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Old 06-16-2025, 07:14 PM   #106
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Look, we knew this plan wasn't great when it was proposed. Sutter Health Park in Sacramento simply isn't a Major League facility. Yes, the Oakland Coliseum has its own suite of problems, but at least its mound wasn't rock hard and the locker room had enough lockers.

Recently the Twins' Pablo Lopez went on the IL with a shoulder injury and his teammate, Joe Ryan, did not hold back, telling the media that the mound in Sacramento played a large role in causing it. This is not the first complaint, as it seems like every week or two there is some sort of reporting about the difficulties of playing in Sac. What is causing the issues and what will, or even can, be done about it? Let's discuss....
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There was a lot of unpack from the A’s gentle lifting up dirt ceremony in Las Vegas. From John Fisher resorting to the most pathetic PR ploy in the book, exploiting children, Fisher exploiting the memory of those no longer with us, to an admission of collusion with Rob Manfred and Major League Baseball over the relocation.

But throughout this entire farce, Fisher, Manfred, that cavalcade of dodgy Nevada politicians kept going on and on about the A’s being a local team.

That’s what got me. For all this talk of A’s, Las Vegas, local…none wanted to say the quiet part out loud despite the fact it was slapping in the face.
If the A’s wanted to be local, as everyone was claiming, well shoot, they’d be in Las Vegas right now. There is a perfectly good triple-A ballpark that is both newer and nicer than Sacramento’s Sutter Health Park. And seeing as the Aviators are the A’s triple-a affiliated, I’m sure the two sides could have worked something out.

If you want to be local…be local. Move there. Take the loss of TV money and commit to Las Vegas as you want them to commit to your organizations.
Oh yeah, in media scrums Fisher kept talking about the need for significant local investors. You’ve been trumpeting that line for two years now, blood. Maybe it’s time you take the hint.

There is another aspect to the local-centric talking points. If you want to be local, why not call the team the Las Vegas A’s today. Right now. Give them something that shows you may actually come to town.

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A’s Luis Severino complains about Sacramento ballpark, says it’s like pitching in spring training

Why has he (Serevino) been so much better on the road?

“Because we play in a big-league stadium on the road,” he said.

“We don’t have that at home right now. It’s not the same. It’s not the same atmosphere. We don’t have a lot of fans. Our clubhouse is in left field. So, when we play day games, we have to just be in the sun. There’s no air conditioning there, too. It’s really tough.”

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Athletics starting pitcher Luis Severino said he’s still not enjoying pitching at his new home in Sacramento — and it doesn’t seem like that will change anytime soon.

Severino listed smaller crowds, a lack of air conditioning and a different kind of energy, among other factors, as drawbacks to pitching at Sutter Health Ballpark — the minor-league stadium the A’s retrofitted into their home park this season after leaving Oakland Coliseum.

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A year and a half ago, I wrote about the unconscionable John Fisher, the inept, soulless owner of the formerly-Oakland A’s. When the team announced that it would be temporarily crashing on Sacramento’s couch, I pointed out that the incompetence of this ownership knows no depth or bounds: they they will always find new ways to screw up.

Now we are near the mid-point of that first season in Sacramento, and Fisher hasn’t disappointed. In fact, the creativity of his innate incompetence continues to surprise, as the team has refused to even adopt the name of their host city: they are not called the "Sacramento A’s", but rather just "The Athletics" — devoid of a city name entirely. Sacramento is a baseball town, but it’s also a proud spot with a rightful chip on its shoulder, overlooked among California’s larger cities despite its obvious importance to the state; Fisher refusing to so much as put the city’s name on the team’s chest is a grievous misread of the town’s character. And it gets worse: because the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority has formally sponsored the team, fans in not-to-be-uttered Sacramento must endure the further indignity of "Visit Las Vegas" signs plastered all over their own outfield. Add to this the highest ticket prices in MLB, and in just a few months John Fisher has achieved in Sacramento what took him years in Oakland: fans that hate his guts. And not only is attendance predictably bad in Sacramento, the on-field product is also affected, with ace Luis Severino openly talking about how much he dislikes the minor league park.

