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cfr1970

04-29-2020, 04:43 PM

“Fast Food”

AH! I just noticed in the opening credits that the Street Urchin Andy is a lefty too! So that makes 2 lefties on the show. I have to watch Nancy M., Kim and Mindy like a hawk when they get pens in their hands now to see how many more there are. (It's only 2 now because it seems Lisa is actually a righty and was just holding the pen in her left hand in the past episode. Because today she wrote her order down with her right hand at the Taco Bell or whatever it was called. Boo...I wanted her to be a lefty like me.) :(

I remember this one from it’s original airing and also from last year's Decades Marathon. I seem to have caught some of season 8 in that marathon but I know I shut it off before season 9 episodes played because it was midnight by then and I had to go to sleep. So I know definitely that season 9 will be all brand new to me! :crazy:

This is another good episode. Season 8 is just rolling right along (with Enrico being the one teeny slump)

Blair needs to take a job for a college credit, so of course it’s a perfect coincidence that the temp job Natalie is working at this week just happens to be one of the jobs on the list for her course! Amazing how things in sitcom land align perfectly like that isn’t it?

So Blair asks Nat for the job and she says sure, you can start tomorrow and before exiting shoots to her that she’ll put her nose to the grindstone…...again. LOL...MEOW! HISS! :cat:

The side story has Beverly Ann hooking up with Orson Bean who’s Tootie’s professor Oliver, and they hit it off nicely together. I don’t know if we ever see him again, but at the end of the episode she’s getting ready to see “Ollie” again and looks smitten with him. I’m sure he disappears and never heard from again though. Sad, because I like Orson.

Back at the Taco Stand, which is a fast food place, yet people are sitting down and waiting to get waited on?! What?! It makes no sense that no one orders at the counter like the first customer did. Weird! This ain't Chi Chi's people!

Of course Blair can’t handle all those angry customers and gets into a little battle with an old lady who screams at her that “I’ve been coming here since before you were blond!” Ha! I love that line and filed it away in my head to use it later on. :lol:

Of course Beverly Ann and Orson Bean drop by for some tacos after their movie date and Tootie & Jo just happen to have a taco craving as well---but it's more likely to watch Blair make a fool of herself than actual hunger with them. :lol:

More hilarity ensues and Blair eventually gets fired along with Natalie but Blair fixes things the next morning with her boss and all is well again. It’s a really good episode where we see the whole group together for much of the show.

And we get confirmation of Blair's age being 22 here so I guess this is her last year in college?

Andy the Street Urchin is once again just lounging around that house like it’s his home with still zero explanation of his constant presence….when is it going to be acknowledged that this kid off the street is suddenly living with 5 grown women?! It’s getting a little awkward now especially now that he's growing bigger. :eek:

“Where’s Poppa?”

I don’t think Blair ever called her Dad “Poppa” so the episode title for this one is kind of weird. Shouldn’t it be “Where’s Daddy?”

Jo is wearing the biggest sweater i’ve ever seen on her. It looks like it’s a 10XXX and you could fit 14 Oprahs inside it. It’s the most hideous thing i’ve ever seen Nancy M in. Just scroll down to the pic and take a look at this monstrosity! It’s ginormous! I can’t believe Jo would be out shopping, see this on the rack and say “Yeah, that’s so me! Gimme one in every color!”

I mean, can you really imagine her wearing this elephant mumu while riding her motorcycle?! I can’t lol. Really, I just can’t! I’m all for femming up Jo, but not like this. I’d rather see the army clothes and ponytail come back over these ugly outfits.

Speaking of ponytails, she actually had one in this one and it really looked good on her. But her choice of clothes leave much to be desired. You know Blair had to be snickering to herself whenever Jo got dressed in the morning. :lol:

It was an ok episode. Blair’s daddy is busted for insider trading but we learn later on that things aren’t always what they seem (maybe I should just say what it is and put the word “spoiler” in bold letters on either side of the sentence to really hide it from everyone LOL….Hi Retro! I'm talking to you! :wave:)

Blair is upset with Daddy for most of the show until Jo has a heart to heart with her and changes Blairs mind to forgive Daddy, but then we learn the what the spoiler is and all is dandy again and there’s not much for Blair to forgive anyway.

Beverly Ann is still looking nervous trying to get close to the girls. When she was talking to Blair’s father and Blair walked in, you could see her nervousness at wanting to say the right things to her. I think it’s mostly because she knows she puts her foot in her mouth a lot too lol.

It’s nice seeing these subtle mannerisms on Beverly and i’m sure it’s Cloris’s great acting that contributes to it. I can see without her saying a line that the character is still treading lightly around the girls, knowing these are still her sister’s girls and not hers….though she wants them to be and feels like they are from all the letters from Mrs. G over the years…..But she knows that’s only one sided and no matter how close SHE may feel to those girls….they aren't there with her yet.

I just see these subtle mannerisms coming through in Beverly’s movements, looks and mannerisms around the girls and it’s a nice extra layer of the character so i’m really enjoying both Beverly and Cloris here a lot.

I guess as a teen I didn’t catch these things, and of course I hated her, but now as an adult I see them and my perception is totally different.

Natalie’s hair though….please say she gets rid of that hideous red before the series is finished. It’s just NOT Natalie. The other girls look great….I guess it’s just Natalie’s turn to have a bad hair season.

And of course Jo with her awful fashion sense. But otherwise, this is a nice little episode where we learn Blair's granddaddy is alive and 87, so who the hell was that racist one who’s dead and was going to be on the Eastland Library a few seasons ago?! Just how many granddaddy’s does this girl have?! Or was it her great grandaddy?! :eek:

Here's Jo in her elephant muumuu ----:rofl:

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 05:02 PM

FOL-FAN-ITA

04-29-2020, 05:08 PM

“Fast Food”

Here's Jo in her elephant muumuu ----:rofl:

Mrs. Roper, is that you?:lol::lol:

FOL-FAN-ITA

04-29-2020, 05:10 PM

Ha ha ha great one cfr1970!

And speaking of PODS: today i watched the episodes 'COME BACK TO THE TRUCK STOP NATALIE GREEN' and
'3, 2 , 1' and the REAL MRS G has definitely been taking down the basement and been replaced by POD on those both episodes!!!
All she kept saying was "Anymore cookies anyone?"
She even called TOOTIE by the wrong name: NATALIE ha ha! (she can't even tell her girls apart!):lol::lol::lol:. DEFINITELY A POD!

I have to say i found the story NAT wrote very funny: her acting like Angela Lansbury on 'Murder she wrote' was fantastic!
And of course she had to have BLAIR as the evil one lol! (so what else is new?).
I liked how everyone was a suspect in the end: JO the so called waitress was a cop with interest in money, BLAIR was the spoiled heiress, TOOTIE a spy, and GEORGE a version of 'An officer and a gentleman' (and DON JOHNSON from 'Miami Vice' on the episode '3, 2 , 1' hee hee!):happyface:happyface:happyface

You do realize though, that the episode 'Come back to the truck stop Natalie Green' is a vague copy of the
TWILIGHT ZONE!!! (there was a similar story going on in a dinner, where a martian causes a bad case of weather and ends up having everyone on the bus killed by an accident). I cannot remember the name of the episode, but it's DEFINITELY a sort of 'remake' from TWILIGHT ZONE....:D:D:D

:ufo::ufo::ufo:

Except for Pod Mrs. G, it's a really good episode. I like the scene with Charo :lol:

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 05:17 PM

“Fast Food”

AH! I just noticed in the opening credits that the Street Urchin Andy is a lefty too! So that makes 2 lefties on the show. I have to watch Nancy M., Kim and Mindy like a hawk when they get pens in their hands now to see how many more there are. (It's only 2 now because it seems Lisa is actually a righty and was just holding the pen in her left hand in the past episode. Because today she wrote her order down with her right hand at the Taco Bell or whatever it was called. Boo...I wanted her to be a lefty like me.)

I remember this one from it’s original airing and also from last year's Decades Marathon. I seem to have caught some of season 8 in that marathon but I know I shut it off before season 9 episodes played because it was midnight by then and I had to go to sleep. So I know definitely that season 9 will be all brand new to me!

This is another good episode. Season 8 is just rolling right along (with Enrico being the one teeny slump)

Blair needs to take a job for a college credit, so of course it’s a perfect coincidence that the temp job Natalie is working at this week just happens to be one of the jobs on the list for her course! Amazing how things in sitcom land align perfectly like that isn’t it?

So Blair asks Nat for the job and she says sure, you can start tomorrow and before exiting shoots to her that she’ll put her nose to the grindstone…...again. LOL...MEOW! HISS! :cat:

The side story has Beverly Ann hooking up with Orson Bean who’s Tootie’s professor Oliver, and they hit it off nicely together. I don’t know if we ever see him again, but at the end of the episode she’s getting ready to see “Ollie” again and looks smitten with him. I’m sure he disappears and never heard from again though. Sad, because I like Orson.

Back at the Taco Stand, which is a fast food place, yet people are sitting down and waiting to get waited on?! What?! It makes no sense that no one orders at the counter like the first customer did. Weird! This ain't Chi Chi's people!

Of course Blair can’t handle all those angry customers and gets into a little battle with an old lady who screams at her that “I’ve been coming here since before you were blond!” Ha! I love that line and filed it away in my head to use it later

Of course Beverly Ann and Orson Bean drop by for some tacos after their movie date and Tootie & Jo just happen to have a taco craving as well---but it's more likely to watch Blair make a fool of herself than actual hunger with them.

More hilarity ensues and Blair eventually gets fired along with Natalie but Blair fixes things the next morning with her boss and all is well again. It’s a really good episode where we see the whole group together for much of the show.

And we get confirmation of Blair's age being 22 here so I guess this is her last year in college?

Andy the Street Urchin is once again just lounging around that house like it’s his home with still zero explanation of his constant presence….when is it going to be acknowledged that this kid off the street is suddenly living with 5 grown women?! It’s getting a little awkward now especially now that he's growing bigger.

“Where’s Poppa?”

I don’t think Blair ever called her Dad “Poppa” so the episode title for this one is kind of weird. Shouldn’t it be “Where’s Daddy?”

Jo is wearing the biggest sweater i’ve ever seen on her. It looks like it’s a 10XXX and you could fit 14 Oprahs inside it. It’s the most hideous thing i’ve ever seen Nancy M in. Just scroll down to the pic and take a look at this monstrosity! It’s ginormous! I can’t believe Jo would be out shopping, see this on the rack and say “Yeah, that’s so me! Gimme one in every color!”

I mean, can you really imagine her wearing this elephant mumu while riding her motorcycle?! I can’t lol. Really, I just can’t! I’m all for femming up Jo, but not like this. I’d rather see the army clothes and ponytail come back over these ugly outfits.

Speaking of ponytails, she actually had one in this one and it really looked good on her. But her choice of clothes leave much to be desired. You know Blair had to be snickering to herself whenever Jo got dressed in the morning.

It was an ok episode. Blair’s daddy is busted for insider trading but we learn later on that things aren’t always what they seem (maybe I should just say what it is and put the word “spoiler” in bold letters on either side of the sentence to really hide it from everyone LOL….Hi Retro! I'm talking to you!

Blair is upset with Daddy for most of the show until Jo has a heart to heart with her and changes Blairs mind to forgive Daddy, but then we learn the what the spoiler is and all is dandy again and there’s not much for Blair to forgive anyway.

Beverly Ann is still looking nervous trying to get close to the girls. When she was talking to Blair’s father and Blair walked in, you could see her nervousness at wanting to say the right things to her. I think it’s mostly because she knows she puts her foot in her mouth a lot too lol.

It’s nice seeing these subtle mannerisms on Beverly and i’m sure it’s Cloris’s great acting that contributes to it. I can see without her saying a line that the character is still treading lightly around the girls, knowing these are still her sister’s girls and not hers….though she wants them to be and feels like they are from all the letters from Mrs. G over the years…..But she knows that’s only one sided and no matter how close SHE may feel to those girls….they aren't there with her yet.

I just see these subtle mannerisms coming through in Beverly’s movements, looks and mannerisms around the girls and it’s a nice extra layer of the character so i’m really enjoying both Beverly and Cloris here a lot.

I guess as a teen I didn’t catch these things, and of course I hated her, but now as an adult I see them and my perception is totally different.

Natalie’s hair though….please say she gets rid of that hideous red before the series is finished. It’s just NOT Natalie. The other girls look great….I guess it’s just Natalie’s turn to have a bad hair season.

And of course Jo with her awful fashion sense. But otherwise, this is a nice little episode where we learn Blair's granddaddy is alive and 87, so who the hell was that racist one who’s dead and was going to be on the Eastland Library a few seasons ago?! Just how many granddaddy’s does this girl have?! Or was it her great grandaddy?!

Here's Jo in her elephant muumuu ----:rofl:

Ha ha ha great one cfr1970!

And speaking of PODS: today i watched the episodes 'COME BACK TO THE TRUCK STOP NATALIE GREEN' and
'3, 2 , 1' and the REAL MRS G has definitely been taking down the basement and been replaced by POD on those both episodes!!!
All she kept saying was "Anymore cookies anyone?"
She even called TOOTIE by the wrong name: NATALIE ha ha! (she can't even tell her girls apart!). DEFINITELY A POD!

I have to say i found the story NAT wrote very funny: her acting like Angela Lansbury on 'Murder she wrote' was fantastic!
And of course she had to have BLAIR as the evil one lol! (so what else is new?).
I liked how everyone was a suspect in the end: JO the so called waitress was a cop with interest in money, BLAIR was the spoiled heiress, TOOTIE a spy, and GEORGE a version of 'An officer and a gentleman' (and DON JOHNSON from 'Miami Vice' on the episode '3, 2 , 1' hee hee!)

You do realize though, that the episode 'Come back to the truck stop Natalie Green' is a vague copy of the
TWILIGHT ZONE!!! (there was a similar story going on in a dinner, where a martian causes a bad case of weather and ends up having everyone on the bus killed by an accident). I cannot remember the name of the episode, but it's DEFINITELY a sort of 'remake' from TWILIGHT ZONE....

Oops! I meant to send this one on the page where you had all those PODS signs by the window, but it landed somewhere else! (talk about TWILIGHT ZONE lol!):confused::confused::confused:

:ufo::ufo::ufo:

cfr1970

04-29-2020, 05:36 PM

Ha ha ha great one cfr1970!

And speaking of PODS: today i watched the episodes 'COME BACK TO THE TRUCK STOP NATALIE GREEN' and
'3, 2 , 1' and the REAL MRS G has definitely been taking down the basement and been replaced by POD on those both episodes!!!
All she kept saying was "Anymore cookies anyone?"
She even called TOOTIE by the wrong name: NATALIE ha ha! (she can't even tell her girls apart!):lol::lol::lol:. DEFINITELY A POD!

I have to say i found the story NAT wrote very funny: her acting like Angela Lansbury on 'Murder she wrote' was fantastic!
And of course she had to have BLAIR as the evil one lol! (so what else is new?).
I liked how everyone was a suspect in the end: JO the so called waitress was a cop with interest in money, BLAIR was the spoiled heiress, TOOTIE a spy, and GEORGE a version of 'An officer and a gentleman' (and DON JOHNSON from 'Miami Vice' on the episode '3, 2 , 1' hee hee!):happyface:happyface:happyface

You do realize though, that the episode 'Come back to the truck stop Natalie Green' is a vague copy of the
TWILIGHT ZONE!!! (there was a similar story going on in a dinner, where a martian causes a bad case of weather and ends up having everyone on the bus killed by an accident). I cannot remember the name of the episode, but it's DEFINITELY a sort of 'remake' from TWILIGHT ZONE....:D:D:D

:ufo::ufo::ufo:

Now I want to see that Twilight Zone episode. I think there's a big TW fan here who will probably know the episode it was. I don't know who the fan was....80's? Was it you? :eek:

I didn't notice Mrs. G called Tootie Natalie! I'll look for it next time I watch it again. Mrs's G's POD wires must've gotten crossed in the fuse box under her blouse. :lol:

I liked that episode and yeah, why is it always Blair being evil and bad in these fantasy/dreams?! Can't we have Tootie be the one to be the mean one for a change? After all, she's the one we'd least expect to even hurt a fly.

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 06:03 PM

Now I want to see that Twilight Zone episode. I think there's a big TW fan here who will probably know the episode it was. I don't know who the fan was....80's? Was it you? :eek:

I didn't notice Mrs. G called Tootie Natalie! I'll look for it next time I watch it again. Mrs's G's POD wires must've gotten crossed in the fuse box under her blouse. :lol:

I liked that episode and yeah, why is it always Blair being evil and bad in these fantasy/dreams?! Can't we have Tootie be the one to be the mean one for a change? After all, she's the one we'd least expect to even hurt a fly.

And do you know what pisses me off most: how all those sites say NASTY things about BLAIR and NICE ones about JO! (like she was some kind of hero)!:mad::mad::mad:

On the other hand, maybe it's not such a bad thing: evil characters (not that BLAIR is cos she has a 'heart of gold') or spoiled ones tend to gain the major popularity and will never be anything else but spectacular! (gosh now i'm really sounding like BLAIR hee hee!).
Whereas the nice/ sweet ones will ALWAYS remain BORING!!!!

So that's a plus for the 'WARNER CLAN' (as JO would say hee hee!):wave::wave::wave:

:meangya::meangya::meangya:

PS: i'm the one who's a big TWILIGHT ZONE fan (but maybe 80s is?)

'80sSitcoms

04-29-2020, 06:23 PM

“Fast Food”

The side story has Beverly Ann hooking up with Orson Bean who’s Tootie’s professor Oliver, and they hit it off nicely together. I don’t know if we ever see him again, but at the end of the episode she’s getting ready to see “Ollie” again and looks smitten with him. I’m sure he disappears and never heard from again though. Sad, because I like Orson.

I like Professor Thompson too! :nod:

Back at the Taco Stand, which is a fast food place, yet people are sitting down and waiting to get waited on?! What?! It makes no sense that no one orders at the counter like the first customer did. Weird! This ain't Chi Chi's people!

Haha, great point! :rofl:

Also:

"I'm making a taco. :)"

“Where’s Poppa?”

I don’t think Blair ever called her Dad “Poppa” so the episode title for this one is kind of weird. Shouldn’t it be “Where’s Daddy?”

Yeah, that is weird.

Jo is wearing the biggest sweater i’ve ever seen on her. It looks like it’s a 10XXX and you could fit 14 Oprahs inside it. It’s the most hideous thing i’ve ever seen Nancy M in.

:rofl:

I guess it was some sort of "dress"? :confused:

(maybe I should just say what it is and put the word “spoiler” in bold letters on either side of the sentence to really hide it from everyone LOL….Hi Retro! I'm talking to you! :wave:)

:lol:

But cfr! You've been reviewing these episodes for WEEKS! Reacting to the details! Why are you just now worried about spoiling things?? :confused: You're not, we've all seen these episodes and we're coming here to read what YOU think of them! Now you're censoring yourself! :mad: Don't you hold back on us! :nonono:

;)

Beverly Ann is still looking nervous trying to get close to the girls. When she was talking to Blair’s father and Blair walked in, you could see her nervousness at wanting to say the right things to her. I think it’s mostly because she knows she puts her foot in her mouth a lot too lol.

It’s nice seeing these subtle mannerisms on Beverly and i’m sure it’s Cloris’s great acting that contributes to it. I can see without her saying a line that the character is still treading lightly around the girls, knowing these are still her sister’s girls and not hers.

Yes. If you' ll notice, she encourages Blair visually not once, but twice when she goes to leave Blair and her father alone. It's just tough to see the second time because she's mostly behind Mr. Warner when she does it.

I guess as a teen I didn’t catch these things, and of course I hated her, but now as an adult I see them and my perception is totally different.

:lol: Yay! ::)

But otherwise, this is a nice little episode where we learn Blair's granddaddy is alive and 87, so who the hell was that racist one who’s dead and was going to be on the Eastland Library a few seasons ago?! Just how many granddaddy’s does this girl have?! Or was it her great grandaddy?! :eek:

Lol, well her KKK granddaddy was Judge Carlton Blair, we assume her maternal grandfather.

Now I want to see that Twilight Zone episode. I think there's a big TW fan here who will probably know the episode it was. I don't know who the fan was....80's? Was it you?

Sit tight. DON'T PEEK. It's coming.

cfr1970

04-29-2020, 06:47 PM

I like Professor Thompson too! :nod:

Do we ever see him again?

Also:

"I'm making a taco. :)"

We've seen Blair helping out in the cafeteria at Eastland and also making the tuna sandwiches with Dina, so her aversion to making the food at Taco Taco or whatever it was called was weird.

She's probably even mopped the cafeteria floor back at Eastland too, so her character would more than likely jump right into this and have fun with it imo rather than go all "Bootsie" mode with Natalie who she doesn't need to keep up facades with. This is where the writers continue being inconsistent with her character.

I guess it was some sort of "dress"? :confused:

It looked like a cross between a sweater and a dress. Like something you'd lounge around in at home before bed, not walking outside in the world in. And riding a Harley in that and a helmet would look ridiculous! :lol:

But cfr! You've been reviewing these episodes for WEEKS! Reacting to the details! Why are you just now worried about spoiling things?? :confused: You're not, we've all seen these episodes and we're coming here to read what YOU think of them! Now you're censoring yourself! :mad: Don't you hold back on us! :nonono:

You make a good point. Everyone reading these have already seen the episodes. I'm just being conscious of perhaps anyone who hasn't seen them, but then why would they be reading this in the first place.

So no more holding back! It was granddaddy who did the insider trading and not Blair's Dad who was only taking the fall for the frail 87 year old! If I spoiled it for you, TOO BAD! :lol:

Yeah....that felt much better! Thanks! :wave:

Yes. If you' ll notice, she encourages Blair visually not once, but twice when she goes to leave Blair and her father alone. It's just tough to see the second time because she's mostly behind Mr. Warner when she does it.

Yes! I did notice and it's small touches like that that gives Beverly extra layers to the character. What I got from that part was she really wants to try hard to do and say the right thing and help, but she's also very self conscious of herself and overstepping boundaries.

Cloris is really playing the part wonderfully and I dare even say I like her as much as Mrs. G. If anything I think Beverly is showing a depth that we never saw in Mrs. G. Not a slam on Charlotte, but Cloris is really that good.

I actually look forward to her scenes and knowing how she's shoved in the background in season 9 makes me sad because she's an interesting character.

BTW do we ever see the ex she so bitterly mentions all the time? i hope so!

'80sSitcoms

04-29-2020, 06:58 PM

Do we ever see him again?

Since you flat-out asked, lol, yes, we do!---BUT---not enough.

We've seen Blair helping out in the cafeteria at Eastland and also making the tuna sandwiches with Dina, so her aversion to making the food at Taco Taco or whatever it was called was weird.

True, it's just cute/funny the way she delivers that line, lol.

She's probably even mopped the cafeteria floor back at Eastland too, so her character would more than likely jump right into this and have fun with it imo rather than go all "Bootsie" mode with Natalie who she doesn't need to keep up facades with. This is where the writers continue being inconsistent with her character.

