This case would have been a good one for Disappeared. She told her parents that she was going to the movies with a friend, but neither of her two friends had plans with her that evening. There's not much information about her to be found: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/crawford_michelle.html

I don't think they'd be able to do an hour episode on that as there's next to nothing known about the case.

I don't think they'd be able to do an hour episode on that as there's next to nothing known about the case.

That might be true, but a lack of media attention doesn't mean that her relatives, friends, and any investigators of her case wouldn't have more information to provide, or if there have been developments since then. Some of the cases posted on this thread didn't receive much scrutiny either and fell through the cracks.

Does this case ring a bell?
Quite some time ago, wiseguy linked a missing persons case from the 80s and a video segment from another show about his disappearance. A young man went to work, then was heard talking outside his home but never came in. And his coworkers acted suspiciously. I believe the missing man worked at a supermarket.

The only thing I recall about the show is that the tip hotline was NOT toll-free (had to pay to call), and the opening was rather dramatic with 80s music as the missing young man was depicted by an actor opening his closet and getting dressed. Ugh, I just can't remember names or find the post!

Does this case ring a bell?
Quite some time ago, wiseguy linked a missing persons case from the 80s and a video segment from another show about his disappearance. A young man went to work, then was heard talking outside his home but never came in. And his coworkers acted suspiciously. I believe the missing man worked at a supermarket.

The only thing I recall about the show is that the tip hotline was NOT toll-free (had to pay to call), and the opening was rather dramatic with 80s music as the missing young man was depicted by an actor opening his closet and getting dressed. Ugh, I just can't remember names or find the post!

Michael Adams, from Missing: Reward. It was pitched to UM, but declined for some reason.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/adams_michael.html

Michael Adams, from Missing: Reward. It was pitched to UM, but declined for some reason.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/adams_michael.html
Thank you! I'm definitely going to check that video out again.

Thank you! I'm definitely going to check that video out again.

Your welcome. Let me know what you think as I enjoy discussing the case.

Coincidentally, I just watched the few Missing: Reward segments available online last week; the Adams case appeared to be the most viewed. His father seems like such a kind man. The local news update also found on YT doesn't offer much new insight. I wonder what evidence Mr. Adams has gathered and why they were reluctant to mention more about it. Has anyone here found other sources which go into further detail regarding the latest discoveries?

Coincidentally, I just watched the few Missing: Reward segments available online last week; the Adams case appeared to be the most viewed. His father seems like such a kind man. The local news update also found on YT doesn't offer much new insight. I wonder what evidence Mr. Adams has gathered and why they were reluctant to mention more about it. Has anyone here found other sources which go into further detail regarding the latest discoveries?

YES!!! I loved the part in the segment where Michael's father talks to him when he was having a bad day at work.

I've done a lot of research on the case over the years. A lot of what I've found is rumors and such, but I definitely think it was somehow connected to his supermarket job.

Basically, the manager was a sketchy guy who nitpicked Michael for various small offenses, but apparently willingly allowed other employees to steal. It has also been said the manager didn't treat workers with disabilities very good at all. It's worth noting Michael's employee file was found to be completely empty after his disappearance.

And then there's the Hispanic coworker, I think his name was Chino or something. I find him to be suspicious, and think he knows more than he is saying, but I don't know if he actually killed Michael or not. FWIW, one theory I heard was that Michael's tie got caught in his car window as he was driving away and was accidentally killed. I think that's unlikely.

There was just a lot of sketchy activity going on with the supermarket (at least at the time) and Michael asked for somebody to accompany him to his car and carried a baseball bat for protection.

After watching it again, I also believe it's likely the supermarket job had some sort of connection to the disappearance. First of all, the manager is either completely corrupt or a complete fool. If your employee reports that someone stole a pack of beer from the back room and your reaction is, "Why were you in the back room? You're supposed to be working in the front!", you shouldn't be a manager. I think he slammed Michael to cover up that he (the manager) knew theft was occurring and didn't want attention to be drawn to it. I think it's very possible that Michael's straight-laced ways rubbed the manager wrong. He knew Michael would be likely to condemn and possibly report theft and wrongdoings at the store. So my big question is: WHO was the manager? What's his name? Was he close in age to Michael? Had he attended the same high school?

My other theory is that high school students possibly did away with Michael because they viewed him as a snitch, and he was lured by their friendly behavior. He didn't look like he was under duress when he was outside talking that night. I think he quite possibly got in the car of his own free will, thinking he would only be gone briefly for a quick get together or hang out. And then he was murdered, either to silence him or (as tips imply) unintentionally because they beat on him too hard or something along those lines. If the manager had a connection to people at the high school, that makes me lean toward that theory even more.

I can see why you view the coworker as suspicious, wiseguy. His car certainly looked an awful lot like the one Michael's stepsister saw him leaning against outside while talking to the occupant(s)...

The bottom line is that I think Michael felt threatened and whoever was outside that night caused him to let down his guard. He appeared perfectly at ease talking outside even though two days earlier he'd felt compelled to carry a bat to his car. I think he felt safe in his own front yard and trusted the person in the car. Whoever it was, Chino or someone else, took advantage of that sense of security.

After watching it again, I also believe it's likely the supermarket job had some sort of connection to the disappearance. First of all, the manager is either completely corrupt or a complete fool. If your employee reports that someone stole a pack of beer from the back room and your reaction is, "Why were you in the back room? You're supposed to be working in the front!", you shouldn't be a manager. I think he slammed Michael to cover up that he (the manager) knew theft was occurring and didn't want attention to be drawn to it. I think it's very possible that Michael's straight-laced ways rubbed the manager wrong. He knew Michael would be likely to condemn and possibly report theft and wrongdoings at the store. So my big question is: WHO was the manager? What's his name? Was he close in age to Michael? Had he attended the same high school?

Right, especially if the thief(s) were underage, that could have landed the manager in huge trouble. I'm wondering if the manager knew that Michael was an informant about drug users during his high school days, that could have also been a factor.

My other theory is that high school students possibly did away with Michael because they viewed him as a snitch, and he was lured by their friendly behavior. He didn't look like he was under duress when he was outside talking that night. I think he quite possibly got in the car of his own free will, thinking he would only be gone briefly for a quick get together or hang out. And then he was murdered, either to silence him or (as tips imply) unintentionally because they beat on him too hard or something along those lines. If the manager had a connection to people at the high school, that makes me lean toward that theory even more.

That's certainly possible, considering he didn't change his and his mother's cars around that night like usual, he probably figured he would be right back.

I can see why you view the coworker as suspicious, wiseguy. His car certainly looked an awful lot like the one Michael's stepsister saw him leaning against outside while talking to the occupant(s)...

Yes, I'm thinking he was the one that failed the lie detector. I didn't buy his story of Michael drinking the warm beer (gross), especially since Michael wasn't known to be into drugs or drinking.

I also think that bit about the beer seemed odd. Warm beer is just plain gross and if you're drinking for the sake of getting drunk, that's not going to do it! :lol: Also, considering Michael's history, I have serious doubts that he would not only be drinking, but be risking getting in trouble drinking before driving/outside. Texas law at the time meant he was actually of drinking age, but he could have faced repercussions for violating open container laws and I think a guy like him would have been way more cautious if he was drinking at all. I want to know why police ruled Chino out completely and if they actually cleared the manager of any wrongdoing. I hope they seriously investigated them.

Also, do you know if Michael's father is still living? That update was from several years ago.

It's too bad the show passed on doing this case.

Also, do you know if Michael's father is still living? That update was from several years ago.

AFAIK, Howard Adams is still alive, but his wife passed away in January at age 74. She had 6 other children besides Michael. The obituary I found says that Michael preceded her in death. Sadly, so did one of their other children.

http://www.abilenefuneralhome.com/PastObituary.aspx?did=59a307f5-8223-406e-a803-ceb67fa38029

UM only probably passed on this case because of the number of case requests they received. They just couldn't do all of them unfortunately. I did watch the youtube video. It was someone he knew for sure. His wallet was inside the home so robbery wouldn't have been a motive. Also, for someone who carried a baseball bat with him leaving work, his sister said he seemed normal talking to the person/persons in the vehicle. It was someone he knew for sure whether an old acquaintance or friend/coworker ect. It seems like someone had a grudge or was out for him. I'm not sure if it was related to work or school but someone thought he was a snitch or was a liability to them. It seems personal. They probably got him in the car under a ruse, then carried out the plan.

One of the creepiest ones ever! 18 year old man is stalked by the husband of the woman he was seeing. What is up with the men's underwear?
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arrowood_steven.html

This is an extremely weird one. Did a 17 year old girl kill her parents? If so, where are the bodies?
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/girou_patricia.html

That Arrowood case is odd. Upon reading, I tend to believe that the husband killed him. That's just sad. He was just a kid.

I have no idea about the men's underwear.

I feel this one is worth mentioning because it could potentially be solved in the near-future:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/evers_randi.html

Basically, a three-year old Las Vegas boy named Randi Evers goes missing during his dad's birthday party in 1992. Randi's father and stepmother come off really, REALLY bad here since dad literally had to be dragged out of bed to help look for his son the next morning and the family showed little interest in finding Randi and moved away a few years later.

You'd think this would be an obvious indication that Randi's parents killed him and were covering up, but a recent search through a DNA database came up with a hit on Randi which indicates he is probably ALIVE somewhere! According to this article, this case could potentially be blown wide open very soon:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-metro-detective-thaws-missing-person-cold-cases

Whoa. I recall the Randi Evers one being mentioned on here before, but that's shocking news.

I feel this one is worth mentioning because it could potentially be solved in the near-future:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/evers_randi.html

Basically, a three-year old Las Vegas boy named Randi Evers goes missing during his dad's birthday party in 1992. Randi's father and stepmother come off really, REALLY bad here since dad literally had to be dragged out of bed to help look for his son the next morning and the family showed little interest in finding Randi and moved away a few years later.

You'd think this would be an obvious indication that Randi's parents killed him and were covering up, but a recent search through a DNA database came up with a hit on Randi which indicates he is probably ALIVE somewhere! According to this article, this case could potentially be blown wide open very soon:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-metro-detective-thaws-missing-person-cold-cases

Awesome development. I remember reading the facts and thinking the parents were just total scumbags. Now I feel kinda bad. Kinda.

Your latest article on Cracked is pure gold, Robin! I loved the coverage of the Lauren Giddings murder. HAD NO IDEA they had an interview of the suspect at the moment he realized they found her body. You can't make that stuff up. :)

Awesome development. I remember reading the facts and thinking the parents were just total scumbags. Now I feel kinda bad. Kinda.

Your latest article on Cracked is pure gold, Robin! I loved the coverage of the Lauren Giddings murder. HAD NO IDEA they had an interview of the suspect at the moment he realized they found her body. You can't make that stuff up. :)

Thanks :) ! I always thought the most ridiculous aspect of that story is that the killer was a law school graduate planning to take the bar exam. I can't imagine a budding lawyer who openly talked to reporters at the scene of their crime would have offered very sound advice to his clients!

And while we're on the subject of articles, in yet another freaky coincidence, I actually covered Randi Evers' case in a Listverse article only a few months ago! It would be a nice if this one actually got a happy ending.
http://listverse.com/2015/01/30/10-wild-parties-that-led-to-unsolved-mysteries/

But since Randi's DNA was in a database, I have a nagging feeling he may have been convicted of a crime at some point and could be incarcerated somewhere...

I've followed the endless Michele Harris case. Her husband has been on trial three times for murder but her body has never been found. He is very rich with car dealerships. I really believe he is guilty because of the car at the end of the driveway and the amount of her blood in the garage/house. Of course the four children support him but they were young when she disappeared which is another weird fact..09/11 is the night she disappeared. He had plenty of places to move the body. Car dealerships destroy cars all the time.
Something about the witness who says he saw her van at the end of the driveway with another man at daybreak is bizarre. He just happens to come forward after Cal Harris is found guilty in the first trial.

Anyone else following this case? Another trial is in the works. Last one was deadlocked and the other two the verdict appealed.

I've followed the endless Michele Harris case. Her husband has been on trial three times for murder but her body has never been found. He is very rich with car dealerships. I really believe he is guilty because of the car at the end of the driveway and the amount of her blood in the garage/house. Of course the four children support him but they were young when she disappeared which is another weird fact..09/11 is the night she disappeared. He had plenty of places to move the body. Car dealerships destroy cars all the time.
Something about the witness who says he saw her van at the end of the driveway with another man at daybreak is bizarre. He just happens to come forward after Cal Harris is found guilty in the first trial.

Anyone else following this case? Another trial is in the works. Last one was deadlocked and the other two the verdict appealed.

Wow. I wasn't familiar with that one, but it's definitely an intriguing one. And to think, it happened on the same day as Sneha Philip.

Whoa. I've mentioned this one before, but there's a rather huge update to it, which is great, especially since it's long been a cold case (disappeared in 1983). It's about the Richard Miller, the young man set to be married who disappeared while driving on the same road as his father. His father turned around to find him and noticed him parked by another car and assumed he was helping a stranded motorist, so he turned back. Big mistake as the stranded motorist was really an ex-con (and his fiancée's stepfather) who almost certainly killed his son.

The ex-con is Charles Almond, who has a long history of criminal and suspected criminal activity, including attempting to poison a woman working with authorities in the Richard Miller case by lacing her iced tea with antifreeze, running a prostitution ring, shooting someone's leg off, and possessing counterfeit license plates. Almond was arrested just a few months ago, and is currently at age 85.

Now, what's really puzzling about this was that Almond was the one who reported Miller missing. I have no idea why he would do that, especially since Miller's father could have at least identified his vehicle.


http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/miller_richard.html

And a link to an article from the newspaper Miller was working at the time of his disappearance.

http://www.newsleader.com/story/news/local/2015/05/19/murder-almond-staunton-augusta-county-pete-miller/27546337/

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/remmer_cameron.html

20 pairs of dark eyeglasses, reappears a few days later wearing two different shoes. Weird case.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/remmer_cameron.html

20 pairs of dark eyeglasses, reappears a few days later wearing two different shoes. Weird case.

I remember that one from the Last Seen Alive show, which was more or less the successor to Disappeared. I don't remember much from the show, but IIRC it seemed like foul play and they had a good POI.

Speaking of which, while I don't have official confirmation, it appears Last Seen Alive was cancelled as well, as there have not been new episodes in more than a year. Thus meaning it only lasted a half-dozen episodes. Can't say as I'm terribly upset or surprised. While they did have a few good segments such as the Remmer one, I swear to God half of their stories were "teenage girl running away from home to be a prostitute" or similar such stories. Certainly got old after awhile.

I remember that one from the Last Seen Alive show, which was more or less the successor to Disappeared. I don't remember much from the show, but IIRC it seemed like foul play and they had a good POI.

Speaking of which, while I don't have official confirmation, it appears Last Seen Alive was cancelled as well, as there have not been new episodes in more than a year. Thus meaning it only lasted a half-dozen episodes. Can't say as I'm terribly upset or surprised. While they did have a few good segments such as the Remmer one, I swear to God half of their stories were "teenage girl running away from home to be a prostitute" or similar such stories. Certainly got old after awhile.

I didn't get into Last Seen Alive but I wish I did catch that episode. As far as the Remmer case I was thinking it was some sort of mental breakdown, at least initially, for him to be wearing two different shoes, but of course he could have ultimately been met with foul play. I hope not, but with so many similar cases over the years of missing people never turning up it seems like the majority of them end up that way.

