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View Full Version : Most Interesting Charley Project Stories Arnold_OldSchool 02-21-2016, 02:57 AM Thanks for the effort in finding these Laura77 02-21-2016, 09:10 AM Forensic Files played this one last night: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/ogrady_jessica.html And the latest blog post from Meghan has her talking about going off her meds and sitting on the couch watching all the housework pile up. She went to her neighbor for assistance in washing the dishes and you can imagine how that turned out. And 3 more selfies. I read that the other day and thought ". They're gonna love this one over at the Unsolved Mysteries board!" wiseguy182 02-23-2016, 12:58 AM In an extremely odd coincidence, I am going through all the cases again (in backwards chronological order) and had left off at this one...and then it popped up on a 20/20 episode I was adding to my collection. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hawks_jackie.html The episode had some additional info: Skyler and Jennifer Deleon were quite young at the time and were living in his parents garage with one child and one on the way, were deeply in debt and no way in the world to pay for a luxurious yacht. It was theorized that Thomas, who was a probation officer, would have been suspicious of them from the start, but Jennifer was instrumental in using her children to gain their trust. She is described as being the brains and the main instigator of the whole thing and is also described as being a gold digger. While the various crimes Skyler has committed are absolutely horrible, he is quite obviously insane and had a HORRIBLE childhood that was filled with constant abuse (both physical and sexual), was what I called tortured, and also introduced to drug use by his father at an extremely young age. He wanted so desperately to become a woman that he attempted to cut off his own penis. His father messed him up very badly and he was easily influenced by his controlling wife, Jennifer Deleon. While he hasn't expressed remorse for his killings, he also has shown no interest in his own safety and has attempted to injure himself. Skyler was a child actor who appeared in an episode of Power Rangers (one of my nephews was hugely into that show back in the day). Myron Gardner isn't mentioned in the episode at all, which makes sense since he apparently wasn't involved in any capacity. Some authorities said that Skyler was so calm and convincing in the beginning that they believed him. The Hawks' bodies are unlikely to ever surface as they were presumably dumped in one of the deepest parts of the ocean. Corkys-Place 02-23-2016, 01:24 AM Forensic Files played this one last night: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/ogrady_jessica.html And the latest blog post from Meghan has her talking about going off her meds and sitting on the couch watching all the housework pile up. She went to her neighbor for assistance in washing the dishes and you can imagine how that turned out. And 3 more selfies. Who on earth approaches their neighbour asking for assistance with washing the dishes? I guess if you were incapacitated due to an accident of some type they might help you out. :confused: dolly1980 02-23-2016, 11:12 PM http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/beltran-sedano_jose.html This young man was beaten and taken by gunpoint in front of his girlfriend. His car was later found fire. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/goodman_june.html This lady disappeared very close to where I'm living right now. Very sad and bizarre case. wiseguy182 02-24-2016, 03:58 AM I can't make any degree of sense whatsoever in this one. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/centeno_deborah.html dolly1980 02-24-2016, 04:17 PM http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/crocker_jeremy.html This one is really odd. Man investigating TWA 800 crash disappears. Laura77 02-24-2016, 08:47 PM I can't make any degree of sense whatsoever in this one. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/centeno_deborah.html Also, Meghan has had only a few blog posts this month and hasn't added any resolved cases at all this month, which is well below the norm. I think the site has gotten to be too much for her and I wouldn't be surprised if she sells it or whatever in the future. Many folks have offered to help her out/fill in for her, myself included, for YEARS, but she will not let anyone else in The Charley Project world. Laura77 02-25-2016, 08:23 PM Right. I learned that from first-hand experience awhile back. What really slays me is even blog posting is limited strictly to her. Sure people can comment on stuff she writes, but it usually just gets buried in the comments section of an off-topic thread and quickly forgotten. Meghan is back on stream. A couple days worth of updates at least. wiseguy182 02-26-2016, 12:38 AM Oh Lord. The infamous John Pash has resurfaced on the Websleuths thread regarding Roger Ellison. Haven't had a chance to read it yet but I can just imagine what's on there. I just hope he doesn't come here and start attacking us. Laura77 02-26-2016, 08:09 AM Oh Lord. The infamous John Pash has resurfaced on the Websleuths thread regarding Roger Ellison. Haven't had a chance to read it yet but I can just imagine what's on there. I just hope he doesn't come here and start attacking us. Wasn't he Roger's teacher or something like that? wiseguy182 02-26-2016, 08:15 AM Wasn't he Roger's teacher or something like that? Yes. He coached sports and taught History and Psychology. Laura77 02-26-2016, 12:42 PM I love this recent line of hers regarding resolved cases: "Minus resolves. I’ll get to those later. Or something." Sounds incredibly optimistic. :lol: Unless the missing sock causes another delay.:p Laura77 02-27-2016, 10:00 AM Meghan got miffed at me because she had posted one of her lists about people vanishing from gas stations. I very kindly commented that she had left out Cheryl Ann Scherer who vanished from a gas station while on duty in April, 1979. I thought leaving her off the list was odd indeed, because Cheryl had just been the missing person of the week, for the Charley Project, a short time prior. Anyway, Meghan wasn't very nice about it, poor Cheryl didn't get added to that list to my knowledge. Whatever. wiseguy182 02-28-2016, 12:53 PM Now we're talking! As Laura recently noted, there are finally some updates, including a lot of new, or should I say "cold and old" cases. That's perfectly fine as those people shouldn't be forgotten. Here are a few of them. WARNING: EXTREMELY DISTURBING http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tredway_luke.html http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/padilla_alicia.html wiseguy182 02-29-2016, 12:39 AM Dateline had this one tonight on a 90 minute episode. Case involving an elaborate scheme involving a man paying someone to impersonate him in an attempt to manufacture an alibi. Definitely seems like the ex-husband murdered her, but the complete lack of blood, physical evidence and a body is weird. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stewart_venus.html wiseguy182 02-29-2016, 09:31 AM I just read John Pash's latest ramblings on Websleuths, most of which is repetitive and completely off-topic. He spends a lot of time bashing the entire Websleuths community and practically everyone that lived in Cederledge, CO in 1981. He describes the community as being extremely backwards to the point that they regularly viewed technology as evil. It sounds, at the very least, embellished. Take it with a grain of salt, but Pash claims that he was aware that Roger was experiencing a personal problem or two and claims that Roger had some bizarre answers to a class assignment involving Freud, but doesn't elaborate on those issues further, citing that he was asked by police not to disclose the info in fear of compromising the investigation. He is completely in the camp that Roger ran away, but like everything else he says, he doesn't provide any facts or even sound opinions to back it up, instead going off on weird tangents. As I said before, it's entirely possible Pash is innocent. However I, at the very least, find him to be an odd duck. unsolved88 02-29-2016, 02:11 PM This case is truly bizarre. A couple thinks they found their missing son badly beaten almost beyond recognition, but dental records confirm that it's a different boy! http://charleyproject.org/cases/h/harvey_christopher.html wiseguy182 03-02-2016, 07:38 AM This case is truly bizarre. A couple thinks they found their missing son badly beaten almost beyond recognition, but dental records confirm that it's a different boy! http://charleyproject.org/cases/h/harvey_christopher.html That is bizarre, I'll have to try and do some research on it. I guess my main questions are, if that wasn't Christopher, then who was it? Did he recover? What was the motive for his beating? Tighthead 03-02-2016, 08:01 AM I just read John Pash's latest ramblings on Websleuths, most of which is repetitive and completely off-topic. He spends a lot of time bashing the entire Websleuths community and practically everyone that lived in Cederledge, CO in 1981. He describes the community as being extremely backwards to the point that they regularly viewed technology as evil. It sounds, at the very least, embellished. Take it with a grain of salt, but Pash claims that he was aware that Roger was experiencing a personal problem or two and claims that Roger had some bizarre answers to a class assignment involving Freud, but doesn't elaborate on those issues further, citing that he was asked by police not to disclose the info in fear of compromising the investigation. He is completely in the camp that Roger ran away, but like everything else he says, he doesn't provide any facts or even sound opinions to back it up, instead going off on weird tangents. As I said before, it's entirely possible Pash is innocent. However I, at the very least, find him to be an odd duck. He reminds me of Tim Bidner. I see him as crazy, but not guilty. I don't think a guilty person would be so conspicuous, and a sane person would just act differently. unsolved88 03-02-2016, 01:28 PM That is bizarre, I'll have to try and do some research on it. I guess my main questions are, if that wasn't Christopher, then who was it? Did he recover? What was the motive for his beating? They did find out who it was. His name was Scott Yoos. Not sure of the motive though. http://www.nytimes.com/1984/11/04/us/a-family-presses-search-for-son-who-is-missing.html Apparently, Scott Yoos was arrested in 2012 and it caused a bit of a scandal. http://janineslittlehollywood.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/scott-yoos-trial-scheduled-for-august.html?m=1 5353 03-03-2016, 03:56 PM You know, the more I think about it, the more I think she's all ME ME ME ME ME ME!! Because she didn't think of them, she doesn't want them added to the list. She wants to control everything right down to the last detail. It's also not mobile friendly and needs a serious site redesign. I think it's a little odd that she's wrote the HTML in such a way that you can't select and copy text and paste elsewhere, like this thread. I understand she's put a ton of work into the site, but someone oughta tell her you can just view the page source and copy it that way... :happyface wiseguy182 03-11-2016, 02:51 PM They did find out who it was. His name was Scott Yoos. Not sure of the motive though. http://www.nytimes.com/1984/11/04/us/a-family-presses-search-for-son-who-is-missing.html Apparently, Scott Yoos was arrested in 2012 and it caused a bit of a scandal. http://janineslittlehollywood.