previously played Johnny Boy Sorpano on The Sopranos) actually did a very good job channeling the real Fred's volume and energy. I guess in contrast to Nicole Brown's family members, Fred and Kim can seem rather brash.

Maybe it's easy to grow weary of them because they in the past 20 years, can't seem to channel their grief and anger into something more constructive or positive. Take for example, John Walsh or Marc Klaas, who lost their son and daughter, Adam and Polly, respectively in horrific manners. Or even Nicole's sister Denise, who has used her grief, to help victims of domestic violence. With the Goldmans, it just on the surface seems like that they've allowed OJ Simpson to continue to victimize them even though he's now in prison (no, not for what happened to Ron and Nicole, but still, it had something to do w/ the civil suit filed by the Goldmans).

I lost a lot of respect for Kim Goldman when she went on CNN w/ Piers Morgan and commented about the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman verdict. Basically, she said that we should accept the verdict (even though unlike w/ OJ Simpson, where it was really circumstantial, it was "open and shut" that Zimmerman killed Martin) and that race had nothing to do w/ it.
Kim said in an interview once her and her family became upset that all the attention was going to Nicole Simpson. Kim's line was, "My brother was murdered too." and they have taken it upon themselves to keep Ron's name before the public just as much as Nicole's. Also, the Goldman's were upset with some of the early allegations as to the nature of Ron & Nicole's relationship. Had they been lovers? I even recall rumors circulating that Goldman was an escort.
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For anyone who may be accusing the Goldmans of being anti-black, they're not. They agreed to appear on Steve Harvey's talk show recently.
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Ironically, I just finished watching this about an hour ago on my. I should mention at the time I was considering law school and the guy I was dating then was a producer at the big radio station running the trial and then a live talk back show afterwards.

This will probably be the only time I put Kardashian and moral and decent in the same sentence. Robert Kardashian was a much better guy than I realized. Unlike most of the other lawyers, he was in it because OJ was his friend. While I think OJ is guilty people stick with their friends because they don't want to think they are guilty. I had a friend like that and like him I walked away. I found it interesting there was a scene with his kids and he mentions being moral was more important than fame. He'd be ashamed of the girls.

The rest of the defense lawyers. Shapiro struck me as, well a lawyer. I didn't get the feeling he did it for the fame but rather a job. Cochran though, ugh he was a piece of work. Horrible guy, abusive, a cheater and race baiter if not a racist. F Lee Bailey was in it for the attention.

The prosecution. I think both Marcia Clark and Chris Darden were unfairly attacked. Darden was called an Uncle Tom and to me this wasn't about race. Clark was attacked by sexist remarks. In general both came off as good people. Unlike the other lawyers, they were portrayed as friends as well as coworkers.

The OJ (Cuba Gooding Jr)was to me better looking than the real OJ and not as creepy. He didn't look sneaky like the real one.

The Goldmans. My heart broke for them because they were the truly innocent. Nicole Brown was too but she made a choice to marry and stay with OJ at first. I doubt Ron Goldman even knew OJ.
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For anyone who may be accusing the Goldmans of being anti-black, they're not. They agreed to appear on Steve Harvey's talk show recently.
They didn't strike me as racist. To me the only overt racist was Mark Fuhrman who was caught on tape. Johnny Cochran I'm not sure if he was racist per se but definitely a race baiter. He after all had a white girlfriend at one time. I hated they (the original case not the series) made it about race, when it wasn't.
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Old 04-11-2016, 04:56 PM   #51
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Default Former L.A. D.A. Gil Garcetti calls The People v. O.J. Simpson “very misleading,” say