ID has an usual system for new seasons of shows. Never say never when it comes to shows being cancelled on that network. Disappeared is still listed as a returning series on TV Rage, and as boring as they've been, the Disappeared specials like Gone In Georgia still have the name attached to it, so there's hope they'll return to the original format someday.

I didn't get into Last Seen Alive but I wish I did catch that episode. As far as the Remmer case I was thinking it was some sort of mental breakdown, at least initially, for him to be wearing two different shoes, but of course he could have ultimately been met with foul play. I hope not, but with so many similar cases over the years of missing people never turning up it seems like the majority of them end up that way.

ID has an usual system for new seasons of shows. Never say never when it comes to shows being cancelled on that network. Disappeared is still listed as a returning series on TV Rage, and as boring as they've been, the Disappeared specials like Gone In Georgia still have the name attached to it, so there's hope they'll return to the original format someday.

I can trade it to you.

I can trade it to you.

Nah, I'm good. They'll probably air it again sometime, but I don't need to see it any time soon. Thanks anyway!

I was waiting for CP to add this case. I live near Castaic, and I remember seeing missing person posters for him over by the mall during the past year, but they are sadly no longer circulated here.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/laspisa_bryce.html


Whoa did you guys read this blog about his case? Looks really shady and police have officially listed him as "voluntarily missing".

http://rickgbaker.blogspot.com/2015/02/is-bryce-laspisa-case-connected-to.html

I have heard that about Bryce's family...and it shocks me if Bryce took off so his family could defraud all these people....I think if Bryce is ever found the story will come out. Can't the family get in serious trouble if this is found out to be fraud?

I have heard that about Bryce's family...and it shocks me if Bryce took off so his family could defraud all these people....I think if Bryce is ever found the story will come out. Can't the family get in serious trouble if this is found out to be fraud?


Yes but it would be very difficult. You know those people who set up those GoFundMe pages saying they have cancer or have fundraisers for their cancer but turns out they lied? Yes, they are prosecuted. However, proving someone doesn't have cancer is much easier then proving the parents knew where he was and were part of the plan all along. Even if Bryce reappears and admits he voluntarily disappeared he could easily say his parents had no idea. It would be a very hard case either way.

I don't really think he disappeared in order to defraud people, but it might've been just that opportunity along the way. For police to declare him voluntarily missing and end the case on their end, there had to be some pretty damning evidence that pointed them in that direction. Bryce was involved in the drug culture (marijuana is all I came across)

I couldn't get my head around all of that. It reads like a really bad Soap Opera. I'll go back and re-read the case tomorrow when my head's a bit clearer. :eek:

Corky, did you ever reread the Donald Izzett one? If so, what did you think? Certainly an intriguing case.

I'll have to read up on the Bryce Laspisa case, as apparently there's a lot of info I was unaware of. I don't know how much of the info on that blog is true, but damned if it is, and certainly would take the case in a whole new direction. And a McStay connection? Wow.

I guess what makes this case personal for me is that I have a friend who looks EXACTLY like Bryce.

My gut reaction though is that an ambitious, handsome young man wouldn't voluntarily give up 2 years of his life like that for an elaborate hoax. Foul play seems unlikely though since his wallet, laptop and cell phone were all in the car. And accident seems unlikely since apparently there was no blood found in the area. Weird. I need to catch up.

I stumbled upon a case there before where a severely mentally challenged man went missing and I think was in the care of an aunt previously or was trying to get back to her. I think it was in the wintertime too. I remember that he had very crooked teeth, like a warthog.

I just watched a long 20/20 segment about this case

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/melanson_melanie.html

Unfortunately, the 20/20 segment didn't have much info the CP page didn't already have. The 2 boys that are suspects, or "persons of interest" both have lengthy criminal records, so it's possible one or both of them are involved or partially involved. There was drinking at the party and probably drug usage, so I wonder if one or more of them took advantage of Melanie after she passed out, but that's merely speculative.

I stumbled upon a case there before where a severely mentally challenged man went missing and I think was in the care of an aunt previously or was trying to get back to her. I think it was in the wintertime too. I remember that he had very crooked teeth, like a warthog.
Robert Ahtonen? The description on his Charleyproject page seems a little vague about what actually happened. There must be more to the story than that.

Whoa, surprised to see the Tiffany Sessions case profiled on 48 Hours the other night. They even showed a picture of what was obviously her Charley Project page, but didn't specifically mention CP.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sessions_tiffany.html

This is a really weird one with no shortage of possibilities. Inventor who was the world's foremost expert on hobo spiders and worked with the CIA and FBI and appeared on the Discovery Channel disappeared while walking home one night.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vest_darwin.html

This is a really weird one with no shortage of possibilities. Inventor who was the world's foremost expert on hobo spiders and worked with the CIA and FBI and appeared on the Discovery Channel disappeared while walking home one night.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vest_darwin.html

We get lots of hobos in my house. Nasty little critters. That being said, its hard to say what happened. He certainly could have picked a different route home that night had he been intoxicated and could have stumbled into the Snake river. Or he could have been the victim of foul play and possibly thrown into the river. It's a shame authorities didn't do a full search at the time.

Odd that I had never heard about this case-- usually, we hear about the missing Idaho folks over here in Montana, as we're a neighboring state....

We get lots of hobos in my house. Nasty little critters. That being said, its hard to say what happened. He certainly could have picked a different route home that night had he been intoxicated and could have stumbled into the Snake river. Or he could have been the victim of foul play and possibly thrown into the river. It's a shame authorities didn't do a full search at the time.

Odd that I had never heard about this case-- usually, we hear about the missing Idaho folks over here in Montana, as we're a neighboring state....

They sound nasty.

Another interesting aspect of the case was that a police officer asked a man laying down on the bank of the river to move along about 24 hours after Darwin vanished. The police officer was probably unaware of the disappearance and apparently thought it was a drifter. Have to wonder if it was Darwin.

Ricci, have you seen the thread I started on Idaho cold cases? Any of these sound familiar?

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=338453

I just watched a 20/20 episode on this case.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/turney_alissa.html

http://www.azfamily.com/story/28348582/new-clues-in-case-of-missing-phoenix-teenager-part-2

I think it's horrifying what the father did to her and what he might have done to her. I have no doubt he's guilty and it's scary to think about how he could be released from prison in a couple of years.

Yikes.

This one isn't on CP as they hadn't lived in America for a few years, and isn't on Doe Network either for whatever reason, but a missing persons case nonetheless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Eileen_Lonergan

I just watched the 20/20 episode on this, and it's intriguing about all the possibilities that were put out there, such as suicide, murder-suicide, voluntary disappearance, homicide, negligent homicide and shark attack. I couldn't even hazard a guess what has happened to them and the 20/20 episode had a lot more info than the wiki article. This case was a big deal in Australia back in the day.

One interesting footnote from the 20/20 episode: in 1985, another person from Baton Rouge had went missing under similar circumstances, and he later turned up alive and had staged his disappearance. He had even attended the same church as the Lonergans!

Another interesting thing was that shortly after their disappearance, and in the same area, an English speaking couple had turned up on a boat that was otherwise made up of all Italians. There were also allegedly 26 eyewitness sightings of them in 26 spots all over Australia.

It was a pretty wild episode with various people throwing out crazy accusations.

This one isn't on CP as they hadn't lived in America for a few years, and isn't on Doe Network either for whatever reason, but a missing persons case nonetheless.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Eileen_Lonergan

I just watched the 20/20 episode on this, and it's intriguing about all the possibilities that were put out there, such as suicide, murder-suicide, voluntary disappearance, homicide, negligent homicide and shark attack. I couldn't even hazard a guess what has happened to them and the 20/20 episode had a lot more info than the wiki article. This case was a big deal in Australia back in the day.

One interesting footnote from the 20/20 episode: in 1985, another person from Baton Rouge had went missing under similar circumstances, and he later turned up alive and had staged his disappearance. He had even attended the same church as the Lonergans!

Another interesting thing was that shortly after their disappearance, and in the same area, an English speaking couple had turned up on a boat that was otherwise made up of all Italians. There were also allegedly 26 eyewitness sightings of them in 26 spots all over Australia.

It was a pretty wild episode with various people throwing out crazy accusations.

Yes, this case got a huge amount of media coverage in Australia when they went missing at the start of 1998 (Hard to believe it was that long ago!). I haven't seen the movie they made about it though.

Yes, this case got a huge amount of media coverage in Australia when they went missing at the start of 1998 (Hard to believe it was that long ago!). I haven't seen the movie they made about it though.

Open Water? I thought it was a pretty good movie. Not a typical horror film. More psychological horror than anything, but worth a rent.

I am confident the Lonergans were lost at sea. I think the scuba company was correctly held liable, as they failed to keep an accurate headcount and were ultimately responsible for them being left behind.

I have a hard time thinking this was planned, as there was no way for them to know that the tour guides would NOT keep an accurate headcount. In addition, who would have picked them up from the location and why have their accounts gone untouched after they disappeared? They left some of their belongings on the boat-- it's not like they could go down into the water with a whole bunch of cash on them...

I've read quite a bit about this one. I really do think they perished at sea. Nothing else makes sense.

I'm with you CRicci. I've never thought the Lonergan case was anything other than a tragedy at sea. Truth be told, considering the other theories always made me feel like I was hearing hoof beats and thinking zebras. This case has always scared the hell out of me. It's the reason I avoided watching Open Water. Props to you wiseguy for adding this case to the thread! The Lonergan case was the one that got me hooked on 20/20 years ago.

I've always thought it was extreme negligence on the part of the company and that the couple perished out in the water. Diving at the Great Barrier Reef sounds amazing, but this story scares the hell out of me. Imagine resurfacing with no boat, no food, and no one around for miles. Plus sharks in the vicinity. :(

I'm with you CRicci. I've never thought the Lonergan case was anything other than a tragedy at sea. Truth be told, considering the other theories always made me feel like I was hearing hoof beats and thinking zebras. This case has always scared the hell out of me. It's the reason I avoided watching Open Water. Props to you wiseguy for adding this case to the thread! The Lonergan case was the one that got me hooked on 20/20 years ago.

Thanks!

Yes, if I had to lean in any direction, it would be that they perished in the water somehow, but there were definitely enough oddities in the case that made me pause, such as the part about the diaries. Tom had wrote: "My life is complete, I'm ready to die." and Eileen seemed rather ambivalent about whether she lived or died herself.

Yes, while 20/20 does tend to get lost in the sea of like-minded programs out there, it often has a lot of good cases. I tend to prefer one or two an hour, once they start getting into 3 or 4, they tend to leave a lot of details out and it gets very cumbersome.

I stumbled upon a case there before where a severely mentally challenged man went missing and I think was in the care of an aunt previously or was trying to get back to her. I think it was in the wintertime too. I remember that he had very crooked teeth, like a warthog.

God, I remember that one, but for the life of me, I can't find it. My gut says it was Washington state and semi-recently, but I could be off on that. I think he had left their house or apartment for some reason and never resurfaced. This is bugging me now.

I know we've mentioned a lot of Hawaii ones already, but I would be remiss if I let this one go unmentioned.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/noonan_timothy.html

This one is memorable because I can't think of a person the owner of CP hates more than James Pflueger, and rightfully so, he's horrible. Because of his stupidity, negligence, stubbornness and rudeness, 8 innocent people wound up dead, including a pregnant woman and a precious one year old child. And to think that bastard Pflueger is living life in the lap of luxury after a slap on the wrist while 8 people are dead is utterly revolting. T

And is if that wasn't bad enough, instead of ever apologizing to the friends and families of the victims or showing any sympathy for him, Pflueger has blamed them, as well as everyone else (except himself) for the disaster. He also blamed the water.

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/pflueger-sends-inflammatory-letter-to-victim-of-kauai-dam-breach

And another article detailing some of Pflueger's other crimes as well as his sons:

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/prominent-auto-dealer-alan-pflueger-serving-time-for-tax-fraud-while-father-awaits-sentencing-in-ka-loko-dam-breach-case

There isn't a place deep enough in Hell for this guy.

This is a really long, really complex and really sad case. Yet another entrant for the "Worst Parents Alive" category. Everybody failed this girl.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wilson_rilya.html

The Charley Project also has a YouTube channel.

This case i found quite disturbing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC6F4nxyT50

YIKES!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/culwell_haleigh.html

YIKES!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/culwell_haleigh.htmlGlad they seemed to have caught the perpetrator. Shame that he probably won't be charged with that particular crime.

Nicholas Barclay.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barclay_nicholas.html

I just watched the movie The Imposter, and the whole thing left me sick to my stomach. First of all, Frederic Bourdin was obnoxious as hell, as he stated he assumed Nicholas's identity for the sole purpose of benefitting himself, stated that while he was staying with Nicholas's family, that he didn't want Nicholas to return safe and sound because it would ruin his scam, and smiled throughout his entire interview as if what he did was so hilarious. I wanted to smack him by the end of it. He has also assumed the identities of other missing children and the pain and suffering he has caused many families is practically immeasurable. And he doesn't care a whit about any of them. I really wish the movie hadn't focused so much on him.

And then you have the Barclays. Nicholas's mother, sister and uncle were all interviewed (his brother passed away in 1998), and the best way to describe them is trailer trash. Either they were really stupid for believing Bourdin was Nicholas, or they knew all along he wasn't and were pretending to cover up their crime and/or knowledge thereof.

A childhood friend of Nicholas's stated that the relationship between Nicholas and his mother was fine until the brother moved in, then it went south. He described the brother as a bum and a drug addict who had also got his mother addicted to drugs. A police officer who had noticed the brother's call to 911 to state that Nicholas was "breaking into their home" a few months after he disappeared says it is common for those responsible for someone's murder to phone in a fake eyewitness sighting in order to steer the investigation in a different direction (it's notable that not even the mother believes the story about the brother seeing Nicholas months after he vanished. And how does someone "break into" their own house?)

The behavior of the rest of the family is also very suspicious. When the authorities were catching on to Bourdin, they requested the mother to take a DNA or blood test to match, which she vehemently refused. She also bombed hard on the last lie detector, failing every question and causing the needle to practically jump off the page. Shortly after the authorities figured out Bourdin was not Nicholas, one of them told the sister as they were flying back to San Antonio from getting the tests done, not to interact with Bourdin as they knew he was a fugitive and were unsure of what all he was capable of. The sister immediately disobeyed this request upon landing back in San Antonio and continued to act as if Bourdin was Nicholas.

A neighbor of the Barclays also became suspicious after noticing a tarp buried in the Barclay backyard while mowing his lawn. A portion of the backyard was dug up, but nothing was found.

And for the 890 millionth time, we get "authorities initially believed he left on his own accord". ORLY? Then why did the family claim he called home and asked to be driven home? Does that coincide with voluntary disappearance? No doubt the critical early investigation was sloppy because of this. Of course, recent stories in the news remind us that there are an awful lot of incompetent police officers running around out there.

What I would be interested in knowing is if anybody from the neighborhood witnessed Nicholas walking home that day, and if so, how far he got. This may give us an idea as to whether or not he actually returned home.

I'm gonna come right out and say it, I'm a little annoyed with Meghan G. Several days ago, she mentioned on her blog that she has received tons of offers from people to help maintain her site over time, and she has refused them all, opting not to go into specifics, but admits her reasons are "selfish."