Yeah, if they wanted to show a real difference between the taco place and Mrs. Garrett's kitchens at Eastland and EE, they should have had the taco place look "unclean" and not up to health codes. But then, Natalie wouldn't be working there in the first place if it were like that (and we learn in this episode Natalie shouldn't wear her hair in that side braid thing, lol).

It looked like a cross between a sweater and a dress. Like something you'd lounge around in at home before bed, not walking outside in the world in. And riding a Harley in that and a helmet would look ridiculous! :lol:

Yes! :lol: I'll have to share a photo from "Who's the Boss?" sometime--there is this one outfit in particular Angela wears that I just find a scream! :rofl:

You make a good point. Everyone reading these have already seen the episodes. I'm just being conscious of perhaps anyone who hasn't seen them, but then why would they be reading this in the first place.

:yeahthat

;)

So no more holding back!

Yay! :clap: Uncencsored full-on cfr reviews! :woohoo:

It was granddaddy who did the insider trading and not Blair's Dad who was only taking the fall for the frail 87 year old! If I spoiled it for you, TOO BAD! :lol:

:rofl:

Yes, and that was very nice to see. This episode, like many this season, really hearkens back to the Eastland days.

Yeah....that felt much better! Thanks! :wave:

Lol, you're welcome! I don't like to be "cheated" when I come to read cfr reviews!! :mad: :nonono:

:lol:

Cloris is really playing the part wonderfully and I dare even say I like her as much as Mrs. G. If anything I think Beverly is showing a depth that we never saw in Mrs. G. Not a slam on Charlotte, but Cloris is really that good.

I really enjoyed her so much in my recent season 8 re-watching myself!

BTW do we ever see the ex she so bitterly mentions all the time? i hope so!

Again, since you flat-out asked, lol, yes. :nod:

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 07:03 PM

Do we ever see him again?

We've seen Blair helping out in the cafeteria at Eastland and also making the tuna sandwiches with Dina, so her aversion to making the food at Taco Taco or whatever it was called was weird.

She's probably even mopped the cafeteria floor back at Eastland too, so her character would more than likely jump right into this and have fun with it imo rather than go all "Bootsie" mode with Natalie who she doesn't need to keep up facades with. This is where the writers continue being inconsistent with her character.

It looked like a cross between a sweater and a dress. Like something you'd lounge around in at home before bed, not walking outside in the world in. And riding a Harley in that and a helmet would look ridiculous! :lol:

You make a good point. Everyone reading these have already seen the episodes. I'm just being conscious of perhaps anyone who hasn't seen them, but then why would they be reading this in the first place.

So no more holding back! It was granddaddy who did the insider trading and not Blair's Dad who was only taking the fall for the frail 87 year old! If I spoiled it for you, TOO BAD! :lol:

Yeah....that felt much better! Thanks! :wave:

Yes! I did notice and it's small touches like that that gives Beverly extra layers to the character. What I got from that part was she really wants to try hard to do and say the right thing and help, but she's also very self conscious of herself and overstepping boundaries.

Cloris is really playing the part wonderfully and I dare even say I like her as much as Mrs. G. If anything I think Beverly is showing a depth that we never saw in Mrs. G. Not a slam on Charlotte, but Cloris is really that good.

I actually look forward to her scenes and knowing how she's shoved in the background in season 9 makes me sad because she's an interesting character.

BTW do we ever see the ex she so bitterly mentions all the time? i hope so!

BEVERLY ANN more DEPTH than MRS G??? Don't you think you're going a bit too far????!!!!
I agree you might like BEVERLY ANN now, but to be honest she is a rather 'nervous' person who is trying too hard to be pals with the girls, and that is way not NATURAL at all to me lol!:nonono::nonono::nonono:

On the other hand, i HATE the writers very much for turning BLAIR into a POD most of the time (they never did that with her on the early episodes): why don't they do it with the other 3 girls then? What all this hate with the WARNER CLAN????:mad::mad::mad:

:bash::bash::bash:

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04-29-2020, 07:27 PM

Mrs. Roper, is that you?:lol::lol:

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Lorimar Television

04-29-2020, 07:37 PM

cfr1970

04-29-2020, 07:38 PM

Since you flat-out asked, lol, yes, we do!---BUT---not enough.

Yay!! :clap:

Yeah, if they wanted to show a real difference between the taco place and Mrs. Garrett's kitchens at Eastland and EE, they should have had the taco place look "unclean" and not up to health codes. But then, Natalie wouldn't be working there in the first place if it were like that (and we learn in this episode Natalie shouldn't wear her hair in that side braid thing, lol).

Side braids apparently make her bitchy and I don't think i'd like working for her. She's obviously been sniffing too much hot tar fumes on her last job!
Calling her "Warner" and wielding her assistant manager power all over the place. Blair should've looked at her and said sweetly "I could buy and sell you." :lol:

Yes! :lol: I'll have to share a photo from "Who's the Boss?" sometime--there is this one outfit in particular Angela wears that I just find a scream! :rofl:

Post it when you find it! I swear I don't remember 80's outfits looking so hideous! I guess when you're living them you really don't take notice of the horrors all around you. :lol:

Again, since you flat-out asked, lol, yes. :nod:

Good! No spoilers please...but I think that will be a fun episode. :)

cfr1970

04-29-2020, 07:53 PM

BEVERLY ANN more DEPTH than MRS G??? Don't you think you're going a bit too far????!!!!
I agree you might like BEVERLY ANN now, but to be honest she is a rather 'nervous' person who is trying too hard to be pals with the girls, and that is way not NATURAL at all to me lol!:nonono::nonono::nonono:

On the other hand, i HATE the writers very much for turning BLAIR into a POD most of the time (they never did that with her on the early episodes): why don't they do it with the other 3 girls then? What all this hate with the WARNER CLAN????:mad::mad::mad:

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She is nervous and I always made fun of that, but if you watch beneath the surface, she's actually very self conscious around the girls because she knows they're her sisters girls and not hers.....but because of the letters over the years, she FEELS like these are her girls too but knows not to overstep her boundaries.

I think the character is showing a lot of depth and I suspect Cloris is playing her to show these non verbal nuances in Beverly. It could be i'm reading too deep into it, but I don't think so.

There was a scene where Jo was laying on the bed and Beverly was talking to her and you could see she wanted to instinctively sit on the bed to talk, but held back and stood instead.

She knows all about these girls from the letters and feels a bond with them already, but they know nothing much about her and can't reciprocate that bond yet.

There's lots of depth to that and I think we're seeing more here of Beverly than we ever did of Mrs. G. who seemed to always maintain a certain distance from them where Beverly seems to want to jump right in and hug them all to death lol. :lol:

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 07:58 PM

I’d say she has more depth than Mrs G did in s6-7.

Alright in season 7 MRS G was not herself i admit. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

In season 6 she still had depth though and a lot!
On the episode 'Working it out?', she was so concerned about BLAIR and there was a 'motherly chemistry' between the two of them.
And in the episode 'The interview show', she shows great depth and love toward her girls, when she speaks to the interviewer about how she raised the girls and watch them grow, and how emotional she'd be when they left (ironically she is the one who ended up leaving them) and towards the end, she even helps BLAIR put on her coat and touches her cheek lovingly.... If that's not DEPTH then i don't know!:talk::talk::talk:

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cfr1970

04-29-2020, 08:14 PM

Alright in season 7 MRS G was not herself i admit. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

In season 6 she still had depth though and a lot!
On the episode 'Working it out?', she was so concerned about BLAIR and there was a 'motherly chemistry' between the two of them.
And in the episode 'The interview show', she shows great depth and love toward her girls, when she speaks to the interviewer about how she raised the girls and watch them grow, and how emotional she'd be when they left (ironically she is the one who ended up leaving them) and towards the end, she even helps BLAIR put on her coat and touches her cheek lovingly.... If that's not DEPTH then i don't know!:talk::talk::talk:

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Vanentina I think you're misinterpreting what I meant. I never said Mrs. G NEVER showed any depth. Not at all! It's just in my observation that I think we're seeing a bit more of it from Beverly Ann than Mrs. G...at least as Lorimar said...from season 6&7....and maybe, possibly earlier because Mrs. G always seemed to maintain a professional distance from the girls at least until the Edna's Edible years when she was no longer their Eastland housemother.

And in comparison, Beverly Ann quickly wants to jump in head first and be a mother, friend, sister to them all at once, but is holding back.

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 08:27 PM

She is nervous and I always made fun of that, but if you watch beneath the surface, she's actually very self conscious around the girls because she knows they're her sisters girls and not hers.....but because of the letters over the years, she FEELS like these are her girls too but knows not to overstep her boundaries.

I think the character is showing a lot of depth and I suspect Cloris is playing her to show these non verbal nuances in Beverly. It could be i'm reading too deep into it, but I don't think so.

There was a scene where Jo was laying on the bed and Beverly was talking to her and you could see she wanted to instinctively sit on the bed to talk, but held back and stood instead.

She knows all about these girls from the letters and feels a bond with them already, but they know nothing much about her and can't reciprocate that bond yet.

There's lots of depth to that and I think we're seeing more here of Beverly than we ever did of Mrs. G. who seemed to always maintain a certain distance from them where Beverly seems to want to jump right in and hug them all to death lol. :lol:

I guess i need to watch season 8 again, but even if it were true, i still don't think BEVERLY ANN had more DEPTH and could love the girls more than MRS G did: after all, this show was about a nutritionist and her 4 girls, and if it gained success it was certainly not because of BEVERLY ANN (i suspect you're reading too much into it).
I'm sorry but i don't buy it and i don't see it that way: i wonder if Christopher does?
Are you here Christopher? Tell me you don't think BEVERLY ANN had more DEPTH than MRS G?

You seem to forget what a strong bond MRS G formed with those girls: i don't see how she was distant towards them, and to be honest, i never saw the girls interacting with BEVERLY ANN the way they did with MRS G (especially BLAIR and JO, who i suspect were her favourites) .

Only NATALIE seemed to seek for BEVERLY ANN's company and laugh with her: as for JO, she was rather distant, BLAIR had not much too say and didn't take her seriously and TOOTIE was not that warm toward her, either.

When i think about the relationship BLAIR and JO had with MRS G, i see warmth and admiration: a motherly chemistry they never had with BEVERLY ANN.

I know i need to watch season 8 again and see BEVERLY ANN, but even if what you said is true about her, that doesn't take away the depth MRS G had with her girls: i read between the lines, and to be frank i have never seen her DISTANT towards her girls, on the contrary she was always meddling and wanting to help them, she had so much warmth and was a firm authoritative figure, which is what made her the SURROGATE mother to them....

The only time MRS G was lacking DEPTH, was in season 7.

PS: please read this thread Christopher: i'd really like to know your opinion!

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valentina warner

04-29-2020, 08:57 PM

Vanentina I think you're misinterpreting what I meant. I never said Mrs. G NEVER showed any depth. Not at all! It's just in my observation that I think we're seeing a bit more of it from Beverly Ann than Mrs. G...at least as Lorimar said...from season 6&7....and maybe, possibly earlier because Mrs. G always seemed to maintain a professional distance from the girls at least until the Edna's Edible years when she was no longer their Eastland housemother.

And in comparison, Beverly Ann quickly wants to jump in head first and be a mother, friend, sister to them all at once, but is holding back.

I guess we see things differently: to me BEVERLY ANN always seemed 'nervous' and 'hyper', whereas MRS G was all about 'confidence' 'warmth'.

I see what you're saying about BEVERLY ANN wanting to jump and hug the girls, but that's because she is that kind of person who likes to touch people and is needy.
MRS G on the other hand was everything to the girls: a mother, a confidante and even though she wasn't HUGGING them all the time (as you say BEVERLY ANN wants to) you could read the love she has for them in her face. She was a very expressive person, and i suspect she restraint to hug them more than she could have, because those girls had parents and maybe she didn't want to step into too much?
Remember the episode 'The interview show': MRS G tells the interviewer that she had tried very much NOT to jump into the girls life, but had failed miserably. (i think you should watch the episode again).

I don't know, i guess maybe because i have watched season 1 to season 6 so often and have been observing the scenes and their conversations so much i see more than you?
In a way, it's almost as if you preferred the later seasons over the earlier, whereas for me, so far Season 7 is a DISASTER and has nothing to do with FOL: i'm not saying it's bad, but for me it's just a 'funny/comedy' (like any other you see nowadays) and not what the original was all about. I mean it's okay if you want to have a laugh, but to me, season 7 is NOT FOL at all....

PS: once i'm done with season 7, i really NEED to watch season 8 to read BEVERLY ANN between the lines: now i'm really intrigued.....:confused::confused::confused:

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cfr1970

04-29-2020, 09:19 PM

I guess we see things differently: to me BEVERLY ANN always seemed 'nervous' and 'hyper', whereas MRS G was all about 'confidence' 'warmth'.

I see what you're saying about BEVERLY ANN wanting to jump and hug the girls, but that's because she is that kind of person who likes to touch people and is needy.
MRS G on the other hand was everything to the girls: a mother, a confidante and even though she wasn't HUGGING them all the time (as you say BEVERLY ANN wants to) you could read the love she has for them in her face. She was a very expressive person, and i suspect she restraint to hug them more than she could have, because those girls had parents and maybe she didn't want to step into too much?
Remember the episode 'The interview show': MRS G tells the interviewer that she had tried very much NOT to jump into the girls life, but had failed miserably. (i think you should watch the episode again).

I don't know, i guess maybe because i have watched season 1 to season 6 so often and have been observing the scenes and their conversations so much i see more than you?
In a way, it's almost as if you preferred the later seasons over the earlier, whereas for me, so far Season 7 is a DISASTER and has nothing to do with FOL: i'm not saying it's bad, but for me it's just a 'funny/comedy' (like any other you see nowadays) and not what the original was all about. I mean it's okay if you want to have a laugh, but to me, season 7 is NOT FOL at all....

PS: once i'm done with season 7, i really NEED to watch season 8 to read BEVERLY ANN between the lines: now i'm really intrigued.....:confused::confused::confused:

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I agree that Mrs. G is everything you describe about her. I'm not at all saying or suggesting Beverly Ann is better...that's crazy! :crazy:

Mrs. G is definitely family and a mother figure to the girls and Beverly Ann could never take that away or replace it. There's just no way. I think she just wants to continue that relationship through her with Mrs. G gone and is finding ways to do it without offending them.

Mrs. G was warm with the girls for sure and she most definitely considered the girls her family by season 5 when she opened her shop and they all lived together as a family.

Before season 5 though, I think Mrs. G still tried to maintain a professional distance with the girls, because after all, they were her students and not family.

Now by the time Mrs. G left 3 years later, they became a family and I think we saw that the most during season 5. And here comes Beverly Ann who knows Mrs G left a huge hole and wants to find some way to fill it without them thinking she's trying to replace her.

I'd love to hear your opinion after you see season 8 again!! Maybe you'll soften a little to :beeutiful. :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-29-2020, 09:41 PM

BEVERLY ANN more DEPTH than MRS G??? Don't you think you're going a bit too far????!!!!

He didn't say more depth than Mrs. G, he said a depth that we never saw in Mrs. G.

'80sSitcoms

04-29-2020, 09:45 PM

And in comparison, Beverly Ann quickly wants to jump in head first and be a mother, friend, sister to them all at once, but is holding back.

Don't forget aunt and stepmother! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-29-2020, 09:46 PM

I'm sorry but i don't buy it and i don't see it that way: i wonder if Christopher does?
Are you here Christopher? Tell me you don't think BEVERLY ANN had more DEPTH than MRS G?

:lol: valentina I'm picturing you with the Ouija board from season 1! :lol:

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 09:54 PM

I agree that Mrs. G is everything you describe about her. I'm not at all saying or suggesting Beverly Ann is better...that's crazy! :crazy:

Mrs. G is definitely family and a mother figure to the girls and Beverly Ann could never take that away or replace it. There's just no way. I think she just wants to continue that relationship through her with Mrs. G gone and is finding ways to do it without offending them.

Mrs. G was warm with the girls for sure and she most definitely considered the girls her family by season 5 when she opened her shop and they all lived together as a family.

Before season 5 though, I think Mrs. G still tried to maintain a professional distance with the girls, because after all, they were her students and not family.

Now by the time Mrs. G left 3 years later, they became a family and I think we saw that the most during season 5. And here comes Beverly Ann who knows Mrs G left a huge hole and wants to find some way to fill it without them thinking she's trying to replace her.

I'd love to hear your opinion after you see season 8 again!! Maybe you'll soften a little to :beeutiful. :lol:

Sorry i didn't mean to be tough on BEVERLY ANN and i TOTALLY agree with you, but i'd say, the moment i felt MRS G bonded with the girls and became a family to them, was from season 4 until season 6 (i'v been watching it very closely, and those 3 seasons are now my favourites).

True: during season 2 and 3 (not the pilot or season 1 cos for me that was all about BLAIR and MRS G) MRS G was more 'professional' and acted a bit like a authoritative teacher to the girls.

Season 4: the girls start seeing MRS G as the MOTHER FIGURE and they bond even more with her. They are now a bit older and start caring for her needs.
We see that on the episode 'Under pressure': when MRS G is diagnosed with 'high blood pressure' the girls immediately become over protective towards her and you can see how much love they have towards her and look up to her.

Then on the episode 'Graduation', MRS G gives her two elder girls a gift (she has knitted a jumper for BLAIR and gives JO a rock) and has a moment with each of them, there is definitely a MOTHERLY moment between them: she hugs them for a very long time as if she never wanted to let them go, and you can see that during the 'Edna's Edibles' era, MRS G really see those girls as her children....

For me, 'Edna's Edibles' was really the best era, cos it was just about the girls living under the same roof as MRS G, and the gang really bonded then!

And of course when the fire happened all the MAGIC they had vanished....

And i'm sorry, but 'Over our heads' was never the same again, and MRS G became a stranger to her girls!!!

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Lorimar Television

04-29-2020, 10:09 PM

:lol: valentina I'm picturing you with the Ouija board from season 1! :lol:

Come in Harvey!

valentina warner

04-29-2020, 10:10 PM

:lol: valentina I'm picturing you with the Ouija board from season 1! :lol:

A OUIJA BOARD????:brent:brent:brent

PS: i love that episode from season 1 'The return of Mr Garret' lol!

RetroGuy2000

04-29-2020, 11:32 PM

Back at the Taco Stand, which is a fast food place, yet people are sitting down and waiting to get waited on?! What?! It makes no sense that no one orders at the counter like the first customer did. Weird! This ain't Chi Chi's people!

Oh, man. Why'd you have to go and mention Chi-Chi's? I really miss them...

And, yes, the fact that this is a taco stand, and yet people are sitting to be waited on makes ZERO sense.

Jo is wearing the biggest sweater i’ve ever seen on her. It looks like it’s a 10XXX and you could fit 14 Oprahs inside it. It’s the most hideous thing i’ve ever seen Nancy M in. Just scroll down to the pic and take a look at this monstrosity!

OMG, that sweater is ridiculous! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

That's... quite the look!

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 12:23 AM

Oh, man. Why'd you have to go and mention Chi-Chi's? I really miss them...

I was wondering if anyone would get the reference and so happy someone did! I loved Chi Chi's too and have so many fond memories of it from the early 90's. It's a shame they're no more. It really was a fun place and the food was so good!! 🌮

And, yes, the fact that this is a taco stand, and yet people are sitting to be waited on makes ZERO sense.

It really didn't because Natalie is showing Blair how to prepare the food, and she's expected to go on the floor and take orders as well?! What about when people like the guy ordered at the counter? It was absurd to expect Blair to handle all that...especially someone just doing it for a college credit too!

And while i'm at it, what kind of temp agency sends someone out to be an assistant manager for the day?! Were we to assume this was now a regular job for Nat and no more temping?!

, that sweater is ridiculous! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

That's... quite the look!

Even Dorothy Zbornak would've passed on wearing that thing. I lived through the 80's and honestly never knew anyone who wore something like that. :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 12:28 AM

I was wondering if anyone would get the reference and so happy someone did! I loved Chi Chi's too and have so many fond memories of it from the early 90's. It's a shame they're no more. It really was a fun place and the food was so good!! 🌮

Oh, I totally loved Chi-Chi's as a youngster---remember the commercial that came out when Chi-Chi's salsa was available at your local grocer's? The guy sitting at the table in Chi-Chi's secretly pumping Chi-Chi's salsa into the container hidden in his jacket?? :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 12:30 AM

Post it when you find it! I swear I don't remember 80's outfits looking so hideous! I guess when you're living them you really don't take notice of the horrors all around you. :lol:

Okay, just be patient 'cause it may be a while!

In the meantime, enjoy Angela's HUMONGOUS GLASSES from the show!! :lol:

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cfr1970

04-30-2020, 12:38 AM

Oh, I totally loved Chi-Chi's as a youngster---remember the commercial that came out when Chi-Chi's salsa was available at your local grocer's? The guy sitting at the table in Chi-Chi's secretly pumping Chi-Chi's salsa into the container hidden in his jacket?? :lol:

Is this the one? I never saw it before lol. It says it's from 1992 which was actually the time I frequented them a lot!

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cfr1970

04-30-2020, 12:42 AM

Okay, just be patient 'cause it may be a while!

In the meantime, enjoy Angela's HUMONGOUS GLASSES from the show!! :lol:

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I remember those owl glasses! They were big in the 70's too and I noticed many grownup women wearing them as a kid. God how hideous....why would anyone want to walk around with a couple of window panes over their face?! :lol:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 12:50 AM

I was wondering if anyone would get the reference and so happy someone did! I loved Chi Chi's too and have so many fond memories of it from the early 90's. It's a shame they're no more. It really was a fun place and the food was so good!! 🌮
It really was! I believe I had my 15th or 16th birthday party dinner at a Chi-Chi's in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, with my "Aunt Tootie". It was a really fun night.

It really didn't because Natalie is showing Blair how to prepare the food, and she's expected to go on the floor and take orders as well?! What about when people like the guy ordered at the counter? It was absurd to expect Blair to handle all that...especially someone just doing it for a college credit too!

And while i'm at it, what kind of temp agency sends someone out to be an assistant manager for the day?! Were we to assume this was now a regular job for Nat and no more temping?!

Yeah, there's no way you would make someone an assistant manager for a day. It takes a while to learn a job like that. And Blair being both the food prep person AND wait tables is insane.

Even Dorothy Zbornak would've passed on wearing that thing. I lived through the 80's and honestly never knew anyone who wore something like that. :lol:

Cut off about two feet of that thing and Dorothy would wear it. But even she would have to draw the line there.

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 12:54 AM

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It really was! I believe I had my 15th or 16th birthday party dinner at a Chi-Chi's in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, with my "Aunt Tootie". It was a really fun night.

Wait a minute, I forgot about an "Aunt Tootie"---is that what you really called her?? Was "Tootie" anything close to her real name?

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 12:55 AM

I remember those owl glasses! They were big in the 70's too and I noticed many grownup women wearing them as a kid. God how hideous....why would anyone want to walk around with a couple of window panes over their face?! :lol:

"owl glasses"! "window panes"!