http://nypost.com/2016/04/10/former-...k-on-oj-trial/

The 74-year-old Garcetti — the father of the Hollywood-friendly current mayor of Los Angeles — has only watched the first three episodes and has the rest of the season recorded. “They are making up the dialogue; it’s very misleading,” he tells the NY Post. Garcetti insists that he never wanted Clark to be the lead prosecutor. “She wasn’t my choice — I didn’t pick her,” he says. As for Simpson himself, Garcetti surprisingly thinks he got an unfair sentence for his armed robbery conviction. “If it were a white guy, a white Heisman Trophy winner . . . there’s no way that anyone else would have gotten 33 years for that,” he says.
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I do think he got a harsh sentence for the robbery but I don't think it was because he's black. I think it's because many still think he's guilty.
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Is it just me or was it intentional that Robert Shapiro be portrayed as a buffoon?
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The news that the Menendez brothers and JonBenet Ramsey would follow the true-crime path of The People v. O.J. Simpson and Making a Murderer begs the question of how much is too much. "It’s hard to ignore the public’s hunger for homicide,” says Jenn Wood, "but there are only so many Jeffrey Dahmers and Ted Bundys in this world. That’s a good thing for society at large. But for TV’s latest, hottest trend, it may predict a short, but violently entertaining, life.”
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The news that the Menendez brothers and JonBenet Ramsey would follow the true-crime path of The People v. O.J. Simpson and Making a Murderer begs the question of how much is too much. "It’s hard to ignore the public’s hunger for homicide,” says Jenn Wood, "but there are only so many Jeffrey Dahmers and Ted Bundys in this world. That’s a good thing for society at large. But for TV’s latest, hottest trend, it may predict a short, but violently entertaining, life.”
It'll be a change of pace from the junk reality shows and bitchy Housewives of such and such.
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Personally, I think a great story for them to do would be the arrest and trial of Jeffrey Dahmer, the cannibal sex serial killer in Milwaukee who killed 17 people.

This was a pretty decent documentary called "The Jeffrey Dahmer Files". It can be easily found on Youtube. I have seen it several times. This is the IMDB....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1779076/

Part of it was some bad acting of Jeffrey Dahmer, who is not stalking or killing people and doing mundane activities. That can be skipped (or watched, I suggest you skip it....

What is interesting is the interviews with the late police detective Patrick Kennedy and a woman (African American) neighbor who lived across the hall who was an acquaintence of Dahmer. Kennedy was a recovering alcoholic who made a relationship with Dahmer through their long interviews, who had a rocky marriage which dissolved by the time the trial was over. Kennedy himself passed away of a sudden heart attack a few years ago which is sad because he seemed like a great guy who was a great storyteller. He is the one with the large handlebar mustache by the way.

The neighbor lady gave some great insight of what life was like the weeks and months after the arrest of Dahmer and having literally thousands of people and media from all over the World literally descend on this poor housing area. He was not in this documentary but Lionel Dahmer as the father who had to come to grips with what happened to his son and the trial and having to sit through said trial and meet and probably confronted with the victim's families. The there is Jeff Dahmer himself and what he went through.

I think this would be an excellent successor of this series.
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For anyone who may be accusing the Goldmans of being anti-black, they're not. They agreed to appear on Steve Harvey's talk show recently.
I'm not necessarily accusing Kim Goldman or her family of being "anti-black" per se. In regards to her comments on the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman situation, they just struck me as extremely naive, closed-minded (she doesn't want to realize the harsh reality that blacks, especially young black men are normally viewed differently or more scrutinized than whites) and hypocritical.
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I'm not necessarily accusing Kim Goldman or her family of being "anti-black" per se. In regards to her comments on the Trayvon Martin-George Zimmerman situation, they just struck me as extremely naive, closed-minded (she doesn't want to realize the harsh reality that blacks, especially young black men are normally viewed differently or more scrutinized than whites) and hypocritical.
Even Jesse Jackson said he's afraid of young black men on the street. The harsh reality is people are afraid of young black men for a reason.

Kim Goldman's brother was murdered by a black man for no reason and OJ got away with it. Not only that, most black people cheered as if they won the lottery when he got away with it. She has every right to say anything she wants to about race.
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Is it just me or was it intentional that Robert Shapiro be portrayed as a buffoon?

I know, Right? It wasn't just you. John Travolta played Shapiro to act the fool! I really don't think the real Robert Shapiro is that goofy! But it sure was comic relief for the show!
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Kim Goldman's brother was murdered by a black man for no reason and OJ got away with it. Not only that, most black people cheered as if they won the lottery when he got away with it.
That could be changing now. In 20/20's special on O.J., last Fall, they revealed that 3/4 of Americans, including a majority of African-Americans, think he probably is guilty. Compared to 62% from over 20 years ago.
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