Meanwhile, she has found time to fill the blog with tons of rants about her personal life, snarky comments and meaningless and endless lists (wow! all of the missing persons who were wearing a mini skirt at the time. What do I do with this information?!), all the while there are hundreds of updates that need to be done.

Eventually there comes a time when a person just has to say "enough is enough".

I have also suggested some type of forum where anyone can discuss any case at anytime they choose (like here) and communicate with other members easier. It's never happened. Instead, you have to wait for her to blog about a certain case to discuss it, or issue an off-topic post and watch it get lost in the sea.


I apologize. I really don't enjoy feeling that way.

Meghan has some health issues and falls off the radar sometimes. Occasionally it's due to her medication. Other times life gets in the way. Sometimes she does really well for several months, other times not. The Charley Project and it's maintainance are not a paid gig, but I agree with you it would be nice if Meghan would let somebody help her out with it. A forum would be great, too. However, if you want to see a total lack of updates, check out the Doe Network. Nobody has updated the Missing database with new cases in over a year.

Nancy Moyer: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moyer_nancy.html

John Wagner: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wagner_john.html

William Cordes: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cordes_william.html

Wasn't there a not so amicable takeover of the Doe Network a few years ago? That might go some ways in explaining why a website owner would be cautious about accepting offers to help run it; you'd need to carefully screen volunteers and make certain that petty disputes aren't going to affect the site.

Nancy Moyer: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moyer_nancy.html

John Wagner: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wagner_john.html

William Cordes: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cordes_william.html

Wasn't there a not so amicable takeover of the Doe Network a few years ago? That might go some ways in explaining why a website owner would be cautious about accepting offers to help run it; you'd need to carefully screen volunteers and make certain that petty disputes aren't going to affect the site.
Yes, that would have a lot to do with it.

I'm gonna come right out and say it, I'm a little annoyed with Meghan G. Several days ago, she mentioned on her blog that she has received tons of offers from people to help maintain her site over time, and she has refused them all, opting not to go into specifics, but admits her reasons are "selfish."

Meanwhile, she has found time to fill the blog with tons of rants about her personal life, snarky comments and meaningless and endless lists (wow! all of the missing persons who were wearing a mini skirt at the time. What do I do with this information?!), all the while there are hundreds of updates that need to be done.

Eventually there comes a time when a person just has to say "enough is enough".

I have also suggested some type of forum where anyone can discuss any case at anytime they choose (like here) and communicate with other members easier. It's never happened. Instead, you have to wait for her to blog about a certain case to discuss it, or issue an off-topic post and watch it get lost in the sea.


I apologize. I really don't enjoy feeling that way.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Charley Project site and what it stands for. That being said, I always find it disheartening when outside factors pull the focus away from the very people a site such as this is trying to help. I personally was quite surprised to learn that CP is maintained by a single person. It seems to me that the workload involved in keeping up such a large site would be too great for one volunteer.

I'm gonna come right out and say it, I'm a little annoyed with Meghan G. Several days ago, she mentioned on her blog that she has received tons of offers from people to help maintain her site over time, and she has refused them all, opting not to go into specifics, but admits her reasons are "selfish."

Meanwhile, she has found time to fill the blog with tons of rants about her personal life, snarky comments and meaningless and endless lists (wow! all of the missing persons who were wearing a mini skirt at the time. What do I do with this information?!), all the while there are hundreds of updates that need to be done.

Eventually there comes a time when a person just has to say "enough is enough".

I have also suggested some type of forum where anyone can discuss any case at anytime they choose (like here) and communicate with other members easier. It's never happened. Instead, you have to wait for her to blog about a certain case to discuss it, or issue an off-topic post and watch it get lost in the sea.


I apologize. I really don't enjoy feeling that way.

Agreed. As much as people rely on CP and the amount of information on the site...I can not understand why she refuses to share in its upkeep while admitting it's too much for one person. I won't go in to my person thoughts about her personality, but I wouldn't be surprised if she just shut it down one day. There are multiple clues around her blog.

Nancy Moyer: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moyer_nancy.html

John Wagner: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wagner_john.html

William Cordes: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cordes_william.html

Wasn't there a not so amicable takeover of the Doe Network a few years ago? That might go some ways in explaining why a website owner would be cautious about accepting offers to help run it; you'd need to carefully screen volunteers and make certain that petty disputes aren't going to affect the site.

I remember reading about William Cordes. I'm always intrigued by cases like that, where members of a group get separated and when they try to regroup, somebody is missing. Sad case.

The John Wagner one is also sad as it sounds like his brother also died at a young age.

Agreed. As much as people rely on CP and the amount of information on the site...I can not understand why she refuses to share in its upkeep while admitting it's too much for one person. I won't go in to my person thoughts about her personality, but I wouldn't be surprised if she just shut it down one day. There are multiple clues around her blog.

Thank you for mentioning that. I have printed off a large handful of my "favorite" cases in the event that they were "resolved" one day and effectively removed from the site. There are a lot more I want to print off, but I just haven't got around to doing it. Based on what you said, I should get with the program as I don't want these missing people to get lost to time.

Though I wonder if the "wayback machine" would work if something ever happened to the site. I've used it some cases and it's real helpful, but I don't know if they do it with a site as large as Charley.

In fact, I would recommend everyone do that: if you have any cases on CP you want saved, print them off or save the screenshot or whatever, you never know when it might not be there any more for whatever reason.

I remember reading about William Cordes. I'm always intrigued by cases like that, where members of a group get separated and when they try to regroup, somebody is missing. Sad case.

The John Wagner one is also sad as it sounds like his brother also died at a young age.

Similar to Joe Helt's disappearance, it seems like some of the guys who last saw Cordes knew more than they said at the time. I'm fine with making teens pay restitution for petty theft, but imo it's a bad idea to put minor offenders in a group home with more hardened, criminally adept ones.

There's one 3-7-68 Kansas City Times article about Wagner's disappearance. It's difficult to read if you don't have a subscription, but it sounds like two young men were polygraphed following his disappearance.

As much as people rely on CP and the amount of information on the site...I can not understand why she refuses to share in its upkeep while admitting it's too much for one person. I won't go in to my person thoughts about her personality, but I wouldn't be surprised if she just shut it down one day. There are multiple clues around her blog.


I'll admit, I skip the CP blog posts that discuss her personal life. Missing Persons of America is a good site, with regular postings of cases, updates and resolutions. Unsolved in the News was another good site with links to articles about cases but it went the facebook route and I haven't been able to locate it.

I totally respect Meghan. The CP is a huge accomplishment and it's amazing that one person was able to do it, especially considering how difficult her personal life has been. Sometimes I enjoy the lists, but they can be pretty random, like you said wiseguy. I also understand her caution about letting someone else share the load of it, even though that would be ideal. A decade of her hard work could be sabotaged if she put trust in the wrong person.

That being said, lately I've been skipping out on the blog. It tends to be more personal than about the cases lately. Which is fine, just not why I cruise the blog. I think lately it's becoming more clear that it's getting harder for her to handle alone. I see more typos and less updates now than before. I hope she doesn't just shut it down one day, but I can't disagree with you that it's a definite possibility.

This one caught my eye. I don't recall coming across it before, even though I thought I'd seen all of them.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/henson_royce.html

Mother disappears with 18 month old son. Sounds like foul play, but not much info on anything because (here we go again) police barely investigated the case. It's just a miracle nothing happened to her other child as he was home alone the entire night. I can't imagine being 10 years old and waking up to an empty house. :eek:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/aul_julia.html

I think there is a pretty good chance she's alive due to her "transient lifestyle" prior to her disappearance.

Nicholas Barclay.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barclay_nicholas.html

I just watched the movie The Imposter, and the whole thing left me sick to my stomach. First of all, Frederic Bourdin was obnoxious as hell, as he stated he assumed Nicholas's identity for the sole purpose of benefitting himself, stated that while he was staying with Nicholas's family, that he didn't want Nicholas to return safe and sound because it would ruin his scam, and smiled throughout his entire interview as if what he did was so hilarious. I wanted to smack him by the end of it. He has also assumed the identities of other missing children and the pain and suffering he has caused many families is practically immeasurable. And he doesn't care a whit about any of them. I really wish the movie hadn't focused so much on him.

And then you have the Barclays. Nicholas's mother, sister and uncle were all interviewed (his brother passed away in 1998), and the best way to describe them is trailer trash. Either they were really stupid for believing Bourdin was Nicholas, or they knew all along he wasn't and were pretending to cover up their crime and/or knowledge thereof.

A childhood friend of Nicholas's stated that the relationship between Nicholas and his mother was fine until the brother moved in, then it went south. He described the brother as a bum and a drug addict who had also got his mother addicted to drugs. A police officer who had noticed the brother's call to 911 to state that Nicholas was "breaking into their home" a few months after he disappeared says it is common for those responsible for someone's murder to phone in a fake eyewitness sighting in order to steer the investigation in a different direction (it's notable that not even the mother believes the story about the brother seeing Nicholas months after he vanished. And how does someone "break into" their own house?)

The behavior of the rest of the family is also very suspicious. When the authorities were catching on to Bourdin, they requested the mother to take a DNA or blood test to match, which she vehemently refused. She also bombed hard on the last lie detector, failing every question and causing the needle to practically jump off the page. Shortly after the authorities figured out Bourdin was not Nicholas, one of them told the sister as they were flying back to San Antonio from getting the tests done, not to interact with Bourdin as they knew he was a fugitive and were unsure of what all he was capable of. The sister immediately disobeyed this request upon landing back in San Antonio and continued to act as if Bourdin was Nicholas.

A neighbor of the Barclays also became suspicious after noticing a tarp buried in the Barclay backyard while mowing his lawn. A portion of the backyard was dug up, but nothing was found.

And for the 890 millionth time, we get "authorities initially believed he left on his own accord". ORLY? Then why did the family claim he called home and asked to be driven home? Does that coincide with voluntary disappearance? No doubt the critical early investigation was sloppy because of this. Of course, recent stories in the news remind us that there are an awful lot of incompetent police officers running around out there.

What I would be interested in knowing is if anybody from the neighborhood witnessed Nicholas walking home that day, and if so, how far he got. This may give us an idea as to whether or not he actually returned home.

I just watched it and Bourdin made me cringe. The fact that he has basically made a career out of pretending to have info about missing children and then passing it onto the families of said children turns my stomach. And he seems so proud of it!

The family is definitely suspicious. The more I watched it, the more I became convinced that they were responsible for Nicholas' disappearance. I also believe that they knew Bourdin wasn't really Nicholas all along and went along with it to cover up the truth. I believe Bourdin when he says that the sister Carey immediately began showing him pictures of relatives and telling him who they all were repeatedly. She was likely coaching him.

This was a dysfunctional family who seem to be making themselves out to be much more of a victim than they really are.

This one caught my eye. I don't recall coming across it before, even though I thought I'd seen all of them.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/henson_royce.html

Mother disappears with 18 month old son. Sounds like foul play, but not much info on anything because (here we go again) police barely investigated the case. It's just a miracle nothing happened to her other child as he was home alone the entire night. I can't imagine being 10 years old and waking up to an empty house. :eek:
Cases where somebody returns shortly after or leaves shortly before a crime really freak me out. The most frightening one I can think of off the top of my head is this one: http://www.nbc-2.com/story/27652287/lisa-story-and-robin-cornell-cape-coral-1990

Scared the hell out of me after seeing it on AMW years ago.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dubbs_edward.html

I have a feeling that the "live-in lover" they keep alluding to was another man. I wonder if this person knew at the time the Edward was preparing to end the relationship.


This so called partner sounds very suss!

I finally got around to watching the 20/20 episode on Brian Carrick. I mentioned his case before, but in case anyone needs a refresher, here is the link to his page.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carrick_brian.html

After viewing the episode, I definitely think Rob Render committed the actual murder. Not only was his the only blood found in the back (in addition to Carrick's, as the CP page stated), but also a pair of bloody underwear matching Render's size was found in the *ladies* restroom as somebody had taken out a piece of ceiling tile, threw it up there, and replaced the ceiling tile (which is pretty crafty since I'm not sure anyone would ever think to look there, at least not initially) Also, another employee came forward stating that Render had told him he planned to "jump Carrick with a weapon" one week before his murder. And it should be noted that Render's interrogation interview made him look really suspicious as he was very confrontational and jumpy, in stark contrast to Mario and Shane Lamb's interviews, where they were quite calm in comparison. And as if that wasn't enough, Carrick had caught Render stealing alcohol out of the back room and had reported it to management, and Render was aware of this fact, and Render also owed Carrick drug money, so there was more than one possible motive there. Surprisingly, there was no mention of Alan Lippert in the segment.

This is a really sad case for so many reasons. It was just before Christmas. The murder was so senseless as it was over such a miniscule amount of money. If Mario was involved and it was over the money Carrick owed him, Carrick had that much in his bank account. And if Render was involved, he actually owed Carrick money (a mere $30).

I can't rule out Shane Lamb being involved in this somehow though. It was learned he was actually charged with attempted murder at the age of 14 in a case unrelated to Brian's.

I'm really shocked though that whoever murdered him was able to get his body out of there undetected, especially considering it appears to be the work of a teenager(s). He has never been found.

This one isn't on CP for whatever reason, but I just watched a "CNN Special Reports" piece on David Hartley, who disappeared while out jet skiing with his wife on Falcon Lake, near the U.S.-Mexican border. He was shot in the head and fell into the water and almost certainly died, but his remains and his jet ski have never been located. David and his wife Tiffany were set to move back to Colorado very shortly after the incident. They were a young couple.

The case was from 2010 and I guess was pretty high-profile back in the day, although I had never heard of it until now. The story behind it is pretty remarkable. Tiffany stated they were chased by three boats occupied by drug lords, who eventually cornered the couple. Tiffany stated they shot David and tried to shoot her multiple times, and that she could hear several bullets whizzing by her ears, but she high-tailed out of there and was able to make it back to the U.S. unharmed. Authorities questioned her accounts, citing it as unbelievable, and numerous people have also accused her of displaying strange and unemotional behavior following her husband's presumed murder.

A Mexican police officer investigating the case was beheaded shortly after David's presumed murder. Nevertheless, in 2013, Mexican authorities arrested two drug lords in relation to David's murder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy_on_Falcon_Lake

I finally got around to watching the 20/20 episode on Brian Carrick. I mentioned his case before, but in case anyone needs a refresher, here is the link to his page.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carrick_brian.html

Perfect timing to bring up this case. It looks like Mario Casciaro's murder conviction has been overturned:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-conviction-overturned-mario-casciaro-illinois-man-convicted/story?id=33858873

Perfect timing to bring up this case. It looks like Mario Casciaro's murder conviction has been overturned:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/murder-conviction-overturned-mario-casciaro-illinois-man-convicted/story?id=33858873

thanks for that. I'm not surprised, the "evidence" against Mario was weak. The crux of it was testimony from Lamb, who had a lengthy rap sheet that included attempted murder. It was not believable and later proven to be lies. I always felt unease about Mario being put in one of the toughest prisons in the country considering the probability of his innocence, combined with his age and lack of a criminal record. I just hope he is truly innocent.

The evidence against Render keeps piling up. The article states he ran away from home mere days after Carrick's murder.