:brent

Yeah, we have some '70s/'80s pictures with one of my aunts wearing BIG glasses, but I don't think quite that immense!

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 12:55 AM

I remember those owl glasses! They were big in the 70's too and I noticed many grownup women wearing them as a kid. God how hideous....why would anyone want to walk around with a couple of window panes over their face?! :lol:

In case your cheeks need to see more clearly. :lol:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 12:57 AM

Wait a minute, I forgot about an "Aunt Tootie"---is that what you really called her?? Was "Tootie" anything close to her real name?

We rarely called her Tootie, but her sister and older brother always called her that. Her real name was Peggy, and that's what we called her. She was so much fun!

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 12:59 AM

Is this the one? I never saw it before lol. It says it's from 1992 which was actually the time I frequented them a lot!

YES!

😆

Wow, and they even said "grocer's" in the ad---that was a coincidence that I said it in my post! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:00 AM

We rarely called her Tootie, but her sister and older brother always called her that. Her real name was Peggy, and that's what we called her. She was so much fun!

That is AMAZING---A "Facts" name?? I would have BEGGED to call her "Aunt Tootie"!! :lol:

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:01 AM

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[SIZE=2]It really was! I believe I had my 15th or 16th birthday party dinner at a Chi-Chi's in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, with my "Aunt Tootie". It was a really fun night.

You actually had an "Aunt Tootie"?! Ha! Did she love to gossip? :lol:

Cut off about two feet of that thing and Dorothy would wear it. But even she would have to draw the line there.

Remember Bea Arthur's height. I don't think you'd want to cut two feet off that before putting it on her because as soon as she bends over in that thing, the mystery is gone! So for the love of God, leave that two feet on for her! :lol::lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:02 AM

Okay, cfr, this is NOT the Angela dress I was referring to earlier, but it the most OUTRAGEOUS Angela ever looks in all 8 seasons!!!

:brent

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'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:04 AM

You actually had an "Aunt Tootie"?! Ha! Did she love to gossip? :lol:

Of course she did! She was a woman!

JUST KIDDING Molly!! :wave:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 01:05 AM

That is AMAZING---A "Facts" name?? I would have BEGGED to call her "Aunt Tootie"!! :lol:

:lol: Haha! To us, the name "Tootie" was reserved for a little African-American girl.

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 01:06 AM

You actually had an "Aunt Tootie"?! Ha! Did she love to gossip? :lol:

Actually, why yes, she did.

Remember Bea Arthur's height. I don't think you'd want to cut two feet off that before putting it on her because as soon as she bends over in that thing, the mystery is gone! So for the love of God, leave that two feet on for her! :lol::lol:

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cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:08 AM

"owl glasses"! "window panes"!

:brent

Yeah, we have some '70s/'80s pictures with one of my aunts wearing BIG glasses, but I don't think quite that immense!

They weren't even sexy, so I really don't get what the draw was about them with women. Actually men wore them too so it was't just women. Either way, it was ugly on both sexes.

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 01:09 AM

Okay, cfr, this is NOT the Angela dress I was referring to earlier, but it the most OUTRAGEOUS Angela ever looks in all 8 seasons!!!

:brent

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That is the '80s-ist '80s that ever '80s. Too bad she's not wearing the HUGE glasses so her cheeks can see how ridiculous she looks! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:14 AM

:lol: Haha! To us, the name "Tootie" was reserved for a little African-American girl.

But it would have been so much fun to get to say that name to someone "in life"! :lol:

I remember thinking how cool it was when I noticed we some "Another World" character names in our family. :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:15 AM

They weren't even sexy, so I really don't get what the draw was about them with women. Actually men wore them too so it was't just women. Either way, it was ugly on both sexes.

Ha! At least Molly would be proud that you're being equal! :lol:

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:16 AM

:lol: Haha! To us, the name "Tootie" was reserved for a little African-American girl.

You just reminded me of one of the funny jokes on the FOL that aired yesterday in "The Ratings Game"!!

Blair is talking about her friend Muffy and Tootie is all "What kind of person actually calls themselves "Muffy"?!"

And Jo is all "I don't know.....TOOTIE!"

And she shoots Jo an extended evil look that says "I'm gonna hurt you in your sleep tonight." :lol:

I can't remember which episode it was, but I believe they did that same exact joke in Edna's Edibles too only it wasn't Muffy, but another crazy name...Maybe Boots?---I'm sure Christopher would know off the top of his head!

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:20 AM

That is the '80s-ist '80s that ever '80s. Too bad she's not wearing the HUGE glasses so her cheeks can see how ridiculous she looks! :lol:

:brent

And the touches of those big triangle earrings and that huge triangular silver "space bracelet"! :rofl:

cfr may wonder why the hell THIS isn't the "dress that's a scream" that I meant, lol...but this look is in a different context. It wasn't just "an outfiit we think is nice in 1986", lol. She was really eager to land a BIG account with this big executive fashion designer man who focused on the youth market, so Angela made herself over in this style to really knock him dead and make him choose her to do the campaign.

Jonathan can't believe it, Mona says she looks something like "sensational", and Samantha says aghast, "Angela---you're hot!" :lol:

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cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:26 AM

Okay, cfr, this is NOT the Angela dress I was referring to earlier, but it the most OUTRAGEOUS Angela ever looks in all 8 seasons!!!

:brent

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I almost missed the picture since the page changed so fast lol. If you really want my opinion...I LIKE that dress!! Really....this to me is not bad at all, but Angela is WAY too old to be wearing it. On a teen girl in the 80's, this is so "totally awesome"! :heart:

Now i'm trying to picture Jo wearing it. :lol:

So there's another dress Angela wore that you think is worse?! BTW "Who's the Boss" comes to Antenna TV later this year and since they're not on DVD, this will be the first time i'm seeing it since it's original run! I'm so excited! :clap:

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:29 AM

:brent

And the touches of those big triangle earrings and that huge triangular silver "space bracelet"! :rofl:

cfr may wonder why the hell THIS isn't the "dress that's a scream" that I meant, lol...but this look is in a different context. It wasn't just "an outfiit we think is nice in 1986", lol. She was really eager to land a BIG account with this big executive fashion designer man who focused on the youth market, so Angela made herself over in this style to really knock him dead and make him choose her to do the campaign.

Jonathan can't believe it, Mona says she looks something like "sensational", and Samantha says aghast, "Angela---you're hot!" :lol:

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I'm more frightened by her hair than the dress. Her hair looks ridiculous even for the 80's.

So she was wearing a dress made for a teen then? That was the story? Then it makes sense because that is definitely NOT the type of dress for a woman her age, no matter what hideous fashion decade it is.

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 01:31 AM

You just reminded me of one of the funny jokes on the FOL that aired yesterday in "The Ratings Game"!!

Blair is talking about her friend Muffy and Tootie is all "What kind of person actually calls themselves "Muffy"?!"

And Jo is all "I don't know.....TOOTIE!"

And she shoots Jo an extended evil look that says "I'm gonna hurt you in your sleep tonight." :lol:

I can't remember which episode it was, but I believe they did that same exact joke in Edna's Edibles too

And also (spoiler) in the first season, when Tootie makes fun of the names "Tumpy" and "Kedgie" Barksdale (spoiler). :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:32 AM

I almost missed the picture since the page changed so fast lol. If you really want my opinion...I LIKE that dress!!

:rofl:

That's fine, it's just not the reaction I expected! :lol:

Really....this to me is not bad at all, but Angela is WAY too old to be wearing it. On a teen girl in the 80's, this is so "totally awesome"! :heart:

Yes! That's why Angela doesn't get the account---he's afraid if he markets his clothes to adult women, it'll kill the youth market! Teenage girls don't wanna wear what their mothers do! ("Like, that's totally grody!")

Now i'm trying to picture Jo wearing it. :lol:

😆

So there's another dress Angela wore that you think is worse?!

Well, no, this is a different context---you have to see my "next" post about this that explains it! :lol:

BTW "Who's the Boss" comes to Antenna TV later this year and since they're not on DVD, this will be the first time i'm seeing it since it's original run! I'm so excited! :clap:

Yeah?? Wow, cool!! I binge all 8 seasons every couple of years or so (you can find most on Daily Motion). That would be fun to see your thoughts on WtB too! Especially since you haven't seen it in THIRTY YEARS---WOW!! popcorn:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 01:34 AM

And the touches of those big triangle earrings and that huge triangular silver "space bracelet"! :rofl:

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Wow, that hair is so huge I didn't even notice the silver "space bracelet"! :rofl:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:35 AM

I'm more frightened by her hair than the dress. Her hair looks ridiculous even for the 80's.

:lol:

So she was wearing a dress made for a teen then? That was the story? Then it makes sense because that is definitely NOT the type of dress for a woman her age, no matter what hideous fashion decade it is.

Well, she "totally" changed her image to look "HOT" to convince the big account man that if he marketed his clothes to adult women, he would double his market's expansion (sorry if I didn't make that clear). But it backfired on her!

I still love that damn bracelet! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:36 AM

Wow, that hair is so huge I didn't even notice the silver "space bracelet"! :rofl:

:rofl:

Then I'm glad I pointed it out! I think it's a great "supporting player" in that 2nd pic! :lol:

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:39 AM

:rofl:

That's fine, it's just not the reaction I expected! :lol:

Yes! That's why Angela doesn't get the account---he's afraid if he markets his clothes to adult women, it'll kill the youth market! Teenage girls don't wanna wear what their mothers do! ("Like, that's totally grody!")

😆

Well, no, this is a different context---you have to see my "next" post about this that explains it! :lol:

Yeah?? Wow, cool!! I binge all 8 seasons every couple of years or so (you can find most on Daily Motion). That would be fun to see your thoughts on WtB too! Especially since you haven't seen it in THIRTY YEARS---WOW!! popcorn:

I bought the first season on dvd which is the only season they ever released and it was such a freaking tease because it was so nice to relive the memories of this show but I couldn't see anymore past it. :mad:

Hopefully it gains in popularity with the Antenna TV airing and a complete series is eventually released.

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:40 AM

Agreed! I'm very glad for you it's coming to A-TV! :wave:

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:41 AM

Well, she "totally" changed her image to look "HOT" to convince the big account man that if he marketed his clothes to adult women, he would double his market's expansion (sorry if I didn't make that clear). But it backfired on her!

I still love that damn bracelet! :lol:

Was this an early or later season so I know to keep my eye out for it? I remember it went on until the early 90's but I had long tuned out by then.

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:41 AM

cfr, do you want me to just go on and tell you about that one dress? I don't know when I'll find it! lol (I knew the episode of the space dress, that was easy since it was so pertinent to the story!)

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:41 AM

Was this an early or later season so I know to keep my eye out for it? I remember it went on until the early 90's but I had long tuned out by then.

Early! Season 3! :wave:

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:47 AM

Early! Season 3! :wave:

Thanks! Hopefully they'll show a full hour with 2 episodes daily like they do with FOL so the series goes by at a nice quick pace. :):wave:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 01:49 AM

I bought the first season on dvd which is the only season they ever released and it was such a freaking tease because it was so nice to relive the memories of this show but I couldn't see anymore past it. :mad:

Hopefully it gains in popularity with the Antenna TV airing and a complete series is eventually released.

I have always thought it was so weird how many very popular series have never been released on DVD, or only partially available on DVD. Who's the Boss ran until 1992. DVDs were released in 1996. WTB should have been one of the first series out on DVD. It was only four years off the air when DVDs started becoming the next big thing.

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 01:51 AM

Thanks! Hopefully they'll show a full hour with 2 episodes daily like they do with FOL so the series goes by at a nice quick pace. :):wave:

Oh wait---which dress did you mean? :lol: :crazy: The season 3 one is the silver space one! lol

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 01:56 AM

Oh wait---which dress did you mean? :lol: :crazy: The season 3 one is the silver space one! lol

Yeah that's the one i meant. The one in the 2 pics here. It sound like a fun episode and I want to see her make her entrance wearing that dress. :eek:

The other one I hope you find a pic of...but if not, it sounds so off the wall that i'd probably notice it right away when it airs. :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 02:31 AM

Yeah that's the one i meant. The one in the 2 pics here. It sound like a fun episode and I want to see her make her entrance wearing that dress. :eek:

Yeah, she comes sashaying down those stairs!

The other one I hope you find a pic of...but if not, it sounds so off the wall that i'd probably notice it right away when it airs. :lol:

Well, here's a compromise! :wave: I don't know when I'll find the dress, but this is a bit similar, also in season 3---check out this sweater!! That oversized turtleneck looks like one of those cushioned pads people wear around their collar after an injury! And the sweater comes down to practically her KNEES!! :rofl:

The dress I was thinking of is I think yellow, with a big thick belt that bunches down around her thighs! It's crazy! :lol: :cuckoo

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RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 02:33 AM

:brent

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 02:57 AM

I believe I had my 15th or 16th birthday party dinner at a Chi-Chi's in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, with my "Aunt Tootie". It was a really fun night.

Wait a minute!

Iowa!

You said "Iowa"!

Did you ask to have your birthday party in Iowa just because it was mentioned in seasons 3 and 6 of FOL and shown in the latter?? :lol:

("Iowa, Iowa, Iowa---oh, great state, Iowa!")

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 03:25 AM

Wait a minute!

Iowa!

You said "Iowa"!

Did you ask to have your birthday party in Iowa just because it was mentioned in seasons 3 and 6 of FOL and shown in the latter?? :lol:

("Iowa, Iowa, Iowa---oh, great state, Iowa!")

Of course! Once we knew Cliff from FOL was from there, we immediately headed for the nearest Chi-Chi's in Iowa! My sister grabbed her little red raincoat, Aunt Tootie grabbed her Burn Book for gossiping, and we headed out! Imagine our disappointment when Cliff soon departed the series. :lol:

Christopher

04-30-2020, 05:37 AM

I guess i need to watch season 8 again, but even if it were true, i still don't think BEVERLY ANN had more DEPTH and could love the girls more than MRS G did: after all, this show was about a nutritionist and her 4 girls, and if it gained success it was certainly not because of BEVERLY ANN (i suspect you're reading too much into it).
I'm sorry but i don't buy it and i don't see it that way: i wonder if Christopher does?
Are you here Christopher? Tell me you don't think BEVERLY ANN had more DEPTH than MRS G?

You seem to forget what a strong bond MRS G formed with those girls: i don't see how she was distant towards them, and to be honest, i never saw the girls interacting with BEVERLY ANN the way they did with MRS G (especially BLAIR and JO, who i suspect were her favourites) .

Only NATALIE seemed to seek for BEVERLY ANN's company and laugh with her: as for JO, she was rather distant, BLAIR had not much too say and didn't take her seriously and TOOTIE was not that warm toward her, either.

When i think about the relationship BLAIR and JO had with MRS G, i see warmth and admiration: a motherly chemistry they never had with BEVERLY ANN.

I know i need to watch season 8 again and see BEVERLY ANN, but even if what you said is true about her, that doesn't take away the depth MRS G had with her girls: i read between the lines, and to be frank i have never seen her DISTANT towards her girls, on the contrary she was always meddling and wanting to help them, she had so much warmth and was a firm authoritative figure, which is what made her the SURROGATE mother to them....

The only time MRS G was lacking DEPTH, was in season 7.

PS: please read this thread Christopher: i'd really like to know your opinion!

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I'm around on occasion. My weeks are pretty hectic right now because of the coronavirus. Sorry to all for being behind on this thread.

As for your question, Beverly Ann and Mrs. Garrett are two completely different characters. Beverly Ann wasn't written in the show to be a cardboard copy of Mrs. Garrett. She is her own character. There's a lot of episodes where Beverly Ann is trying to build that rapport with the girls, but even she knows she's not her sister and is not trying to take her sister's place. In season 8, Beverly Ann does have depth. She's written really well.

I think what you need to do when you rewatch season 8, do not see Beverly Ann as a replacement for Mrs. Garrett. She's treated as a friend by the girls. They're not looking at her as their housemother and Beverly Ann never acts as their housemother. I prefer how they did this over shows that try to get that cardboard copy of a popular character that leaves.

Christopher

04-30-2020, 05:43 AM

When I start from the beginning, i'm wondering if it might make for better viewing if I watch the episodes in the production order rather than from air dates.

It would take making a list out first in that order to view then, and if it makes for a better experience I may take the time to do it. Do you think it's worth it to avoid any of the minor inconsistencies that you see from watching in air date order? Or just best to watch by air dates?

I prefer watching production order, especially for season 6 and season 8. I like having 'Working it Out' in the beginning of season 6 so it makes sense seeing Blair date other guys. Season 8 I get tired of seeing the piano coming and going so that's why I prefer the production order there :)

Christopher

04-30-2020, 06:15 AM

“The Ratings Game” or as I call it-- “Blair the Airheaded Ditz”

Boy they really dumbed down Blair for this one didn’t they? She was so ditzy here it was unbelievable, but played beautifully by Lisa so it wasn’t as annoying as it could’ve been. Still, she's POD Blair and in Bootsie overdrive here. :lol:

If you think she was an airhead in this episode, I can't wait to see your reaction to her in season 9 :lol: I don't see her as an airhead in this episode. She's her normal man-crazed self. But I do think she was insane for giving up the hunk for that lame weatherman.

It’s Dr. Craig Wesley from Days of Our Lives who becomes smitten with Jo and she to him!! Ha! Yet another daytime actor passes through Peekskill before going onto the soaps. When he walked in the door I almost thought it was Christopher Reeve, but then I thought what the hell would he be doing on the Facts of Life lol. The resemblance between them is striking though, so for now on i'm calling him Superman. :)

I loved him and Nancy on Days! They were comical to watch a lot of times. Fading them out is another reason I gave up on Days.

As for the episode, it's alright. It's not one of my favorites from season 8.

“The Wedding Day”

If I had a dollar for every time a sitcom did the “marry an illegal to keep him in the country” plot, i’d be a rich man! It was now FOL’s turn to do it I guess and it’s not as cheesy as other sitcoms have done. It held my interest and did have a couple of LOL parts.

Again Jo takes the spotlight and main story just like last episode with Superman, who’s unfortunately long gone from Peekskill by now and probably saving Lois Lane somewhere.

She’s now hanging with Enrico who’s an illegal that wants to stay in the country. Jo is all set to marry him without even telling the core 3...but she says they’re too close to her to be objective and she was planning on doing this without ever telling them?! Wow. So she was just going to let them know after the fact?

Natalie has the funniest scene calling Jo from the shop to warn her about being stuck with Enrico for 2 years! Of course that changes everything and the plan gets dropped. Tootie has a Rose Nylund moment asking when Jo’s father is arriving for the wedding. It was dumb, but I still LOL’d at that. Oh Tootie! :loveya:

Beverly also has a LOL line earlier after Natalie points out to Jo “What’s a marriage without “etcetera”?” To which Beverly pipes up without missing a beat, “The story of my life”. Ha! I just love bitter Beverly! :heart:

It seems her hair stylist wasn’t fired after all, but just moved onto Mindy Cohn this season to work her freaky hair experiments on lol. That red hair just isn’t doing anything for her at all. I really don’t like it. puke::barf:

After seeing the DVD version of this episode, I ended up liking it more. Tootie's line about etcetera and Beverly Ann's comeback about the story of her life was cut on N@N.

Mindy's hair doesn't bother me. I like how she didn't do major 80's hairstyles throughout the show's run like Nancy, Lisa, and Kim did. Mindy kept it simple.

Christopher

04-30-2020, 06:47 AM

“Fast Food”

I remember this one from it’s original airing and also from last year's Decades Marathon. I seem to have caught some of season 8 in that marathon but I know I shut it off before season 9 episodes played because it was midnight by then and I had to go to sleep. So I know definitely that season 9 will be all brand new to me! :crazy:

This is another good episode. Season 8 is just rolling right along (with Enrico being the one teeny slump)

Blair needs to take a job for a college credit, so of course it’s a perfect coincidence that the temp job Natalie is working at this week just happens to be one of the jobs on the list for her course! Amazing how things in sitcom land align perfectly like that isn’t it?

So Blair asks Nat for the job and she says sure, you can start tomorrow and before exiting shoots to her that she’ll put her nose to the grindstone…...again. LOL...MEOW! HISS! :cat:

The side story has Beverly Ann hooking up with Orson Bean who’s Tootie’s professor Oliver, and they hit it off nicely together. I don’t know if we ever see him again, but at the end of the episode she’s getting ready to see “Ollie” again and looks smitten with him. I’m sure he disappears and never heard from again though. Sad, because I like Orson.

Back at the Taco Stand, which is a fast food place, yet people are sitting down and waiting to get waited on?! What?! It makes no sense that no one orders at the counter like the first customer did. Weird! This ain't Chi Chi's people!

Of course Blair can’t handle all those angry customers and gets into a little battle with an old lady who screams at her that “I’ve been coming here since before you were blond!” Ha! I love that line and filed it away in my head to use it later on. :lol:

Of course Beverly Ann and Orson Bean drop by for some tacos after their movie date and Tootie & Jo just happen to have a taco craving as well---but it's more likely to watch Blair make a fool of herself than actual hunger with them. :lol:

More hilarity ensues and Blair eventually gets fired along with Natalie but Blair fixes things the next morning with her boss and all is well again. It’s a really good episode where we see the whole group together for much of the show.

And we get confirmation of Blair's age being 22 here so I guess this is her last year in college?

Andy the Street Urchin is once again just lounging around that house like it’s his home with still zero explanation of his constant presence….when is it going to be acknowledged that this kid off the street is suddenly living with 5 grown women?! It’s getting a little awkward now especially now that he's growing bigger. :eek:

I love this episode. We see Tootie warming up to Beverly Ann. She tries helping her bounce back from her divorce by setting her up on a date. We see Tootie and Blair taking an interest in Beverly Ann's date. Tootie wants to spy on them and Blair stops working to watch them until Natalie yells at Blair to "serve the damn food" :lol:

As for Andy, I took it that they looked at Andy as a little brother. By this point, they've known him for almost 2 whole years. He was obviously getting attention or nurture from the girls that he wasn't getting from his home environment. With his story in 'Boy About The House', it could be interrupted that he was hanging around with the girls to avoid the drama of his home.

“Where’s Poppa?”

I don’t think Blair ever called her Dad “Poppa” so the episode title for this one is kind of weird. Shouldn’t it be “Where’s Daddy?”

Jo is wearing the biggest sweater i’ve ever seen on her. It looks like it’s a 10XXX and you could fit 14 Oprahs inside it. It’s the most hideous thing i’ve ever seen Nancy M in. Just scroll down to the pic and take a look at this monstrosity! It’s ginormous! I can’t believe Jo would be out shopping, see this on the rack and say “Yeah, that’s so me! Gimme one in every color!”

I mean, can you really imagine her wearing this elephant mumu while riding her motorcycle?! I can’t lol. Really, I just can’t! I’m all for femming up Jo, but not like this. I’d rather see the army clothes and ponytail come back over these ugly outfits.