Okay, so Sacramento is a listing wreck; how are things coming along with the team’s new home in Las Vegas? If anything, it’s worse — and there are so many problems with the Vegas stadium as conceived, it’s hard to know where to start. The small site and scorching summer temperatures have necessitated a fixed dome, which is infamously problematic in baseball; the on-strip location is terrible for locals; the attendance projections are delusional; and the planned on-site Bally’s hotel/casino is unlikely to ever be built.

And these were the problems that were clear two years ago; since then, everything has more or less moved against Fisher’s plans in Vegas. First, on the demand side, Vegas has hit economic headwinds, for myriad reasons: Vegas has gotten much more expensive; gambling is not exclusive to Vegas as it once was; international tourism is way down. Any decline to tourism doubly hits Fisher: not only is he relying on tourists for a laughable 8,000 fans per game, but with the Vegas economy itself so dependent on tourism, any decline will surely affect the local entertainment dollar as well.

On the supply side, it’s even grimmer: steel tariffs have surged, and construction costs are up across the board. And the tight schedule makes it more expensive: by not having yet started construction but with an immovable date of Opening Day 2028, stadium construction will end up costing much more. So the stadium that was once going to cost $1.5B is now north of $1.75B — and on its way to $2B.

I bring all of this up now because this past Monday was a "groundbreaking" for the stadium — which earned its air quotes when the needlessly hardhatted dignitaries drove their shovels not into the actual ground, but rather an indoor planter (?!). This is already pretty bad, but groundbreakings are after all PR events, and performative digging is to be expected. However, if there’s one dimension you can count on John Fisher to be truly groundbreaking, it’s in new levels of incompetence, and he delivered on Monday: as Doug Puppel of The Engineering News-Record reported, the construction equipment in the background was rented as props for the day. Yes, in this Potemkin groundbreaking, even the construction equipment was a sham. Why not use, like, actual construction equipment? Because there isn’t any — and there isn’t any, because construction hasn’t actually started. And construction hasn’t started because John Fisher doesn’t have the money.

But wait, isn’t he a billionaire? Yes, but across essentially three illiquid assets: his Gap inheritance; the San Jose Earthquakes; and the A’s. In terms of money towards the project, he has the (infamous) $350M from the state of Nevada, and then $300M in debt from Goldman Sachs. The only new source of funding in the past year is a $175M deal with Aramark — though as David Samson points out, a deal with a concessionaire as a part of stadium construction isn’t that notable. (Also, aside: Aramark sucks.)

All of this leaves John Fisher needing (at least) ~$1B. It’s easy to get numb to dollar figures, so take it from someone who has raised a bunch of venture capital: that is a lot of money. As I discussed over a year ago, he can find capital in one of three ways: he can take on debt, he can sell equity, or he can pony up.

Debt is the instrument one would normally go to for a large construction project, as it’s non-dilutive financing. But as Todd Saran’s thread from 2024 elucidates, those who underwrite debt — banks — are going to look at cash flow: they need to know that they can get paid back! Debt analysts are going to care quite a bit about (say) the A’s fanciful attendance projections. Traditional lenders will find plenty to puke on in the A’s plans (and the $300M in debt from Goldman assuredly has some gnarly conditions that assures that they will get theirs). Now, there may be some other pockets of debt out there. Over at The Rickey Report, Alex Espinoza looked into some MLB sources of funds, but these too are finite. Many people believe that "MLB won’t let Vegas fail", but the numbers in Vegas are too large for MLB to bail Fisher out alone — and the two facilities that seem to be available from MLB to extend debt to a single team amount to just ~$225M.