One of the most graphic theories I've heard is that Carrick's body was put through the meat grinder. :eek:

The evidence against Render keeps piling up. The article states he ran away from home mere days after Carrick's murder.

One of the most graphic theories I've heard is that Carrick's body was put through the meat grinder. :eek:

Yeah, the sad thing is that if a Render was the real perpetrator, his death ensures that Carrick's remains may never be found. Unless, of course, Lamb really did have some involvement in the murder. But if that meat grinder theory is true, there might not be anything left to find.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lauzon_edas.html

This is a simple one, but I mention it because it's so sad in the sense that he and his wife were arguing over the dumbest thing (leaving their door open), and that caused him to bolt and he's never been found. He'd be 106 by now and is almost certainly dead.

Yeah, the sad thing is that if a Render was the real perpetrator, his death ensures that Carrick's remains may never be found. Unless, of course, Lamb really did have some involvement in the murder. But if that meat grinder theory is true, there might not be anything left to find.

Unfortunately, I think there may be some truth to the meat grinder theory. I was wondering how they would have gotten his body out of there undetected. I mean, it's not like they could walk out the front entrance with it. I suppose they could have went out a back entrance and tossed it in the dumpster, but other employees would have presumably threw away trash in there. They would have had to conceal it real well.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lauzon_edas.html

This is a simple one, but I mention it because it's so sad in the sense that he and his wife were arguing over the dumbest thing (leaving their door open), and that caused him to bolt and he's never been found. He'd be 106 by now and is almost certainly dead.
Sadly, I'm willing to bet something silly was the catalyst that caused quite a few missing people to storm off, thinking they would be back shortly after cooling off. I wonder if his car went into a body of water?

Another entry for Worst Parents Alive:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tucker_logan.html

I hope Katherine Rutan is being beaten in prison daily, dies a horrible death and spends eternity in Hell. Stupid bitch.

Another entry for Worst Parents Alive:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tucker_logan.html

I hope Katherine Rutan is being beaten in prison daily, dies a horrible death and spends eternity in Hell. Stupid bitch.

Wow, what a horrible woman!

This one is on Doenetwork and not CP, unfortunately there isn't a photo, but the circumstances are pretty strange:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1527dmla.html

I found a pic on NamUs.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4198/90

This case is eligible to go on Charley Project now.

btw, I agree, weird case.

I just took a look at "Find Robin Putnam's" facebook page. That is the strangest thing I have read in some time. Whoever is running it (I'm guessing his mother?) is certain there was foul play and suggests a racially motivated crime (Robin was white and I haven't uncovered anything that would suggest he was singled out for his race, not to mention it hasn't been proven yet he was murdered.) They're also stating they purposefully exaggerated his mental health issues to police to get them to investigate. The rest of the page is weird also as they keep repeating the same info and posting the same pics over and over (and over and over), and also claiming his remains looked "75-100 years old". Weird.

But....aside from all that, it's a good page to look at because it has tons of Robin's art on there, and he was a really good artist.

And one other note: it was stated Robin donated his efforts to the Telluride, CO art festival....I believe this was the same type of festival that unfortunately lured Eva Schoen's killer to the city.

But yeah, I feel really bad for Robin's mother. He was their only child and she isn't taking the news well at all.

I feel slightly moronic as I've come to the realization that several of the cases I've posted have already been previously mentioned on here. I apologize. I have been through the thread numerous times, but due to its size, it gets difficult to keep track of.

this is probably the saddest case I think I've seen on there. Btw, who the eff lets their 10 year old kid walk to the racetrack?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/savoie_leigh.html

This case always affected me, too. Maybe he met someone at the track that he got to trust and they took him. It was the 70's though, and hanging out someplace for hours was not uncommon in those pre "Do You Know Where Your Children Are? days. And maybe with all those siblings, his folks just turned the other cheek. The case of Louis Mackerley who went missing in 1984 in Pennsylvania is another one that has always affected me. His mother was having surgery, and he was wondering around his neighbourhood when he vanished.

I just took a look at "Find Robin Putnam's" facebook page. That is the strangest thing I have read in some time. Whoever is running it (I'm guessing his mother?) is certain there was foul play and suggests a racially motivated crime (Robin was white and I haven't uncovered anything that would suggest he was singled out for his race, not to mention it hasn't been proven yet he was murdered.) They're also stating they purposefully exaggerated his mental health issues to police to get them to investigate. The rest of the page is weird also as they keep repeating the same info and posting the same pics over and over (and over and over), and also claiming his remains looked "75-100 years old". Weird.

found, but this is the first I’ve checked out the Facebook page and many of those things his mother is saying are just bizarre!

When I first heard that Robin’s remains were found 180 miles west of Salt Lake City, I initially thought he might have been pushed or fallen off the train while they were passing through the Nevada desert and everyone just mistakenly assumed that he got off in Salt Lake City (and that the eyewitness sightings of him in the city were also mistaken). The train did arrive there at 3:00 AM, so it is plausible that most of the passengers could have been sleeping whenever Robin exited the train. But now the FB page is mentioning eyewitness accounts of Robin getting off the train in Salt Lake with some girl even though I don’t recall any mention of this girl in any of the news reports.

Sadly, I do agree that Robin’s mother might just be saying all these strange things because she’s so overwhelmed with grief.

This case always affected me, too. Maybe he met someone at the track that he got to trust and they took him. It was the 70's though, and hanging out someplace for hours was not uncommon in those pre "Do You Know Where Your Children Are? days. And maybe with all those siblings, his folks just turned the other cheek. The case of Louis Mackerley who went missing in 1984 in Pennsylvania is another one that has always affected me. His mother was having surgery, and he was wondering around his neighbourhood when he vanished.

Right, although one place parents never should have let their kids be alone at is the racetrack. Definitely a lot of unsavory characters there.

I remember Louis Mackerley. You are right, that is another really sad case. One thing I'm curious on is this couple Frank and Elizabeth. Who were they? Did his parents know about them? What the hell kind of parents lets their 7 year old child with disabilities roam around town at all hours of the day and night and after he says 2 adults were molesting him? And why the hell did they wait until after 11 friggin p.m. to report him missing, considering he had been missing for like 8 hours at that point?

Social Services allege that the claims about his parents abusing and neglecting him were "without merit", but that's a load of crap since it was obvious they were neglecting him and this wouldn't be the first time they dropped the ball either.

And why the hell did nobody do anything after this poor kid told various people he was being repeatedly molested? Hell, the ones molesting him could have been the ones who abducted him. Argh, what an infuriating case.

Might as well put it up since we're talking about it.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mackerley_louis.html

found, but this is the first I’ve checked out the Facebook page and many of those things his mother is saying are just bizarre!

When I first heard that Robin’s remains were found 180 miles west of Salt Lake City, I initially thought he might have been pushed or fallen off the train while they were passing through the Nevada desert and everyone just mistakenly assumed that he got off in Salt Lake City (and that the eyewitness sightings of him in the city were also mistaken). The train did arrive there at 3:00 AM, so it is plausible that most of the passengers could have been sleeping whenever Robin exited the train. But now the FB page is mentioning eyewitness accounts of Robin getting off the train in Salt Lake with some girl even though I don’t recall any mention of this girl in any of the news reports.

Sadly, I do agree that Robin’s mother might just be saying all these strange things because she’s so overwhelmed with grief.

From what I gather about Robin, he seemed like an intelligent, artistic, talented and classy young man. I was really saddened to hear about his death at such a young age.

This one is so completely bizarre I won't even attempt to summarize it. Went missing in 1974 but disappearance wasn't officially reported until 2010.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lamberton_vicke.html

And an even more bizarre article I found with oddities such as Vicke wanting to change her skin color to appear African-American. I couldn't help but notice there are 6 pictures of her on CP and they all look like they are different women, so she definitely has skills at altering her appearance. Not only could she be anywhere in the world, she might not even look white anymore.

http://www.telegram.com/article/20120716/NEWS/107169901

I also love the first line of that article. "Vicke Lee Lamberton could still be alive. Or she might be dead." Astute analysis. Certainly narrows things down...

I also love the first line of that article. "Vicke Lee Lamberton could still be alive. Or she might be dead." Astute analysis. Certainly narrows things down...

That's right up there with a comment I read from law enforcement a few years ago. They found a missing man's body up in the mountains. I believe it had been cut up and disposed of in garbage bags. One of the investigators went on the record to say "Foul play is suspected."

....really? That really needed to be said? :)

I found a pic on NamUs.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4198/90

This case is eligible to go on Charley Project now.

btw, I agree, weird case.



Thanks for the link. Regardless of what happened, it's strange that he or anyone else would abandon his car so far from Baton Rouge.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fiala_joseph.html Interesting to note that there's a Joseph J. Fiala around the same age who resides in AK.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/masaoay_michael.html

This case would be a good one to profile on a show: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/murphy_ornaith.html The husband apparently couldn't sail the ship.

I've always found the Paul Fronczak case to be incredibly fascinating. My apologies if it's already been mentioned in this thread. I can't begin to imagine what it must have been like for this man to live with his doubts and suspicions regarding his identity. To say nothing of the truth that was awaiting him when he finally began to investigate. It seems as though every question he was able to answer only led to more.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fronczak_paul.html

Below is a link to the article that got me thinking of the Fronczak case again.

http://listverse.com/2015/10/01/10-mysteries-with-major-developments-in-2015/

I just wanted to say everyone is doing a good job of posting cases.

I'm baffled at all the "few details are available" cases. I mean, you might sort of not be surprised when they pop up in the older cases as some things get lost to time due to carelessness or what not, but I was surprised so many newer cases say that.

Right, although one place parents never should have let their kids be alone at is the racetrack. Definitely a lot of unsavory characters there.

I remember Louis Mackerley. You are right, that is another really sad case. One thing I'm curious on is this couple Frank and Elizabeth. Who were they? Did his parents know about them? What the hell kind of parents lets their 7 year old child with disabilities roam around town at all hours of the day and night and after he says 2 adults were molesting him? And why the hell did they wait until after 11 friggin p.m. to report him missing, considering he had been missing for like 8 hours at that point?

Social Services allege that the claims about his parents abusing and neglecting him were "without merit", but that's a load of crap since it was obvious they were neglecting him and this wouldn't be the first time they dropped the ball either.

And why the hell did nobody do anything after this poor kid told various people he was being repeatedly molested? Hell, the ones molesting him could have been the ones who abducted him. Argh, what an infuriating case.

Might as well put it up since we're talking about it.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mackerley_louis.html

I just read the Louis Mackerley case on the Doe Network page and all I have to say is OH….MY….GOD!!

"He liked to stay out late and usually didn't return home until 9:30pm" What the hell is this?? We're not talking about an 18 yr old teen here we're talking about a 7 yr old baby! Also how does a child spend 45 minutes looking around a Hot Dog Shop….Stand or whatever it was. This whole case is just plain weird, sad and everything in between.

I just read the Louis Mackerley case on the Doe Network page and all I have to say is OH….MY….GOD!!

"He liked to stay out late and usually didn't return home until 9:30pm" What the hell is this?? We're not talking about an 18 yr old teen here we're talking about a 7 yr old baby! Also how does a child spend 45 minutes looking around a Hot Dog Shop….Stand or whatever it was. This whole case is just plain weird, sad and everything in between.
It's really a very pathetic case. And let's not forget about this "Frank and Elizabeth" that the police didn't believe in. Obviously, Louis must have met "someone" while on his jaunts around the neighbourhood with no supervision.

I just read the Louis Mackerley case on the Doe Network page and all I have to say is OH….MY….GOD!!

"He liked to stay out late and usually didn't return home until 9:30pm" What the hell is this?? We're not talking about an 18 yr old teen here we're talking about a 7 yr old baby! Also how does a child spend 45 minutes looking around a Hot Dog Shop….Stand or whatever it was. This whole case is just plain weird, sad and everything in between.

Right. I mean, 9:30 p.m. would be dark. I need to do some more research on this case. I guess I'll throw this out there: this happened in Allentown in 1984, right around the time Billy Joel's song "Allentown" was hitting the charts.

Three years earlier than Louis Mackerly, Taj Narbonne went missing in Leominster, Mass.

Three years earlier than Louis Mackerly, Taj Narbonne went missing in Leominster, Mass.

yes, I mentioned that one awhile back. Sadly, I think his crazy stepfather killed him because he was white.

In regards to Louis Mackerley, what really strikes me is that this Allentown were talking about. Not only is it well-known as a "rough town", but it's also the third largest city in all of Pennsylvania. That just reinforces my belief he never should have been allowed at that age to roam around at all hours. And what was the babysitter doing by not watching him? That's what she gets paid for. Ugh, another case where everyone failed the child. Sad.

Can't. Even.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kuljian_gregory.html

yes, I mentioned that one awhile back. Sadly, I think his crazy stepfather killed him because he was white.
More than likely.

Another one from my home state. Loner disappears into the woods. It's interesting to think if he's still alive out there. But if he's dead, his body may be hidden well and hard to find:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hallaxs_christopher.html

Weird one. Mother and her young son disappear in Bismarck, North Dakota after the mother claims she witnessed Satanic ritual abuse. She agreed to go to the hospital, but disappeared before that could happen. Car found next to Missouri River. Her other's son's (Spencer's) father was killed years later and that case too is still unsolved. And if that wasn't enough, I found out Spencer's 24 year old wife died of strep throat (of all things). Poor guy has lost both parents, his wife and little brother, all at young ages.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jacobson_john.html

Can't. Even.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kuljian_gregory.html

Wow. That's awful. Terrible chain of events at play here... :(

Wow. That's awful. Terrible chain of events at play here... :(

Reminds me of a recent local case. A Fire Chief of a Michigan town went into the water to retrieve his hat (his hat!!) which had blown off. They pulled out his body a few days later. Incredibly sad.

Yet another bizarre Smoky Mountain disappearance. What is it with that place?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lueking_derek.html

Yet another bizarre Smoky Mountain disappearance. What is it with that place?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lueking_derek.html
39 years ago today, Trenny Lynn Gibson vanished from the Smokey's.

I don't remember if this was already listed in this thread. A fourteen-year-old girl is left home alone in her family's apartment for the day while her mother goes out of town. The mother arrives home that night and sees her daughter asleep in her bed. It isn't until the next morning however that she discovers that it's her daughter's friend in the bed and that the friend last saw her daughter sleeping on the living room sofa the night before!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rahn_laureen.html

I don't really understand what specifically, other than the phone calls, make Judith Rahn so adamant that Laureen is still alive. What does she think her daughter's friends know? And how eerie is it that one of the people who was drinking with Laureen that day killed himself a few years later?

There are a lot more case files I want to put up over time, but how about we expand this to include the most interesting blog posts by Meghan. There certainly are some doozies:

"Several days of vomiting and general fatigue caused by, I think, funky milk, capped off by a screaming argument with my mom, capped off by an inadvertent attempted grand theft auto on my part, capped off by the neighbors calling the cops…

Oh, I’m sure you DO want to know the details, but I think I’ll just tease you guys with this tantalizing glimpse.

(Mom and I made up, more or less.)"

"My mother heard me vomiting in the bathroom just now and came in to ask what the matter was. I told her I had eaten an entire family-size box of macaroni and cheese in one sitting and believed it was a mistake.

“I’ll say,” she said. “You’re not supposed to eat the box, Meaghan. Just the stuff inside.”