Speaking of ponytails, she actually had one in this one and it really looked good on her. But her choice of clothes leave much to be desired. You know Blair had to be snickering to herself whenever Jo got dressed in the morning. :lol:

It was an ok episode. Blair’s daddy is busted for insider trading but we learn later on that things aren’t always what they seem (maybe I should just say what it is and put the word “spoiler” in bold letters on either side of the sentence to really hide it from everyone LOL….Hi Retro! I'm talking to you! :wave:)

Blair is upset with Daddy for most of the show until Jo has a heart to heart with her and changes Blairs mind to forgive Daddy, but then we learn the what the spoiler is and all is dandy again and there’s not much for Blair to forgive anyway.

Beverly Ann is still looking nervous trying to get close to the girls. When she was talking to Blair’s father and Blair walked in, you could see her nervousness at wanting to say the right things to her. I think it’s mostly because she knows she puts her foot in her mouth a lot too lol.

It’s nice seeing these subtle mannerisms on Beverly and i’m sure it’s Cloris’s great acting that contributes to it. I can see without her saying a line that the character is still treading lightly around the girls, knowing these are still her sister’s girls and not hers….though she wants them to be and feels like they are from all the letters from Mrs. G over the years…..But she knows that’s only one sided and no matter how close SHE may feel to those girls….they aren't there with her yet.

I just see these subtle mannerisms coming through in Beverly’s movements, looks and mannerisms around the girls and it’s a nice extra layer of the character so i’m really enjoying both Beverly and Cloris here a lot.

I guess as a teen I didn’t catch these things, and of course I hated her, but now as an adult I see them and my perception is totally different.

Natalie’s hair though….please say she gets rid of that hideous red before the series is finished. It’s just NOT Natalie. The other girls look great….I guess it’s just Natalie’s turn to have a bad hair season.

And of course Jo with her awful fashion sense. But otherwise, this is a nice little episode where we learn Blair's granddaddy is alive and 87, so who the hell was that racist one who’s dead and was going to be on the Eastland Library a few seasons ago?! Just how many granddaddy’s does this girl have?! Or was it her great grandaddy?! :eek:

Here's Jo in her elephant muumuu ----:rofl:

Like 'The Wedding Day', this is another episode that is better on DVD with the scenes that are cut for commercials. I love how Beverly Ann hits the newspaper in Blair's hands to get her out of shock. Jo replies, "It's ok Blair. You're here with your friends...and Beverly Ann" :lol: I also like how Natalie comes in the house saying she went all the way down for an interview and they wanted her to write a story. Jo does her classic sarcasm here saying, "You're kidding? Then what were they going to do, print it?" :lol: Turns out they wanted Natalie to write a story about Blair's dad but it's a funny scene.

I like the Blair / Jo scene in this episode. Jo shows her deep friendship with Blair by sharing her feelings about what it was like when her father was in jail. We see even in season 8 the friendship between the girls is actually real and not superficial.

Christopher

04-30-2020, 06:53 AM

And speaking of PODS: today i watched the episodes
'3, 2 , 1'[/B] and the REAL MRS G has definitely been taking down the basement and been replaced by POD on those both episodes!!!
She even called TOOTIE by the wrong name: NATALIE ha ha! (she can't even tell her girls apart!):lol::lol::lol:. DEFINITELY A POD!

That's done on purpose though in 3, 2, 1. Mrs. Garrett is nervous about being on TV. I don't consider that scene POD Mrs. Garrett since she was displaying a feeling many people go through when on the spot.

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 10:59 AM

Yeah, she comes sashaying down those stairs!

Well, here's a compromise! :wave: I don't know when I'll find the dress, but this is a bit similar, also in season 3---check out this sweater!! That oversized turtleneck looks like one of those cushioned pads people wear around their collar after an injury! And the sweater comes down to practically her KNEES!! :rofl:

The dress I was thinking of is I think yellow, with a big thick belt that bunches down around her thighs! It's crazy! :lol: :cuckoo

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To be honest that's not horrible and I do remember outfits like that with the tight leggings on the bottom and potato sacks up top. :lol:

I do remember the oversized look was in though so I shouldn't make too much fun. Even being a skinny 17 year old I too wore oversized t shirts and also those oversized button up shirts with crazy designs on them because that was just the look and we all thought they were so cool! puke::barf:

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 11:04 AM

I prefer watching production order, especially for season 6 and season 8. I like having 'Working it Out' in the beginning of season 6 so it makes sense seeing Blair date other guys. Season 8 I get tired of seeing the piano coming and going so that's why I prefer the production order there :)

I'm going to have to make a printout of the production episodes and try it that way. There's also seeing Tootie's braces coming on and off too. :lol:

And someone mentioned The Interview Show (I think it was you?) clearly being filmed in the fall with foliage in the background but not airing until May. So I think it's worth it to try production order and see if things flow better.

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 11:14 AM

If you think she was an airhead in this episode, I can't wait to see your reaction to her in season 9 :lol: I don't see her as an airhead in this episode. She's her normal man-crazed self. But I do think she was insane for giving up the hunk for that lame weatherman.

I loved him and Nancy on Days! They were comical to watch a lot of times. Fading them out is another reason I gave up on Days.

As for the episode, it's alright. It's not one of my favorites from season 8.

After seeing the DVD version of this episode, I ended up liking it more. Tootie's line about etcetera and Beverly Ann's comeback about the story of her life was cut on N@N.

Mindy's hair doesn't bother me. I like how she didn't do major 80's hairstyles throughout the show's run like Nancy, Lisa, and Kim did. Mindy kept it simple.

Nancy was his wife! I couldn't place her name but I could picture her in my head! She was the heavy set nurse right? I liked both of them and they brought comic relief to the show. I just saw her recently on a Roseanne episode where she plays Roseanne's doppleganger who Dan has fantasies over lol. It was a funny episode.

Days was really great during that era of the mid to late 90's then it all started to fall apart until they did the serial killer in the early 00's and that fell apart and I tuned out forever. Great memories though!

I wonder if the "etcetera" line was cut for N@N because it was too risque for kids? I can picture a little child turning to their parent and asking "Mommy what's etcetera and why does a marriage need it?" :lol:

It was left intact for the Antenna TV airing....which only makes me wonder what ELSE they cut out instead?!

valentina warner

04-30-2020, 02:40 PM

I'm around on occasion. My weeks are pretty hectic right now because of the coronavirus. Sorry to all for being behind on this thread.

As for your question, Beverly Ann and Mrs. Garrett are two completely different characters. Beverly Ann wasn't written in the show to be a cardboard copy of Mrs. Garrett. She is her own character. There's a lot of episodes where Beverly Ann is trying to build that rapport with the girls, but even she knows she's not her sister and is not trying to take her sister's place. In season 8, Beverly Ann does have depth. She's written really well.

I think what you need to do when you rewatch season 8, do not see Beverly Ann as a replacement for Mrs. Garrett. She's treated as a friend by the girls. They're not looking at her as their housemother and Beverly Ann never acts as their housemother. I prefer how they did this over shows that try to get that cardboard copy of a popular character that leaves.

Thank you for your answer Christopher: i like how you are always objective!:wave:

Yes, i see your point of view and should definitely NOT compare MRS G and BEVERLY ANN (it just got me when i read on the thread that BEVERLY ANN had more depth than MRS G cos i don't see it that way).:confused:

I agree they both had a different RELATIONSHIP with the girls: MRS G was a mother, confidante, nurse, snoop, mentor and a best friend to the girls.
BEVERLY ANN on the other hand was a mixture of friend and eccentric aunt.:crazy:

I am still finishing watching season 7 and not really liking it at all: to me it looks like any ordinary comedy sitcom, but not what FOL is all about!:eek:

Anyway, once i'm done with season 7 i am very much looking forwards to start with season 8 (right now i'm watching it on 'DAILY MOTION' cos YouTube stopped providing the episodes) but if i am tempted in buying it! Let's see....:talk:

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

FOL-FAN-ITA

04-30-2020, 03:34 PM

Thank you for your answer Christopher: i like how you are always objective!:wave:

Yes, i see your point of view and should definitely NOT compare MRS G and BEVERLY ANN (it just got me when i read on the thread that BEVERLY ANN had more depth than MRS G cos i don't see it that way).:confused:

I agree they both had a different RELATIONSHIP with the girls: MRS G was a mother, confidante, nurse, snoop, mentor and a best friend to the girls.
BEVERLY ANN on the other hand was a mixture of friend and eccentric aunt.:crazy:

I am still finishing watching season 7 and not really liking it at all: to me it looks like any ordinary comedy sitcom, but not what FOL is all about!:eek:

Anyway, once i'm done with season 7 i am very much looking forwards to start with season 8 (right now i'm watching it on 'DAILY MOTION' cos YouTube stopped providing the episodes) but if i am tempted in buying it! Let's see....:talk:

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Agree with you, Valentina! Mrs. Garrett is the surrogate mother, the mentor, friend and confidant of the Core Four, Beverly Ann is a friend.
The producers did a wonderful job with the two characters, they have two different personalities and roles, Beverly Ann isn't a carbon copy of Mrs. Garrett. They are both funny but we know that Edna Garrett is irreplaceable and Beverly Ann knows it, in fact she didn't try to replace her sister.
About season 7, I know it's a weak season compared to the other years for multiple reasons, but season 8 is a great solid season, you'll miss Mrs. G but watching the episodes you realize what a great impact she had on her girls.
Season 9 contains several good episodes.

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 04:47 PM

“Write and Wrong” or “Natalie the Doormat”

I like this episode but Natalie...oh NATALIE! What HAPPENED to you?! Just when I was putting you at the top of the Core Four ranking, you turn into a doormat and let a bitchy, bullying old lady walk all over you. And Street Urchin’s grandmother to boot! UGH! And that Urchin is DEAD to me now….DEAD FOREVER for what he did to her! :angryfire

(But first off…I need to calm down a little before I get to all the evilness in this one lol)

I think I solved the garage mystery!! That elusive garage is BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the fireplace wall! When Beverly Ann took George out of the 2nd door that Blair walked through in The Chain Letter, we saw the bushes outside like it was a walkway, the same as when Blair walked into it.

Then we saw Beverly Ann and George take a left turn towards the garage! Now logically they would’ve taken the FIRST front door to it if it was all the way towards the back of the house by the patio doors right? But since they took the 2nd door there, it only proves that the garage has to logically be BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the wall of the fireplace!! The mystery is SOLVED! Hooray!!....Right? RIGHT?! I mean, it's the ONLY explanation that makes sense!!

Speaking of George, his hair is long and floppy again so this is definitely another episode aired out of production order since his hair was really short last time he appeared.

Ok, i've taken a few deep breaths and can go to the main story….Natalie wrote some steamy, slutty story and it got rejected, but an altered version appeared in some soft core porn mag that just happened to be lying around the living room for Blair to read. What a coincidence...and it's opened right to Natalie’s story too! :lol:

Natalie is of course LIVID when she sees it and rightfully so and she's all ready to sue and go to war. Rightfully so again because this is her career here and someone is making money off her hard work! We eventually find out Andy the Street Urchin is responsible for this by taking a copy of Nat’s story and giving it to his Grandmother, who likes to write stories herself.

The evil grandmother altered Nat’s story and sent it into the magazine under a made up name, gets paid $500 for it....and Andy was going to go the rest of his life saying NOTHING about it to anyone!! Wow! Street Urchin is just as evil as his grandma! Now he’s just as low as Kelly the first Street Urchin! And he's actually LOWER because at least Kelly was up front with her evilness whereas ANDY was going to keep forever quiet about this while letting these people continue to care for him. EVIL! :angryfire:smash:

The fact that he was just going to let this go is wrong on so many levels. These women have been nothing but good to him, let him hang around them all the time because he’s a friendless Urchin and they took him in and let him practically live under their roof like one of their own.

And this is how he pays one of them back?! DEAD TO ME FOREVER!

Natalie wants justice (who wouldn't?!) but what’s so weird and unbelievable, is the core 3 are all like “just let it go”. WTF?! Are they all PODS this week?! Even Jo, who’s always out for justice is saying it’s not worth it. It’s like the Twilight Zone here. Seriously! They do say they’ll stick behind her no matter what...but it’s half hearted and they continue to act like they think she’s the wrong one here...."But we're behind you anyway." WOW is all I can say to that! Some friends...or should I say PODS! :sarah:

THEN when Natalie does attempt to make peace with the woman at Beverly Ann’s advice, the woman is even worse than before and she outright admits her theft and practically DARES Natalie to sue her while she's all evil and gleeful about it! All that was missing was a wicked laugh! What a hateful old bat she was. Just a terrible human being!

But Natalie has had enough and turns into a POD herself and gives this pathetic speech how it’s affecting and changing her and that suing is not worth it as long as she knows she’s right dammit! So she’s dropping the lawsuit and letting this evil witch keep her $500 that Andy helped spend btw...and she's going to take the high road. POD POD POD!! :sarah:

All I can say to that is good luck Natalie if you want to join the world of publishing. With that wimpy attitude, you’ll NEVER make it. Now I get Natalie is supposed to be this nice person, but we’ve always seen she has a backbone and fights for justice when she sees wrongdoing. She doesn't just lay down and die....unless she's a POD!

It’s astonishing how easily she caves in here and also how her friends think she’s wrong for pursuing this. Especially Jo who’s always been a stickler for defending the underdog. I don’t care if you’re old...that’s no excuse nor does it make you special. Wrong is wrong...and the fact that this crabby old EVIL lady actually rubbed it in to Nat's face makes it even worse because she’s using her age to make others feel too sorry to sue her. It’s diabolical! :devil:

UGH. It’s still a good episode and I liked it, but how they portrayed Natalie as such a doormat POD and that evil, disgusting Street Urchin (who is DEAD to me forever!) backstabbing people who took care of him was unbelievable!

A few other observations on a lighter note. I thought we were gonna finally meet Dead Street Urchin’s parents in this one and learn why he’s always hanging around these 5 women. Apparently they’re off in Europe and he’s with Evil crabby witch of a grandmother. I don't blame his parent's for wanting to get away from this evil kid. I'd flee to the other side of the world too.

Beverly makes mention when talking with Evil Witch Grandmother, that she wants to talk “Guardian to Guardian”. What the hell did she mean by that? She wasn’t Dead Street Urchin’s guardian at that point, so it makes no sense. Beverly Ann was no one’s guardian here so it was weird to say.

We see the piano being placed by the stairs for the first time. Now where the heck did the big bench go?! Into the garage between the 2 front doors? I kinda miss that big ugly thing, but I have to say, the piano does look much better there. Good episode and made me hate Street Urchin FOREVER! :mad:

“Seven Little Indians”

I knew the gist of this episode from talk here and I was really looking forward to it….until I seen it. All I have to say is Oh. My. God. It’s THE ABSOLUTE WORST EPISODE of the entire series! The WORST! It’s SO terrible it needs to be buried and never to see the light of day again! I don’t even have much to say except that it’s boring, badly acted, and just terrible all around.

I get they wanted to have some campy fun here, but while the idea sounds great...the execution was so bad. I mean…..BAD! I found myself bored by it when I felt like I should be enjoying it. I think it could’ve been done much better than it was. Truck Stop was done under the same concept and that was pulled off nicely....this fell flatter than Jo's pizza! :lol:

And why is it ALWAYS Blair being the killer in these dream/fantasy episodes? Never Tootie, Jo or Nat?! In Truck Stop I believe it was Blair then….and in Mrs. G’s dream...Blair is the murderer again….and now here….always Blair lol. Blair Blair Blair! Shake things up a bit and make someone else the killer for a change!

I see they gave Blair her season 7 hair back in that final scene LOL!!

And the only part that I really enjoyed was this-----A giant Leon kills Jo! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 05:02 PM

Of course! Once we knew Cliff from FOL was from there, we immediately headed for the nearest Chi-Chi's in Iowa! My sister grabbed her little red raincoat, Aunt Tootie grabbed her Burn Book for gossiping, and we headed out! Imagine our disappointment when Cliff soon departed the series. :lol:

I knew it! :lol:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 05:08 PM

“Write and Wrong”

Ok, i've taken a few deep breaths and can go to the main story….Natalie wrote some steamy, slutty story and it got rejected, but an altered version appeared in some soft core porn mag that just happened to be lying around the living room for Blair to read. What a coincidence...and it's opened right to Natalie’s story too! :lol:

Not only does Tootie open it right to Natalie's story, Natalie was just talking about this same story to Tootie. And Natalie just happens to subscribe to the same magazine that Andy's grandmother submitted the story to. And Andy's grandmother and Natalie both submitted the story to the same magazine. And the magazine never contacted Natalie about the fact that the story bore so many resemblances to a story they were already publishing. All of this is very believable. :lol:

I just watched this episode last week, and was struck by how easily they could have fixed this bizarre series of coincidences: have the magazine's editor contact Natalie and explain that it was too similar to a story published in another one of their publications. Natalie gets a copy and discovers it's her story. Easy fix.

“Seven Little Indians”

I knew the gist of this episode from talk here and I was really looking forward to it….until I seen it. All I have to say is Oh. My. God. It’s THE ABSOLUTE WORST EPISODE of the entire series! The WORST!

Yeah, it's very bad. I loved it when I was, like, 10, but it hasn't held up well.

And the only part that I really enjoyed was this-----A giant Leon kills Jo! :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 05:09 PM

I knew it! :lol:
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 05:10 PM

To be honest that's not horrible and I do remember outfits like that with the tight leggings on the bottom and potato sacks up top. :lol:

I do remember the oversized look was in though so I shouldn't make too much fun. Even being a skinny 17 year old I too wore oversized t shirts and also those oversized button up shirts with crazy designs on them because that was just the look and we all thought they were so cool!

Haha! Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not doing these posts as a nasty slander of '80s fashion---I LOVE the '80, and I (usually*) LOVE seeing the crazy '80s fashion! So fun and nostalgic! :loveya: It's just your riffing on that Jo XXX-long sweater reminded me instantly of that WtB dress that's belted around her THIGHS, lol, and then I remembered the winter lodge trip "potato sack with leggings" as you put it, lol.

*(Blair's horrible socket hair is an exception! Oh, and any and all mullets)

Judith Light has a WONDERFUL interview at the Television Academy's interview website, and she says back when the show was in its original run, fashion was a big part of it. She said there was fan mail from some viewers who were tuning in week to week to see what fashionable styles Angela Bower was gonna be wearing as a successful executive in New York, and that Angela became a role model to a generation of young women and girls who went into the corporate world. She says she's been told before by women that it was Angela Bower that inspired them to go into their careers (I love that).

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 05:16 PM

Not only does Tootie open it right to Natalie's story, Natalie was just talking about this same story to Tootie. And Natalie just happens to subscribe to the same magazine that Andy's grandmother submitted the story to. And Andy's grandmother and Natalie both submitted the story to the same magazine. And the magazine never contacted Natalie about the fact that the story bore so many resemblances to a story they were already publishing. All of this is very believable. :lol:

I just watched this episode last week, and was struck by how easily they could have fixed this bizarre series of coincidences: have the magazine's editor contact Natalie and explain that it was too similar to a story published in another one of their publications. Natalie gets a copy and discovers it's her story. Easy fix.

Your idea is much more logical than all those huge coincidences leading up to the discovery. It was all written so sloppily. In fact I like yours better because Nat opens the letter from the publisher and discovers the evil deeds by that and then dead to me Street Urchin Andy walks in and hears the word Desiree and just continue the story from there. Very easy fix indeed!

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 05:18 PM

“Write and Wrong” or “Natalie the Doormat”

I skip this episode from now on, and you reminded me exactly why, lol. I mean I knew the basics of why I didn't like it, but yeah. I hate what happens to Natalie and how she doesn't try to make it right.

I think I solved the garage mystery!! That elusive garage is BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the fireplace wall! When Beverly Ann took George out of the 2nd door that Blair walked through in The Chain Letter, we saw the bushes outside like it was a walkway, the same as when Blair walked into it.

Then we saw Beverly Ann and George take a left turn towards the garage! Now logically they would’ve taken the FIRST front door to it if it was all the way towards the back of the house by the patio doors right? But since they took the 2nd door there, it only proves that the garage has to logically be BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the wall of the fireplace!! The mystery is SOLVED! Hooray!!....Right? RIGHT?! I mean, it's the ONLY explanation that makes sense!!

I'm afraid not, cfr. The garage is a weird acid-trip Twilight Zone object. There are so many different implied or shown locations, that it just cannot be "anywhere" that makes sense for all the doors/buildings shown. I still like to assume B.A. and G head out the door and go along the house's front to the garage at the back where we saw that building in "The Wedding Day", but then they "move" the garage to the other end of the front of the house in season 9 so aaaaaggghhhh :wallbang

“Seven Little Indians”

I knew the gist of this episode from talk here and I was really looking forward to it….until I seen it. All I have to say is Oh. My. God. It’s THE ABSOLUTE WORST EPISODE of the entire series! The WORST! It’s SO terrible it needs to be buried and never to see the light of day again! I don’t even have much to say except that it’s boring, badly acted, and just terrible all around.

I get they wanted to have some campy fun here, but while the idea sounds great...the execution was so bad. I mean…..BAD! I found myself bored by it when I felt like I should be enjoying it. I think it could’ve been done much better than it was. Truck Stop was done under the same concept and that was pulled off nicely....this fell flatter than Jo's pizza! :lol:

And why is it ALWAYS Blair being the killer in these dream/fantasy episodes? Never Tootie, Jo or Nat?! In Truck Stop I believe it was Blair then….and in Mrs. G’s dream...Blair is the murderer again….and now here….always Blair lol. Blair Blair Blair! Shake things up a bit and make someone else the killer for a change!

I see they gave Blair her season 7 hair back in that final scene LOL!!

And the only part that I really enjoyed was this-----A giant Leon kills Jo! :lol:

:eek2:

WOW.

I am SHOCKED.

ASTOUNDED.

STUNNED.

I can't believe you didn't enjoy this episode. I thought you would think it was a hoot! For Pete's sakes, George and Urchin end up DEAD in this dream, and I thought you would be partying your house down! :lol: Not to mention Beverly Ann too when you were "doggin' on her" for several weeks there, lol (though you've turned around now). And you can't really say "badly acted" if you also say you know it was "campy". That was the point, for them to let go and have fun being over the top because they were being broad and not taking themselves too seriously by doing a campy parody of those '80s slasher films.

Plus, you love "The Twilight Zone"! So I thought you'd love that they did a parody of it! popcorn: lol

Also: "Tootie :grineyes:".

:lol:

WOW...it's gonna take me hours to process the fact that you were NOT entertained by this one! lol

cfr1970

04-30-2020, 05:19 PM

Haha! Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not doing these posts as a nasty slander of '80s fashion---I LOVE the '80, and I (usually*) LOVE seeing the crazy '80s fashion! So fun and nostalgic! :loveya: It's just your riffing on that Jo XXX-long sweater reminded me instantly of that WtB dress that's belted around her THIGHS, lol, and then I remembered the winter lodge trip "potato sack with leggings" as you put it, lol.