If debt options are exhausted, the other possibility — and the one that John Fisher has been chasing for the last two years — is to sell equity. This is what a venture-backed business does to raise money: it sells off a piece of itself, using the proceeds to run the business. However, there is a basic problem with selling equity in the A’s to fund the stadium in Vegas: someone needs to buy it. And someone buying equity needs to make money, which they will do by selling their equity later at a higher price. So when you’re buying equity in a private company, there is the obvious question: what is the price, anyway? (That is, what is the company worth?) And what will it be worth in the future? (What is the company’s growth in valuation?) The kinds of questions that equity investors ask are different from banks: namely, not how can you pay me back but how are you growing? Problematically for anyone looking at buying equity, the A’s aren’t growing, they’re shrinking: they have not only nuked their entire fanbase (and clearly not won any new fans in Sacramento!), they have had replies off on all of their social media accounts since 2023. It is hard to imagine a bigger red flag for a consumer-facing brand: a brand that has so thoroughly alienated so many customers that it lives in fear of customers entirely.

That said, for a sufficiently low price, equity investors could be enticed, and this is where it gets sticky for Fisher: despite the encouragement of A’s fans, he does not, in fact, want to give up a controlling interest in the team. For the math to work, the valuation needs to be eye-wateringly high: Forbes pegged the value of the A’s at $1.2B (when they had a stadium!) and the Orioles sold for $1.725B last year, but neither of those valuations is really high enough for Fisher to raise the kind of dough he needs without giving up control. According to CNBC reporting, the A’s were looking to raise $550M at a $2B enterprise valuation which is both absolute lunacy and exactly what Todd Saran predicted eighteen months ago. This price is delusional because it’s pricing in a bunch of things that haven’t happened yet (like building the stadium!), and the A’s will be on the hook for any cost overruns — and if they default on their debt in the process, the equity will be worth zero. (If you are, like me, a David Samson fan, you hear that "zero" followed with rhetorical florish like "zilch!" and "nada!") Added to all of the other problems in this deal: it’s been out there for a long, long time. If you are the kind of person or institution who is a candidate to participate in this deal, you have already seen it — and passed on it.

If debt and equity are both off the table, this leaves the last option, and to those with a cursory view of the A’s, it’s the easiest and most obvious: this dude is a billionaire — can’t he just…​ write a check?! And here we get to the illiquidity of those other assets: his Gap inheritance and the San Jose Earthquakes. There are lots of reasons why Fisher would rather not part with either: not only does it run counter to his base instinct of hoarding his wealth, but he will also owe significant federal and (presuming he still lives in San Francisco) California state taxes. But it’s an indicator of just how exhausted the other paths are that this does indeed seem to be the path that Fisher is taking: it was announced earlier this month that he is looking to sell a controlling interest in the San Jose Earthquakes. This isn’t the only MLS team up for sale (the Vancouver Whitecaps are also on the block), and it’s not clear how much he’s selling (just that it’s a controlling interest) or at what price, but the team is worth $600M — there’s surely money to be raised by selling the stake. There’s the Gap, too: at Friday’s close ($21.90), Fisher’s 45.8M shares are worth ~$962M. All of this wealth is very significant, but the assets are not enough to get Fisher all the way there: even if he were to unload the totality of these holdings (at, say, $1.5B), he would owe so much in tax (up to ~37%!) that it would significantly reduce the capital available to the stadium. And he would still be on the hook for any construction overage — and without any financial backstop whatsoever.

So Monday was significant in that it has broken ground on something very important: the end game for John Fisher. I don’t think Fisher will find a substantial investor (it’s hard to find the dumb money when you are, in fact, the dumb money), but it’s not inconceivable that he will liquidate a significant amount of his own assets to pay for the stadium and its inevitable overages. I view this as unlikely, but I would honestly be delighted by it: not only for the fortune he would owe in taxes, but also because he would be staking his own inherited wealth on his desert folly — and there would be a very real possibility that he would lose it all. It would be gloriously fitting for John Fisher, whose two existential fears are clearly that he is an incapable dunce and that he will fumble his birthright, to manage to confirm both in a single, spectacular disaster.