"I’m still thinking about the people who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and realized I’d never come up with a list of all the probable suicides listed on Charley. I thought I’d attempt it now"

Yes, some of those blog posts are just downright weird. Her constant making of random lists is what gets me. They're usually of things that have nothing whatsoever to do with actually solving the case. I think she once made a list of cases where the missing person was wearing a red shirt when they vanished! Unless there's a serial killer specifically targeting people in red shirts, forgive me if I don't find such lists to be groundbreaking or useful.

Yes, some of those blog posts are just downright weird. Her constant making of random lists is what gets me. They're usually of things that have nothing whatsoever to do with actually solving the case. I think she once made a list of cases where the missing person was wearing a red shirt when they vanished! Unless there's a serial killer specifically targeting people in red shirts, forgive me if I don't find such lists to be groundbreaking or useful.
I don't mean to be rude or out of line, but I think the fascination with bizarre lists might have something to do with her having Aspergers. I'm not entirely sure about this, though (I believe she has posted about being on the spectrum, but correct me if I'm wrong).

People have said that they fear she may shut the site down one day. I'm more concerned that she might harm herself. It seems to me like she's usually doing well and taking medication for certain problems she's had. But sometimes when her posts get totally bizarre I worry about her.

That being said, she's done an amazing thing putting this site together and devoting herself to it over the course of a decade. I hope she keeps up the good work and things stay well in her life.

Meghan is very dedicated to the Charley Project. I have a lot of respect for what she does. It is amazing to me how much time/effort she has put into it. I worked on a true crime forum for several years and it's a ton of work, plus there were several others (moderators)besides myself . Yes, Meghan has quirky if not somewhat bizarre ideas for threads, lists, etc. She does have Aspergers, and occasionally needs her meds switched up. Her boyfriend Michael is very attentive with her/her needs. Considering the amount of work she's doing on the site in a day, a few odd lists, posts, etc, is small potatoes! Constant blogging/researching about the missing can be very depressing and can take it's toll on someone's personality as well. My hope is that Meghan keeps up the great work, and if she has to pass the torch to someone else, so be it. I would far rather see that than the site be discontinued.

Another thing that strikes me is that Meghan was like 18-19 years old when she started CP. Not only is it incredible that she had done all that work, but a lot of it was done at such a young age.

One thing that nags me though is that when someone is found, their entire case file gets removed and there's just a quick blurb about the discovery of their remains. I wish all that vital information wasn't lost. Granted, a person could probably just google it to find out the backstory, but still it would be nice to just have all the info in one place.

I don't remember if this was already listed in this thread. A fourteen-year-old girl is left home alone in her family's apartment for the day while her mother goes out of town. The mother arrives home that night and sees her daughter asleep in her bed. It isn't until the next morning however that she discovers that it's her daughter's friend in the bed and that the friend last saw her daughter sleeping on the living room sofa the night before!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rahn_laureen.html

I don't really understand what specifically, other than the phone calls, make Judith Rahn so adamant that Laureen is still alive. What does she think her daughter's friends know? And how eerie is it that one of the people who was drinking with Laureen that day killed himself a few years later?

That's easily one of the most mysterious ones on there. It has been talked about on the boards some, including in this thread.

This one has shades of Patricia Meehan and weirdness attached to it.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/donahoe_lynnette.html

Wow, this is one of the most convoluted and bizarre write-ups I've ever read on CP:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/i/iverson_john.html

Long story short: guy disappears after an apparent kidnapping attempt. When the accused kidnapper is finally found, he claims that it was an elaborate set-up job to frame him and that the victim disappeared on his own. The strangest part is that he might actually be telling the TRUTH! I can't believe there isn't more information about this case online, aside from this conspiracy blog that says he was murdered by the FBI!
http://9-11themotherofallblackoperations.blogspot.ca/2007/09/was-john-iversons-meeting-with-fbi.html

Wow, this is one of the most convoluted and bizarre write-ups I've ever read on CP:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/i/iverson_john.html

Long story short: guy disappears after an apparent kidnapping attempt. When the accused kidnapper is finally found, he claims that it was an elaborate set-up job to frame him and that the victim disappeared on his own. The strangest part is that he might actually be telling the TRUTH! I can't believe there isn't more information about this case online, aside from this conspiracy blog that says he was murdered by the FBI!
http://9-11themotherofallblackoperations.blogspot.ca/2007/09/was-john-iversons-meeting-with-fbi.html

That's some crazy stuff, right there. I can already tell someone is doing research for his next article... :)

Wow, this is one of the most convoluted and bizarre write-ups I've ever read on CP:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/i/iverson_john.html

Long story short: guy disappears after an apparent kidnapping attempt. When the accused kidnapper is finally found, he claims that it was an elaborate set-up job to frame him and that the victim disappeared on his own. The strangest part is that he might actually be telling the TRUTH! I can't believe there isn't more information about this case online, aside from this conspiracy blog that says he was murdered by the FBI!
http://9-11themotherofallblackoperations.blogspot.ca/2007/09/was-john-iversons-meeting-with-fbi.html

Good one and weird too. I remember reading that one awhile back. I think I actually believe Weber, as crazy as his story sounds. I say that considering all of the shady stuff Iverson was involved in and his temperament. It's a shame that invention of Weber's was apparently stolen, in addition to him being cheated out of money.

what a horrible woman

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rabourn_gerald.html

I found out that In early 2015, Goodwin was sentenced to life without parole.

Well this is disappointing.

Yesterday, I messaged Meghan, informing her I had discovered a missing website called "Missing Veterans" that had quite a few cases not on Charley Project and asked if she had ever seen it before. Considering all they've done for us, I found it pertinent to inform her and hopefully get their cases uploaded to get as much exposure as possible for these people who admirably served in the Armed Forces.

Her response was one sentence: 'Yeah, I've seen it."

I also asked her why she never did case files for Jarrod Johnston (missing since 2007) and Jenny Soo Chin (missing since the early 80's) and that didn't elicit even a response.

It's sad she has a monopoly on this website because she's acting like a dictator.

You must have caught her on a bad day :p

Nope. As noted in some recent posts on this thread, many people over the years have suggested that case files be added and existing ones be updated or corrected. She routinely ignores them, as well as dismissing many offers to help, citing her own selfishness as the reason.

But we do get to read blog posts about her missing sock though.

I'm sorry, but that last sentence actually made laugh because it's so spot-on. :lol:

I was just kidding ya :)

I found a website once of a lady who went on a tirade about Megan. The lady and her brother were hidden by their mom from reportedly abusive father. Megan listed them on the site and this lady went bat****. Think I found it googling Megan's name once when trying to figure what the hell is up with her.

I was just kidding ya :)

I found a website once of a lady who went on a tirade about Megan. The lady and her brother were hidden by their mom from reportedly abusive father. Megan listed them on the site and this lady went bat****. Think I found it googling Megan's name once when trying to figure what the hell is up with her.
I read this, too. Just goes to show you it takes all kinds.

I have seen that too. It was on one of those "children underground" type things, the kind of thing Faye Yeager would support. And yes, that woman who abducted her kids is pretty crazy.

So here's a bunch of more stuff on Robin Putnam:

-His mother states that there have been a string of mysterious Amtrak deaths lately. She's stated numerous times that she believes a female "lured" Robin off the train to his death. She still maintains it was a racially motivated crime, but won't go into further details. She also hasn't ruled out many other scenarios. She states he got off in Salt Lake City, Utah, his remains were found in Nevada and his wallet was found in Chicago, and some of his possessions were left on the train. His death does sound suspicious and it should be investigated as a homicide, at least to start with. She says law enforcement isn't acting much or even at all on the case and is very frustrated with it. She is trying to get the case on the Hunt with John Walsh.

-She stated there weren't enough of his remains for them to do an autopsy. She stated his body was dumped in an alkaline wash area of Wells, Nevada and that she was told by a retired pro that people from Salt Lake City (where Robin got off) frequently like to cross state lines and dump bodies there because they decompose rapidly, eliminating signs of foul play.

-She states that Robin was also an accomplished, self-taught musician.

One of the cases that got updated on Charley Project. Really creeped me out!
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/madden_michael.html

One of the cases that got updated on Charley Project. Really creeped me out!
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/madden_michael.html

That would be pretty wild if Cary Stayner was responsible, though my money's on this Tine individual. Also, there appear to be numerous errors with the dates on that write-up.

this is a really weird one

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/woodward_bonnie.html

Woman is apparently kidnapped in broad daylight by the same people who were letting her daughter stay at their home after she ran away. They initially kept the fact they were harboring a runaway from everyone, including the police and the mother. Mother was one of 9 children.

I have no idea what a possible motive here could be. The only thing I can think of was that the daughter fed the couple she was staying with horrible lies about her mother, and they killed her as a result, but even that seems like a stretch. And the guy was pretty stupid for allowing himself to be spotted loitering in broad daylight like that.

Good news in regards to a case I posted a little while back.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/culwell_haleigh.html

Barry Whitton has been sentenced to life in prison for the murder of his first wife. Although he has never faced charges for the murders of his second wife and her daughter, it's reassuring to know he'll never get out of prison.

a hodgepodge of cases from various years:

A creepy and mysterious one: Young pilot plans to take a flight from Toledo, OH to Jackson, MI. What should have been a very short, routine flight was anything but as he was literally all over the map before disappearing into the infamous Lake Michigan Triangle, where all sorts of weird stuff and mysterious disappearances have happened.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hysong_jim.html

4 friends staying at a lodge when they all decide to go out for a middle-of-the-night drive. Car gets stuck in the snow near some ice caves. All 4 eventually abandon the vehicle at various points, three of them got to safety, but one did not. Terrible weather hampered the search for him. Online rumors doubt the survivors versions of events.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/helt_joseph.html

More of those "I won't attempt to summarize it" beyond weird cases

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/forrest_nikki.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/voltaire_christina.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carnes_patrick.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wood_kaidena.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mardeyev_timur.html

This poor girl was a good seed in an otherwise HORRIBLE family

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wood_brittney.html


And some more children's cases, kicking off with a HORRIBLE PARENTS ALERT!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/metalwala_sky.html

this was a pretty famous one back in the day. Perhaps not quite up there with Etan Patz, Johnny Gosch and Jacob Wetterling, but up there. Boy from large family disappears and there are numerous suspects. His father later founded a missing children's organization, but it closed in 96 due to financial constraints, and he later left the country, having divorced his wife sometime previous.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/collins_kevin.html

4 year old boy disappears at bus stop even though he didn't have school that day.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grice_jeremy.html

4 year old boy disappears at bus stop even though he didn't have school that day.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grice_jeremy.html

Jeremy Grice may have been featured on the third and final installment of "Missing: Have You Seen This Person?" in 1986. The name "Grice" appears in a roll call of names in an interview with Meredith Baxter.

http://www.nbcuniversalarchives.com/nbcuni/clip/5112626137_s43.do

a hodgepodge of cases from various years:

A creepy and mysterious one: Young pilot plans to take a flight from Toledo, OH to Jackson, MI. What should have been a very short, routine flight was anything but as he was literally all over the map before disappearing into the infamous Lake Michigan Triangle, where all sorts of weird stuff and mysterious disappearances have happened.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hysong_jim.html

4 friends staying at a lodge when they all decide to go out for a middle-of-the-night drive. Car gets stuck in the snow near some ice caves. All 4 eventually abandon the vehicle at various points, three of them got to safety, but one did not. Terrible weather hampered the search for him. Online rumors doubt the survivors versions of events.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/helt_joseph.html

More of those "I won't attempt to summarize it" beyond weird cases

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/forrest_nikki.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/voltaire_christina.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carnes_patrick.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wood_kaidena.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mardeyev_timur.html

This poor girl was a good seed in an otherwise HORRIBLE family

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wood_brittney.html


And some more children's cases, kicking off with a HORRIBLE PARENTS ALERT!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/metalwala_sky.html

this was a pretty famous one back in the day. Perhaps not quite up there with Etan Patz, Johnny Gosch and Jacob Wetterling, but up there. Boy from large family disappears and there are numerous suspects. His father later founded a missing children's organization, but it closed in 96 due to financial constraints, and he later left the country, having divorced his wife sometime previous.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/collins_kevin.html

4 year old boy disappears at bus stop even though he didn't have school that day.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grice_jeremy.html
You did hear/see quite a bit for Kevin Andrew Collins in the 1980's. He was one of the milk carton kids.

Anthony Bernard Franko was another kid of the same era as Kevin Collins.

Anthony Bernard Franko was another kid of the same era as Kevin Collins.

Right. I remember reading that one and it is very sad. I might as well put that one up too.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/franko_anthony.html

This case is one of some which sticks out to me mainly because of the location of the disappearance, and the fact that Steven Aiello basically testified against two of the five crime families:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/aiello_steven.html

The address which Steven was last seen leaving is in a neighborhood I used to frequent to visit a junior high school friend. His face looks so familiar to me to this very day, and I'm trying to recollect if I had ever seen him in passing. I was still frequenting the neighborhood not too long before his disappearance so it's possible. After reading his Charley Project story for the very first time awhile back, it seemed to be a no-brainer as to what could've happened to him according to him having been an alibi witness, and the basis of his disappearance.

To testify against the mob basically equates to signing your own death certificate, and the fact that Steven hadn't been shuffled into the Witness Protection Program after his testimony is puzzling to me. Perhaps he declined or was never provided the option. However, he's been missing long enough to be declared legally dead.

this is a weird case complete with several mysterious, unidentified people, lying from different parties and numerous suspects.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bentley_benedetta.html

And another baffling one. Man with mental issues disappears and the vehicle he was driving turns up near the mountains. A box containing 25 credit cards (!!), lots of personal papers, cash and other belongings turns up nearly 10k feet up the mountain, but it's doubtful he could have made it that high due to his asthma, broken arm and inexperience. Numerous items he would have needed were left behind in the vehicle.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/herrera_heriberto.html

I have no guesses on this one as nothing makes sense.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/herrera_heriberto.html

I have no guesses on this one as nothing makes sense.

http://www.listsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ancient-aliens-meme-24.jpg

LOL Ricci!!

Another weird thing was that he was wearing all that expensive gold jewelry. I can't fathom why he would take that, but leave the cash and credit cards behind. Foul play seems unlikely since somebody would have taken the cash and credit cards.

You want another one?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wiley_mel.html

I'm not sure I could even invent in my mind a disappearance more baffling than that.

You want another one?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wiley_mel.html

I'm not sure I could even invent in my mind a disappearance more baffling than that.

It hardly seem worth including photos in that Missing persons listing given how shocking the picture quality is. Oh well, we are talking 30 years ago. Digital Cameras and Smartphones with cameras weren't even a dot on the horizon yet. :eek:

It hardly seem worth including photos in that Missing persons listing given how shocking the picture quality is. Oh well, we are talking 30 years ago. Digital Cameras and Smartphones with cameras weren't even a dot on the horizon yet. :eek:

Oh, I've seen worse ones than that. I saw one yesterday where you literally couldn't tell if it was a man or a woman. I'm surprised it was even put up.