*(Blair's horrible socket hair is an exception! Oh, and any and all mullets)

Judith Light has a WONDERFUL interview at the Television Academy's interview website, and she says back when the show was in its original run, fashion was a big part of it. She said there was fan mail from some viewers who were tuning in week to week to see what fashionable styles Angela Bower was gonna be wearing as a successful executive in New York, and that Angela became a role model to a generation of young women and girls who went into the corporate world. She says she's been told before by women that it was Angela Bower that inspired them to go into their careers (I love that).

I only saw the first season recently (which was actually 4 years ago, yikes!) and all I remember from Angela's outfits were those humongous shoulder pads lol. So i'm going to keep this in mind about young professionals wanting to emulate her back then when the series starts on Antenna TV.

All I see when I think of that character is big hair, big glasses and big shoulders....lol I guess that's why they're called The Big 80's. :lol:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 05:26 PM

Your idea is much more logical than all those huge coincidences leading up to the discovery. It was all written so sloppily. In fact I like yours better because Nat opens the letter from the publisher and discovers the evil deeds by that and then dead to me Street Urchin Andy walks in and hears the word Desiree and just continue the story from there. Very easy fix indeed!

Thanks. With a little tightening, this story could have been much better. And there are major continuity issues between this episode (8-11) and episode 8-19, "Boy About the House", which you will soon see. But still, there are still some good episodes yet for you to see in season 8.

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 05:26 PM

I only saw the first season recently (which was actually 4 years ago, yikes!) and all I remember from Angela's outfits were those humongous shoulder pads lol. So i'm going to keep this in mind about young professionals wanting to emulate her back then when the series starts on Antenna TV.

All I see when I think of that character is big hair, big glasses and big shoulders....lol I guess that's why they're called The Big 80's. :lol:

:lol:

She says in her interview that the producers told her at the beginning they didn't have much budget for fashion, and she told them, "Uh, guys, she's an advertising vice president in New York City. She has to dress the part." And she got together with an assistant or somebody and they catered a lunch for the producers, and Judith says during the lunch she did a fashion show for them where she went in and out quickly with outfit changes where they told them, "This is Angela on the train in her way to work in the city", "This is Angela on her way to a formal awards dinner", "This is Angela lounging at home on the weekends", "This is Angela going on a date", etc., and she said after the fashion show lunch the producers were totally convinced. They told her, "We'll get the money. Somehow we'll get the money."

And they did. :nod:

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 05:28 PM

Yeah, it's very bad. I loved it when I was, like, 10, but it hasn't held up well.

I think it holds up well if you go into it with a "campy mind". I like to just let go and have fun with it. :) But you definitely can't take it seriously.

Eastland is my favorite era, but I love that they did a "let's have fun with this!" fantasy episode.

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 05:31 PM

I think it holds up well if you go into it with a "campy mind". I like to just let go and have fun with it. :) But you definitely can't take it seriously.

Eastland is my favorite era, but I love that they did a "let's have fun with this!" fantasy episode.

I think it would have worked well as a silly Halloween episode, and if I regard it in the same light, I see what you're saying.

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 05:33 PM

I think it would have worked well as a silly Halloween episode, and if I regard it in the same light, I see what you're saying.

Yeah, if I watched it in October I would definitely enjoy it as campy fantasy Halloween fare. :nod:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 05:35 PM

:lol:

She says in her interview that the producers told her at the beginning they didn't have much budget for fashion, and she told them, "Uh, guys, she's an advertising vice president in New York City. She has to dress the part." And she got together with an assistant or somebody and they catered a lunch for the producers, and Judith says during the lunch she did a fashion show for them where she went in and out quickly with outfit changes where they told them, "This is Angela on the train in her way to work in the city", "This is Angela on her way to a formal awards dinner", "This is Angela lounging at home on the weekends", "This is Angela going on a date", etc., and she said after the fashion show lunch the producers were totally convinced. They told her, "We'll get the money. Somehow we'll get the money."

And they did. :nod:

I didn't know this. Thanks for the info!

Angela's crazy outfits helped make WTB what it is, and so it's cool that Judith stuck to her guns and made Angela who she thought the character should be. And even though the outfits haven't dated well, we in the present can see how Angela should have been wearing them, while Jo, over in Peekskill, should not.

'80sSitcoms

04-30-2020, 05:38 PM

I didn't know this. Thanks for the info!

My pleasure! :wave: Her interview there is such a highlight. I re-watch it on occasion just because she is so refreshing and rejuvenating in what she shares about her life experiences and being open to the universe (not in a kooky New Agey way, but a grounded way).

Angela's crazy outfits helped make WTB what it is, and so it's cool that Judith stuck to her guns and made Angela who she thought the character should be. And even though the outfits haven't dated well, we in the present can see how Angela should have been wearing them, while Jo, over in Peekskill, should not.

:lol:

Well, and I haven't helped her any in this thread with any visuals of her really good '80s looks. :lol: Some of her looks are very elegant and beautiful and would look great today. But not the ones I've shared so far. :lol:

And now, back to Mister Rogers' Neighborhood: A Visual History...:read:

RetroGuy2000

04-30-2020, 05:48 PM

My pleasure! :wave: Her interview there is such a highlight. I re-watch it on occasion just because she is so refreshing and rejuvenating in what she shares about her life experiences and being open to the universe (not in a kooky New Agey way, but a grounded way).

I've only seen the ones on YouTube, so I'll have to go back and check the ones on the website.

:lol:

Well, and I haven't helped her any in this thread with any visuals of her really good '80s looks. :lol: Some of her looks are very elegant and beautiful and would look great today. But not the ones I've shared so far. :lol:

:lol:

True, Jo had some great fashion choices in the later years, too. Clearly, they wanted to soften her image. After six or seven years, she didn't need to be Fonzie/Foxy anymore.

But Jo was never going to be a high-powered corporate executive. Some of the outfits she wears veers into Angela Bower territory.

valentina warner

04-30-2020, 06:48 PM

“Write and Wrong” or “Natalie the Doormat”

I like this episode but Natalie...oh NATALIE! What HAPPENED to you?! Just when I was putting you at the top of the Core Four ranking, you turn into a doormat and let a bitchy, bullying old lady walk all over you. And Street Urchin’s grandmother to boot! UGH! And that Urchin is DEAD to me now….DEAD FOREVER for what he did to her!

(But first off…I need to calm down a little before I get to all the evilness in this one lol)

I think I solved the garage mystery!! That elusive garage is BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the fireplace wall! When Beverly Ann took George out of the 2nd door that Blair walked through in The Chain Letter, we saw the bushes outside like it was a walkway, the same as when Blair walked into it.

Then we saw Beverly Ann and George take a left turn towards the garage! Now logically they would’ve taken the FIRST front door to it if it was all the way towards the back of the house by the patio doors right? But since they took the 2nd door there, it only proves that the garage has to logically be BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the wall of the fireplace!! The mystery is SOLVED! Hooray!!....Right? RIGHT?! I mean, it's the ONLY explanation that makes sense!!

Speaking of George, his hair is long and floppy again so this is definitely another episode aired out of production order since his hair was really short last time he appeared.

Ok, i've taken a few deep breaths and can go to the main story….Natalie wrote some steamy, slutty story and it got rejected, but an altered version appeared in some soft core porn mag that just happened to be lying around the living room for Blair to read. What a coincidence...and it's opened right to Natalie’s story too!

Natalie is of course LIVID when she sees it and rightfully so and she's all ready to sue and go to war. Rightfully so again because this is her career here and someone is making money off her hard work! We eventually find out Andy the Street Urchin is responsible for this by taking a copy of Nat’s story and giving it to his Grandmother, who likes to write stories herself.

The evil grandmother altered Nat’s story and sent it into the magazine under a made up name, gets paid $500 for it....and Andy was going to go the rest of his life saying NOTHING about it to anyone!! Wow! Street Urchin is just as evil as his grandma! Now he’s just as low as Kelly the first Street Urchin! And he's actually LOWER because at least Kelly was up front with her evilness whereas ANDY was going to keep forever quiet about this while letting these people continue to care for him. EVIL!

The fact that he was just going to let this go is wrong on so many levels. These women have been nothing but good to him, let him hang around them all the time because he’s a friendless Urchin and they took him in and let him practically live under their roof like one of their own.

And this is how he pays one of them back?! DEAD TO ME FOREVER!

Natalie wants justice (who wouldn't?!) but what’s so weird and unbelievable, is the core 3 are all like “just let it go”. WTF?! Are they all PODS this week?! Even Jo, who’s always out for justice is saying it’s not worth it. It’s like the Twilight Zone here. Seriously! They do say they’ll stick behind her no matter what...but it’s half hearted and they continue to act like they think she’s the wrong one here...."But we're behind you anyway." WOW is all I can say to that! Some friends...or should I say PODS!

THEN when Natalie does attempt to make peace with the woman at Beverly Ann’s advice, the woman is even worse than before and she outright admits her theft and practically DARES Natalie to sue her while she's all evil and gleeful about it! All that was missing was a wicked laugh! What a hateful old bat she was. Just a terrible human being!

But Natalie has had enough and turns into a POD herself and gives this pathetic speech how it’s affecting and changing her and that suing is not worth it as long as she knows she’s right dammit! So she’s dropping the lawsuit and letting this evil witch keep her $500 that Andy helped spend btw...and she's going to take the high road. POD POD POD!! :

All I can say to that is good luck Natalie if you want to join the world of publishing. With that wimpy attitude, you’ll NEVER make it. Now I get Natalie is supposed to be this nice person, but we’ve always seen she has a backbone and fights for justice when she sees wrongdoing. She doesn't just lay down and die....unless she's a POD!

It’s astonishing how easily she caves in here and also how her friends think she’s wrong for pursuing this. Especially Jo who’s always been a stickler for defending the underdog. I don’t care if you’re old...that’s no excuse nor does it make you special. Wrong is wrong...and the fact that this crabby old EVIL lady actually rubbed it in to Nat's face makes it even worse because she’s using her age to make others feel too sorry to sue her. It’s diabolical!

UGH. It’s still a good episode and I liked it, but how they portrayed Natalie as such a doormat POD and that evil, disgusting Street Urchin (who is DEAD to me forever!) backstabbing people who took care of him was unbelievable!

A few other observations on a lighter note. I thought we were gonna finally meet Dead Street Urchin’s parents in this one and learn why he’s always hanging around these 5 women. Apparently they’re off in Europe and he’s with Evil crabby witch of a grandmother. I don't blame his parent's for wanting to get away from this evil kid. I'd flee to the other side of the world too.

Beverly makes mention when talking with Evil Witch Grandmother, that she wants to talk “Guardian to Guardian”. What the hell did she mean by that? She wasn’t Dead Street Urchin’s guardian at that point, so it makes no sense. Beverly Ann was no one’s guardian here so it was weird to say.

We see the piano being placed by the stairs for the first time. Now where the heck did the big bench go?! Into the garage between the 2 front doors? I kinda miss that big ugly thing, but I have to say, the piano does look much better there. Good episode and made me hate Street Urchin FOREVER!

“Seven Little Indians”

I knew the gist of this episode from talk here and I was really looking forward to it….until I seen it. All I have to say is Oh. My. God. It’s THE ABSOLUTE WORST EPISODE of the entire series! The WORST! It’s SO terrible it needs to be buried and never to see the light of day again! I don’t even have much to say except that it’s boring, badly acted, and just terrible all around.

I get they wanted to have some campy fun here, but while the idea sounds great...the execution was so bad. I mean…..BAD! I found myself bored by it when I felt like I should be enjoying it. I think it could’ve been done much better than it was. Truck Stop was done under the same concept and that was pulled off nicely....this fell flatter than Jo's pizza!

And why is it ALWAYS Blair being the killer in these dream/fantasy episodes? Never Tootie, Jo or Nat?! In Truck Stop I believe it was Blair then….and in Mrs. G’s dream...Blair is the murderer again….and now here….always Blair lol. Blair Blair Blair! Shake things up a bit and make someone else the killer for a change!

I see they gave Blair her season 7 hair back in that final scene LOL!!

And the only part that I really enjoyed was this-----A giant Leon kills Jo! :l

Hello again cfr1970 and i kind of got a suggestion for you: maybe we should contact the FOL writers (i know it's been over 40 years since FOL) and ask them WHY do they keep turning BLAIR into either a POD or a KILLER????:mad::mad::mad:

I watched the episode tonight 'BALLROOM DANCE' and found it very BORING!!!!

For instance, it was very DISTURBING for me, seeing the worst version ever of BLAIR as a POD: just watching that scene where she dances with GEORGE made me CRINGE!!!! Why do they have her acting like a BRAINLESS AIRHEAD??? Can you maybe explain that?
I mean, just watching the early seasons, you realize how much BLAIR is beginning to grow under MRS G's supervision, but of course: now even MRS G is a POD! (although on this episode she reverts back to her normal self).

It really saddens me to see the writers turn BLAIR into a CLOWN, and if i were LISA WHELCHEL i would have never let anyone belittle me that way as a character: BLAIR is supposed to be one of the main ones, and in my understanding you ONLY do that kind of things with a 'guest' character (such as BOOTSIE was) but you NEVER turn a main character into a CLONE or CLOWN of what they originally were!!! It's against the rules lol!

You know, i am now still having a rerun on FOL, and so far i have to say: season 4 is one of my favourite (after season 1).
I love how much BLAIR has grown by then, and she shows a sensitivity she didn't have during season 2 + 3.
I also love, how tight the 'core of 5 ' (MRS G is one of them) have become: (something you don't see on season 7) the girls are so much like sisters and look up to MRS G as a surrogate mother indeed....
There is so much DEPTH on season 4 and lots of MRS G episodes with each one of her girls (unlike season 7 where everyone is a STRANGER!).

On 'Ballroom dancing' episode, what really BUGGED me too, is seeing TOOTIE and NAT act irritating towards POD BLAIR's little dancing scene with GEORGE when she makes does weird noises while dancing: it was as if TOOTIE and NAT were EMBARRASSED by BLAIR and couldn't wait for her to leave!
As i said to you, i pay very much attention to every detail and TOTALLY read between the lines!

On another note: i don't really remember the episodes you watched, but i can see that you now really HATE street Urchin ANDY!!!!

So what'd you say: shall we all make a PETITION against the writers for treating BLAIR so bad?

PS: do you really think LISA is reading this board?:lol:

:bash::bash::bash:

80s Dude

04-30-2020, 06:52 PM

Hello again cfr1970 and i kind of got a suggestion for you: maybe we should contact the FOL writers (i know it's been over 40 years since FOL) and ask them WHY do they keep turning BLAIR into either a POD or a KILLER????:mad::mad::mad:

I watched the episode tonight 'BALLROOM DANCE' and found it very BORING!!!!

For instance, it was very DISTURBING for me, seeing the worst version ever of BLAIR as a POD: just watching that scene where she dances with GEORGE made me CRINGE!!!! Why do they have her acting like a BRAINLESS AIRHEAD??? Can you maybe explain that?
I mean, just watching the early seasons, you realize how much BLAIR is beginning to grow under MRS G's supervision, but of course: now even MRS G is a POD! (although on this episode she reverts back to her normal self).

It really saddens me to see the writers turn BLAIR into a CLOWN, and if i were LISA WHELCHEL i would have never let anyone belittle me that way as a character: BLAIR is supposed to be one of the main ones, and in my understanding you ONLY do that kind of things with a 'guest' character (such as BOOTSIE was) but you NEVER turn a main character into a CLONE or CLOWN of what they originally were!!! It's against the rules lol!

You know, i am now still having a rerun on FOL, and so far i have to say: season 4 is one of my favourite (after season 1).
I love how much BLAIR has grown by then, and she shows a sensitivity she didn't have during season 2 + 3.
I also love, how tight the 'core of 5 ' (MRS G is one of them) have become: (something you don't see on season 7) the girls are so much like sisters and look up to MRS G as a surrogate mother indeed....
There is so much DEPTH on season 4 and lots of MRS G episodes with each one of her girls (unlike season 7 where everyone is a STRANGER!).

On 'Ballroom dancing' episode, what really BUGGED me too, is seeing TOOTIE and NAT act irritating towards POD BLAIR's little dancing scene with GEORGE when she makes does weird noises while dancing: it was as if TOOTIE and NAT were EMBARRASSED by BLAIR and couldn't wait for her to leave!
As i said to you, i pay very much attention to every detail and TOTALLY read between the lines!

On another note: i don't really remember the episodes you watched, but i can see that you now really HATE street Urchin ANDY!!!!

So what'd you say: shall we all make a PETITION against the writers for treating BLAIR so bad?

PS: do you really think LISA is reading this board?:lol:

:bash::bash::bash:

Blair became more of an airhead in the late seasons. She became an airhead lawyer and then became an airhead headmistress.

Lorimar Television

04-30-2020, 06:57 PM

7LI is a dream halloween Twilight zone parody. It's cute, obviously not canon to the actual show.

valentina warner

05-01-2020, 05:37 PM

Agree with you, Valentina! Mrs. Garrett is the surrogate mother, the mentor, friend and confidant of the Core Four, Beverly Ann is a friend.
The producers did a wonderful job with the two characters, they have two different personalities and roles, Beverly Ann isn't a carbon copy of Mrs. Garrett. They are both funny but we know that Edna Garrett is irreplaceable and Beverly Ann knows it, in fact she didn't try to replace her sister.
About season 7, I know it's a weak season compared to the other years for multiple reasons, but season 8 is a great solid season, you'll miss Mrs. G but watching the episodes you realize what a great impact she had on her girls.
Season 9 contains several good episodes.

Hello [B]FOL-FAN-ITA and thank you for agreeing with me!:wave:

I've been watching season 7, and as you said it is very WEAK and the characters behave like strangers to one another: for instance, i don't see any warmth coming up from MRS G towards her girls, ANDY is a pain on the neck, and BLAIR has turned into a CLONE/POD of what she used to be!!!! (she keeps behaving like an 'AIRHEAD', and that is not the REAL BLAIR, no way):mad::mad::mad:

On the other hand, the stories are all so STUPID, and there is absolutely no DEPTH in them!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

When i think about the earlier seasons (especially 4 to 6) the girls and MRS G have bonded so well and have become a real tight family...
We don't see that at all in season 7: for me it is just a 'funny/comedy' sitcom like any other, but not what FOL is really all about!
The girls have suddenly weird hobbies: JO as a 'BALLROOM DANCER', NAT has two jobs 'AEROBIC TEACHER' and she works in a 'MORGUE'????
BLAIR has absolutely hardly any interaction with anyone,
And MRS G has been turned into a WALLPAPER!!!! (no more 'heart to heart' talks and advice for her girls)......

PS: i really hope as everyone is saying here on this thread, that season 8 will have improved, and that we will finally have the REAL BLAIR back and shove the 'STEPFORD WIFE POD BLAIR' away in the basement!!

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

'80sSitcoms

05-01-2020, 07:49 PM

valentina warner

05-01-2020, 07:56 PM

Yes, WHERE R U cfr1970????

Lorimar Television

05-01-2020, 10:53 PM

Hope you are alright cfr!

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 09:18 AM

Hope you are alright cfr!

Yes, WHERE R U cfr1970????

Hi all and thanks!:wave:

All is fine...yesterday was very hectic and I had to miss my Facts. :eek:

But no worries, with the dvd's coming I can just watch the missed episodes when they get here. They've already shipped from Texas so should arrive any day!...(Maybe they're coming from Lisa herself? :lol:)

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 09:26 AM

cfr, some of us have noticed you have been absent since your review of "Seven Little Indians". We are afraid you have been unable to stop the projectile vomiting after seeing that episode and you have had to be hospitalized and are now on a steady stream of IV fluids.

If that's true, we're pulling for you! :grouphug: We'll send a cyber get well card if we have to! :heart:

Hang in there and come back to us when they erase all traces of it from your memory!

:wave:

Seven Little Indians is enough to have any watcher flee for the hills screaming. It's the worst episode that I will never tune into again. I'll watch Brian & Sylvia and Jazzbeau 10 times over before viewing SLI again.

valentina warner

05-02-2020, 02:18 PM

Hi all and thanks!

All is fine...yesterday was very hectic and I had to miss my Facts.

But no worries, with the dvd's coming I can just watch the missed episodes when they get here. They've already shipped from Texas so should arrive any day!...(Maybe they're coming from Lisa herself?

Hello cfr1970 and very glad you're okay!:wave:

I watched 'TOOTIE DRIVES' yesterday, and sorry to disappoint you, but i was very BORED at it!!! (i guess i don't drive and never took any driving licence test when i was a teeny like you did, so the episode seemed irrelevant to me.....:rolleyes:

And the fact that BLAIR still continues to behave like a STEPFORD WIFE POT/CLONE of herself is very disturbing for me!!!!
I really HATE the writers for keeping the other 3 girls intact, and having a go at either BLAIR or MRS G!!! (although this time our feisty red haired was normal).

I see what you mean about ANDY/STREET URCHIN too: he REALLY is getting on my nerves too (please come back GEORGE cos you're okay!) following MRS G everywhere and i suspect she doesn't even 'like' him that much!!!:mad:

Let's just say that MRS G never had the same kind of bond/chemistry with your 'darling' STREET URCHIN kid, the way BEVERLY ANN did (from what i remember, she not only adopted ANDY, but the two of them hit it off right from the beginning!):D:

Whats more: the episodes from season 7 i watched watched so far, are ABSURD and have no DEPTH at all! (i can hardly wait until season 8 begins with BEVERLY ANN lol).
JO suddenly takes 'BALLROOM DANCE' (very unlike her) and NAT has 2 jobs "AEROBIC DANCER' and 'MORTICIAN'??? What the hell?
I could understand if TOOTIE was taking 'Ballroom dance' (after all, she is the ROMANTIC one on FOL).

You know, i'v been watching season 4 at the same time (during the day it's season 4 and at night season 7) and i am LOVING it a lot more than i remember: each episode has DEPTH, and MRS G and her girls have bonded so nicely, and one BONUS of all is how BLAIR has grown so much and is showing to be the most SENSITIVE of them all!!!!:):

By season 5, BLAIR is still showing maturity, but she has her 'ups and down' with MRS G: on the one episode 'Gamma gamma' she behaves like a SPOILED BRAT (but i'm blaming BOOTSIE for it!):lol::lol::lol: although in the end she apologizes, moves in with MRS G and the girls, and they make up! Wow! Great and very touching episode, and of course it's GOODBYE with her friendship with BOOTSIE ha ha!

Anyway, i really CANNOT wait until you start quoting us on FOL SEASON 1: the 'LOST GIRLS' experience.......:p:

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

PS: is LISA really shipping them?
ARE YOU READING US LISA????;);

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 03:38 PM

Hello cfr1970 and very glad you're okay!:wave:

I watched 'TOOTIE DRIVES' yesterday, and sorry to disappoint you, but i was very BORED at it!!! (i guess i don't drive and never took any driving licence test when i was a teeny like you did, so the episode seemed irrelevant to me.....:rolleyes:

And the fact that BLAIR still continues to behave like a STEPFORD WIFE POT/CLONE of herself is very disturbing for me!!!!
I really HATE the writers for keeping the other 3 girls intact, and having a go at either BLAIR or MRS G!!! (although this time our feisty red haired was normal).