But the far more likely outcome is that Fisher fiddles while Sacramento and Las Vegas burn. In Sacramento, season ticket holders — having been badly burned by the John Fisher experience — will not re-up. The MLB players union, long underserving its own membership by allowing this travesty, will demand significant changes for next year. Fisher himself will hold out for an equity investor in the A’s, finding a way to botch (or delay) a sale of the Quakes. In Vegas, the progress on the stadium will be essentially nil, awaiting not merely the financing but the many missing pieces needed to begin construction. As time passes on the quiet site, it will be obvious that they are stalled, even by the comically vague schedule standard that the A’s have set for themselves.

Finally, at some point in the fall or perhaps early winter, it will all snap: it will be incontrovertable that there will be no opening day in Vegas in 2028. As he has done so many times before, Fisher will first try to imply that a later timeline was the plan all along — but with Sacramento unsustainably molten, I suspect that MLB’s patience may finally be exhausted. If past is any prediction, Fisher will blame both Sacramento and Las Vegas (or perhaps an Oakland conspiracy?), decry how hard all of this has been on him and his family, and begin talk of a new location — or (more likely) a new city.

On the one hand, this will be the moment that Salt Lake City has been waiting for, but on the other, I suspect that the chorus of warnings from Oakland about John Fisher will carry to Utah — especially when joined by new voices from Sacramento and Las Vegas. MLB, at long last, will force the sale. This is still in the future, of course, but it’s now foreseeable: what John Fisher broke ground on on Monday is — I believe — the end game of his ownership. I just want to be there when the new ownership turns the replies back on!
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Others might have asked this, but are they going to play mostly night games at home? Because Las Vegas is extremely hot in the summer. Even asking millionaire ball players to stand in the outfield in the middle of the afternoon in the middle of July is pretty brutal.

But Arizona has a team too and no players have died there….
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Following a ceremonial groundbreaking event Monday for the Athletics’ $1.75 billion baseball stadium on the Strip, team owner John Fisher said he hopes a plan from Bally’s Corp. for a casino-resort development surrounding the 33,000-fan capacity ballpark will soon become clearer.

Bally’s released plans last October after the Tropicana resort that formerly occupied the site was imploded, showing a multiphased resort surrounding the ballpark. But the casino operator is involved with projects in the U.S. and abroad and has not provided new details about Las Vegas.

The ideal scenario, Fisher said, would be having the resort’s initial phase under construction at the same time the A’s stadium begins to take shape on the southeast corner of the Strip and Tropicana Avenue ahead of its planned April 2028 opening.

“I think those conversations need to sort of happen with them. What they've shown us is exciting,” said Fisher, following the event during which the team welcomed more than 500 guests to an air-conditioned, baseball-themed temporary space at the heart of what will become the ballpark.

A sign outside a window behind the speaker’s podium was designated as the future location of home plate. The A’s are using 9 acres of the 35-acre site that formerly housed the Tropicana Las Vegas for the stadium.

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States are using taxpayer money to pay for stadiums for sports teams worth billions.
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Once known as the Oakland Athletics (or the Oakland A's), this franchise is the Miami Marlins' fire sale tendencies and the Cleveland Browns' generational inept ownership in one. Given the toxicity that has gone on since this franchise was in Kansas City...I'm not convinced anyone will tell me there is a more toxic organization than this one.

~sigh~, this should be one of the premier franchises in Major League Baseball... 9 World Series titles and amongst the most Hall of Famers... and known as one of the worst organizations in sports...

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  • 0:00 Wine and Liquor Tasting
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In this explosive breakdown, Damon Amendolara dissects The Guardian's bombshell article, "Debacle in the Desert", which tears apart the Oakland A’s narrative about their move to Las Vegas. D.A. — one of the most vocal critics of owner John Fisher and a longtime champion of A’s fans — ranks the Top 3 most devastating quotes from the piece, including a Vegas insider calling Fisher “a dead man walking.”