As a sidebar, I've come to the realization that I've put up cases from 48 states, with Delaware and South Dakota being the exceptions. Not that their cases are any less tragic, it's just that there weren't any ones that really stood out. South Dakota has a mere 11 missing people in the database, though that's a good thing.

some weird ones:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/smiley_shantina.html

Okay, what? I'm not sure how they can rule that accidental drowning since Smiley's mothering capabilities are definitely suspect, and how does his body float 16 miles? I'm also confused as to how she drove her van in the water in a remote beach, even if she was lost. Perhaps she had another relapse. Since the van was only partially submerged and likely couldn't have got far from shore, it's tough to imagine them both accidentally drowning.

a somewhat shorter case with several WTF moments, not the least of which was the employee telling the guy crying over his mother's perceived death to get out of there. Geez, that's cold.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/buntain_william.html

some weird ones:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/smiley_shantina.html

Okay, what? I'm not sure how they can rule that accidental drowning since Smiley's mothering capabilities are definitely suspect, and how does his body float 16 miles? I'm also confused as to how she drove her van in the water in a remote beach, even if she was lost. Perhaps she had another relapse. Since the van was only partially submerged and likely couldn't have got far from shore, it's tough to imagine them both accidentally drowning.

I also suspect a relapse, but it does seem crazy to me that they would both drown when not so far offshore. Unless neither knew how to swim? 16 miles is definitely bizarre though.



a somewhat shorter case with several WTF moments, not the least of which was the employee telling the guy crying over his mother's perceived death to get out of there. Geez, that's cold.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/buntain_william.html

I'm going to hope that the employee told him in a more gentle, compassionate way that he would need to leave the premises. Rather than "Too bad, you need to leave" saying something along the lines of "I'm so sorry. But sir, this area is closed and I'm afraid you can't stay."

This is a really troubling case no matter what happened. It sounds to me like he had an emotional breakdown and was definitely not capable of surviving in a remote area in his physical and mental condition. I think he wandered off and died of exposure :(

This is truly chilling. Why would a mother deliberately lie and say that her missing daughter was found dead?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/creech_melinda.html

This is truly chilling. Why would a mother deliberately lie and say that her missing daughter was found dead?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/creech_melinda.html

I remember someone posting that one. I think the mother probably beat her to death and covered it up.

bizarre case involving a lesbian turned heterosexual who later renounced her previous homosexuality, a custody case that went all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court and three people named Miller who are all unrelated to each other.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/miller-jenkins_isabella.html

OH MY GOD!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/johnson_gabriel.html

They should have just let Elizabeth Johnson starve herself to death, that clearly would have been the best outcome for her. HORRIBLE that she's walking the streets while her son is quite possibly dead.

I actually don't think the kid is dead. I think he was adopted via the black market....

I actually don't think the kid is dead. I think he was adopted via the black market....

Could be. But considering she confessed to killing him at least 3 times, apparently gave him overdoses of medicine, and has been known to physically assault people for no reason has me worried he's no longer alive.

Here's another CHAIN REACTION OF CRAP!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/jines_david.html

You've seen me post several Worst Parents Alive Alerts. Well, here's a Worst Offspring Alert!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barrientos_maria.html

Quite a few possibilities on this one:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/howard_kelley.html

Foul play is possible, but in broad daylight in a presumably low crime town, and at a dentist's office? (I don't think there are too many dentists that are murderers.) And why would they not do something with her vehicle? Because leaving it there just casts more suspicion on the people in the office.

The part about Kelley asking for vacation time that the husband didn't know about suggests the possibility of voluntary disappearance, but I don't know how likely that is. And then you throw in the medical diagnosis that causes her memory loss and disorientation at times, leaving the possibility she has amnesia.

And the part about the keys being found in a plastic bag in the weeds by the dentist's office is weird. Why would Kelley do that, then again why would anyone?

Really confused on this one. I read elsewhere she was declared legally dead last year.

You've seen me post several Worst Parents Alive Alerts. Well, here's a Worst Offspring Alert!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barrientos_maria.html
What a POS both of those individuals are. God forbid they were told to get jobs and not be waited on hand and foot. :mad: Killing your own mother/MIL for that? Wow.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/godwin_thomas.html

Sad one as man devotes nearly his entire adult life to working for one company and they fire him over an accident. (he served admirably in the Marines for several years prior to joining company.) Disappears with dog and car and a pretty broad range is given as to when they disappeared (I understand he was a loner, but none of his 6 sisters or other family members noticed he was gone for well over a month?). Sliding glass door to residence left open, he was depressed so suicide is possible. But then there's this (scroll to bottom of page):

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=5595.0

Sound like he was fired because they thought he was too old at age 53. Numerous complaints against Winn-Dixie for age and racial discrimination. Foul play also possible.

I just recorded an episode of MSNBC Investigates on this case

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kupka_kristine.html

I just recorded an episode of MSNBC Investigates on this case

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kupka_kristine.html
Infuriating. I know evidence is needed, but come on, he didn't even know which shopping mall he drove her to? Riiiiiight. That's because it's clear there was no trip to the shopping mall. :(

A baffling one from Washington, D.C.; rich woman has top-of-the-line security and cameras, yet it doesn't record her ever leaving her home.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/butler_pamela.html

BIZARRE story about a young Wisconsin woman who traveled to Oregon and ended up in California, on the doorstep of a stranger's house naked and with briar scratches (?!). Later learned she participated in a tea ceremony, which is illegal in the United States. She was constantly in fear of someone, but not known if there was really someone after her or if it was just paranoia associated with her drug and alcohol intake

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/walters_christine.html

These are no doubt sad cases and I feel bad for them, but I did get a chuckle out of them no less.

Santa Claus disappears...from Sun City, Arizona of all places

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rottmiller_lenord.html

This has to be one of Meg's most hilarious blunders yet. "Guzman-Mendoza has several unspecified medical conditions, including diabetes."

http://charleyproject.org/cases/g/guzman-mendoza_adela.html

A somewhat shorter case, but no less baffling. Rich older woman disappears from gated community sometime during the night. Later turns up at 10:30 a.m. in her son's former house after having apparently walked for several hours. Dog she was walking later surfaces but she does not. Security cameras at the only entrance gate should have filmed her leaving, but didn't.

In a bitter footnote, her family planned to buy her a tracking device as she had wandered off before (no doubt due to her Alzheimer's), but she vanished before they could get one.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lopes_sheila.html

Quite a few possibilities on this one:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/howard_kelley.html

Foul play is possible, but in broad daylight in a presumably low crime town, and at a dentist's office? (I don't think there are too many dentists that are murderers.)

Might I direct you to Steve Martin in Little Shop of Horrors.

Boom. Lawyered. ;)

A menagerie of cases from various years:

I somehow missed this one originally, which is the current "Missing Person Of The Week." Suicide, murder, accident or voluntary disappearance?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/patient_william.html

Suicide, foul play or voluntary disappearance? How sad both of his parents died.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dutton_daniel.html

Really sad one. While there's no mystery as to what happened to him, how sad that he first attempted suicide at age 12 (?!). Unfortunate as the Coast Guard seems to have just missed him.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/whitmer_matthew.html

HORRIFYING!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/acree_yasmine.html

this is a whopper

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/osteen_judith.html

Group of 6 plans to travel by boat from Miami to the Bahamas. Boat is later found near Cuba and 160 miles off course. The two survivors appear to have killed the other 4, but who makes their escape bobbing along in a life raft for 5 days? And what was the purpose of them paying 4k just for a short trip? The part about the blow gun with darts is weird.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/branam_kelly.html

Group of 6 plans to travel by boat from Miami to the Bahamas. Boat is later found near Cuba and 160 miles off course. The two survivors appear to have killed the other 4, but who makes their escape bobbing along in a life raft for 5 days? And what was the purpose of them paying 4k just for a short trip? The part about the blow gun with darts is weird.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/branam_kelly.html

Why pay 4 grand for a short trip? My guess, the two of them were going to smuggle drugs or guns into Florida. 4 grand would probably be nothing compared to what they could get. The other 4 found out what was going on, or they met with the shady people who were the hookup, and they were killed. That's what it looks like to me, but I could be wrong, for crying out loud I never got the main mysteries right in all 3 seasons of Veronica Mars.

Why pay 4 grand for a short trip? My guess, the two of them were going to smuggle drugs or guns into Florida. 4 grand would probably be nothing compared to what they could get. The other 4 found out what was going on, or they met with the shady people who were the hookup, and they were killed. That's what it looks like to me, but I could be wrong, for crying out loud I never got the main mysteries right in all 3 seasons of Veronica Mars.

That's what I was thinking, you hit the nail on the head.

Love that last line, btw. :lol: In all my years of watching Murder, She Wrote, I don't think I ever solved a case.

EERILY similar to one I just posted a few days ago. Seriously, it's like a carbon copy.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/barry_clive.html

nationally recognized researcher and first ever computer science grad from Berkeley disappears with boat during ideal sailing conditions. Love the boat name "The Tenacious", which had high-end communications and safety measures.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gray_james.html

here's another water mystery, and a sad one at that. 3 guys delivering boat worth over a half a mil from South Africa to Pacific Northwest (U.S.) *almost* make it, but run into severe storm just miles off coast.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/anstess_john.html

That's what it looks like to me, but I could be wrong, for crying out loud I never got the main mysteries right in all 3 seasons of Veronica Mars.

I don't know you, but I adore you for throwing this out there. VM is probably my favorite TV show of all time. So much so that I paid way too much to help fund the Kickstarter project and now have an autographed poster in my office.

The finale of season two, "Not Pictured" is probably one of the finest hours of TV I've ever seen.

Okay, back on topic now. Just loving the Veronica love! :)

here's another water mystery, and a sad one at that. 3 guys delivering boat worth over a half a mil from South Africa to Pacific Northwest (U.S.) *almost* make it, but run into severe storm just miles off coast.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/anstess_john.html

I JUST got done reading that one right before you posted it and thought it sounded like a real contender for this list.

This one has gotten a lot of media coverage, but I'm still throwing it out there:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcdaniel_benjamin.html

What in the heck happened to THIS guy? If his body were in the cave, wouldn't it have surfaced by now? CP doesn't have a ton of information on the case. I ended up pulling a lot of info from the Wikipedia entry (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Disappearance_of_Ben_McDaniel&redirect=no)on McDaniel. Numerous skilled divers went into that cave trying to find McDaniel after he disappeared, one of whom remarked that he is positive he went further into the cave than anyone previously as the areas he saw were pristine and untouched by humans. Ben's body wasn't in the cave.

That's mysterious in itself. But then you factor in that the guy who was running the place at the time of Ben's disappearance also dies under some odd cirumstances and you start to really wonder...

My own personal theory about the disappearance of Ben McDaniel is that he did drown in the cave, but that the employees removed his body and disposed of it elsewhere because they were worried about liability issues, especially if it was discovered that he drowned because they unlocked the gate for him. I doubt there was foul play, but the people running that place sound shady enough to stage a cover-up like that and make people believe that Ben staged his own disappearance.

My own personal theory about the disappearance of Ben McDaniel is that he did drown in the cave, but that the employees removed his body and disposed of it elsewhere because they were worried about liability issues, especially if it was discovered that he drowned because they unlocked the gate for him. I doubt there was foul play, but the people running that place sound shady enough to stage a cover-up like that and make people believe that Ben staged his own disappearance.

That's a pretty plausible theory, to be quite honest.

If that's the case, then it's SUPER frustrating that no one from the cave would come forward and say that. Instead, multiple people were put at risk trying to collect the reward money McDaniel's parents offered.

My own personal theory about the disappearance of Ben McDaniel is that he did drown in the cave, but that the employees removed his body and disposed of it elsewhere because they were worried about liability issues, especially if it was discovered that he drowned because they unlocked the gate for him. I doubt there was foul play, but the people running that place sound shady enough to stage a cover-up like that and make people believe that Ben staged his own disappearance.
I recently noticed this theory on Reddit and also think it's plausible. I strongly believe he's not in that cave anymore and knowing the owner's background, it wouldn't shock me at all if he had the body removed to avoid any sort of punishment.

On a side note, the thought of cave diving in the area where Ben disappeared is so eerie I couldn't get the grim reaper sign warning out of my head for a few days after watching that episode. Not to mention all that talk about divers who panicked and got stuck in certain pockets of caves. Ugh! Because Ben wasn't certified and that area of the cave is so narrow and dangerous, it's totally possible he accidentally drowned. However, I don't rule out suicide because of his personal problems.

it twists and turns, bends and curves...

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fields_maureen.html

I don't know you, but I adore you for throwing this out there. VM is probably my favorite TV show of all time. So much so that I paid way too much to help fund the Kickstarter project and now have an autographed poster in my office.

The finale of season two, "Not Pictured" is probably one of the finest hours of TV I've ever seen.

Okay, back on topic now. Just loving the Veronica love! :)

Thank you, although I don't agree with your assessment of "Not Pictured", a good episode with an amazing moment, but the resolution to the main mystery was a complete WTF moment. I couldn't buy it.
My own personal theory about the disappearance of Ben McDaniel is that he did drown in the cave, but that the employees removed his body and disposed of it elsewhere because they were worried about liability issues, especially if it was discovered that he drowned because they unlocked the gate for him. I doubt there was foul play, but the people running that place sound shady enough to stage a cover-up like that and make people believe that Ben staged his own disappearance.

I agree with that. They unlocked the gate for him, and didn't stick around. His body was found and the employees and owner freaked out and got rid of the body. May have done what's thought to have happened to Amy Billig's body, just thrown in a swamp for the gators to feed on.

wow, surprised so many people think something hinky going on with the Ben McDaniel case. I don't see any evidence of that at all.

Woman vanishes from residence apparently at night, two young sons left at home. Key found broke off in the lock. Strange group of items left behind and even stranger group of items missing from home. Various calls placed from her phone to people she didn't know. She had been receiving threatening calls from husband's ex-wife.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/butler_teresa.html

As an animal lover, I get depressed by the high volume of cases where dogs and other pets are left unattended in the home and die of starvation or what have you. Not to mention the fear and loneliness they must have went through.

As an animal lover, I get depressed by the high volume of cases where dogs and other pets are left unattended in the home and die of starvation or what have you. Not to mention the fear and loneliness they must have went through.
Same here. I'm always relieved when the pets are found still alive and able to be nursed back to health. I can't watch the Moses and Lila Lall case for this reason--those poor birds.

Nearly always those cases tend to be foul play. You know that faithful, loving owners would never leave their pets to harm intentionally.

Because I have no life and no job at the moment, I've been filling some of my time reading the stories in alphabetical order. It saddens me how many cases have so few details. Sometimes people aren't even reported missing until months or even years later.

Because I have no life and no job at the moment, I've been filling some of my time reading the stories in alphabetical order. It saddens me how many cases have so few details. Sometimes people aren't even reported missing until months or even years later.

That bothers me, too. I mean, how sad is it when no one notices that a person is literally gone for months?

That bothers me, too. I mean, how sad is it when no one notices that a person is literally gone for months?

Exactly! I wonder that too! There was one case where a woman was missing for like 12 years or something and the only reason it eventually got reported was because it was linked to another case. Sorry, I should have save the link for that one. I believe it's listed amongst the B's if anyone should want to go looking for it.

HORRIBLE PARENTS ALERT!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/baker_paul.html

I could have sworn we discussed this one somewhere at some point, but damned if I didn't see it in this thread. Just about every possibility imaginable in this one. The money behind the toilet is weird.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carroll_john.html

nice to see this one getting some attention as it was one of several missing posters hanging in my local Wal-Mart recently. The third Iowa paperboy nobody talks about

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/allen_marc.html

weird case with lots of speculation but precious little in the way hard facts.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/herl_clifford.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hohenshilt_deborah.html

Terrifying.