I see what you mean about ANDY/STREET URCHIN too: he REALLY is getting on my nerves too (please come back GEORGE cos you're okay!) following MRS G everywhere and i suspect she doesn't even 'like' him that much!!!:mad:

Let's just say that MRS G never had the same kind of bond/chemistry with your 'darling' STREET URCHIN kid, the way BEVERLY ANN did (from what i remember, she not only adopted ANDY, but the two of them hit it off right from the beginning!):D:

Whats more: the episodes from season 7 i watched watched so far, are ABSURD and have no DEPTH at all! (i can hardly wait until season 8 begins with BEVERLY ANN lol).
JO suddenly takes 'BALLROOM DANCE' (very unlike her) and NAT has 2 jobs "AEROBIC DANCER' and 'MORTICIAN'??? What the hell?
I could understand if TOOTIE was taking 'Ballroom dance' (after all, she is the ROMANTIC one on FOL).

You know, i'v been watching season 4 at the same time (during the day it's season 4 and at night season 7) and i am LOVING it a lot more than i remember: each episode has DEPTH, and MRS G and her girls have bonded so nicely, and one BONUS of all is how BLAIR has grown so much and is showing to be the most SENSITIVE of them all!!!!:):

By season 5, BLAIR is still showing maturity, but she has her 'ups and down' with MRS G: on the one episode 'Gamma gamma' she behaves like a SPOILED BRAT (but i'm blaming BOOTSIE for it!):lol::lol::lol: although in the end she apologizes, moves in with MRS G and the girls, and they make up! Wow! Great and very touching episode, and of course it's GOODBYE with her friendship with BOOTSIE ha ha!

Anyway, i really CANNOT wait until you start quoting us on FOL SEASON 1: the 'LOST GIRLS' experience.......:p:

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

PS: is LISA really shipping them?
ARE YOU READING US LISA????;);

Aw, i'm sorry you don't like "Tootie Drives". I think it's a great episode and funny too! In Kim Field's book, she even says it's one of her favorites too. OH well, I guess we all can't like the same episodes.

Season 7 has it's good and bad episodes...and a couple of real stinkers that I hate, but I don't think it's all that bad. It did veer into banal sitcom territory and I prefer the deeper stories like when the girls were growing up during the Eastland/Edibles years.

I'd happily watch season 7 again, but skip a few episodes. Season 8 that i'm on now i'm really liking and I see why people say it's back to what it was before 7. I missed Friday's 2 episodes, but i'll watch those when the dvd's come.

And of course Lisa didn't ship them lol. I hope you didn't think I was serious! I only said that because she's from Texas and that's where the dvd's are coming from.

If Lisa were shipping them, i'd want them autographed with her BRILLIANT signature! :lol::wave:

valentina warner

05-02-2020, 05:46 PM

Aw, i'm sorry you don't like "Tootie Drives". I think it's a great episode and funny too! In Kim Field's book, she even says it's one of her favorites too. OH well, I guess we all can't like the same episodes.

Season 7 has it's good and bad episodes...and a couple of real stinkers that I hate, but I don't think it's all that bad. It did veer into banal sitcom territory and I prefer the deeper stories like when the girls were growing up during the Eastland/Edibles years.

I'd happily watch season 7 again, but skip a few episodes. Season 8 that i'm on now i'm really liking and I see why people say it's back to what it was before 7. I missed Friday's 2 episodes, but i'll watch those when the dvd's come.

And of course Lisa didn't ship them lol. I hope you didn't think I was serious! I only said that because she's from Texas and that's where the dvd's are coming from.

If Lisa were shipping them, i'd want them autographed with her BRILLIANT signature! :lol::wave:

Hey i know LISA didn't ship the DVDs: i was only kidding you!:lol::lol::lol:

Anyway, i'm really glad you're getting your DVDs real soon, and from Texas too ha ha!
And talking about DVDs, do you know what i'v noticed: MRS G does not feature on the season 7 front page at all!!! (it's only GEORGE, STREET URCHIN KID & the girls)????
Oh well, i guess CHARLOTTE RAE wanted very badly to leave lol!:eek::eek::eek:

:wasntme::wasntme::wasntme:

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 05:55 PM

Hey i know LISA didn't ship the DVDs: i was only kidding you!:lol::lol::lol:

Anyway, i'm really glad you're getting your DVDs real soon, and from Texas too ha ha!
And talking about DVDs, do you know what i'v noticed: MRS G does not feature on the season 7 front page at all!!! (it's only GEORGE, STREET URCHIN KID & the girls)????
Oh well, i guess CHARLOTTE RAE wanted very badly to leave lol!:eek::eek::eek:

:wasntme::wasntme::wasntme:

And on the season 9 dvd cover they knock off Beverly in favor of that Muppet Haired Pimmpa. (I know you like her, but I just can't see myself being a fan of her, especially if she hooks up with Street Urchin who I will just completely ignore from now on because he's dead to me and serves no purpose on the show except to annoy.)

valentina warner

05-02-2020, 06:11 PM

And on the season 9 dvd cover they knock off Beverly in favor of that Muppet Haired Pimmpa. (I know you like her, but I just can't see myself being a fan of her, especially if she hooks up with Street Urchin who I will just completely ignore from now on because he's dead to me and serves no purpose on the show except to annoy.)

I drink to that cheers!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

PS: the name is PIPPA, and she's really not half as bad as STREET URCHIN! (in any case, HE is the one after her lol):rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

'80sSitcoms

05-02-2020, 06:24 PM

Seven Little Indians is enough to have any watcher flee for the hills screaming. It's the worst episode that I will never tune into again. I'll watch Brian & Sylvia and Jazzbeau 10 times over before viewing SLI again.

Did you see my response to you after that episode? I'm still in shock you loathe it with every fiber of your being.

Here's what I said in case you missed it:

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“Write and Wrong” or “Natalie the Doormat”

I skip this episode from now on, and you reminded me exactly why, lol. I mean I knew the basics of why I didn't like it, but yeah. I hate what happens to Natalie and how she doesn't try to make it right.

I think I solved the garage mystery!! That elusive garage is BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the fireplace wall! When Beverly Ann took George out of the 2nd door that Blair walked through in The Chain Letter, we saw the bushes outside like it was a walkway, the same as when Blair walked into it.

Then we saw Beverly Ann and George take a left turn towards the garage! Now logically they would’ve taken the FIRST front door to it if it was all the way towards the back of the house by the patio doors right? But since they took the 2nd door there, it only proves that the garage has to logically be BETWEEN the two front doors and behind the wall of the fireplace!! The mystery is SOLVED! Hooray!!....Right? RIGHT?! I mean, it's the ONLY explanation that makes sense!!

I'm afraid not, cfr. The garage is a weird acid-trip Twilight Zone object. There are so many different implied or shown locations, that it just cannot be "anywhere" that makes sense for all the doors/buildings shown. I still like to assume B.A. and G head out the door and go along the house's front to the garage at the back where we saw that building in "The Wedding Day", but then they "move" the garage to the other end of the front of the house in season 9 so aaaaaggghhhh :wallbang

“Seven Little Indians”

I knew the gist of this episode from talk here and I was really looking forward to it….until I seen it. All I have to say is Oh. My. God. It’s THE ABSOLUTE WORST EPISODE of the entire series! The WORST! It’s SO terrible it needs to be buried and never to see the light of day again! I don’t even have much to say except that it’s boring, badly acted, and just terrible all around.

I get they wanted to have some campy fun here, but while the idea sounds great...the execution was so bad. I mean…..BAD! I found myself bored by it when I felt like I should be enjoying it. I think it could’ve been done much better than it was. Truck Stop was done under the same concept and that was pulled off nicely....this fell flatter than Jo's pizza! :lol:

And why is it ALWAYS Blair being the killer in these dream/fantasy episodes? Never Tootie, Jo or Nat?! In Truck Stop I believe it was Blair then….and in Mrs. G’s dream...Blair is the murderer again….and now here….always Blair lol. Blair Blair Blair! Shake things up a bit and make someone else the killer for a change!

I see they gave Blair her season 7 hair back in that final scene LOL!!

And the only part that I really enjoyed was this-----A giant Leon kills Jo! :lol:

:eek2:

WOW.

I am SHOCKED.

ASTOUNDED.

STUNNED.

I can't believe you didn't enjoy this episode. I thought you would think it was a hoot! For Pete's sakes, George and Urchin end up DEAD in this dream, and I thought you would be partying your house down! :lol: Not to mention Beverly Ann too when you were "doggin' on her" for several weeks there, lol (though you've turned around now). And you can't really say "badly acted" if you also say you know it was "campy". That was the point, for them to let go and have fun being over the top because they were being broad and not taking themselves too seriously by doing a campy parody of those '80s slasher films.

Plus, you love "The Twilight Zone"! So I thought you'd love that they did a parody of it! popcorn: lol

Also: "Tootie :grineyes:".

:lol:

WOW...it's gonna take me hours to process the fact that you were NOT entertained by this one! lol

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But if you never enjoy it, oh well! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-02-2020, 06:28 PM

And on the season 9 dvd cover they knock off Beverly in favor of that Muppet Haired Pimmpa.

Hey now! Don't go insulting Muppets! :lol:

Lorimar Television

05-02-2020, 06:54 PM

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 07:16 PM

No they never hook up

Well I hear they shared a bedroom....things happen! :lol::wave:

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 07:23 PM

Did you see my response to you after that episode? I'm still in shock you loathe it with every fiber of your being.

Here's what I said in case you missed it:

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I skip this episode from now on, and you reminded me exactly why, lol. I mean I knew the basics of why I didn't like it, but yeah. I hate what happens to Natalie and how she doesn't try to make it right.

It's a terrible episode because for one, it shows Natalie being a pushover and she was never like that, two, it shows her best friends seeing what happened and advising her to drop it, and three, it shows Andy being incredibly deceitful and without any intention of coming clean about it....and even after the truth is out, he tells Nat he's off to help his grandma spend that $500 that belonged to Natalie. What a thieving little bastard!

I'm afraid not, cfr. The garage is a weird acid-trip Twilight Zone object. There are so many different implied or shown locations, that it just cannot be "anywhere" that makes sense for all the doors/buildings shown. I still like to assume B.A. and G head out the door and go along the house's front to the garage at the back where we saw that building in "The Wedding Day", but then they "move" the garage to the other end of the front of the house in season 9 so aaaaaggghhhh :

Just to keep my sanity about it, i'm sticking with the garage being behind the fireplace. It's a nice place to imagine it to be and i'm sticking with it no matter what else I see that makes no sense! :lol:

:eek2:

WOW.

I am SHOCKED.

ASTOUNDED.

STUNNED.

I can't believe you didn't enjoy this episode. I thought you would think it was a hoot! For Pete's sakes, George and Urchin end up DEAD in this dream, and I thought you would be partying your house down! :lol: Not to mention Beverly Ann too when you were "doggin' on her" for several weeks there, lol (though you've turned around now). And you can't really say "badly acted" if you also say you know it was "campy". That was the point, for them to let go and have fun being over the top because they were being broad and not taking themselves too seriously by doing a campy parody of those '80s slasher films.

Plus, you love "The Twilight Zone"! So I thought you'd love that they did a parody of it! popcorn: lol

Also: "Tootie :grineyes:".

:lol:

WOW...it's gonna take me hours to process the fact that you were NOT entertained by this one! lol

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But if you never enjoy it, oh well! :lol:

I love Truck Stop though which was done in the same vein. It was a campy fantasy with bad acting...but it was fun and also funny. This 7 Little Indian mess was just bad imo. I didn't laugh and was bored watching it.

And that Rod Serling dopplegagner saying "Tootie" like it was the funniest thing ever....I wanted to punch him if he said it one more time...and then he did! AHHH! It was just bad.

And Blair the killer....again. YAWN. I prefer Truck Stop 10X over SLI!! :)

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 07:31 PM

I drink to that cheers!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

PS: the name is PIPPA, and she's really not half as bad as STREET URCHIN! (in any case, HE is the one after her lol):rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I know it's Pippa....I think it was either Retro or Lorimar who calls her Pimmpa and I like it so I stole it and call that too now.

With that awful hair I think I should call her bad Permpa instead. :lol:

valentina warner

05-02-2020, 07:45 PM

It's a terrible episode because for one, it shows Natalie being a pushover and she was never like that, two, it shows her best friends seeing what happened and advising her to drop it, and three, it shows Andy being incredibly deceitful and without any intention of coming clean about it....and even after the truth is out, he tells Nat he's off to help his grandma spend that $500 that belonged to Natalie. What a thieving little bastard!

Just to keep my sanity about it, i'm sticking with the garage being behind the fireplace. It's a nice place to imagine it to be and i'm sticking with it no matter what else I see that makes no sense! :lol:

I love Truck Stop though which was done in the same vein. It was a campy fantasy with bad acting...but it was fun and also funny. This 7 Little Indian mess was just bad imo. I didn't laugh and was bored watching it.

And that Rod Serling dopplegagner saying "Tootie" like it was the funniest thing ever....I wanted to punch him if he said it one more time...and then he did! AHHH! It was just bad.

And Blair the killer....again. YAWN. I prefer Truck Stop 10X over SLI!! :)

I absolutely agree with you cfr1970: 'Come back to the truck bus Natalie Green' is 1000 x better and it also has a TWILIGHT ZONE inspiration lol!;););)

And yes: BLAIR will ALWAYS be broadcast as the JOKE/KILLER on the FOL later seasons (whereas she was the main hero and the writers's favourite during the 'Lost girls era').
Don't ask why, but you know what my theory is: the NEW writers simply HATED the BLAIR character!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

:soapbox::soapbox::soapbox:

Lorimar Television

05-02-2020, 09:02 PM

Well I hear they shared a bedroom....things happen! :lol::wave:

Nope, they get their own seperate rooms split up in the OOH space in s9

cfr1970

05-02-2020, 09:58 PM

Nope, they get their own seperate rooms split up in the OOH space in s9

Well they could've made visits to each other's rooms in the middle of the night. :love:

'80sSitcoms

05-03-2020, 01:09 AM

It's a terrible episode because for one, it shows Natalie being a pushover and she was never like that, two, it shows her best friends seeing what happened and advising her to drop it, and three, it shows Andy being incredibly deceitful and without any intention of coming clean about it....and even after the truth is out, he tells Nat he's off to help his grandma spend that $500 that belonged to Natalie. What a thieving little bastard!

Yes, I despite all of that.

Just to keep my sanity about it, i'm sticking with the garage being behind the fireplace. It's a nice place to imagine it to be and i'm sticking with it no matter what else I see that makes no sense! :lol:

Good luck with that! :lol: ;)

I love Truck Stop though which was done in the same vein. It was a campy fantasy with bad acting...but it was fun and also funny. This 7 Little Indian mess was just bad imo. I didn't laugh and was bored watching it.

That's funny 'cause I don't really care to watch TS. :lol: I like how in SLI Tootie's dreaming they're still themselves.

I personally love this little moment:

Beverly Ann: "The thing is now to wonder how she will next choose to strike: A gun...a knife..." "...poison---" [looks down at cup and then back up] "oh dear. :eek:" :lol:

You still don't get any pleasure they "offed" George. Again, SHOCKED. :lol:

And that Rod Serling dopplegagner saying "Tootie" like it was the funniest thing ever....I wanted to punch him if he said it one more time...and then he did! AHHH! It was just bad.

:lol:

[QUOTE=valentina warner;5731382]I absolutely agree with you [B]cfr1970: 'Come back to the truck bus Natalie Green' is 1000 x better and it also has a TWILIGHT ZONE inspiration lol!;););)

SLI parodies TZ, but Truck Stop is inspired by the movie "Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean."

'80sSitcoms

05-03-2020, 01:10 AM

Well they could've made visits to each other's rooms in the middle of the night. :love:

You're really pullin' for the Aussie and the urchin to get it on! :lol:

RetroGuy2000

05-03-2020, 01:17 AM

I know it's Pippa....I think it was either Retro or Lorimar who calls her Pimmpa and I like it so I stole it and call that too now.

With that awful hair I think I should call her bad Permpa instead. :lol:

"Permpa" is hilarious! Well done! :lol:

I don't think Lorimar's ever called her Pimppa. TV Guy originated Pimppa, so I can't take credit.

cfr1970

05-03-2020, 10:53 AM

That's funny 'cause I don't really care to watch TS. :lol: I like how in SLI Tootie's dreaming they're still themselves.

I personally love this little moment:

Beverly Ann: "The thing is now to wonder how she will next choose to strike: A gun...a knife..." [B.A. drinks cocoa] "...poison---" [looks down at cup and then back up] "oh dear. :eek:" :lol:

You still don't get any pleasure they "offed" George. Again, SHOCKED. :lol:

Well it was only a dream! It's not like he was really killed off the show. That I would've taken great pleasure in. And by this time George has been already pretty much kicked off the show so his presence doesn't bother me anymore and his scenes are thankfully limited.

It's funny you don't like Truck Stop! I think it was done more clever with Natalie writing the story as it goes along and making changes along the way to the surprise of the characters lol.

Maybe SLI would've worked better as a Haloween episode as Retro said earlier. The fact they aired it in on January 3rd was weird, but it also made sense because right after New Years is the slump time of the TV season and I doubt they'd want to air this stinker during a holiday or sweeps month. :lol:

cfr1970

05-03-2020, 10:56 AM

You're really pullin' for the Aussie and the urchin to get it on! :lol:

I'll pull for anything to get that lying, thieving little urchin away from the Core Four! They've effectively turned him into a male Kelly.

cfr1970

05-03-2020, 10:59 AM

"Permpa" is hilarious! Well done! :lol:

I don't think Lorimar's ever called her Pimppa. TV Guy originated Pimppa, so I can't take credit.

I remember someone here put a little trademark next to the name Pimmpa. If it wasn't Lorimar, then it had to be TV Guy?

If her hair stays as hideous as it is on the season 9 dvd box for all of season 9, that's what i'll call her forever---Permpa! :lol::lol:

Lorimar Television

05-03-2020, 03:33 PM

I'll pull for anything to get that lying, thieving little urchin away from the Core Four! They've effectively turned him into a male Kelly.

I wouldnt go that far, but sorry hes on the show til the end. :(

cfr1970

05-03-2020, 03:53 PM

I wouldnt go that far, but sorry hes on the show til the end. :(

Well Kelly tried to extort money from Edna's Edibles and Andy knew his grandmother earned $500 from Natalie's story that was rightfully hers. So while Kelly tried to steal from the girls, Andy actually succeeded, so he's worse in my eyes.

Had the writers made him try and get the money from his grandmother to give to Natalie, or even half of it, it would've made things better. But they didn't so they must've wanted viewers to dislike him after that because how can anyone think this was ok?!

And he showed absolutely no guilt about it either since they had him actually TELL Natalie he was about to shopping with his grandmother to spend the $500. It's like the writers made him all smug about it by rubbing it in her face! It's just evil. :angryfire

Hopefully his scenes are short for the rest of the run and I can just try and ignore him and count the days till I start the series from the beginning again. :lol: :wave:

80s Dude

05-03-2020, 04:35 PM

valentina warner

05-03-2020, 06:13 PM

Well Kelly tried to extort money from Edna's Edibles and Andy knew his grandmother earned $500 from Natalie's story that was rightfully hers. So while Kelly tried to steal from the girls, Andy actually succeeded, so he's worse in my eyes.

Had the writers made him try and get the money from his grandmother to give to Natalie, or even half of it, it would've made things better. But they didn't so they must've wanted viewers to dislike him after that because how can anyone think this was ok?!

And he showed absolutely no guilt about it either since they had him actually TELL Natalie he was about to shopping with his grandmother to spend the $500. It's like the writers made him all smug about it by rubbing it in her face! It's just evil. :angryfire

Hopefully his scenes are short for the rest of the run and I can just try and ignore him and count the days till I start the series from the beginning again. :lol: :wave:

Hey cfr1970!:wave:

You know very well my opinion about the writers on FOL: LAME with capital L!!!! They simply choose their victims to turn them into either PODS (such as BLAIR and MRS G) or LAZY/SLEAZY characters (ANDY)!!!!:mad:

Although i have to say, that today's episode 'STAKE OUT BLUES' wasn't all that bad.... They were no PODS at all it's a MIRACLE!!!!
MRS G behaved like the girls guardian, when she asks them (before heading to see her sister's place) "you don't need me anymore?"
In which BLAIR replies "We'll ALWAYS need you!" (isn't that sweet?):p::p:p

For once, the 'gang' was back to normal and BLAIR was really cute, when she tells JO "you like the cop..." (which by the way wasn't bad looking at all hee hee!);)

Even STREET URCHIN ANDY was adorable in this episode with the old couple (i think they wanted to adopt him hee hee).:D

PS: i really need to watch the episode where ANDY is 'TERRIBLE' (the one about the money) so i can give you a high 5 and see if i agree with you lol!:lol:

:wasntme::wasntme::wasntme:

cfr1970

05-03-2020, 06:37 PM

Hey cfr1970!:wave:

You know very well my opinion about the writers on FOL: LAME with capital L!!!! They simply choose their victims to turn them into either PODS (such as BLAIR and MRS G) or LAZY/SLEAZY characters (ANDY)!!!!:mad:

Although i have to say, that today's episode 'STAKE OUT BLUES' wasn't all that bad.... They were no PODS at all it's a MIRACLE!!!!
MRS G behaved like the girls guardian, when she asks them (before heading to see her sister's place) "you don't need me anymore?"
In which BLAIR replies "We'll ALWAYS need you!" (isn't that sweet?):p::p:p

For once, the 'gang' was back to normal and BLAIR was really cute, when she tells JO "you like the cop..." (which by the way wasn't bad looking at all hee hee!);)

Even STREET URCHIN ANDY was adorable in this episode with the old couple (i think they wanted to adopt him hee hee).:D

PS: i really need to watch the episode where ANDY is 'TERRIBLE' (the one about the money) so i can give you a high 5 and see if i agree with you lol!:lol:

:wasntme::wasntme::wasntme:

You seem to enjoy the episodes I call stinkers! :lol:

I didn't care for Stake Out Blues because it was pretty boring and like you say about season 7, it was banal sitcom stuff and not like earlier seasons where you had the girls learning life lessons.

I thought you'd feel the same way with this episode, but you have company with 80s'sitcoms who also wanted that doofus cop to hook up with Jo. puke:

He was such a terrible actor and Jo deserved better...though from what I hear about season 9, she unfortunately didn't. :lol::wave:

valentina warner

05-03-2020, 07:08 PM

You seem to enjoy the episodes I call stinkers! :lol:

I didn't care for Stake Out Blues because it was pretty boring and like you say about season 7, it was banal sitcom stuff and not like earlier seasons where you had the girls learning life lessons.