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/scott-yoos-trial-scheduled-for-august.html?m=1 wow, how unfortunate. I can't be entirely sure of what happened, but Yoos seems unlikely to be guilty of criminal trespass, considering he was wearing a reflective vest and has a history of helping people. They questioned him for throwing away napkins? The first article stated that Yoos had been hitchhiking when he was assaulted in 1984, so that clears up some things. Although the second article doesn't explicitly state it, I think it can be concluded that him being mute and the head injury was a result of the 1984 attack. I wonder if they ever found the perp. WishfulDreamer 03-12-2016, 07:57 PM http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hohenshilt_deborah.html This one is really scary. There was obviously a violent struggle and two of her teeth (presumably) were found on the floor by her bed. That's just horrifying. Padfoot 03-13-2016, 05:46 PM This case is truly bizarre. A couple thinks they found their missing son badly beaten almost beyond recognition, but dental records confirm that it's a different boy! http://charleyproject.org/cases/h/harvey_christopher.html Does anyone remember if this case was featured on a true crime show? I remember a show where a young teenager went missing in the mountains or in a rural area. A teenager was later found, almost dead, but it wasn't the one that had gone missing. It seems like the case was never solved, but there was suspicion of a serial killer with a cabin in the area. It's been many years since I've seen the episode, so some of my details might be wrong. I guess it isn't the Christopher Harvey case? That is bizarre, I'll have to try and do some research on it. I guess my main questions are, if that wasn't Christopher, then who was it? Did he recover? What was the motive for his beating? If you have researched this case, I would love to hear anything you found. I can't find much available online. I have access to some databases, but I don't think they have newspapers from the early 80s. I will find out. They did find out who it was. His name was Scott Yoos. Not sure of the motive though. http://www.nytimes.com/1984/11/04/us/a-family-presses-search-for-son-who-is-missing.html Apparently, Scott Yoos was arrested in 2012 and it caused a bit of a scandal. http://janineslittlehollywood.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/scott-yoos-trial-scheduled-for-august.html?m=1 I'm glad he recovered, but I wish we knew some of the details about his beating. Was he mute before the attack? Could he have been attacked by the someone involved in Christopher's disappearance? Padfoot 03-13-2016, 06:07 PM Oh Lord. The infamous John Pash has resurfaced on the Websleuths thread regarding Roger Ellison. Haven't had a chance to read it yet but I can just imagine what's on there. I just hope he doesn't come here and start attacking us. I hadn't heard of Roger Ellison before this post. But John Pash, based on the WS posts, is condescending and self-promoting. The way he talks to people is ridiculous. Why are the other posters, who he is insulting, pandering to his claims? Maybe because they want him to keep posting information? I am an active (5-10 times per week) WS poster. I really want to jump in and point out he is the only person who LE has named as a POI, but I am afraid he will chew me up and spit me out! wiseguy182 03-15-2016, 12:01 AM Why are the other posters, who he is insulting, pandering to his claims? Maybe because they want him to keep posting information?! That actually happens all the time over there. Most of the comments I read over there are "thank you for the post" comments that aren't useful for discussion purposes. I don't know what possesses people to keep doing that. Either they're trying to raise their post count or are trying to feel self important. Either way, it's annoying and it's one of the reasons I don't visit there often. Kind of like Pash himself. Talks a lot but rarely says anything substantial. He actually fits in very well over there, whether he believes it or not. He claims to have been this do-gooder over at Cederledge, basically standing up to all of the bullying and racism and such over there at the time, all the while constantly bashing people for exercising the First Amendment. It's pretty ridiculous. LooksLikeCRicci 03-15-2016, 12:22 AM That actually happens all the time over there. Most of the comments I read over there are "thank you for the post" comments that aren't useful for discussion purposes. I don't know what possesses people to keep doing that. Either they're trying to raise their post count or are trying to feel self important. Either way, it's annoying and it's one of the reasons I don't visit there often. Kind of like Pash himself. Talks a lot but rarely says anything substantial. He actually fits in very well over there, whether he believes it or not. He claims to have been this do-gooder over at Cederledge, basically standing up to all of the bullying and racism and such over there at the time, all the while constantly bashing people for exercising the First Amendment. It's pretty ridiculous. LooksLikeCRicci thanks you for that post. :D wiseguy182 03-15-2016, 12:31 AM LooksLikeCRicci thanks you for that post. :D wiseguy182 thanks you for that post. :) Padfoot 03-15-2016, 09:30 AM That actually happens all the time over there. Most of the comments I read over there are "thank you for the post" comments that aren't useful for discussion purposes. I don't know what possesses people to keep doing that. Either they're trying to raise their post count or are trying to feel self important. Either way, it's annoying and it's one of the reasons I don't visit there often. Kind of like Pash himself. Talks a lot but rarely says anything substantial. He actually fits in very well over there, whether he believes it or not. He claims to have been this do-gooder over at Cederledge, basically standing up to all of the bullying and racism and such over there at the time, all the while constantly bashing people for exercising the First Amendment. It's pretty ridiculous. The thank yous are annoying. But the dozens of "Stay safe little man! Hope LE finds this sweet angel soon!" and the "I'm sitting here just shaking from grief and rage. Cases like this hurt my heart." are what push me over the edge. I mean, we all want the missing person to be found, why make one comment after another expressing that sentiment? Pash is so full of himself, it's almost funny. Apparently someone said he had a pet alligator and he puts them in their place for starting a rumor: Are you ready to apologize to me for…BEING SO WRONG?? He then informs everyone that he has always had large dogs- 2 German Sheperds, 1 Black Lab, and 1 American Domestic (a mutt). As if readers will be fascinated by everything about him. What a nut. So glad I found this thread bc I love reading the Charley Project website--for all the wrong and right reasons. LooksLikeCRicci 03-15-2016, 11:38 AM The ones that get to me (besides the really awful ones) are the ones where the person goes missing and no one reports it for YEARS. I just don't understand how someone can be gone for such a long time and no one notices. Sad commentary on our society, I guess. Padfoot 03-16-2016, 08:28 AM That actually happens all the time over there. Most of the comments I read over there are "thank you for the post" comments that aren't useful for discussion purposes. I don't know what possesses people to keep doing that. Either they're trying to raise their post count or are trying to feel self important. Either way, it's annoying and it's one of the reasons I don't visit there often. Kind of like Pash himself. Talks a lot but rarely says anything substantial. He actually fits in very well over there, whether he believes it or not. He claims to have been this do-gooder over at Cederledge, basically standing up to all of the bullying and racism and such over there at the time, all the while constantly bashing people for exercising the First Amendment. It's pretty ridiculous. The thank yous are annoying. But the dozens of "Stay safe little man! Hope LE finds this sweet angel soon!" and the "I'm sitting here just shaking from grief and rage. Cases like this hurt my heart." are what push me over the edge. I mean, we all want the missing person to be found, why make one comment after another expressing that sentiment? Pash is so full of himself, it's almost funny. Apparently someone said he had a pet alligator and he puts them in their place for starting a rumor: Are you ready to apologize to me for…BEING SO WRONG?? He then informs everyone that he has always had large dogs- 2 German Sheperds, 1 Black Lab, and 1 American Domestic (a mutt). As if readers will be fascinated by everything about him. What a nut. So glad I found this thread bc I love reading the Charley Project website--for all the wrong and right reasons. Padfoot 03-16-2016, 08:33 AM The ones that get to me (besides the really awful ones) are the ones where the person goes missing and no one reports it for YEARS... Snipped. When I read those cases I automatically think, no wonder the person took off or committed suicide or lived a dangerous lifestyle--no one really cared about them at home. Then I feel bad for being so judgy, it's not like I know all the details or what the family attempted. Those are bothersome though. This case is interesting not only because of Jan's disappearance, but who left the baby? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cotta_jan.html soilentgreen 03-16-2016, 01:17 PM This case is interesting not only because of Jan's disappearance, but who left the baby? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cotta_jan.html I've been fascinated by that case for years. Investigators, as of 2014, were apparently looking for a man in regards to her case: http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2014//41_years_later_authorities_still_searching_for_missing_wall_woman.html It's unusual when no one, family and especially friends, has any knowledge about the identity of the father. In most communities in that era, there would have been gossip about an unattached pregnant woman. Laura77 03-16-2016, 06:29 PM I've been fascinated by that case for years. Investigators, as of 2014, were apparently looking for a man in regards to her case: http://www.nj.com/monmouth/index.ssf/2014//41_years_later_authorities_still_searching_for_missing_wall_woman.html It's unusual when no one, family and especially friends, has any knowledge about the identity of the father. In most communities in that era, there would have been gossip about an unattached pregnant woman. I too, have always been intrigued by Jan's case. I tend to think the father of her baby was married, or attached somehow, and that was why she refused to name him. Maybe she went to meet him on the night she vanished, then he did away with her because she/pregnancy were in the way. If this wasn't the case, who's to say the baby that turned up later wasn't Jan's? In the 70's you could only determine parentage by a blood test. Maybe they made a mistake, who knows. wiseguy182 03-23-2016, 06:40 AM This one has shades of Adam Hecht, with other assorted weirdness thrown in. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/brundage_adam.html This Daman Smoot seems like a good suspect, but why would he break into and rummage the house he was living at? The ex girlfriend could have hired someone, or it could be somebody else altogether. The apparent lack of blood, signs of a struggle, etc is also weird. giftedgothic 03-25-2016, 01:50 PM Found this thread via reddit. Thanks for keeping up the postings over the years; this thread took me about a month to read through. Now that I'm caught up, wow this thread is anti-Meaghan. I guess I have more sympathy for her because I've suffered from mental illness as well. Asking her neighbor's help with dishes may seem odd, but imagine your own brain blocking you from doing simple activities of daily living. If she had an outward disability people wouldn't question assisting her at all. That being said, I do wish she would open up the Charley Project to more people. That got me thinking-- we shouldn't wait for Meaghan to change her mind (because it's probably not going to happen, and that's okay! we need to respect what she wants), but rather, start a new hybrid of the Doe Network / Charley project that is more a Wiki style format of missing people. I haven't embarked on something like this before, but I'd be interested to see what other people think between here and reddit. Corkys-Place 03-26-2016, 01:26 AM Does anybody know who runs the Doenetwork page? Gelatinous Goo 03-26-2016, 08:00 AM When there are missing people out there that need to be put on the site and she keeps talking about jamming as many as possible of a certain type of food in her mouth (crackers, for example), it just makes a person want to put their foot through the wall after time. muttergrumble *facepalm* Corkys-Place 03-27-2016, 12:33 AM Missing Mom Found Alive After 42 Years. Was Lula Gillespie-Miller ever featured on the Charley Project or Doe network pages? Google isn't being helpful right now. wiseguy182 03-27-2016, 04:01 PM This is downright sad, creepy and mysterious. Young man traveling from northern Washington to Oregon gets lost in the middle of the night and then vanishes with his truck. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bilet_tor.html Wonder what the $500 was for, and traveling that far for a job sounds kinda weird. Here's an interesting article as a follow-up. Apparently, the truck was later found, vandalized. His mother is a very admirable woman, going to Herculean efforts to find him and being responsible for sending tens of thousands of care packages to troops in Iraq. Btw, I believe the Christmas store she is talking about in the article is actually Bronners, which is in Frankenmuth, MI and not Flint. It is the world's largest Christmas store. (I've been there and it's massive). It's a tourism hot spot and was apparently the inspiration for her Washington state store: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20060224&slug=young24e tamanshud 03-29-2016, 02:29 AM Charley been down for anyone else? :/ wiseguy182 03-29-2016, 02:35 AM Charley been down for anyone else? :/ yes, it seems to go down pretty frequently, unfortunately. I'm not entirely sure what the deal is with that. I know some of her followers pulled money together to fund her a new computer. Laura77 03-29-2016, 08:47 AM yes, it seems to go down pretty frequently, unfortunately. I'm not entirely sure what the deal is with that. I know some of her followers pulled money together to fund her a new computer. Meghan's got quite a few new posts on the Charley FB page, so she's been working, just the site has been down since Sunday. Corkys-Place 03-30-2016, 01:11 AM Waiting for the neighbour to come over and plug the computer back in. wiseguy182 03-30-2016, 01:28 AM Waiting for the neighbour to come over and plug the computer back in. I love the Australian writing of neighbour with the extra u! I actually use it sometimes myself even though it isn't common here in the States. P.S., is it just me or do a lot of the age-progression photos on CP seem really off? Like they wouldn't look anything like that person would look today. Laura77 03-30-2016, 02:02 AM Waiting for the neighbour to come over and plug the computer back in. :D Laura77 03-30-2016, 02:15 AM I love the Australian writing of neighbour with the extra u! I actually use it sometimes myself even though it isn't common here in the States. We use both in Canada. I guess maybe because of the British influence. P.S., is it just me or do a lot of the age-progression photos on CP seem really off? Like they wouldn't look anything like that person would look today. LooksLikeCRicci 03-30-2016, 11:47 AM Hey now! Sounds like her server was down. Nothing on her end. wiseguy182 03-30-2016, 01:23 PM Hey now! Sounds like her server was down. Nothing on her end. I don't think anyone was blaming her Ricci. :wave: Laura77 03-30-2016, 05:02 PM I don't think anyone was blaming her Ricci. :wave: Heck, no, was just kidding around.:) wiseguy182 04-01-2016, 08:39 AM Here's a newer case that just went up. Woman, 2 sons and dog vanish after the husband, who was awaiting trial for fraud, cut off his ankle bracelet. He tried to sue Facebook founder Mark Zuckerburg for billions of dollars by claiming he helped create fb and they had worked together on a previous website. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/ceglia_leeman.html I guess my main questions is, if their vehicles were left behind, who picked them up? WishfulDreamer 04-02-2016, 12:50 AM http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rivera-helton_katelyn.html Sickening. :( Corkys-Place 04-02-2016, 02:42 AM Here's a newer case that just went up. Woman, 2 sons and dog vanish after the husband, who was awaiting trial for fraud, cut off his ankle bracelet. He tried to sue Facebook founder Mark Zuckerburg for billions of dollars by claiming he helped create fb and they had worked together on a previous website. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/ceglia_leeman.html I guess my main questions is, if their vehicles were left behind, who picked them up? I'm guessing this family are very much alive but the crooked husband's forcing them to live a life on the run. wiseguy182 04-02-2016, 07:39 AM http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rivera-helton_katelyn.html Sickening. :( Robert Rivera is one of the biggest pieces of trash I've ever heard about. The child abuse ones get to me the most. There's really nothing worse than somebody who harms a child. I remember reading this on the CP site some time back. wiseguy182 04-02-2016, 06:09 PM EEK! http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/diehl_caleb.html LooksLikeCRicci 04-05-2016, 12:02 PM Here's a newer case that just went up. Woman, 2 sons and dog vanish after the husband, who was awaiting trial for fraud, cut off his ankle bracelet. He tried to sue Facebook founder Mark Zuckerburg for billions of dollars by claiming he helped create fb and they had worked together on a previous website. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/ceglia_leeman.html I guess my main questions is, if their vehicles were left behind, who picked them up? I think they're still alive. The tampering with the ankle monitor is what sealed it for me. I'm betting they're out of the country. As for the cars, they could have potentially walked somewhere and called for a taxi? Although you'd hope that a cab driver would remember an entire family including a dog... wiseguy182 04-14-2016, 04:00 AM I know Cynthia Hernandez has been mentioned somewhere on the board before, but there's a significant update in her case. She was the teenager who disappeared in 1976 after going to see the movie "The Omen" (ironically enough). http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hernandez_cynthia.html A creep named Larry Allred was charged earlier this month for her presumed murder. Not much else is known, he was already in prison for other crimes. unsolved88 04-14-2016, 12:15 PM This is an interesting one. Maria appears to have initially run away and was apparently seen by several people who knew her about six months later. But after that, she has ceased to exist. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/anjiras_maria.html wiseguy182 04-17-2016, 09:54 AM This case isn't on Charley, even though at least one person suggested it to Meghan in 2010, but it is on the Doe Network http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3340dfga.html Apparently, Catherine was wearing in upwards of $80,000 worth of jewelry at the time of her disappearance. I'm not sure I buy either of the two scenarios presented. Their car was a custom Lincoln Continental and no doubt very distinctive looking, so I can't imagine a local robbing them and driving it about town. As for the other theory, it's doubtful quicksand could swallow a whole car. But what did happen to them? I really admire the dedicated diver who went out looking for them every year for decades afterwards. wiseguy182 04-17-2016, 10:09 AM This is an interesting one. Maria appears to have initially run away and was apparently seen by several people who knew her about six months later. But after that, she has ceased to exist. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/anjiras_maria.html I remember reading about that one. How sad her parents died so young, her disappearance must have affected them greatly. Such a shame that a talented young lady like that could get caught up in the wrong crowd, but it seems like she had been itching to run away from home for some time. unsolved88 04-17-2016, 09:22 PM I remember reading about that one. How sad her parents died so young, her disappearance must have affected them greatly. Such a shame that a talented young lady like that could get caught up in the wrong crowd, but it seems like she had been itching to run away from home for some time. I kind of wonder if Maria, as talented as she was, had more of a wild streak than we're being told. Perhaps her parents weren't 100% aware of everything she was involved in (assuming she was involved in anything, that is) or didn't want to accept it. Similar to Amy Billig. Another part of me wonders if there were some type of problems at home that made Maria want to run away. wiseguy182 04-18-2016, 12:08 AM I kind of wonder if Maria, as talented as she was, had more of a wild streak than we're being told. Perhaps her parents weren't 100% aware of everything she was involved in (assuming she was involved in anything, that is) or didn't want to accept it. Similar to Amy Billig. Another part of me wonders if there were some type of problems at home that made Maria want to run away. agreed, I had even thought of Amy Billig. unsolved88 04-18-2016, 08:25 AM agreed, I had even thought of Amy Billig. Another thought occurred to me. February 12, 1976 fell on a Thursday and it says Maria was last seen at home at 2:15pm. I realize every school district is different and some schools can have half days or days off in the