This one's bizarre: a cop somehow obtains a secret divorce from his wife behind her back in 1974 without her knowing about it, but continues to live with her until their separation 11 years later! And of course, she disappears one year after that and it's pretty obvious who was responsible:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fioretti_rita.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hohenshilt_deborah.html

Terrifying.

"two teeth were discovered lying next to her bed"

:eek: :eek: :eek:

HORRIBLE PARENTS ALERT!!

This case lay dormant for over 40 years, but thankfully now there's a hubbub of activity. Still another case where "Child Protective Services" failed to, you know, do their freakin' job.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hose_gary.html

HORRIBLE PARENTS ALERT!!

This case lay dormant for over 40 years, but thankfully now there's a hubbub of activity. Still another case where "Child Protective Services" failed to, you know, do their freakin' job.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hose_gary.html

Truly disgusting. Good for Gary's brother for being determined enough to still look for him and no longer accept the mother's orders never to mention Gary's name again.

whoa. Found this one again, another missing child's case and this one thought to be possibly connected to Laura Bradbury's. Other possibilities include a run-in with a mountain lion. :eek:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/z/zwieg_travis.html

whoa. Found this one again, another missing child's case and this one thought to be possibly connected to Laura Bradbury's. Other possibilities include a run-in with a mountain lion. :eek:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/z/zwieg_travis.html
Reminds me of Michael Henley :(

In any rugged terrain, it's really unwise to turn your back on a child. I'm not blaming his father or accusing the parents of being neglectful. I'm sure they thought they could keep track of him and it was only for a short time and have been beating themselves up for it ever since. Such a tragic case.

OH MY GOD!!

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/nimmo_donovan.html

Why does she joke about something so serious?! Malingering, perhaps?

Yet another show is going to profile the Timmothy Pitzen case. This time, 20/20 on ID will have it December 28th. Episode title is simply called "Crime".

An unusual one. A 16-year-old boy leaves his home, telling his parents that he'll be back in a few hours. He is never seen again. Eight years later, two of his acquaintances are charged with his murder, but never brought to trial. His body as never been found.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dominguez_jose.html

I was able to find a small mention of the case in a 2005 article about unsolved cases in California. Apparently, the two boys charged with his murder were lovers and Jose found out about it. However, I don't know whether they were afraid Jose would out them and killed him to shut him up or if (as someone on Reddit suggested when I posted the case under "Unresolved Mysteries") Jose was in a relationship with one of them and the second boy convinced the first one to kill him so they could be together.

An unusual one. A 16-year-old boy leaves his home, telling his parents that he'll be back in a few hours. He is never seen again. Eight years later, two of his acquaintances are charged with his murder, but never brought to trial. His body as never been found.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dominguez_jose.html

I was able to find a small mention of the case in a 2005 article about unsolved cases in California. Apparently, the two boys charged with his murder were lovers and Jose found out about it. However, I don't know whether they were afraid Jose would out them and killed him to shut him up or if (as someone on Reddit suggested when I posted the case under "Unresolved Mysteries") Jose was in a relationship with one of them and the second boy convinced the first one to kill him so they could be together.

He looks a lot older than 16 years! :eek:

He looks a lot older than 16 years! :eek:

It's probably the mustache. That can make teenage boys look much older. Perhaps that's why he grew it.

It's probably the mustache. That can make teenage boys look much older. Perhaps that's why he grew it.
I agree. I know a lot of men in their twenties who look like teenage boys without facial hair and teenagers who look like adults with facial hair.

unsolved88 had an interesting blurb about Roger Ellison, whom I posted awhile back on in this thread. Here is the link

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=5077535&posted=1#post5077535

Slight correction of one of my last posts on this thread: Timmothy Pitzen's case was broadcast last night on a new show called "20/20 Presents on ID: Crime", and the episode is called "Little Boy Lost."

Hello, this is my first post and I cannot link, but my heart goes out to Timothy Parry. Not much is found on him, but I don't think he could have survived long without some form of caretaker. Interestingly, he had a brother that passed away at a young age.

If someone else could post the link, I would appreciate that. :)

After reading one of unsolved88's recent posts, I was compelled to dig deeper into the Roger Ellison case. This is one of the first I ever posted about. For those that may need a refresher, he was the 17 year old who vanished from school one morning. Here is his casefile:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/ellison_roger.html

I have read John Pash's ramblings on Websleuths, as well as a website unsolved88 informed me about that accuses Pash. Honestly, I don't know what to think. I could see Pash being involved, I could see him not being involved. Lori's website didn't seem to have much in the way of readers or commenters, so it's hard to know how much this stuff has been corroborated, if at all. I was informed Lori has since died, so those are more questions that will go unanswered.

On one hand, the claim of Pash digging by his house and gardening in the winter seem awfully suspicious. On the other hand, would Pash really hold underage drinking, drugging and sex parties right next to the school? Surely, somebody would have found out about that over time, it seems. I used to mentor students after school and do other volunteer work and was often at school after hours. There was always a fair number of students, parents, teachers and other personnel at the school after classes. Roger's school was also near a busy road, with at least one busy business (a bakery) nearby.

There's also the issue of Pash supposedly visiting Roger's mother and claiming Roger was suicidal. If it's true, that does make Pash seem more guilty. But why didn't he get in trouble for failing to report this to authorities or the school counselor? Many claim Roger wasn't suicidal and it doesn't seem like he was, but his parents admit he was preoccupied and such shortly before he vanished. And you can never predict these things.

I don't know what to make of Pash. If he were guilty, would he issue such long ramblings on a public forum, where every word could be scrutinized? But if Roger left school that day, surely somebody must have seen him leave. There were hundreds of potential witnesses around. Could he have slipped over to Pash's house next door?

And then I unearthed this nugget: a male classmate of Roger's threatened to kill him two years previous in a dispute over a girl. It seems unlikely this was carried out as years passed with the guy taking no action, but sometimes people wait for "revenge."

And this is yet another example of lazy police. They had informed his mother that he "ran off with his girlfriend and would be right back." His mother naturally didn't buy that as Roger didn't have a girlfriend at the time, and in fact, was a bit of a loner. He was the youngest of 5 children and usually stayed home with his parents, who had fallen on hard financial times.

And then you have the unidentified men, the possibility of hitchhiking, the hunters in the woods story. Truly baffling case. I have no guesses on this one.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cerda_rogelio.html

Authorities believe he drowned, but the family doesn't buy it. His sister Cindy, who was 11 at the time he vanished, keeps a blog. I honestly don't know what to think about it. She and her family apparently not only believe he didn't drown that day, but that he's still alive because of "sightings". I have to wonder if this is just a family that can't accept that their loved one is gone. What do you think?

http://missingsince1975.blogspot.com/

I was thinking about this case the other day. I can't help but think that the family is denial and that Rogelio did in fact drown in a tragic accident.

Cindy seems to imply that her family and the family who was with Rogelio that day had a serious falling out, particularly with Rogelio's girlfriend Betty. I have a feeling that the falling out stemmed from the fact that the Cerdas blamed them for (in their mind) helping Rogelio run away. While not outright stated, I get the impression that the change of plans about their destination on June 29 is part of what makes her suspect them. The other family, the Ayalas, knew it was a tragic accident and despite feeling extremely sorry, couldn't and wouldn't co-sign on the Cerdas' theory of their son being alive.

Cindy even takes what I perceive as a dig at Betty in a blog post about a debut (probably a quinceañera) that Rogelio stood in:

You stood in a debut in May of 1975 (and Betty allowed you to stand with her?-it's no wonder, though, since she married the guy I saw her with, David Ramos, just as soon as you disappeared, in his white car at Woodlawn park and she is now Betty J. Ramos) and it was one that I will never forget. The girl you stood with, Carolina, was very nice and she looked so pretty in her dress. There was a live band and the song "Dance with me" was popular and was played that night. To this day, when mom hears that song, it takes her back. I believe you took mom out to the dance floor to dance with her and she just loved it. Now, if you could just do that one more time, take her by the hand and lead her to the dance floor... it's never too late for a mother waiting to see her only son once again.

I take from that post that Cindy saw/sees Betty as being unfaithful because she went with another boy after the disappearance. My question: what else was Betty supposed to do? Never date or marry in the hopes that Rogelio would show up? Betty, in all likelihood, knew Rogelio died in a tragic undertow accident and had to go on with her life. Perhaps Cindy was upset because of the wedding apparently taking place not long (I have a feeling that the phrase "just as soon as you disappeared" is likely an exaggeration on Cindy's part) after the disappearance, but in reality, that's not her or her parents' business.

I did a little searching to see if I could find a record of when David Ramos and Betty got married. A couple by that name, both born in 1960, were married in Bexar County, Texas on November 22, 1978. If this is them--and I'm pretty sure it is-- they certainly didn't abruptly get married as a soon as Rogelio vanished as Cindy claims. Perhaps they began seeing each other right around the time of the disappearance, but the marriage came three years later.

I feel bad for the Cerda family, but I think this was a tragic accident and they can't or won't accept that Rogelio is gone and that no one was really at fault.

I feel bad for the Cerda family, but I think this was a tragic accident and they can't or won't accept that Rogelio is gone and that no one was really at fault.
I agree. He was seen caught in an undertow and never resurfaced, so I'm pretty inclined to believe there's no foul play or running away here. And if he was swept out to sea, chances are pretty much nil that his body will ever be found.

It is a very tragic case, and I think the family is just holding onto hope because of their desperation to believe he's alive rather than drowned at such a young age. I really feel bad for them.

Truly baffling case. I have no guesses on this one.
I feel the same way. Pash does seem quite odd, but there's really nothing concrete to go on. I can see things going either way with him.

I think the only thing I feel pretty convinced about is that I don't think Roger ran off or harmed himself. I think he came to harm, but the question is how, what caused him to leave the school grounds, and perhaps most pertinently, what exactly happened after he was seen at his locker?

I am wondering though why he took the school bus rather than driving his car? It said he did this regularly, so maybe it's not really anything of note, but it's part of the reason I don't believe he ran off. I think Roger's nerves may have something to do with someone threatening him.

It's a shame no one saw exactly where he headed after putting his books in his locker. If he didn't head to class, where the heck did he go? Could someone have accosted him on his way or lured him so he never made it there? Even if so, how did nobody see anything?

I am wondering though why he took the school bus rather than driving his car? It said he did this regularly, so maybe it's not really anything of note, but it's part of the reason I don't believe he ran off. I think Roger's nerves may have something to do with someone threatening him.

Oh, good point. He also had a motorcycle. Strange.

I think another reason why I think it's unlikely that Pash was having these underage orgies and such in his house was that he had a wife and kids. It seems unlikely he could carry that on with them in the house. I've heard various theories that Pash was gay/bi, a pedophile and that Roger was gay, but nothing concrete to substantiate that, nor any hard proof Pash was having a relationship with Roger or any other student.

Roger has 3 brothers and a sister. The sisters posts at Websleuths occasionally and claimed UM turned down the case. I have no idea why, it would be perfect for that show.

Oh, good point. He also had a motorcycle. Strange.

I wonder if he figured it was a good way to save money on gas (I may be reaching here, since this was after the embargo). You'd think if Roger was running away or planning on going somewhere other than school, he'd have taken his own vehicle.



I think another reason why I think it's unlikely that Pash was having these underage orgies and such in his house was that he had a wife and kids. It seems unlikely he could carry that on with them in the house. I've heard various theories that Pash was gay/bi, a pedophile and that Roger was gay, but nothing concrete to substantiate that, nor any hard proof Pash was having a relationship with Roger or any other student.

Right. There's no proof. I'm not saying that Pash has to be innocent, but some of these rumors seem really outlandish. Not to mention, if Roger regularly went over to Pash's house to turn in homework, I don't think Pash would intentionally harm Roger knowing that fingers might be pointed at him. Also, from everything I've read, Pash was teaching that day (unless I'm missing something). When would he have had time to harm Roger if he was teaching all day, including in the morning when he disappeared?


Roger has 3 brothers and a sister. The sisters posts at Websleuths occasionally and claimed UM turned down the case. I have no idea why, it would be perfect for that show.
Maybe in the process of selecting segments, this one was eliminated, sadly. They had so many segments and requests from LE and families. I can definitely imagine a really good segment being done on this one, too, including reenactments of Roger at his locker.

Also, from everything I've read, Pash was teaching that day (unless I'm missing something). When would he have had time to harm Roger if he was teaching all day, including in the morning when he disappeared?

Most teachers usually have a free period, so I suppose there may have been a small window of opportunity there. Some have speculated that Pash stored the body somewhere, then waited until everyone was gone and did something with it. But like everything else, it's just rumor.

Most teachers usually have a free period, so I suppose there may have been a small window of opportunity there. Some have speculated that Pash stored the body somewhere, then waited until everyone was gone and did something with it. But like everything else, it's just rumor.
I guess that's possible. It would be really helpful if we knew exactly when his free period was and where he was at 8:30 that morning.

A weird one. A 20-year-old man and his new wife move out of his father's home in Omaha. They plan to visit his sister who lives in Des Moines, Iowa, about two hours away. They never arrive and neither they nor their car are ever seen again. Then, 22 years later, the wife's family contacts the husband's family to ask if they know where the husband is because they haven't seen him since 1971! There's basically no info about the wife.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/harris_raymond.html

A weird one. A 20-year-old man and his new wife move out of his father's home in Omaha. They plan to visit his sister who lives in Des Moines, Iowa, about two hours away. They never arrive and neither they nor their car are ever seen again. Then, 22 years later, the wife's family contacts the husband's family to ask if they know where the husband is because they haven't seen him since 1971! There's basically no info about the wife.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/harris_raymond.html

I remember that one. I tend to think the father was involved.

I remember that one. I tend to think the father was involved.

Well, they say the father was never considered a suspect. But that may not mean anything. Even if he can't be publicly named a suspect, police may have/had their own off-the-record suspicions about him.

I'd like to know why Raymond and his father weren't getting along. Did it all just start when he married Mary and she moved in? Did Mary get pregnant and that's why they married? Were Raymond and Mary basically being freeloader and Mr. Harris had a legitimate reason to be pissed about the living arrangement? Or was there tension between father and son long before Mary ever entered the picture?

We'll probably never know, but I get a dysfunctional vibe about the Harris family.

That age progression sketch is just downright creepy!

Taken from the Doenetwork website. 1978 Case of an American girl visiting Australia. Liked to Hitchike and was probably abducted whilst doing so.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/644dfnsw.html

I just checked out the blog. Same ole, same ole. She's posting lots of selfies these days (frowning in every picture) as well as lots of pictures of her evil-looking cats. My personal favorite is the one pic of her after she just devoured a bucket of chicken.


I don't know why that made me LOL, but it did.

One thing I find interesting about her blog is when she discusses tips she gets on certain cases, but since some of the info is off the record, she can't actually name the case. Then my curiosity is piqued and I go looking through the site trying to find out which case she's talking about. I actually kind of find that fun.

One such case she made a post about a few years back was a 1993 case of a man who was said to be suicidal when he vanished. She was apparently contacted by a woman who hung out with him the day he went missing who said he was in very high spirits that day. The woman took offense at the fact that her friend was believed to be depressed and/or suicidal. I think she may be referring to the case of Leonard Branzuela who is believed to have jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/branzuela_leonard.html

I haven't looked at the Charley Project hardly at all in the last weeks, maybe months. It's not that I don't want to, it's just I've been busy doing other things.