I thought you'd feel the same way with this episode, but you have company with 80s'sitcoms who also wanted that doofus cop to hook up with Jo. puke:

He was such a terrible actor and Jo deserved better...though from what I hear about season 9, she unfortunately didn't. :lol::wave:

I still don't think much of season 7: I only enjoyed the episodes (so far) 'Come back to the bus truck Natalie Green' and 'Stake out blues' in a 'fairly' amusing way, but nothing compared to the earlier seasons no way!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

And yes, RICK is even worse than JO's cop (in a very BORING way!!!)
In fact: BLAIR is luckier than JO in the men's department, when she ends up with the SOCIAL WORKER (who is a lot more entertaining and kind of cute too!):D:D:D

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 05:05 PM

“A Star is Torn”

It’s the return of Stacy Q’s doppelganger Cinnamon making another appearance to shamelessly sing the second song of her 2 hit wonder career “We Connect”! OH BOY! :crazy:

Blair was a POD in this episode. She goes to the door when Cinnamon knocks, recognizes her and asks if she was the same Cinnamon who “humiliated” Tootie in NYC? When she confirms that she is, Blair is all giddy with delight and says “Well come on in!” LOL....MEOW! HISS!

Did Tootie and Blair have a fight that was edited out for syndication or was she just being bitchy for the hell of it?! It was weird and kind of catty of her and Tootie doesn’t seem to even notice the dig.

Cinnamon comes inside and Tootie is thrilled to see the friend she threw her potential Broadway career away for a couple of months earlier. George and Andy act like they’ve never seen a pretty woman before and proceed to drool all over her until Tootie thankfully tells Andy “GO HOME!” Thank you Tootie!

Cinnamon tells everyone she got fired from Broadway and is unemployed and the gang lets her work in the shop to fill in for Jo and she tells them all how much she loves working retail selling inflatable penguins to people!

Jo is running the college radio station all night and going to class all day which is why Cinnamon is working in the shop. Is Jo really the ONLY person in the entire college that can run that station? The excuse is that the other people aren't showing up but it still makes no sense that Jo has to do this literally around the clock! :rolleyes:

Anyway, we learn in the end that it’s all a very convenient plot device for Stacy Q to sing her second hit wonder to all of Peekskill (and America). But before that can happen, Jo gets handed a copy of Cinnamon’s hot new album with all of her 2 hits on it.

Jo realizes she hit the big time after all and seems to be running away from it. Getting home she shows the album to Tootie to let her know the truth. So Jo IS a snitch after all! HA! I knew she had it in her! :angryfire

Tootie gets completely possessed...I mean like, completely over the top, Linda Blair possessed about it. She suddenly acts like an angry spirit has swooped inside her body and she spews pea soup all over poor Cinnamon for running away from her career when she’s busting her ass trying to make it. WOAH! Calm the hell down Tootie! She's insane here!

It’s all a little over the top and Tootie is WAY out of line with her words. I really wanted to see Cinnamon walk over and slap her but she just gets all hurt and wounded by Tootie’s incredibly harsh words before Tootie storms out in a bitchy possessed huff leaving regurgitated pea soup in her wake. Bad, bad Tootie! :smash:

The next day Tootie is no longer possessed and calmed down and feels guilty for lashing out at Cinnamon the day before. She has some weird radio play that she just HAPPENS to be doing at the radio station that Jo just HAPPENS to be running at the same time. How incredibly convenient!

But before we get to that, George tells the gang that he was fired by NBC and that he’s going fishing in Minnesota to lick his wounds. Everyone is all like “Have fun, bye” like they won’t even miss him LOL. I loved the whole scene. It’s like none of them gave a crap that he was leaving! :lol::lol:

Blair is again a total POD and playing with Cinnamon’s worms like they’re little pets and baby talking to them. (I already forgot the story, but Cinnamon apparently grew up on some worm farm somewhere and these were hers?) :confused:

Anyway, Blair has taken a liking to these worms for some odd reason and puts them in a shoebox and even gives them cutsey names like Vanderbilt and Rockefeller. This is definitely a POD Blair because regular Blair would not be talking to worms like they were cute little pets. In fact, real Blair wouldn’t even go near them! It’s silly and weird.

Moving along to the conclusion we go back to the radio station where we finally see what Tootie is doing in this head scratcher of a “play”. She stands there reading some monologue that would put anyone to sleep. Why this is playing on the radio as entertainment I have no idea….but it’s all just a plot device to get Cinnamon to the mic to sing her hit, so I try not to make any sense of it.

Tootie finally realizes she’s putting all of Peeksjkill to sleep with whatever the hell she’s reading and starts to tell her listeners what a possessed bitch she was the night before and how she hurt her friend and would do anything to make it right.

Just at that very moment Cinnamon conveniently enters and just happens to have her demo tape for Jo to pop in the radio dashboard as Tootie shoves the mic at her and tells her to sing! “We Connect” begins playing for all of Peekskill’s (and America’s) delight!. It’s all so incredibly contrived!

It’s an ok episode and I remember seeing it when it originally aired. Natalie’s hair is getting bigger and more out of control with the humongous amounts of aqua net. It’s a nice style, but hideous on her and I hate it.

Oh and George decides he’s gonna go on the road with Cinnamon to help her perform her 2 hits for the next year or so until her career hits a brick wall and she fades into 1980’s oblivion forever. He gives a final head tic for us to get nauseous over before taking them all out for pizza and we thankfully never ever see him or Cinnamon again. Good riddance!

“A Winter’s Tale”

UGH! I didn’t like this one. It was just dumb and I hated those guys sharing the cabin. I don’t even want to review it because it was all so stupid.

First of all, this is a Warner cabin so surely it would come equipped with bedrooms, 1,000 thread count sheets, jacuzzi’s and all the comforts of a Park Avenue Penthouse. But it’s conveniently only one room to be shared with the guys who are there as well because of a crazy sitcom plot device mixup. Just dumb.

Natalie still has that wild red hair, Jo is wearing an awful lot of colorful makeup and teased hair that is so not her. All that’s missing in that style she's wearing is a giant scrunchy. The styles are just getting wilder and more out of control with each episode!

And Blair is in ditzy mode because one of the guys very obviously comes onto her and puts his arms around her in the kitchen and she asks Jo later on if that means anything? Um...DUH! :rolleyes:

Turns out he fell in love with Blair because she flirts with everyone and Jo tells her it’s her fault for being like that with guys. Whatever Jo... it’s their fault, not hers. This has always been the way Blair is with people. It's just her personality.

But anyway, we learn later as she’s talking to a sleeping Beverly Ann that she does this for attention as if it’s some big secret reveal. I think everyone knew that already right? Maybe it’s the first time Blair actually admitted it to someone? Oh well, her secret is still safe as Beverly Ann heard nothing as she snored away.

The guy realizes he’s not in love with Blair after having a bizarre talk with Beverly Ann where she tells him her ex was mauled piece by piece by wild animals. There had to be a scene edited because why would she say that?! Her ex is alive right?! Why tell a story like that? :confused:

Anyway, morning thankfully comes and the snow is plowed away and the girls can move on to their new cabin and away from those annoying guys. It was a boring filler episode but thankfully there's no Andy, except for 30 seconds where he begs for them to take him to the cabin and to my relief, they refuse. It’s not my favorite episode but still nowhere near the atrocity that is Seven Little Indians! I guess i'd give it 5 stars out of 10 since the gang was all together.

RetroGuy2000

05-04-2020, 05:31 PM

Tell us how you really feel, CFR! :lol:

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 05:39 PM

Tell us how you really feel, CFR! :lol:

Ha! It's an easy show to just let loose on though! Especially the later seasons when things start to go haywire. :lol:

But I really want to know how everyone else feels now. I don't know how to do polls so i'm just going to ask everyone here....Do you LIKE Natalie's hair like this? Or do you think she's had she had better styles before? I just think it doesn't go with her face and prefer her style of season 7 instead.

RetroGuy2000

05-04-2020, 05:41 PM

I don't mind Natalie's hair, there. All the girls have sported WAY worse styles.

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 05:54 PM

I don't mind Natalie's hair, there. All the girls have sported WAY worse styles.

This is my favorite.

valentina warner

05-04-2020, 06:28 PM

“A Star is Torn”

It’s the return of Stacy Q’s doppelganger Cinnamon making another appearance to shamelessly sing the second song of her 2 hit wonder career “We Connect”! OH BOY!

Blair was a POD in this episode. She goes to the door when Cinnamon knocks, recognizes her and asks if she was the same Cinnamon who “humiliated” Tootie in NYC? When she confirms that she is, Blair is all giddy with delight and says “Well come on in!” LOL....MEOW! HISS!

Did Tootie and Blair have a fight that was edited out for syndication or was she just being bitchy for the hell of it?! It was weird and kind of catty of her and Tootie doesn’t seem to even notice the dig.

Cinnamon comes inside and Tootie is thrilled to see the friend she threw her potential Broadway career away for a couple of months earlier. George and Andy act like they’ve never seen a pretty woman before and proceed to drool all over her until Tootie thankfully tells Andy “GO HOME!” Thank you Tootie!

Cinnamon tells everyone she got fired from Broadway and is unemployed and the gang lets her work in the shop to fill in for Jo and she tells them all how much she loves working retail selling inflatable penguins to people!

Jo is running the college radio station all night and going to class all day which is why Cinnamon is working in the shop. Is Jo really the ONLY person in the entire college that can run that station? The excuse is that the other people aren't showing up but it still makes no sense that Jo has to do this literally around the clock! :

Anyway, we learn in the end that it’s all a very convenient plot device for Stacy Q to sing her second hit wonder to all of Peekskill (and America). But before that can happen, Jo gets handed a copy of Cinnamon’s hot new album with all of her 2 hits on it.

Jo realizes she hit the big time after all and seems to be running away from it. Getting home she shows the album to Tootie to let her know the truth. So Jo IS a snitch after all! HA! I knew she had it in her!

Tootie gets completely possessed...I mean like, completely over the top, Linda Blair possessed about it. She suddenly acts like an angry spirit has swooped inside her body and she spews pea soup all over poor Cinnamon for running away from her career when she’s busting her ass trying to make it. WOAH! Calm the hell down Tootie! She's insane here!

It’s all a little over the top and Tootie is WAY out of line with her words. I really wanted to see Cinnamon walk over and slap her but she just gets all hurt and wounded by Tootie’s incredibly harsh words before Tootie storms out in a bitchy possessed huff leaving regurgitated pea soup in her wake. Bad, bad Tootie!

The next day Tootie is no longer possessed and calmed down and feels guilty for lashing out at Cinnamon the day before. She has some weird radio play that she just HAPPENS to be doing at the radio station that Jo just HAPPENS to be running at the same time. How incredibly convenient!

But before we get to that, George tells the gang that he was fired by NBC and that he’s going fishing in Minnesota to lick his wounds. Everyone is all like “Have fun, bye” like they won’t even miss him LOL. I loved the whole scene. It’s like none of them gave a crap that he was leaving!

Blair is again a total POD and playing with Cinnamon’s worms like they’re little pets and baby talking to them. (I already forgot the story, but Cinnamon apparently grew up on some worm farm somewhere and these were hers?)

Anyway, Blair has taken a liking to these worms for some odd reason and puts them in a shoebox and even gives them cutsey names like Vanderbilt and Rockefeller. This is definitely a POD Blair because regular Blair would not be talking to worms like they were cute little pets. In fact, real Blair wouldn’t even go near them! It’s silly and weird.

Moving along to the conclusion we go back to the radio station where we finally see what Tootie is doing in this head scratcher of a “play”. She stands there reading some monologue that would put anyone to sleep. Why this is playing on the radio as entertainment I have no idea….but it’s all just a plot device to get Cinnamon to the mic to sing her hit, so I try not to make any sense of it.

Tootie finally realizes she’s putting all of Peeksjkill to sleep with whatever the hell she’s reading and starts to tell her listeners what a possessed bitch she was the night before and how she hurt her friend and would do anything to make it right.

Just at that very moment Cinnamon conveniently enters and just happens to have her demo tape for Jo to pop in the radio dashboard as Tootie shoves the mic at her and tells her to sing! “We Connect” begins playing for all of Peekskill’s (and America’s) delight!. It’s all so incredibly contrived!

It’s an ok episode and I remember seeing it when it originally aired. Natalie’s hair is getting bigger and more out of control with the humongous amounts of aqua net. It’s a nice style, but hideous on her and I hate it.

Oh and George decides he’s gonna go on the road with Cinnamon to help her perform her 2 hits for the next year or so until her career hits a brick wall and she fades into 1980’s oblivion forever. He gives a final head tic for us to get nauseous over before taking them all out for pizza and we thankfully never ever see him or Cinnamon again. Good riddance!

“A Winter’s Tale”

UGH! I didn’t like this one. It was just dumb and I hated those guys sharing the cabin. I don’t even want to review it because it was all so stupid.

First of all, this is a Warner cabin so surely it would come equipped with bedrooms, 1,000 thread count sheets, jacuzzi’s and all the comforts of a Park Avenue Penthouse. But it’s conveniently only one room to be shared with the guys who are there as well because of a crazy sitcom plot device mixup. Just dumb.

Natalie still has that wild red hair, Jo is wearing an awful lot of colorful makeup and teased hair that is so not her. All that’s missing in that style she's wearing is a giant scrunchy. The styles are just getting wilder and more out of control with each episode!

And Blair is in ditzy mode because one of the guys very obviously comes onto her and puts his arms around her in the kitchen and she asks Jo later on if that means anything? Um...DUH!

Turns out he fell in love with Blair because she flirts with everyone and Jo tells her it’s her fault for being like that with guys. Whatever Jo... it’s their fault, not hers. This has always been the way Blair is with people. It's just her personality.

But anyway, we learn later as she’s talking to a sleeping Beverly Ann that she does this for attention as if it’s some big secret reveal. I think everyone knew that already right? Maybe it’s the first time Blair actually admitted it to someone? Oh well, her secret is still safe as Beverly Ann heard nothing as she snored away.

The guy realizes he’s not in love with Blair after having a bizarre talk with Beverly Ann where she tells him her ex was mauled piece by piece by wild animals. There had to be a scene edited because why would she say that?! Her ex is alive right?! Why tell a story like that?

Anyway, morning thankfully comes and the snow is plowed away and the girls can move on to their new cabin and away from those annoying guys. It was a boring filler episode but thankfully there's no Andy, except for 30 seconds where he begs for them to take him to the cabin and to my relief, they refuse. It’s not my favorite episode but still nowhere near the atrocity that is Seven Little Indians! I guess i'd give it 5 stars out of 10 since the gang was all together.

Hello againcfr1970!:wave:

Now i'm hesitating whether to buy season 8 or not???
I mean, if BLAIR is going to keep behaving like a POD i seriously have my doubts it is a good idea......

As for everyone on this site: didn't you ALL said that in season 8 the girls were starting to behave and follow MRS G's footstep?
From what cfr1970 says about this episode, there is a lot to be desired: TOOTIE turns into LINDA BLAIR, JO is a FAKE and BLAIR has turned into THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT????:lol::lol::lol: (aka STEPFORD WIFE POD lol!) What the hell???

I do remember vaguely watching this episode with CINNAMON featuring on it, and i kept thinking: she's not that HOT for GEORGE and ANDY to act so over the moon for her!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

And yes, the scene when BLAIR asks CINNAMON in a sickly sweet voice: "are you the one who almost stole TOOTIE's part?" (or something like that)
And then CINNAMON nods with a grin on her face and has BLAIR WITCH answer, "well in that case, COME IN!" (something like that) was weird:p:p:p

As for the 'Winter tale' episode: i only like the scene when BLAIR confides in BEVERLY ANN that she had always paid too much attention to her appearance to get people to notice her, and then realize she's sound asleep!!!!:happyface:happyface

But i HATED the scene, when BLAIR WITCH PROJECT POD tells JO "how come you know so much about men? You must read a lot!"
And then you see how hurt JO is!!! (very very bad BLAIR POD!)

PS: will the REAL BLAIR come back, PLEASE???? (and let's shove the BLAIR WITCH PROJECT in the basement and lock it real hard)!!!

:crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 06:48 PM

Hello againcfr1970!:wave:

Now i'm hesitating whether to buy season 8 or not???
I mean, if BLAIR is going to keep behaving like a POD i seriously have my doubts it is a good idea......

As for everyone on this site: didn't you ALL said that in season 8 the girls were starting to behave and follow MRS G's footstep?
From what cfr1970 says about this episode, there is a lot to be desired: TOOTIE turns into LINDA BLAIR, JO is a FAKE and BLAIR has turned into THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT????:lol::lol::lol: (aka STEPFORD WIFE POD lol!) What the hell???

I do remember vaguely watching this episode with CINNAMON featuring on it, and i kept thinking: she's not that HOT for GEORGE and ANDY to act so over the moon for her!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

And yes, the scene when BLAIR asks CINNAMON in a sickly sweet voice: "are you the one who almost stole TOOTIE's part?" (or something like that)
And then CINNAMON nods with a grin on her face and has BLAIR WITCH answer, "well in that case, COME IN!" (something like that) was weird:p:p:p

As for the 'Winter tale' episode: i only like the scene when BLAIR confides in BEVERLY ANN that she had always paid too much attention to her appearance to get people to notice her, and then realize she's sound asleep!!!!

But i HATED the scene, when BLAIR WITCH PROJECT POD tells JO "how come you know so much about men? You must read a lot!"
And then you see how hurt JO is!!! (very very bad BLAIR POD!)

PS: will the REAL BLAIR come back, PLEASE???? (and let's shove the BLAIR WITCH PROJECT in the basement and lock it real hard)!!!

:crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

"THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT"!! :rofl:

I'm so stealing that for my reviews when it's POD Blair from now on. I love it! :lol:

And yeah, when she made that crack about Jo reading a lot to be the only way she knows about men was absurd since she's had as many serious guys as she did and knows just as much, if not more than Blair.

It seems she goes from catty to ditzy each episode. When she was baby talking to worms inside a shoebox like they were kittens was really off the deep end!

Lorimar Television

05-04-2020, 08:52 PM

This is my favorite.

Really? It’s kinda like Jo’s mullet :lol: I liked her s8 hair better

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 09:06 PM

Really? It’s kinda like Jo’s mullet :lol: I liked her s8 hair better

I wouldn't go that far. Jo's mullet was very different from Nat's season 7 hair! (and hideous). The look on Nancy M's face here seems to say she agrees lol. :lol::wave:

Lorimar Television

05-04-2020, 09:10 PM

I wouldn't go that far. Jo's mullet was very different from Nat's season 7 hair! (and hideous). The look on Nancy M's face here seems to say she agrees lol. :lol::wave:

:lol: Yeah Jo def has the worst hair followed by Blair in s7

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 09:22 PM

:lol: Yeah Jo def has the worst hair followed by Blair in s7

She had the exact same hairstyle as Flyman that they looked like twins when she was with him in Atlantic City. :lol:

Lorimar Television

05-04-2020, 09:30 PM

She had the exact same hairstyle as Flyman that they looked like twins when she was with him in Atlantic City. :lol:

:eek:

RetroGuy2000

05-04-2020, 10:31 PM

I wouldn't go that far. Jo's mullet was very different from Nat's season 7 hair! (and hideous). The look on Nancy M's face here seems to say she agrees lol. :lol::wave:

OMG!

:brent

'80sSitcoms

05-04-2020, 10:36 PM

Will someone PLEASE return POD cfr for real cfr?? :lol:

2 duds in a row for him! Wow!

“A Star is Torn”

It’s the return of Stacy Q’s doppelganger Cinnamon making another appearance to shamelessly sing the second song of her 2 hit wonder career “We Connect”! OH BOY! :crazy:

:lol:

Blair was a POD in this episode. She goes to the door when Cinnamon knocks, recognizes her and asks if she was the same Cinnamon who “humiliated” Tootie in NYC? When she confirms that she is, Blair is all giddy with delight and says “Well come on in!” LOL....MEOW! HISS!

Did Tootie and Blair have a fight that was edited out for syndication or was she just being bitchy for the hell of it?! It was weird and kind of catty of her and Tootie doesn’t seem to even notice the dig.

Hmm, maybe it was a bit of sarcasm---then again, maybe she was just thrilled to see a potential customer enter that dang store, lol.

Jo is running the college radio station all night and going to class all day which is why Cinnamon is working in the shop. Is Jo really the ONLY person in the entire college that can run that station? The excuse is that the other people aren't showing up but it still makes no sense that Jo has to do this literally around the clock!

Easy: Jo's so responsible and dependable. As long as she's there to cover for the call-outs and no-shows, they'll always have a DJ.

Jo realizes she hit the big time after all and seems to be running away from it. Getting home she shows the album to Tootie to let her know the truth. So Jo IS a snitch after all! HA! I knew she had it in her!

Haha! But, I think the point here is Jo sensed that Cinnamon was running away out of fear from something she really wanted.

Tootie gets completely possessed...I mean like, completely over the top, Linda Blair possessed about it. She suddenly acts like an angry spirit has swooped inside her body and she spews pea soup all over poor Cinnamon for running away from her career when she’s busting her ass trying to make it. WOAH! Calm the hell down Tootie! She's insane here!

Well she's nowhere near Jermaine Jackson level, lol. In fact, she doesn't even yell or scream at all, she just raises her voice. I myself enjoyed the nice "tell-off" and, being a creative type, I can totally empathize. As "juicy" as it is here to witness Tootie tell her off in front of her friends, you really do feel that huge awkwardness in the room when Cinnamon runs away crying. :lookaroun

It’s all a little over the top and Tootie is WAY out of line with her words.

I think she was in line with her words, but out of line with barking them at poor Cin in front of a group of strangers (to Cin).

Blair is again a total POD and playing with Cinnamon’s worms like they’re little pets and baby talking to them. (I already forgot the story, but Cinnamon apparently grew up on some worm farm somewhere and these were hers?) :confused:

Anyway, Blair has taken a liking to these worms for some odd reason and puts them in a shoebox and even gives them cutsey names like Vanderbilt and Rockefeller. This is definitely a POD Blair because regular Blair would not be talking to worms like they were cute little pets. In fact, real Blair wouldn’t even go near them! It’s silly and weird.

I think it's cute, lol. :)

Moving along to the conclusion we go back to the radio station where we finally see what Tootie is doing in this head scratcher of a “play”. She stands there reading some monologue that would put anyone to sleep. Why this is playing on the radio as entertainment I have no idea….

At a college radio station of all things.

Oh and George decides he’s gonna go on the road with Cinnamon to help her perform her 2 hits for the next year or so until her career hits a brick wall and she fades into 1980’s oblivion forever. He gives a final head tic for us to get nauseous over before taking them all out for pizza and we thankfully never ever see him or Cinnamon again. Good riddance!

:lol: :wave:

“A Winter’s Tale”

UGH! I didn’t like this one. It was just dumb and I hated those guys sharing the cabin. I don’t even want to review it because it was all so stupid.

And here I've been looking forward to your thoughts on this one for weeks, because I love it! It is the coziest episode of this entire series in all 9 seasons. CO-ZI-EST. :heart: :loveya: :heart: A ski cabin! In a blizzard! With people we love trapped with strangers! And there's a SOFABED!! OH I can't get enough of it!!