Amendolara explains why the idea that the A’s have full financing for a Vegas stadium is misleading at best — and why this relocation feels more like a con than a strategy. If you’ve been told the Vegas ballpark is a done deal… watch this first.

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The Athletics have become a circus and John Fisher is a clown.
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Oakland Athletics Owner John Fisher is moving his team to Las Vegas, a move that has gotten a lukewarm reception from the city; has fielded the worst team in baseball for the past two years, causing fan apathy; and has sent players who he doesn't like down to the minors. Should MLB force him to sell?






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Las Vegas went from having zero major league teams to becoming a sports hotspot—almost overnight. How did it happen so fast, and will it last?
  • 0:00 Intro
  • 1:15 The Problem with Las Vegas
  • 2:45 Turning of the Tides
  • 5:43 Flocking to the Strip
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The Death of Oakland Baseball: A History of A’s Ownership was created by myself with the intention of telling the real story of the A’s stadium and relocation saga and providing relevant context by telling the full story of the A’s ownership history. A’s fans and the City of Oakland receive far too much blame when this topic is being discussed, when in reality, everything that has happened is 100% on A’s ownership. I know this video is rather lengthy, and I am certainly not a professional writer, narrator, or video producer, but my hope is that this video can inform everyone of the true story, along with aiding in dispelling common misconceptions, correcting the narrative, and shining light on the dreadful ownership A’s fans and the City of Oakland have been subjected to and have had to endure.

This video is divided into 9 parts, and these parts are as follows:
•Part 1: A’s Ownership From 1901 to 1995 1:08
•Part 2: The Schott and Hofmann Years (1995-2005) 11:29
•Part 3: Lew Wolff and John Fisher (2005-2016) 23:36
•Part 4: Who is John Fisher? 38:26
•Part 5: John Fisher and Dave Kaval (2016-Present) 47:55
•Part 6: The Fight Back 2:11:35
•Part 7: Why This Happened 2:44:52
•Part 8: What Lies Ahead 2:59:01
•Part 9: Correcting the Narrative 3:06:20
The Athletics franchise is the poster child for having contending teams, then tearing down, under ALL ownership groups. Let's go back to the beginning, shall we?
~1901-14: more or less contenders
~1915-27: teardown/mediocrity
~1928-32: contenders, including 3 consecutive WS appearances
~1933-45: teardown/mediocrity
~1946-48: mediocre but actually above .500 (barely)
~1949-54: (final years in Philadelphia) losing on the field & chaos in ownership as Connie Mack stepped down as manager but stubbornly continued as owner in the throes of dementia
~1955-67: the Kansas City years...being basically a farm team for the Yankees until Charlie Finley took over in 1960. Griped about the stadium and threatened to move to Louisville and Oakland. KC finally ponied up for a stadium, but too late to prevent the move to Oakland.
~1968-76: Major contenders. 5 consecutive AL West titles and 3 consecutive WS titles
~1977-79: absolute train wreck coinciding with free agency after 1976 season.
~1980-82: Billy Ball & Rickey Henderson.
~1983-mid 86: mediocre
~mid 1986-95: Tony LaRussa years. 3 consecutive division titles & WS appearances, winning in 1989
~1996-2015: Moneyball. Mostly contenders, playoffs a few times
~2016-21: up and down with some good play
~2022- train wreck and ownership chaos, currently in Sacramento while awaiting a new home in Las Vegas.
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"And while the A's previously played in Philadelphia and Kansas City, Oakland has been home for the greatest era in the franchise's more than 123-year history."

5 championships while in Philly, 4 in Oakland
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With much present-day drama surrounding the Athletics, it's time that the masses realize something: it has always been like this. The A's are stuck in a cycle of poor ownership, keeping the team from success and their fans from happiness.
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  • KANSAS CITY 03:26
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