I just checked out the blog. Same ole, same ole. She's posting lots of selfies these days (frowning in every picture) as well as lots of pictures of her evil-looking cats. My personal favorite is the one pic of her after she just devoured a bucket of chicken.

Love cats. Love chicken, too.:wave:

I haven't looked at the Charley Project hardly at all in the last weeks, maybe months. It's not that I don't want to, it's just I've been busy doing other things.

I just checked out the blog. Same ole, same ole. She's posting lots of selfies these days (frowning in every picture) as well as lots of pictures of her evil-looking cats. My personal favorite is the one pic of her after she just devoured a bucket of chicken.

Goodness me, even her Cats appear to be frowning! The Black kitten is cute though.

Goodness me, even her Cats appear to be frowning! The Black kitten is cute though.

GRUMPY CAT!!

A woman who sent in a tip to police about Mock's disappearance was later murdered: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mock_peggy.html

Another case that could really benefit from some media exposure. A pregnant 12 year old girl living in a cult-like pentecostal community: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mays_celina.html In 1998, her cousin Sean Smith (whose mother ran the church and appears to be the cousin mentioned on the CP casefile) was charged (http://articles.philly.com/1998-01-31/news/25749514_1_sexual-assault-jack-smith-sean-smith) with aggravated sexual assault against two underage female congregants.

Possibly she initially left of her own accord, but I don't think trafficking is out the question: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mendez_marta.html

A woman who sent in a tip to police about Mock's disappearance was later murdered: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mock_peggy.html

What a horrifying and bizarre case. Weird that a nightclub would be open on Christmas.

Another case that could really benefit from some media exposure. A pregnant 12 year old girl living in a cult-like pentecostal community: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mays_celina.html In 1998, her cousin Sean Smith (whose mother ran the church and appears to be the cousin mentioned on the CP casefile) was charged (http://articles.philly.com/1998-01-31/news/25749514_1_sexual-assault-jack-smith-sean-smith) with aggravated sexual assault against two underage female congregants.

Considering she was pregnant at age 11, I'm guessing she was unfortunately sexually assaulted in some manner. Her family sounds messed up, to put it mildly.

What a horrifying and bizarre case. Weird that a nightclub would be open on Christmas.


Some bars re-open on Christmas because it's profitable, customers come in who feel the need to get away from their families (a relative who owned a bar said his place would fill up by mid-afternoon). Not the place I'd want to go on a holiday, but <shrugs>. I wonder how much investigation was done on the two men that murdered the informant.

As far as Celina Mays, there's no mention if her family or even her doctor ever contacted social services or the police. If none of them did, I can't understand why. Even if the father was the 16 year old that she claimed, it possibly was a crime for him to have sex with an 11 year old. It was a situation that clearly needed to be investigated.

http://charleyproject.org/cases/t/thrower_kimberly.html

This one has always creeped me out a bit. Some guy escorts her into the woods, never to be seen again.

Some bars re-open on Christmas because it's profitable, customers come in who feel the need to get away from their families (a relative who owned a bar said his place would fill up by mid-afternoon). Not the place I'd want to go on a holiday, but <shrugs>. I wonder how much investigation was done on the two men that murdered the informant.

Okay, that makes sense. I had to get away from my family, too, although I just stayed at my hotel.

The part about the guy picking her up, taking her somewhere and dropping her back off at the bar seems odd. Wonder if that was ever verified. I'd also be curious to know when the nightclub burned down.

Can't remember if we did this one or not

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/brownlee_kellie.html

It was mentioned in this thread and I think a few others, but the Jennifer Kesse disappearance is so freaking frustrating.

The abductor/person of interest seriously has the best luck known to man. I cannot believe that the one potentially good shot of him was obscured. Argh.

I don't know if Mark Himebaugh's (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/himebaugh_mark.html)disappearance has been posted yet, but it appears that UM turned down the case. There's a pretty horrifying allegation (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Convicted-Sex-Offender-Person-of-Interest-Mark-Himebaugh-Thomas-Butcavage-Video-Sex-Abuse-320683412.html)made by a man against Thomas Butcavage, who's in prison for sexual abuse against other boys but was never charged in this case.

I don't know if Mark Himebaugh's (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/himebaugh_mark.html)disappearance has been posted yet, but it appears that UM turned down the case. There's a pretty horrifying allegation (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Convicted-Sex-Offender-Person-of-Interest-Mark-Himebaugh-Thomas-Butcavage-Video-Sex-Abuse-320683412.html)made by a man against Thomas Butcavage, who's in prison for sexual abuse against other boys but was never charged in this case.

You must be a mindreader soilentgreen, I was just about to post that. I did mention Himebaugh's disappearance earlier. And you are correct, the potential update is very horrifying.

They're saying the composite sketch looks like Butcavage. Personally, I don't see it, but he remains a good suspect in any event. I had never heard UM turned down the case, sad that they did.

Another classic example of leaving a child unsupervised "just for a minute."

Forgive me if this one has been discussed already

http://www.charleyproject.org>cases>hollan

Tried to post a link, but can't get it to work. Anyway, it's the case of Kelly Junior Hollan missing from Kentucky in 1982.

Forgive me if this one has been discussed already

http://www.charleyproject.org>cases>hollan

Tried to post a link, but can't get it to work. Anyway, it's the case of Kelly Junior Hollan missing from Kentucky in 1982.

I did post that one before, but it can't hurt to have another mention. At first I didn't think anything about the mother being involved, but then her not reporting him missing until that night under the conditions just didn't wash with me.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hollan_kelly.html

I find this one to be really sad as this young woman had everything going for her and then she just...vanished into thin air. Another one of those 'went missing with her car' cases.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schepers_karen.html

I did post that one before, but it can't hurt to have another mention. At first I didn't think anything about the mother being involved, but then her not reporting him missing until that night under the conditions just didn't wash with me.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hollan_kelly.html

I know there was mention made that Kelly's mother had epilepsy, but he was outside for more than 8 hours in winter weather and apparently without supervision.

Here's a 1994 article (http://articles.philly.com/1994-08-21/news/25842465_1_mark-himebaugh-psychic-powers-cadaver-seeking-dogs) that mentions UM declining to profile Himebaugh's disappearance, because it couldn't be re-enacted with any drama. The informant had went to police about Butcavage the year prior.

As far as Scheper's disappearance, just based on my own experiences driving in that area, part of her route from Carpentersville to her home in Elgin would have had her driving near and/or crossing the Fox River (probably on Dundee Ave/Route 25). Vehicles go into the river there on occasion.

WHOA!

The first case I ever posted on this thread was that of Leigh Occhi, which was actually a case that had been filmed for UM, but never aired for some reason. She was a young teenager from Tupelo, Mississippi who went missing around the time of Hurricane Andrew in 1992. Several including myself believed that the mother's actions and story didn't make sense and found her to be suspicious.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/occhi_leigh.html

Well, as somewhat of an update to this case, someone just posted this on a long-ago blog post on Charley. I'll just copy and paste.

"Leigh’s classmates have said that she would frequently come to school bruised and even once claimed she was kicked by a horse when she came in with black eyes…
I think the most likely scenario is that her mother or step father unintentionally (sic) killed her in a fit of rage. Could have even been in the evening. They put the clothes in the hamper and cleaned up some in the bathroom. They then realized that the best option was to fake an intrusion into the home. They disposed of the body and mother left for work the next morning. Called the home phone and came home and pretended to be surprised when faced with the bloody scene. The glasses were an added touch to make the intruder or serial killer theory more likely.
While polygraphs are inadmissible they can be very damning."

That just makes me think the mother is involved all the more. I never bought her ridiculous story that an intruder just so happened to assault Leigh in the very narrow time frame given and during a freaking hurricane no less. Never made any sense. I hope she has to face justice one day. I'm very saddened Leigh apparently had to endure abuse like that and then be murdered by someone that was supposed to be protecting her.

And if the mother was concerned for her safety, then why leave her home along during a damn hurricane?! Especially since that is the first time she was left alone. I'd be curious if the police ever tested the blood to see how long it had been there, I'm betting it had been there longer than the mother would like people to believe.

I know there was mention made that Kelly's mother had epilepsy, but he was outside for more than 8 hours in winter weather and apparently without supervision.

And that's one of the things I don't buy about the mother's story. I know kids sometimes play in the snow and that, but to believe this little 6 year old kid was out all day by himself after a heavy snowstorm just doesn't make sense. Eventually he would come in because he was cold or tired or hungry or bored or had to use the restroom. Either the mother is guilty or at the very least incredibly dumb, ignorant and neglectful.

And why would she just assume her son had gone over to a neighbor's house and didn't bother to check? I'm also bothered that she didn't start looking for him until after 6, I imagine it would have started getting dark by that point, if it wasn't already dark. No doubt Kelly might have been afraid to walk home alone by that point. I also have a hard time believing she wasn't allowed to use the phone until midnight. Couldn't she have just gone to a neighbor's house to use the phone?

Yeah, her entire story makes no sense.

And that's one of the things I don't buy about the mother's story. I know kids sometimes play in the snow and that, but to believe this little 6 year old kid was out all day by himself after a heavy snowstorm just doesn't make sense. Eventually he would come in because he was cold or tired or hungry or bored or had to use the restroom. Either the mother is guilty or at the very least incredibly dumb, ignorant and neglectful.

And why would she just assume her son had gone over to a neighbor's house and didn't bother to check? I'm also bothered that she didn't start looking for him until after 6, I imagine it would have started getting dark by that point, if it wasn't already dark. No doubt Kelly might have been afraid to walk home alone by that point. I also have a hard time believing she wasn't allowed to use the phone until midnight. Couldn't she have just gone to a neighbor's house to use the

Yeah, her entire story makes no sense.

I don't believe her for a moment, either.

Here's a 1994 article (http://articles.philly.com/1994-08-21/news/25842465_1_mark-himebaugh-psychic-powers-cadaver-seeking-dogs) that mentions UM declining to profile Himebaugh's disappearance, because it couldn't be re-enacted with any drama. The informant had went to police about Butcavage the year prior.

As far as Scheper's disappearance, just based on my own experiences driving in that area, part of her route from Carpentersville to her home in Elgin would have had her driving near and/or crossing the Fox River (probably on Dundee Ave/Route 25). Vehicles go into the river there on occasion.

I guess I could see this because it's a typical type of missing child case by an unknown abductor. I do think Mark was profiled on America's Most Wanted at some point?

Whoa. A programming alert here, tomorrow there will be a rerun at 8 a.m. EST on ID of True Crime with Aphrodite Jones that will feature the bizarre disappearance of this man, which I posted a while back.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fonder_edward.html

Although it sounds like the episode might focus more on his daughter's murdering of a church parishioner, I have to imagine that Ed's disappearance will also be covered. There is a lot more to the stories than the blurb on CP, and everything I've read on it is just plain weird, including a dead cat in the freezer.

Whoa. Surprised to see that Forensic Files aired this case last night, I remember reading the Charley Project case file

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/brannen_melissa.html

I'm looking at the photograph of this missing woman and all I can say is WTH?? Is that severe bruising all over her face?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/916dfca.html

These are Doenetwork unidentified victims, but I am surprised neither case has much internet hype
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/353ufca.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/157ufaz.html

A quick yet weird old case

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/loomis_charlotte.html

Several things here:

That her luggage founds its way to Michigan but she did not is odd. She could have disappeared from the airport, but there would have been a ton of potential witnesses around.

I'd be curious to know how she was supposed to get to Detroit as the airport her luggage was sent to is a good couple of hours away.

The Bay City - Saginaw - Midland - Flint area is an interesting group of 4 big cities in Michigan. Bay City (birthplace of Madonna), Saginaw (birthplace of Stevie Wonder), Midland (home of Dow) and Flint of the recent and atrocious Flint water crisis.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/157ufaz.html

It sounds like she may have went to the initial area willingly (the straw hat), but it's hard to imagine a heavily pregnant woman getting up that ridge of her own volition. I'm wondering how much media attention this case received at the time.

That her luggage founds its way to Michigan but she did not is odd. She could have disappeared from the airport, but there would have been a ton of potential witnesses around.

Someone posted an interesting comment to whereaboutsstillunknown (https://whereaboutsstillunknown.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/charlotte-loomis/) about Charlotte's family. There's no way to know if this is someone who actually has credible information or some armchair psychic stirring the pot.

If travelers or employees had seen Loomis at the airport with an adult, they would have assumed that it was a relative or an airline employee assisting her. There's the still unsolved murder of Margie Dabney (http://legacy.wfaa.com/story/news/local/2014/08/06/13454806/); despite a crowd of people, no one seems to have saw her with anyone.

Another weird thing about Charlotte Loomis was that, I know it's not unheard of for a 14 year old girl to fly by herself, but I don't think it's common either. New Jersey and Michigan aren't exactly low-crime states, so I have concerns if she was being shuttled between those two places unsupervised.

this one has stuck with me. Definitely think the mother was involved.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/meadows_lucy.html

The mother obviously did something to her.

She failed TWO polygraph tests
She changed her story several times
and then the eyewitness account of what happened at her house the night before.

The first thought which entered my mind was that she possibly jumped to her death from the Golden Gate Bridge after having parked her car near it.

The second thought was that she had possibly voluntarily disappeared to start a new life in another state or another country. I think this is far-fetched compared to the former though.

The selling of her belongings is what definitely caught my eye; unless she was having a yard sale or getting rid of certain items which she no longer needed or wanted, and intended to buy new items in place of them, I suspect that she was selling them with the intention to commit suicide afterwards.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fox_crystal.html

http://http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/nerenberg_audrey.html

This one always made me sad. Her father has spent all these years trying to find out what happened to her to no avail. I think he was off one one speculation though, he says he believes she was adopted and given a new name and SSN. She was almost 19 she she disappeared making adoption unlikely.

The first thought which entered my mind was that she possibly jumped to her death from the Golden Gate Bridge after having parked her car near it.

The second thought was that she had possibly voluntarily disappeared to start a new life in another state or another country. I think this is far-fetched compared to the former though.

The selling of her belongings is what definitely caught my eye; unless she was having a yard sale or getting rid of certain items which she no longer needed or wanted, and intended to buy new items in place of them, I suspect that she was selling them with the intention to commit suicide afterwards.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fox_crystal.html

Agreed. I suspect she jumped as well. So sad.

http://http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/nerenberg_audrey.html

This one always made me sad. Her father has spent all these years trying to find out what happened to her to no avail. I think he was off one one speculation though, he says he believes she was adopted and given a new name and SSN. She was almost 19 she she disappeared making adoption unlikely.

that link didn't work, I think it's because the http at the beginning is listed twice. This should work.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/nerenberg_audrey.html

that link didn't work, I think it's because the http at the beginning is listed twice. This should work.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/n/nerenberg_audrey.html
I always had an affinity with this case as Audrey disappeared on my date/year of birth. I believe she is long gone.

Agreed. I suspect she jumped as well. So sad.


Very sad indeed. It just seems likely since she hasn't been heard from after having been seen in the vicinity.

Forensic Files played this one last night:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/ogrady_jessica.html

Thank you for fixing that for me, Wiseguy! User error on my part.