middle of the week for various reasons, but 2:15 struck me as slightly early for her to already be home from school. So my question is did she even attend school that day? Was there a half day or day off? Did she simply ditch classes altogether? Someone on Websleuths found an article about this case from a few years ago. That article discusses a 1978 article (which I've been unable to find) where it states that her father was unusually protective of her and reported her missing when she didn't arrive home at 5:15 to go to her lessons, just three hours later. The mother apparently saw Maria leave on her bike with her clothes and cash in tow and said nothing. It also says that the teenager who saw her at the bar and told her to go home is "unidentified". The last apparent reported sighting of Maria was August 27, 1976. A bar owner said he recognized her as a girl who had been in there fighting with another teenager named Donna. I don't know if Donna has ever been conclusively identified or questioned. wiseguy182 04-18-2016, 12:10 PM Another thought occurred to me. February 12, 1976 fell on a Thursday and it says Maria was last seen at home at 2:15pm. I realize every school district is different and some schools can have half days or days off in the middle of the week for various reasons, but 2:15 struck me as slightly early for her to already be home from school. So my question is did she even attend school that day? Was there a half day or day off? Did she simply ditch classes altogether? At one school I went to, school for the day ended at 2:10, so it's not inconceivable to me that she could be home at 2:15 if classes had just ended and she lived nearby. unsolved88 04-18-2016, 04:10 PM At one school I went to, school for the day ended at 2:10, so it's not inconceivable to me that she could be home at 2:15 if classes had just ended and she lived nearby. True. I just think there's some stuff we're not being told here. I have a feeling Maria's behavior may have been more out-of-control than what's written on her. I'd really like to know more details about the bar sightings, particularly the second where she allegedly fought with a girl named Donna. Who was Donna? Who instigated the fight? What was it about? Was anyone hurt? I have a feeling such details are probably lost to time. Corkys-Place 04-21-2016, 01:21 AM This case isn't on Charley, even though at least one person suggested it to Meghan in 2010, but it is on the Doe Network http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3340dfga.html Apparently, Catherine was wearing in upwards of $80,000 worth of jewelry at the time of her disappearance. I'm not sure I buy either of the two scenarios presented. Their car was a custom Lincoln Continental and no doubt very distinctive looking, so I can't imagine a local robbing them and driving it about town. As for the other theory, it's doubtful quicksand could swallow a whole car. But what did happen to them? I really admire the dedicated diver who went out looking for them every year for decades afterwards. It's a shame they couldn't use some of that $80,000 to buy a better camera! Seeing as she was born July 20, 1902 I think it's safe to say she is no longer with us. wiseguy182 04-21-2016, 01:37 AM It's a shame they couldn't use some of that $80,000 to buy a better camera! Seeing as she was born July 20, 1902 I think it's safe to say she is no longer with us. LOL! There are no pictures of the husband at all that I could find. I agree at age 113 she's almost certainly deceased now. LooksLikeCRicci 04-21-2016, 12:02 PM LOL! There are no pictures of the husband at all that I could find. I agree at age 113 she's almost certainly deceased now. If she's not, we could probably find her in the Book of World Records... :) wiseguy182 04-22-2016, 06:58 AM If she's not, we could probably find her in the Book of World Records... :) actually, she wouldn't rank in the top 100 as it stands right now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_verified_oldest_people UMLongtimefan 04-26-2016, 02:14 PM Some cases I've come across that I've found intriguing.. I don't think I have any repeaters but apologies in advance if I do... one last hike http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pinegar_jesse.html child’s play http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/coots_jeremy.html boyfriend from .. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kail_alivia.html Evidence of a crime? I’d say so.. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/skiba_paul.html a mother and daughter go missing almost 5 years apart http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/medina_nancy.html http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/medina_meredith.html Resort night clerk is kidnapped http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/richerson_suzanne.html Lost again http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/collier_terry.html Cancer Free? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/westover_ronald.html Surfing http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lamson_aaron.html Sailing http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lackey_richard.html Hunting http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/childress_jeromy.html wiseguy182 04-27-2016, 04:06 AM ^Re: Jeremy Coots: Who the hell lets a 4 year old with severe hearing difficulties out to play alone? I remember reading about Suzanne Richerson. Very sad. She has a wonderful smile in those pictures. UMLongtimefan 04-27-2016, 08:53 PM ^Re: Jeremy Coots: Who the hell lets a 4 year old with severe hearing difficulties out to play alone? That's what puzzled me...oh and the fact that the Missouri river is within 400 feet of the baby sitters house:eek: The 70s were definitely a different era when it came to supervising young children. wiseguy182 04-28-2016, 06:37 AM :( http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mabry_cynthia.html wiseguy182 04-29-2016, 02:22 PM can't remember if we did this one before, but it's another CHAIN REACTION OF CRAP! http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bell_david.html btw, anyone else think the age might be off there? He looks younger than 18, plus it would be uncommon for someone that age to be super attached to a bicycle. unsolved88 04-30-2016, 09:12 AM can't remember if we did this one before, but it's another CHAIN REACTION OF CRAP! http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bell_david.html btw, anyone else think the age might be off there? He looks younger than 18, plus it would be uncommon for someone that age to be super attached to a bicycle. Yes, the age definitely seems off. I would have guessed he was about 12 or 13, 14 tops. Interestingly, I think Shannon Green, the girl whose disappearance is thought to be linked to David's, looks older than 16. The one case I've always believed the age was off was Lisa Sexton. I just can't look at her and think that she's 14. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sexton_lisa.html wiseguy182 05-01-2016, 10:21 AM What. The. Hell? http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vannortrick_faith.html What the hell even is this? That poor woman. wiseguy182 05-02-2016, 05:09 AM this is quite a mysterious one as not only do we not know what happened to her, but we also don't know where she disappeared from. Massachusetts Woman takes cruise unbeknownst to family members. Departs from Seattle, and the cruise goes to various points in Alaska and the Vancouver province of Canada. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carver_merrian.html I can see either accident, suicide or foul play here. The actions of the employees of the cruise line seem very suspicious. Seems to have been a lot of that lately. LooksLikeCRicci 05-02-2016, 02:47 PM this is quite a mysterious one as not only do we not know what happened to her, but we also don't know where she disappeared from. Massachusetts Woman takes cruise unbeknownst to family members. Departs from Seattle, and the cruise goes to various points in Alaska and the Vancouver province of Canada. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carver_merrian.html I can see either accident, suicide or foul play here. The actions of the employees of the cruise line seem very suspicious. Seems to have been a lot of that lately. This one is fascinating. It *could* be foul play. It *could* be suicide a la Gail Delano. No one knows. I don't know about the Celebrity line, but it's my understanding that there are cameras EVERYWHERE on cruise ships. I find it difficult to believe that they don't have *some* footage of her after she boarded the ship. It kind of rings of Rebecca Coriam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Rebecca_Coriam), who was a cast member that went missing on one of the Disney ships back in 2011. It's my understanding that footage exists of what happened to her, but Disney isn't talking for whatever reason. I agree that the employee actions are odd, but it could have been an honest mistake, even though it was in violation of the company's policy. OT: I've taken that Alaskan cruise before, albeit on a different cruise line. Alaska in summertime is beautiful. wiseguy182 05-03-2016, 12:41 AM I don't know about the Celebrity line, but it's my understanding that there are cameras EVERYWHERE on cruise ships. I find it difficult to believe that they don't have *some* footage of her after she boarded the ship. It kind of rings of Rebecca Coriam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Rebecca_Coriam), who was a cast member that went missing on one of the Disney ships back in 2011. It's my understanding that footage exists of what happened to her, but Disney isn't talking for whatever reason. The only thing I could guess to explain the lack of camera footage is if she disappeared very early into the cruise. I recently recorded a 48 Hours episode that investigated a cruise death and cruise disappearance. The case of actress Ashley Barnett http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1665575/, and the disappearance of George Smith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_George_Smith Regarding Disney, here are some fun facts: Disney, as you may know, owns ABC. Back in the mid 90's, they made practically every show on their roster do an episode featuring Disney theme parks. Roseanne protested, but couldn't get out of it. She quickly got her revenge, however, by doing an episode shortly thereafter where Johnny Galecki is employed by a theme park with ultra-strict rules and gets brainwashed into this bright, cheery, happy-go-lucky guy (which was completely out of his character). One guess as to which theme park they were referring to. There was also a delightful little program called Second Noah that was forced to do a show there despite the fact that the show was based in Busch Gardens in Tampa (a direct competitor of Disney. I have all the episodes of that show and made and introduced a set to the Trading Post a decade ago.) I agree that the employee actions are odd, but it could have been an honest mistake, even though it was in violation of the company's policy. I would have to disagree. He gave most of her possessions to charity, without even allowing the family a chance to access them or ship them to the family. That's highly suspicious. I'm sure investigators also would have liked to seen those items. Alaska in summertime is beautiful. So I've heard. wiseguy182 05-13-2016, 06:02 PM this one is something: Man disappears while driving to a hot spring. Tons of sightings afterwards. He had been acting unusual after attending an empowerment seminar which was run by a cult. Lots of possibilities here, such as suicide, foul play, amnesia and voluntary disappearance. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rowe_james.html wiseguy182 05-16-2016, 01:55 PM I recall this one. Very, very strange. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jackson_mark.html I could see either suicide or foul play here. What horrible timing the cameras malfunctioned when they did. Not sure if this is connected to all the other cases or just an eerie coincidence. Also, this just in, Sinead O'Connor, the controversial Irish-born singer best known for her #1 hit in 1990 entitled "Nothing Compares 2 U" (originally performed by the recently deceased Prince) has been reported missing in the Chicago suburbs and is reportedly suicidal. UMLongtimefan 05-21-2016, 12:58 AM With regard to Mark Jackson I think it was Steven Lorenzo and his accomplice Scott Schwiekert. I think Lorenzo is a serial killer and despite the fact that he was active serial killer in the last decade, no one talks about him because his victims were men, they were gay and all were raped (which until very recently was a taboo subject). Schwiekert's affidavit on the Murderpedia site is chilling it was apparent to me reading it that Galehouse and Wacholz were not his first victims. Lorenzo lived closed to Drake towers and I don't doubt had come across Jackson and the other men mentioned in the Charley link in the Tampa Club scene. wiseguy182 05-22-2016, 10:02 AM Baffling one. 17 year old boy with no history of problems starts acting strangely and mysteriously, including pretending to still be employed at his job despite being fired. Vanishes while walking from friend's house to his house and he left his car behind for some reason. Just about every scenario is possible here, but the parents didn't publicize his case for whatever reason. He was talented in soccer and could have landed a scholarship. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/frear_craig.html wiseguy182 05-29-2016, 06:20 PM 2004 seems to be a hotbed of weird cases, and I still have 4 months of cases to go over (again). Several WTF moments in this one. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/keys_avi.html LooksLikeCRicci 05-31-2016, 12:32 PM 2004 seems to be a hotbed of weird cases, and I still have 4 months of cases to go over (again). Several WTF moments in this one. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/keys_avi.html Meth sucks. I used to live in Fairbanks, AK with my dad during the summers. I never thought of it as an unsafe place. Lots of strange moments in here, but I believe he was killed by his friends and his body was disposed of. He was a witness to a murder. There's no way they were going to let him get away. Just my opinion. wiseguy182 06-01-2016, 12:05 AM Meth sucks. I used to live in Fairbanks, AK with my dad during the summers. I never thought of it as an unsafe place. Lots of strange moments in here, but I believe he was killed by his friends and his body was disposed of. He was a witness to a murder. There's no way they were going to let him get away. Just my opinion. I had never thought of that angle, but it's definitely a possibility. What I'd like to know is what was the motive for the first friend getting killed? I mean, these 4 friends are just riding along and all of a sudden, one of them shoots another? Although considering Keys' sketchy past, I wouldn't be surprised if he fled to avoid getting tied to the crime and just decided to stay away. Corkys-Place 06-02-2016, 04:30 AM What I'd like to know is what was the motive for the first friend getting killed? I mean, these 4 friends are just riding along and all of a sudden, one of them shoots another? Hard Drugs, especially a filthy drug like crystal meth makes people crazy and paranoid over the slightest thing. Mason might've been looking at him the wrong way and Fisher in his drugged out state thought he was going to kill HIM. Or something crazy like that. LooksLikeCRicci 06-02-2016, 12:37 PM Hard Drugs, especially a filthy drug like crystal meth makes people crazy and paranoid over the slightest thing. So true. Back in my public defender days, I had a client who came into my office and kept peeking out the blinds. He was CONVINCED he was being tailed by the Feds. When I asked him why, he told me that he had been "followed" by a FedEx truck all day. Can't make this stuff up. I would have laughed had it not been so sad. wiseguy182 06-04-2016, 05:57 AM A 1981 case that just went up. This has to be the strangest case I've ever heard about. Teenager girl vanishes into thin air with at least a half dozen people watching her. People started searching for her immediately and later searches would be MASSIVE, but nobody sees or hears anything and nothing is found, outside of a camera lens. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arras_stacy.html Corkys-Place 06-04-2016, 08:35 PM A 1981 case that just went up. This has to be the strangest case I've ever heard about. Teenager girl vanishes into thin air with at least a half dozen people watching her. People started searching for her immediately and later searches would be MASSIVE, but nobody sees or hears anything and nothing is found, outside of a camera lens. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arras_stacy.html That case is just plain crazy! How could she disappear into thin air like that? wiseguy182 06-05-2016, 03:23 AM That case is just plain crazy! How could she disappear into thin air like that? I know, right? Dogs didn't even pick up a scent. wiseguy182 06-05-2016, 03:51 AM Here's another one: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/marcher_courtney.html Quite a few possibilities here: did she voluntarily disappear? foul play? suicide? drown? shark attack? did she have an epileptic seizure? WishfulDreamer 06-05-2016, 01:27 PM A 1981 case that just went up. This has to be the strangest case I've ever heard about. Teenager girl vanishes into thin air with at least a half dozen people watching her. People started searching for her immediately and later searches would be MASSIVE, but nobody sees or hears anything and nothing is found, outside of a camera lens. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arras_stacy.html I was just in Yosemite last weekend. As massive as the park is, this is still incredibly bizarre. There are tons of people in Yosemite, especially in the summertime when she disappeared. I find it really hard to believe that no trace of her would be found. I've heard a lot of people bash Paulides' 411 series and claim a lot of cases are obvious bear attacks/exposure. As for this case, Yosemite National Park does have bears, however there have been absolutely no reported deaths/even serious injuries from bear attacks in the park. Bears tend to steer clear of people (Yellowstone would be an entirely different story). Also, I think more of her belongings would have been found. I suppose it's possible that she fell or something and eventually died of exposure, but I still find it perplexing no trace of her was found except for the camera lens. As for foul play, I suppose it's possible she was lured, maybe into a cabin or someone's vehicle. Still, how would that person get away with it with so many people around? Is there any indication to how dark it was at the time this happened? They were prepared to stay indoors for the evening, so I'm guessing it was at least getting close to dusk. wiseguy182 06-05-2016, 11:42 PM Is there any indication to how dark it was at the time this happened? They were prepared to stay indoors for the evening, so I'm guessing it was at least getting close to dusk. I came across a series of articles and photographs in PDF form on the net. It didn't give a time, but I got the same impression as you: that it was early evening. Not too late. wiseguy182 06-12-2016, 09:10 AM a few more 2004 ones: 15 year old world hackeysack champion apparently abruptly departed his house one morning and walked out into snow over a foot deep. He walks miles and loiters outside a cafe for hours, then apparently disappears right near a river, but the area is virtually inaccessible even by law enforcement. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sparks_austin.html What's really sad about that is that under other circumstances, he would have been sleeping or on the vacation and would have avoided this fate. Here's another one: Man decides to make 300 mile round trip to his workplace to pick up his check on his day off. 15 miles before home, his vehicle is found stuck in the snow AND out of gas. Footprints suggest a sudden leg injury, but that's an awful lot of sudden bad luck. Numerous theories and there are apparently several potential suspects. Or he may have just as easily wandered off and died. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hills_richard.html Blairwitch1975 06-20-2016, 11:16 PM Yay, I can post links now. :) Two off the top of my head. I listed this one before without a link. I don't think this poor guy could've survived long without assistance. Brother dies two years later. Very little info on this. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/parry_timothy.html Another case is Chris Thompkins. His thread on Websleuths is closed, but here is his Charley page and an article with a tad more info. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/thompkins_christopher.html http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article28986784.html cordwainer1453 06-21-2016, 12:51 PM Another unidentified victim I am surprised doesn't have any internet hype. He even has a nickname. http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/372umwa.html wiseguy182 06-23-2016, 06:56 AM Lots of possibilities here: Foul play (seen with unknown man shortly before her disappearance), suicide, voluntary disappearance. It also says she liked to "explore back roads and isolated areas." Gotta wonder if something happened to her while she was exploring a desolate, remote area. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/macduckston_nancy.html LooksLikeCRicci 06-23-2016, 12:46 PM Lots of possibilities here: Foul play (seen with unknown man shortly before her disappearance), suicide, voluntary disappearance. It also says she liked to "explore back roads and isolated areas." Gotta wonder if something happened to her while she was exploring a desolate, remote area. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/macduckston_nancy.html That IS a really interesting one! I lean towards voluntary disappearance, although I'm not sure why she would leave gifts locked in the car, etc. I think I'm focusing on the male companion she was last seen with and the arrangements she made with her work to apparently cover her absence. Perhaps something happened to her while she was off on whatever journey she chose to take, but I don't think she was taken against her will... LooksLikeCRicci 06-23-2016, 12:47 PM Another unidentified victim I am surprised doesn't have any internet hype. He even has a nickname. http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/372umwa.html It begs an interesting question. The pins on his jacket cracked me up. I can't imagine he doesn't have people looking for him... wiseguy182 06-24-2016, 04:33 PM That IS a really interesting one! I lean towards voluntary disappearance, although I'm not sure why she would leave gifts locked in the car, etc. I think I'm focusing on the male companion she was last seen with and the arrangements she made with her work to apparently cover her absence. Perhaps something happened to her while she was off on whatever journey she chose to take, but I don't think she was taken against her will... I agree foul play doesn't seem too likely. However, there is so much that is odd about this case. If she was planning on leaving, why would she tell her family where she was going to be that day? She told them she was going to be in Davenport, and in fact, she was confirmed to be there much of the day. And wouldn't she want a quick exit rather than spending all day in a city not too far from where she lived? Baffling. What a perfect case this would be for UM or Disappeared. Also, "The New Davenport Cash Store and Restaurant." What an odd combination of businesses. wiseguy182 06-27-2016, 11:48 AM this one infuriates me. Young man in process of a divorce apparently murdered in a horrific manner (beaten to death with a baseball bat) by his wife. At the time she was charged nearly 10 years later, she was already in prison for a ton of other crimes. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reams_heath.html WHAT A HAG! Suffer in prison. LooksLikeCRicci 06-27-2016, 12:16 PM this one infuriates me. Young man in process of a divorce apparently murdered in a horrific manner (beaten to death with a baseball bat) by his wife. At the time she was charged nearly 10 years later, she was already in prison for a ton of other crimes. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reams_heath.html WHAT A HAG! Suffer in prison. I read the indictment. It doesn't give much by way of details. What I DID see, however, is that the State named two women as witnesses who are incarcerated in jail. My guess? She told the two women that she killed her husband with a baseball bat and they came forward. cordwainer1453 06-28-2016, 07:54 PM Too bad there is no reconstruction, http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/322ufny.html Corkys-Place 06-29-2016, 04:41 AM Too bad there is no reconstruction, http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/322ufny.html Slightly off topic, but Cyndi Lauper spent part of her childhood living in that area. :eek: wiseguy182 07-01-2016, 12:21 AM a couple of newsy items just in: This case, which I linked to a little while back, was on last night's episode of American Greed on CNBC. The show is hosted by Stacy Keach (also of Missing: Reward) and is put out by Bill Kurtis' company. I'm sure it will be repeated a bunch for anybody that's interested in seeing it. The episode title is "Jersey Car Stealer Dealer/Facebook Face-off" http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/ceglia_leeman.html 48 Hours on ID had a new episode on this case last night, and it's a doozy. Woman who disappeared on 9/11/01 and not too far from the terrorist attacks. Her husband has gone on trial FOUR times for her presumed murder. I tend to think he's guilty and he would have had plenty of motive and probably the opportunity, but there's no shortage of bizarre circumstances surrounding this one. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/harris_michele.html Blairwitch1975 07-12-2016, 07:57 PM I have no idea how this guy got away with telling the police Bigfoot kidnapped Theresa. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bier_theresa.html Article with a little more information: http://www.weirdfresno.com/2010/05/man-claims-bigfoot-abducted-girl-while.html LooksLikeCRicci 07-12-2016, 10:07 PM I have no idea how this guy got away with telling the police Bigfoot kidnapped Theresa. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bier_theresa.html Article with a little more information: http://www.weirdfresno.com/2010/05/man-claims-bigfoot-abducted-girl-while.html WOW. I thought I had heard it all.... ;) WishfulDreamer 07-16-2016, 02:48 PM http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pedro_pamela.html This one is disturbing. An advanced high school student about to graduate early vanishes after being last seen using a payphone in front of her school in the morning. She had a black belt in karate. Sounds to me like whoever she was speaking to on the phone is the key to the mystery. soilentgreen 07-19-2016, 01:48 PM I have no idea how this guy got away with telling the police Bigfoot kidnapped Theresa. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bier_theresa.html Article with a little more information: http://www.weirdfresno.com/2010/05/man-claims-bigfoot-abducted-girl-while.html I wonder why the charges were never re-filed. His testimony is up there with the "Twinkie defense" as one of the least credible explanations given. This case reminds me of Suzanne Lyall's: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hayes_margaret.html 5353 08-23-2016, 03:20 PM This one has been mentioned before, but it's worth another read. It's been recently updated with details regarding the disappearance of Jay Smith's daughter and husband: http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reinert_karen.html Edit: Just read the newly added casefile of Stephanie Hunsberger (http://charleyproject.org/cases/h/hunsberger_stephanie.html)... it definitely leads me to believe that Jay Smith had a role in Karen's disappearance. WishfulDreamer 08-23-2016, 09:59 PM This one has been mentioned before, but it's worth another read. It's been recently updated with details regarding the disappearance of Jay Smith's daughter and husband: http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reinert_karen.html Edit: Just read the newly added casefile of Stephanie Hunsberger (http://charleyproject.org/cases/h/hunsberger_stephanie.html)... it definitely leads me to believe that Jay Smith had a role in Karen's disappearance. The Reinert case has always haunted me. I can't even think about what those poor children must have endured. The hunch about the stone marking their resting place is intriguing, and quite possibly correct. It makes you want to scour the woods to find the stone. However, with the many, many miles of forests in the northeast and the passage of 37 years, chance of finding the site are slim. I'm sure someone or something has knocked that stone over by now. Jay Smith's possession of sedatives/other drug paraphernalia and Susan being killed by an injection of morphine is no coincidence. The man was guilty as sin. Corkys-Place 08-26-2016, 02:50 AM This one has been mentioned before, but it's worth another read. It's been recently updated with details regarding the disappearance of Jay Smith's daughter and husband: http://charleyproject.org/cases/r/reinert_karen.html Edit: Just read the newly added casefile of Stephanie Hunsberger (http://charleyproject.org/cases/h/hunsberger_stephanie.html)... it definitely leads me to believe that Jay Smith had a role in Karen's disappearance. What a twisted tale that whole thing is. The sick depraved acts people will go to (including killing kids) just to get their grubby hands on a bit of money is disgusting. Seeing as pretty much everyone involved in this has passed away I doubt this will ever be solved. :mad: Drakken 10-10-2016, 12:55 PM Newly resolved case, but this case is as sad as it is infuriating. Parents like that should never see the light of day :mad: http://www.charleyproject.org/resolved.html Erica Lynn Parsons Erica, 13, disappeared from Salisbury, North Carolina on November 19, 2011. Her adoptive parents never reported her missing; her older brother did, twenty months after he last saw her. Witnesses testified that Erica had frequently been the victim of physical abuse in her home and was isolated from other children. She was classified as a special needs child because she had a learning disability and hearing problems, and her parents received a subsidy for her care from the North Carolina Department of Social Services. Erica's father, Sandy Parsons, and mother, Casey Parsons, were subsequently imprisoned for fraud because they had collected over $12,000 in benefits for Erica after she was no longer in their custody. In September 2016, Sandy lead police to Erica's skeletal remains, which were buried on a dirt road in a remote area between the towns of Pageland and Mount Croghan in South Carolina. Authorities have yet to determine the cause of death. Betsybugaboo 12-26-2016, 03:20 PM The Tara Calico (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/calico_tara.html) case has always intrigued me; she's almost certainly dead, but the photograph is an interesting clue. Similarly, the list (as can be found at the end of this (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hawkins_georgeann.html) entry) of Ted Bundy's suspected and known victims -especially the known victims- really gets to me. There's no way they aren't all dead, but they're still listed because their bodies have never been found. Over on the DoeNetwork, there's "Peaches" (http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/151ufny.html). There was a breakthrough recently that proved she was one of the Long Island/Gilgo Beach Serial Killer (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_serial_killer)'s victims, but they still don't know who she is. I've been following the case and the serial killer since I heard about them last year, but there hasn't been much progress due to difficulties and interference from Shannan Gilbert's family. (I don't think Gilbert was killed by the LISK, but her family refuses to believe it.) Corkys-Place 12-28-2016, 01:48 AM I think it's highly likely the true number of victims of Ted Bundy will never be known. Betsybugaboo 12-28-2016, 02:33 PM Also, Anthonette Cayedito (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cayedito_anthonette.html). This one is interesting because of the sightings after she was abducted and that she was spotted in Carson City, which is about ten minutes drive from where I live. LooksLikeCRicci 12-28-2016, 06:56 PM Also, Anthonette Cayedito (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cayedito_anthonette.html). This one is interesting because of the sightings after she was abducted and that she was spotted in Carson City, which is about ten minutes drive from where I live. Hi! :wave: There's a massive thread on Anthonette Cayedito on the main UM page, if you're interested in reading it. Lots of theories as to what happened and possibly why... Welcome, though! We're happy to have you here! cuba_libre 01-04-2017, 10:18 PM I have no idea how this guy got away with telling the police Bigfoot kidnapped Theresa. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bier_theresa.html Article with a little more information: http://www.weirdfresno.com/2010/05/man-claims-bigfoot-abducted-girl-while.html A bigfoot? I'd laugh at that if a young woman's life wasn't at stake..... unsolved88 05-30-2017, 05:49 PM Not from Charley, but REALLY creepy nonetheless. I just wish there was more info. Cases in which more than one person vanish at the same time are always weird. http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3719dffl.html http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3731dffl.html LooksLikeCRicci 05-30-2017, 06:14 PM Not from Charley, but REALLY creepy nonetheless. I just wish there was more info. Cases in which more than one person vanish at the same time are always weird. http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3719dffl.html http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3731dffl.html I may be a few years early on this, but Christopher Wilder? Man, 4'6", huh? Those gals were teeny-tiny. Can't imagine they would be able to put up too much of a fight. Sad. Anamnesis 06-13-2017, 08:37 AM Jason Jolkowski is my pet case. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jolkowski_jason.html Jason was called in to cover a shift at a restaurant. His car was in for repairs so he arranged for a co-worker to pick him up from a nearby school (Jason wasn't confident giving directions to his house). After awhile, Jason's boss called the house to find out where Jason was. Jason had never arrived at the school to meet his ride and there was no surveillance footage of him either. Jason was last seen by his younger brother and a neighbour bringing in the garbage. As far as I know, there were no sightings, confirmed or otherwise, of Jason after that. Somewhere between the short walk to the school he vanished. What gets me about this case is that Jason did not have the usual risk-factors of a missing person. He was a 19 year-old, 6'2" young man who disappeared in broad daylight. He had no problems with crime or antisocial behaviour. He was just your average teenager. People have posited all kinds of theories down the years: that he was victim of a car accident and his body was dumped, or that he planned his disappearance and committed suicide, but none of these theories seem to hold much water. At first, I suspected someone at the workplace. Primarily because they were the only ones who knew of the change to Jason's schedule. It was also the perfect opportunity to target him while his car was out of action. There was also the eerie coincidence that Jason was due to start a new job the week after he vanished. For what it's worth the police investigation cleared his co-workers. Personally, I think that he was targeted by a sexual predator. An older male who lived in the area and caught Jason as he made his way to the school. Perhaps he lured Jason into his house under false pretenses and attacked him. Jason was said to be quite a friendly, helpful kinda guy, and I suspect that whoever killed him took advantage of that unsuspecting nature. Another odd coincidence is that reportedly another 19 year-old by the name of Samuel Sherman vanished from the same neighbourhood the following month. He left for a job interview one morning and never returned. Unfortunately there is a paucity of info about Samuel Sherman. There isn't even so much as a photo ID. Some theorize that he may have just been a young drifter passing through the area, but without substantiation the similarities of the two cases cannot be ignored. It's been sixteen years since Jason disappeared and in that time there hasn't been a single lead or tip. It's as if he simply vanished into thin air on that fateful morning. LooksLikeCRicci 06-14-2017, 12:17 PM Jason Jolkowski is my pet case. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jolkowski_jason.html Jason was called in to cover a shift at a restaurant. His car was in for repairs so he arranged for a co-worker to pick him up from a nearby school (Jason wasn't confident giving directions to his house). After awhile, Jason's boss called the house to find out where Jason was. Jason had never arrived at the school to meet his ride and there was no surveillance footage of him either. Jason was last seen by his younger brother and a neighbour bringing in the garbage. As far as I know, there were no sightings, confirmed or otherwise, of Jason after that. Somewhere between the short walk to the school he vanished. What gets me about this case is that Jason did not have the usual risk-factors of a missing person. He was a 19 year-old, 6'2" young man who disappeared in broad daylight. He had no problems with crime or antisocial behaviour. He was just your average teenager. People have posited all kinds of theories down the years: that he was victim of a car accident and his body was dumped, or that he planned his disappearance and committed suicide, but none of these theories seem to hold much water. At first, I suspected someone at the workplace. Primarily because they were the only ones who knew of the change to Jason's schedule. It was also the perfect opportunity to target him while his car was out of action. There was also the eerie coincidence that Jason was due to start a new job the week after he vanished. For what it's worth the police investigation cleared his co-workers. Personally, I think that he was targeted by a sexual predator. An older male who lived in the area and caught Jason as he made his way to the school. Perhaps he lured Jason into his house under false pretenses and attacked him. Jason was said to be quite a friendly, helpful kinda guy, and I suspect that whoever killed him took advantage of that unsuspecting nature. Another odd coincidence is that reportedly another 19 year-old by the name of Samuel Sherman vanished from the same neighbourhood the following month. He left for a job interview one morning and never returned. Unfortunately there is a paucity of info about Samuel Sherman. There isn't even so much as a photo ID. Some theorize that he may have just been a young drifter passing through the area, but without substantiation the similarities of the two cases cannot be ignored. It's been sixteen years since Jason disappeared and in that time there hasn't been a single lead or tip. It's as if he simply vanished into thin air on that fateful morning. I'm somewhat familiar with Jason's case. It's heartbreaking. Arnold_OldSchool 06-18-2017, 05:04 AM Coming up on the one year mark of Shannah Boiteau going missing in a manner I can't believe was quickly resolved. http://culturecrossfire.com/etc/robert-beckowitz-murder/ Shannah Boiteau and her boyfriend were traveling from Wisconsin to California on June 22nd of this year when the couple were passed by a cop car near St. Cloud, Minnesota. This seemed to spook Boiteau and she suddenly jumped out of the car and raced into the brush and woods that lined the highway. It is thought that she was concerned that she was going to get in trouble for violating her parole as she had been recently drinking. Shannah has not been seen since. An independent witness saw Boiteau run into the woods, so her boyfriend is not considered a suspect in her disappearance. She was not wearing shoes at the time she ran into the trees and her purse was left behind in the car. http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/missing-in-america/family-holding-hope-missing-wisconsin-mother-shannah-boiteau-safe-n625606 Other police reports have her being arrested a few years earlier for a huffing related car accident, so there's probably much more to this story. 5353 07-08-2017, 02:59 AM This one has probably been posted, but it's an interesting read: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hartley_evelyn.html There is a remarkable amount of evidence in the case - separate pools of blood, shoes, a jacket, pants, underwear, a bra - whereas so many other missing persons cases have zero evidence that could be linked to a perpetrator. It would be very interesting if the advances in forensic science that we have nowadays could have been used in this particular case way back when. I wonder how much of that evidence still exists and if any of it could be retested for any DNA profiles. I'm not really buying the whole Ed Gein thing personally. The shoe impressions found matched a sneaker, and Ed Gein didn't seem like the type to wear sneakers. WishfulDreamer 07-08-2017, 12:55 PM This one has probably been posted, but it's an interesting read: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hartley_evelyn.html There is a remarkable amount of evidence in the case - separate pools of blood, shoes, a jacket, pants, underwear, a bra - whereas so many other missing persons cases have zero evidence that could be linked to a perpetrator. It would be very interesting if the advances in forensic science that we have nowadays could have been used in this particular case way back when. I wonder how much of that evidence still exists and if any of it could be retested for any DNA profiles. I'm not really buying the whole Ed Gein thing personally. The shoe impressions found matched a sneaker, and Ed Gein didn't seem like the type to wear sneakers. I posted this one on the first page, but it's definitely a worthy one to bring up again. I also don't buy Gein as the killer. It doesn't fit his MO at all. I think we're looking at a sexual predator(s) who was either after Evelyn or the usual baby-sitter. BlueGalexy 07-12-2017, 09:11 PM This thread and the CP site are dangerous for me. I start out looking for something specific, but within minutes end up in a time-warping vortex where I get distracted by all sorts of interesting things. Is it just me, or does this kind of thing happen to anyone else? Speaking of interesting CP cases, I just found out about the Iverson case from this thread. I mean WTF is that?? I got about halfway through the summary and my head was spinning so bad, I didn't know if I was coming or going! I think I might need to take another Imitrex now, thank you very much... http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/i/iverson_john.html Corkys-Place 09-29-2017, 02:15 AM One of the scariest ones I have ever read was about a family (mother, father, one-year-old son) by a duo who would kidnap, torture, and murder victims. The family made the mistake of putting an ad out with their address. Horrifying! And there were others still never found on top of those who were: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dubs_deborah.html ^ Describes it for the whole family. Scum, ABSOLUTE SCUM is the only word to describe Lake and Ng. I stumbled across YouTube footage of this poor woman abducted, sitting in a chair, hands tied whilst Lake told her they were taking her baby away. The CP site reports that authorities believe they were victims of these monsters. Of course they were! the footage is solid evidence this poor woman, her partner and baby were kidnapped and eventually disposed of by them. Such a sickening case. :( Anamnesis 09-29-2017, 08:10 AM Scum, ABSOLUTE SCUM is the only word to describe Lake and Ng. I stumbled across YouTube footage of this poor woman abducted, sitting in a chair, hands tied whilst Lake told her they were taking her baby away. The CP site reports that authorities believe they were victims of these monsters. Of course they were! the footage is solid evidence this poor woman, her partner and baby were kidnapped and eventually disposed of by them. Such a sickening case. :( Different victim, I believe. The poor lady in the footage is Brenda O'Connor. Similar case, though. Her partner Lonnie Bond and their baby were both killed by Lake & Ng, while Brenda was forced to be their sex slave until she outlived her usefulness. Anamnesis 10-15-2017, 11:29 AM Trying to remember a Charley Project case, it was a group of elderly people. If I recall, a husband & wife and one of their siblings. They went for a drive one day and never returned, but the husband wasn't supposed to be driving because of his health conditions. It's one of those classic cases where the likeliest explanation is they had an accident and ended up submerged underwater. If anyone can remember the names, that'd be great. Thanks! WishfulDreamer 10-15-2017, 08:12 PM Trying to remember a Charley Project case, it was a group of elderly people. If I recall, a husband & wife and one of their siblings. They went for a drive one day and never returned, but the husband wasn't supposed to be driving because of his health conditions. It's one of those classic cases where the likeliest explanation is they had an accident and ended up submerged underwater. If anyone can remember the names, that'd be great. Thanks! Could it possibly be this one? Not a husband and wife, but a man, his housekeeper, and the latter's sister. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/keyton_john.html Anamnesis 10-16-2017, 10:10 AM Could it possibly be this one? Not a husband and wife, but a man, his housekeeper, and the latter's sister. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/keyton_john.html Someone already PM'ed me the answer but thank you. That is the case I was thinking of. :) Anamnesis 10-21-2017, 04:17 PM I remember a case back in the 60s/70s about two boys who were camping with their families. They went off to explore the WW2 bunkers and were never seen again. Most likely they got lost, fell into a crevice or something and died. What was more surprising to me is that the families held a memorial service only a few months later. Different time, I guess? Found it! http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/conner_kevin.html http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/peal_mark.html Anamnesis 11-11-2017, 10:15 AM Another case where I can't remember the name, but there was an older guy who went missing. He had been visited by his nurse that morning but that was the last time anyone saw him. If I remember right, sniffer dogs tracked his scent to the end of the road but lost it after that. He was elderly and had health problems, so it's hard to believe he got far on foot. I think it may have been a rural neighbourhood. He may have gone walkabout and collapsed somewhere and his remains haven't been found yet. Although extensive searches often take place, you sometimes forgot how difficult it is to completely comb an area of land. wiseguy182 11-11-2017, 11:36 AM Another case where I can't remember the name, but there was an older guy who went missing. He had been visited by his nurse that morning but that was the last time anyone saw him. If I remember right, sniffer dogs tracked his scent to the end of the road but lost it after that. He was elderly and had health problems, so it's hard to believe he got far on foot. I think it may have been a rural neighbourhood. He may have gone walkabout and collapsed somewhere and his remains haven't been found yet. Although extensive searches often take place, you sometimes forgot how difficult it is to completely comb an area of land. hmm, I think it might be this one: www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fonder_edward.html Anamnesis 11-12-2017, 02:03 PM hmm, I think it might be this one: www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fonder_edward.html Thanks but that's not the one. I think it was only in the last 10 years or so. Corkys-Place 11-18-2017, 12:22 AM I was surprised and saddened to learn on Youtube yesterday that Michael Brayden Fuksa's remains were found (2 years ago!) I'd seen nothing about this online. Suicide apparently, very sad for the family. I remember seeing his story on an Episode of Disappeared. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k87/deskside/Missing%20Adults/Michael_Bradyn_Fuksa_Missing_7-15-0.jpg LooksLikeCRicci 12-05-2017, 05:36 PM I was surprised and saddened to learn on Youtube yesterday that Michael Brayden Fuksa's remains were found (2 years ago!) I'd seen nothing about this online. Suicide apparently, very sad for the family. I remember seeing his story on an Episode of Disappeared. http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k87/deskside/Missing%20Adults/Michael_Bradyn_Fuksa_Missing_7-15-0.jpg Yeah, I remember when they found him. In Wyoming, right? In any case, i remember his story pretty vividly and actually had watched a TV show about him in the week or so before he was found... :( SPD Yellow 12-13-2017, 11:17 PM His episode of Disappeared was the most fascinating because until the discovery of Bradyn’s remains, you could make a good case for any possible outcome of his disappearance: suicide, accidental death (like from the elements), homicide, or living a new life under an assumed name. Though I had a feeling suicide was the most likely outcome. :( Anamnesis 12-25-2017, 08:43 PM Not 'favourite' but it's one that's played on my mind lately http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lowitzer_alexandria.html Alexandria "Ali" Lowitzer was a sixteen year-old from Spring, Texas who disappeared while walking to the local burger bar where she worked to pick up a paycheck. Apparently Ali never made it to the burger bar and there has been no trace of her ever since. There's no evidence that Ali disappeared voluntarily, and there has been no activity on her cellphone from the last ping that afternoon. Convicted murderer Brandon Scott Lavergne was implicated by a private investigator. A witness saw Ali talking to a man in a white truck similar to the one owned by Lavergne, and there was a partial match on the license plate. However, Ali's mother says that Lavergne has been cleared by the authorities. My heart breaks for poor Ali and her family. Ali seemed like a great girl and she was finally making her first steps towards independence before someone stole her future from her. Ali's mother continues to campaign tirelessly for her missing daughter and refuses to give up hope that she'll return. It's close to eight years since Ali vanished, and sadly I suspect that she is no longer with us. I wish her family could find some closure but I'm afraid that they'll never find her. :( WishfulDreamer 01-07-2018, 02:10 PM I've been going through this thread again. While the cases are sad, I'm already pleased that in going through the first ten pages or so, quite a few of the cases have been resolved or at least the missing person has been found, providing some comfort to the families. 5353 01-11-2018, 02:25 AM The site is going through a much needed redesign and all old links are not redirecting. Hopefully it's an easy fix on Meaghan's part. Not sure what to think of the color scheme, but it's an improvement. Here's a couple she posted about on Twitter that have the new page layout: http://charleyproject.org/case/ashley-fuller-reed http://charleyproject.org/case/james-roger-tant LooksLikeCRicci 01-12-2018, 01:17 PM The site is going through a much needed redesign and all old links are not redirecting. Hopefully it's an easy fix on Meaghan's part. Not sure what to think of the color scheme, but it's an improvement. Here's a couple she posted about on Twitter that have the new page layout: http://charleyproject.org/case/ashley-fuller-reed http://charleyproject.org/case/james-roger-tant From what I have read, she's trying to make the site more mobile-friendly. I applaud her efforts. I think the kinks will be worked out shortly. It's not her doing the upgrade, but she's gotten help from a web designer... Corkys-Place 02-12-2018, 10:17 PM I've heard a lot of people bash Paulides' 411 series and claim a lot of cases are obvious bear attacks/exposure. I've only just recently discovered this guy and been watching all of his videos on YouTube. He's even been to Australia to cover 3 or 4 missing person's cases around Sydney. Blue Mountains National Park etc. Some of the cases he's covered are just plain weird beyond belief. Laura77 06-28-2018, 11:58 AM www.canadiangurl77.com A site devoted to the disappearance of Trenny Lynn Gibson EighthStreet 04-24-2020, 04:13 PM Went looking for missing persons cases in Michigan and found this interesting case: http://charleyproject.org/case/catherine-barbara-davidson The police noted that Catherine's parents seemed unusually callous about the situation. Three days into the search, Anna and Robert were seen sitting in a car with other couples, laughing and drinking alcohol. The police were suspicious, but there was no evidence to implicate that Davidsons at that time, and all their children backed up their story. Anna and Robert had another daughter, Joy, after Catherine's disappearance. More than thirty years after the child went missing, Joy went to the police and said her older sister had told her Catherine had never gone to Warren Dunes State Park that day and was, in fact, already dead by then. Joy stated she was told Anna bound and gagged Catherine and placed her in a closet in the family's home in Chicago. The other children heard scratching coming from the closet all night long, then the noises stopped. When Joy's sister looked in the closet she saw her sister lying in a fetal position, dead. The Davidson parents turned to religion after Catherine went missing. They moved to Zebulon, Georgia and then to rural Florida, and in the mid-1980s they founded the House of Prayer for All People, a religious group that operated under a system of collectivism and Old Testament style beliefs, including adhering to a kosher diet and wearing full-length robes and head coverings. At its largest, the group comprised 24 members. They would take new names upon joining. Robert changed his name to Jonah Young and Anna became Anna Young. Anna, who was in charge, was cruel to the other members, particularly after her husband died in 1988. She forced members to turn over all their savings, separated parents from their children, and frequently starved, humiliated, beat and tortured the members, especially children, for their "sins." Each beating took 33 lashes with a whip, the same number Christ had received before the crucifixion. Gottacallphelp 11-29-2020, 07:57 PM Annandale Jane Doe and Asha Degree are two that come to mind. Not a Charley Project case, but I'm also obsessed with Blair Adams. ChandlerMurielB1 07-06-2021, 11:09 AM Someone already PM'ed me the answer but thank you. That is the case I was thinking of. :) We shouldn't PM these things because others may be interested in a case that someone is describing Gelatinous Goo 10-07-2023, 10:11 AM Wow, this is quite the story. A very amped-up David Stone-type of situation. https://charleyproject.org/case/timothy-jordan-boone Heraclius 10-07-2023, 06:17 PM Wow, this is quite the story. A very amped-up David Stone-type of situation. https://charleyproject.org/case/timothy-jordan-boone Very interesting case Gelatinous Goo Thank you very much!! The following case has one of the more frightening photos of the missing person, that I have ever found on the Charley Project website: https://charleyproject.org/case/cherry-lee-weaver |