:bighug:

Just that premise makes me so nostalgic for "snow days" back in my boyhood. And we had a sofabed when I was a kid too, so seeing all the girls stuffed into that sofabed sharing it together is such a HUGE warm fuzzy for me (along with the other touches I've mentioned). :-)

And one thing I love about this episode, is we have a real breakthrough. For years we've been used to seeing Mrs. Garrett give advice to girls/young women. Well, here we see her sister Beverly Ann giving advice to a young man. It's such a neat "circle of continuance" to see the sister of the advice giver able to help a young man she's never met with her own advice. #beverlyannhug!

First of all, this is a Warner cabin so surely it would come equipped with bedrooms, 1,000 thread count sheets, jacuzzi’s and all the comforts of a Park Avenue Penthouse. But it’s conveniently only one room to be shared with the guys who are there as well because of a crazy sitcom plot device mixup. Just dumb.

And did you notice NO ONE USED THE BEDROOM??? They all stayed out front! :lol:

The guy realizes he’s not in love with Blair after having a bizarre talk with Beverly Ann where she tells him her ex was mauled piece by piece by wild animals. There had to be a scene edited because why would she say that?! Her ex is alive right?! Why tell a story like that? :confused:

To get him off Blair's back and back to his girl, lol.

Anyway, morning thankfully comes and the snow is plowed away and the girls can move on to their new cabin and away from those annoying guys.

Nooooo! I LOVE "trapped in snowy weather" episodes! DON'T GO GIRLS!!

I like Doug, the main guy. Hopper's a doof, and the other guy was Jason Bateman's character's friend Rich on "Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogan Family/I Think That's All There Are".

It was a boring filler episode but thankfully there's no Andy, except for 30 seconds where he begs for them to take him to the cabin and to my relief, they refuse. It’s not my favorite episode but still nowhere near the atrocity that is Seven Little Indians! I guess i'd give it 5 stars out of 10 since the gang was all together.

COZIEST.

"FACTS".

EVER.

:loveya:

'80sSitcoms

05-04-2020, 10:39 PM

This is my favorite.

I don't care for that. It looks too..." '80s soccer mom"-ish, and a little matronly or something. I do much prefer the style in the first pic you showed (sorry, but Mrs. Garrett won't let me lie! lol)

Jo's mullet was very different from Nat's season 7 hair! (and hideous). The look on Nancy M's face here seems to say she agrees lol. :lol::wave:

:rofl:

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 11:02 PM

Will someone PLEASE return POD cfr for real cfr?? :lol:

2 duds in a row for him! Wow!

No, I liked the Cinnamon one! I just didn't care for Winter's Tale. puke:

Well she's nowhere near Jermaine Jackson level, lol. In fact, she doesn't even yell or scream at all, she just raises her voice. I myself enjoyed the nice "tell-off" and, being a creative type, I can totally empathize. As "juicy" as it is here to witness Tootie tell her off in front of her friends, you really do feel that huge awkwardness in the room when Cinnamon runs away crying.

Ok good point, Jermaine Jackson she was possessed lol. But with Cinnamon she went too far that it almost came off as jealousy because as a performer herself, she should've immediately felt supportive of her rather than the anger she spewed at her.

And yeah, in front of everyone only made it all the more embarrassing for poor Cinnamon.

And here I've been looking forward to your thoughts on this one for weeks, because I love it! It is the coziest episode of this entire series in all 9 seasons. CO-ZI-EST. :heart: :loveya: :heart: A ski cabin! In a blizzard! With people we love trapped with strangers! And there's a SOFABED!! OH I can't get enough of it!!

:bighug:

Just that premise makes me so nostalgic for "snow days" back in my boyhood. And we had a sofabed when I was a kid too, so seeing all the girls stuffed into that sofabed sharing it together is such a HUGE warm fuzzy for me (along with the other touches I've mentioned). :-)

Well cozy just doesn't cut it with me I guess. :lol:

Maybe if the guys were different instead of doofy morons it would've felt different. I liked the idea of them all in a cozy cabin, I guess the story didn't grab me.

Remember the Frasier episode in the winter cabin where everyone is trying to hook up with the other one in secret? And they all play musical bedrooms? Now that was a cozy cabin episode for me and funny! :happyface:wave:

And one thing I love about this episode, is we have a real breakthrough. For years we've been used to seeing Mrs. Garrett give advice to girls/young women. Well, here we see her sister Beverly Ann giving advice to a young man. It's such a neat "circle of continuance" to see the sister of the advice giver able to help a young man she's never met with her own advice. #beverlyannhug!

I'm now wondering if that scene was edited? It was short and her wild animal story of her ex husband came out weird. I'll have to look at it when the dvd's come. I like advice giving Beverly Ann....because during it, we always seem to get a bitter remark about her life and failed marriage. :lol:

And did you notice NO ONE USED THE BEDROOM??? They all stayed out front! :lol:

WHAT??!! :eek: There was a bedroom?! I thought it was just that one big room?! Then why on earth did they all sleep out there together--and Blair on the floor?! I think there was just that 1 big main room otherwise it makes no sense. I think Blair even mentioned it's just a 1 room cabin.

COZIEST.

"FACTS".

EVER.

:loveya:

Replace "coziest" with "craziest" and I'll agree! :lol::crazy:

cfr1970

05-04-2020, 11:08 PM

I don't care for that. It looks too..." '80s soccer mom"-ish, and a little matronly or something. I do much prefer the style in the first pic you showed (sorry, but Mrs. Garrett won't let me lie! lol)

I think a shorter style frames her face better than long hair does. For some women, when they grow their hair longer it makes then look worse. I can't explain it, but I think Mindy Cohn looks best with shoulder length hair.

Speaking of which, it's the exact opposite for Lisa Whelchel imo. She looks best when her hair is long and flowing with all that poofy, wavy volume. But when she wears it up as she did in the radio station episode :barf: the magic is gone! :eek:

'80sSitcoms

05-04-2020, 11:52 PM

No, I liked the Cinnamon one! I just didn't care for Winter's Tale.

Okay, I guess your cynical tone throughout the Cinnamon one just seemed to be more "dud"-ish for you. :lol:

Ok good point, Jermaine Jackson she was possessed lol. But with Cinnamon she went too far that it almost came off as jealousy because as a performer herself, she should've immediately felt supportive of her rather than the anger she spewed at her.

Well, normally I would agree with you, but remember, this is the girl who was competition for Tootie up for actual Broadway. So I can kind of understand her p*ssed Tootie side here, lol.

Well cozy just doesn't cut it with me I guess. :lol:

Not with ol' "cold heart cfr"! :lol:

:joke:

Remember the Frasier episode in the winter cabin where everyone is trying to hook up with the other one in secret? And they all play musical bedrooms? Now that was a cozy cabin episode for me and funny! :happyface:wave:

No, I'm not a F watcher (I love "Cheers" though), but that does sound like a hoot!

I'm now wondering if that scene was edited? It was short and her wild animal story of her ex husband came out weird. I'll have to look at it when the dvd's come. I like advice giving Beverly Ann....because during it, we always seem to get a bitter remark about her life and failed marriage. :lol:

:lol:

I'll say I hope it was edited, and it probably was!

WHAT??!! :eek: There was a bedroom?! I thought it was just that one big room?! Then why on earth did they all sleep out there together--and Blair on the floor?! I think there was just that 1 big main room otherwise it makes no sense. I think Blair even mentioned it's just a 1 room cabin.

Oh, maybe! I'm not sure now. :confused: I mean they go to a room in the back left of the cabin, so I assumed that was a bedroom where they were putting their luggage and coats and everything, but everybody was just sleepin' out in the main room like free winter love! :lol:

Replace "coziest" with "craziest" and I'll agree! :lol::crazy:

:rofl:

By the way, I'm not sure if you recognized Dwight, but that was a very young Doug Savant (I never watched "Desperate Housewives", but there ya go). I accidentally called him "Doug" instead of "Dwight" in my earlier post, lol.

'80sSitcoms

05-04-2020, 11:56 PM

Well cozy just doesn't cut it with me I guess. :lol:

Uh-oh! Sounds like a certain cynical someone needs a hug from Cozy Heart Penguin!

:bighug:

-

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 12:00 AM

I think a shorter style frames her face better than long hair does. For some women, when they grow their hair longer it makes then look worse. I can't explain it, but I think Mindy Cohn looks best with shoulder length hair.

Speaking of which, it's the exact opposite for Lisa Whelchel imo. She looks best when her hair is long and flowing with all that poofy, wavy volume. But when she wears it up as she did in the radio station episode :barf: the magic is gone! :eek:

I was going to say in response to your first paragraph that I think it depends on the woman, but you did then say Lisa looks much better with longer hair. Lisa is blessed, while she still looks good with it short (like in the FOL bonus features on the seasons 1&2 DVD set), she does look even better with Blair's "puff".

On AW I think Frankie and Sharlene look much better with medium-long to long hair than short hair, while Felicia looks so "Felicia" with that really short hair but didn't look like herself at all when she had the extensions in for her "40th" birthday in February 1989 for several weeks (when Linda was really 46! lol).

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 01:13 AM

Okay, I guess your cynical tone throughout the Cinnamon one just seemed to be more "dud"-ish for you. :lol:

It's easy to be cynical when you have an episode with Stacy Q hawking her 2 hit wonders. I really did enjoy the episode though, but it seems the later seasons are much easier to rip apart due to the hideous styles, the in and out of POD characters, and the sudden bursts of catty bitchiness between the girls. It's all in good fun though.

I doubt i'll be able to do it with the earlier seasons as much as these. And i'l all raring to go with tearing apart the infamous season 9!! :lol:

Well, normally I would agree with you, but remember, this is the girl who was competition for Tootie up for actual Broadway. So I can kind of understand her p*ssed Tootie side here, lol.

No, I'm not a F watcher (I love "Cheers" though), but that does sound like a hoot!

Fraiser is really good. I watched the whole series through once and really enjoyed it. But once was enough for a show like that. That cabin episode was so funny and one of the memorable ones.

I was imagining Winter's Tale doing the same thing, but you know that wouldn't have EVER got past the studio much less Lisa bouncing from bedroom to bedroom trying to hook up.

But it would've been SO funny seeing the Core Four sneaking around playing musical bedrooms thinking everyone else is asleep. You have to see that episode to know what i'm picturing. Someone here had to have seen it! Anybody?! :lookaroun

To make it work though, you needed 4 guys and there were only 3 in Winter's Tale...and come to think of it, what kind of loser only has 2 friends at his bachelor party?! :lol:

Oh, maybe! I'm not sure now. :confused: I mean they go to a room in the back left of the cabin, so I assumed that was a bedroom where they were putting their luggage and coats and everything, but everybody was just sleepin' out in the main room like free winter love! :lol:

I thought it was the bathroom. That cabin was a pretty big set so I guess they had no room left to put a bedroom anywhere on the stage.

By the way, I'm not sure if you recognized Dwight, but that was a very young Doug Savant (I never watched "Desperate Housewives", but there ya go). I accidentally called him "Doug" instead of "Dwight" in my earlier post, lol.

See i'm older than that because I recognized him as the gay character from "Melrose Place" way back in the 90's!

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 01:24 AM

I was going to say in response to your first paragraph that I think it depends on the woman, but you did then say Lisa looks much better with longer hair. Lisa is blessed, while she still looks good with it short (like in the FOL bonus features on the seasons 1&2 DVD set), she does look even better with Blair's "puff".

I have that season 1&2 dvd but never played the bonuses. Yikes how short is it there? I'll have to pop it in tomorrow to see. It's not captioned so i'll just have a look and pop it back out, but I don't like her with short hair. Her face was made for the big lions mane of the early seasons. :lol:

On AW I think Frankie and Sharlene look much better with medium-long to long hair than short hair, while Felicia looks so "Felicia" with that really short hair but didn't look like herself at all when she had the extensions in for her "40th" birthday in February 1989 for several weeks (when Linda was really 46! lol).

I know exactly what you're talking about with Felicia and when she grew the hair out long. She looked AWFUL! Her face was made for short hair and that's exactly what I mean about Mindy Cohn.

Long hair on her just enlongates her face I guess and makes her look older and haggard while the shorter length frames her face perfectly imo.

It's the same as when you see those old women these days wearing 20 something type long hairstyles. They look hideous and downright scary! Once a woman passes a certain age, it's time to keep it short or you look like a mutant freak with an old wrinkly face and a 22 year old's hair. puke: :wave:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 01:35 AM

It's easy to be cynical when you have an episode with Stacy Q hawking her 2 hit wonders. I really did enjoy the episode though, but it seems the later seasons are much easier to rip apart due to the hideous styles, the in and out of POD characters, and the sudden bursts of catty bitchiness between the girls. It's all in good fun though.

I doubt i'll be able to do it with the earlier seasons as much as these. And i'l all raring to go with tearing apart the infamous season 9!! :lol:

:lol:

But it would've been SO funny seeing the Core Four sneaking around playing musical bedrooms thinking everyone else is asleep. You have to see that episode to know what i'm picturing. Someone here had to have seen it! Anybody?! :lookaroun

That reminds of a "Who's the Boss?" episode from season 1 that has musical bedrooms going on in the house, but for "G" reasons.

To make it work though, you needed 4 guys and there were only 3 in Winter's Tale...and come to think of it, what kind of loser only has 2 friends at his bachelor party?! :lol:

Hey! There were 9 other guys on their way there! They mentioned them more than once! :lol

I thought it was the bathroom. That cabin was a pretty big set so I guess they had no room left to put a bedroom anywhere on the stage.

See, I thought when the girls got there the guys said there was just one room, and the girls were all, "There's just one room??", so I took that to mean one bedroom, because there's a kitchen and a bathroom, so that's three rooms right there.

See i'm older than that because I recognized him as the gay character from "Melrose Place" way back in the 90's!

Oh, yeah, I never watched MP, lol. :)

By the way, I LOVE the gag when the girls get there and Hopper hits on Jo about not wanting her to go away but loses out, he hits on Tootie about not wanting her to go away but loses out, then we hear the others commenting on what a loser line he tries but we next see him hitting on Natalie and she's all girly and gushing, "Now, what makes you think I'm going away?? :loveya:"

:rofl:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 01:39 AM

I have that season 1&2 dvd but never played the bonuses. Yikes how short is it there?

The shortest-you'll-ever-see-it short!

It's the same as when you see those old women these days wearing 20 something type long hairstyles. They look hideous and downright scary! Once a woman passes a certain age, it's time to keep it short or you look like a mutant freak with an old wrinkly face and a 22 year old's hair. puke: :wave:

Reminds me of that "Golden Girls" dream Rose had about having their heads frozen, and Sophia got a new young body: "It's the latest thing! Young bodies with old heads!" :lol:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 01:51 AM

That reminds of a "Who's the Boss?" episode from season 1 that has musical bedrooms going on in the house, but for "G" reasons.

I saw the season 1 dvd a few years ago but forgot about this. Why did they do musical bedrooms in that one? :confused:

Hey! There were 9 other guys on their way there! They mentioned them more than once! :

I don't remember that. I wonder if it was edited out. I know when they first got there Blair and Melrose Place guy went back out to find a phone to call their Dad's companies to fix the mix up. And the cabin didn't even have a phone! A Warner cabin with no phone?! Please!...Never happen! :eek:

By the way, I LOVE the gag when the girls get there and Hopper hits on Jo about not wanting her to go away but loses out, he hits on Tootie about not wanting her to go away but loses out, then we hear the others commenting on what a loser line he tries but we next see him hitting on Natalie and she's all girly and gushing, "Now, what makes you think I'm going away?? :loveya:"

:rofl:

That was POD Natalie lol. When she did that I was like, Natalie would see through that act too. And you notice later on in the bed, POD Natalie disappears and she shuts him down when he tries again. I think she even said something along the lines that she wasn't herself earlier. :lol:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 01:54 AM

The shortest-you'll-ever-see-it short!

I'll pop it in tomorrow to check it out....though i'm a little frightened to see!

Reminds me of that "Golden Girls" dream Rose had about having their heads frozen, and Sophia got a new young body: "It's the latest thing! Young bodies with old heads!" :lol:

YES! I remember that! And they were just as grossed out at the thought of it too! :lol:

Lorimar Television

05-05-2020, 03:28 AM

POD CFR? Wait SO users can be replaced by pods on these boards as well? :eek:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 10:32 AM

POD CFR? Wait SO users can be replaced by pods on these boards as well? :eek:

When I watch season 1 and start praising Molly, then you'll know i'm a POD! :lol::wave:

Speaking of which, my Complete Series is out for delivery today!! :clap:

I have a lazy mail person that i've seen parks her little white truck in the McDonald's parking lot to stuff her face, so i'm not counting on it getting here before today's 3PM airings.

But tonight i'm watching the Down Under movie!! I see it aired 2/15/87 and that's exactly where I am on the Antenna TV episode run (today's episode is "Cupid's Revenge" that aired 2/14/87) so it's the perfect timing to finally see this!! :yippee:

party:party:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 11:26 AM

I saw the season 1 dvd a few years ago but forgot about this. Why did they do musical bedrooms in that one? :confused:

It was after they all watched a scary late night movie downstairs in the living room. Samantha has bad dreams and goes to Angela's room to sleep with her, while Jonathan is sharing Tony's bed. But Tony snores, so Jonathan fibs that he thinks Samantha wanted Tony to go sleep with her, so groggy Tony goes to Sam's room. Only, Samantha was hogging all the covers in Angela's bed, so Angela said she'd just go sleep in Sam's bed, so when Tony goes to Sam's bed, Angela's in there, but he thinks she's Sam! :lol: :crazy:

And then catty, bitchy Betty White's guest character shows up early in the morning with a TV crew, and Jonathan takes them all upstairs! :lol:

That was POD Natalie lol. When she did that I was like, Natalie would see through that act too. And you notice later on in the bed, POD Natalie disappears and she shuts him down when he tries again. I think she even said something along the lines that she wasn't herself earlier. :lol:

Haha, yeah, but it was just such a funny cute moment! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 11:31 AM

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 12:22 PM

It was after they all watched a scary late night movie downstairs in the living room. Samantha has bad dreams and goes to Angela's room to sleep with her, while Jonathan is sharing Tony's bed. But Tony snores, so Jonathan fibs that he thinks Samantha wanted Tony to go sleep with her, so groggy Tony goes to Sam's room. Only, Samantha was hogging all the covers in Angela's bed, so Angela said she'd just go sleep in Sam's bed, so when Tony goes to Sam's bed, Angela's in there, but he thinks she's Sam! :lol: :crazy:

And then catty, bitchy Betty White's guest character shows up early in the morning with a TV crew, and Jonathan takes them all upstairs! :lol:

Now I remember it because Betty White was in that one. I still forgot the details, but I do remember Betty playing that bitchy reporter. :lol:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 12:29 PM

Oh, a few childhood moments I remember from seeing these episodes in their original run (I forgot to share these because I've been so THROWN with cfr's reactions lately :lol:):

"Seven Little Indians" - I totally remember Blair being shown as the killer and hissing that HER friends don't get their shoes from the supermarket (lol, what??), and Tootie's defense, "I get mine from Paris, honest!" (does Tootie really order all of her shoes from Paris?? lol...and what supermarkets have shoes??)

"The Greek Connection" - this is one you missed on Friday. I totally remember one of the sisters saying "NOTD", and saying it means "Not Our Type, Dear". I remember being on my parents' bed watching this episode.

"A Winter's Tale" - I totally remember the part about if you're stuck in the wilderness you can survive for 2 weeks by drinking your own sweat. :lol: That was wild to hear!

In Kim Field's book she mentions when she filmed some special in Paris, the directer saw her eyeing these really nice looking shoes in the store window during rehearsal and when she finally went inside to try and buy them they were gone, and later on that directer presented her with them saying he saw her looking at them and bought them for her.

She says she still has them and treasures them. I love that story...so it's safe to say Tootie does in fact get her shoes from Paris! :lol:

As far as drinking sweat for survival, i'd think that would only dehydrate you since sweat is salty. And if you're in the wilderness, I think the chances are good that you'll come across a creek or body of water eventually.

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 12:34 PM

Now I remember it because Betty White was in that one. I still forgot the details, but I do remember Betty playing that bitchy reporter. :lol:

Sue Ann Nivens, Ellen Harper Jackson, Bobbi Barnes...Betty sure wanted audiences to know she could bitch with the best of 'em! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 12:38 PM

In Kim Field's book she mentions when she filmed some special in Paris, the directer saw her eyeing these really nice looking shoes in the store window during rehearsal and when she finally went inside to try and buy them they were gone, and later on that directer presented her with them saying he saw her looking at them and bought them for her.

She says she still has them and treasures them. I love that story...so it's safe to say Tootie does in fact get her shoes from Paris! :lol:

Haha, neat story :)

As far as drinking sweat for survival, i'd think that would only dehydrate you since sweat is salty. And if you're in the wilderness, I think the chances are good that you'll come across a creek or body of water eventually.

Good point. (who knew we'd resort to scientifically analyzing self-sweat drinking? :lol: :crazy:). I also remember the joke after the book quote about walking around sucking your arm for 2 weeks, lol.

It wouldn't have to be just your arm though. You could also suck on your leg, the bottom of your foot, or, if you're very nimble, maybe even your own armpit. :lol:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 12:43 PM

Sue Ann Nivens, Ellen Harper Jackson, Bobbi Barnes...Betty sure wanted audiences to know she could bitch with the best of 'em! :lol:

I haven't seen her as Sue Ann yet and eagerly awaiting her arrival on MTM! I'm currently on season 3 so I think it's getting close to when she comes and I can't wait to finally see her in this role!

Ellen Harper was Mama's Family? And Bobbi Barnes was Who's the Boss right?

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 12:46 PM

Good point. (who knew we'd resort to scientifically analyzing self-sweat drinking? :lol: :crazy:). I also remember the joke after the book quote about walking around sucking your arm for 2 weeks, lol.

It wouldn't have to be just your arm though. You could also suck on your leg, the bottom of your foot, or, if you're very nimble, maybe even your own armpit. :lol:

The only time I sucked my arm was to give myself hickeys as a kid LOL....Oh come on....we all did that when we learned what hickey's were....didn't we? :lookaroun

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 12:50 PM

The only time I sucked my arm was to give myself hickeys as a kid LOL....Oh come on....we all did that when we learned what hickey's were....didn't we? :lookaroun

😂

Like this?

👄💪

:lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 12:53 PM

I haven't seen her as Sue Ann yet and eagerly awaiting her arrival on MTM! I'm currently on season 3 so I think it's getting close to when she comes and I can't wait to finally see her in this role!

Oh that's right, you're not really familiar with Sue Ann Nivens. Yes, Sue Ann the "Happy Homemaker" arrives in season 4.

Ellen Harper was Mama's Family? And Bobbi Barnes was Who's the Boss right?

Yup! Ellen was Mama's eldest daughter, the pretty, sophisticated, self-centered, cold, stuck up one who married early and left home to get away from Mama! (and I'm sure from Eunice too!) Before MF she made 3 appearances in 3 wonderful "Family" sketches on Carol's show in the late '70s.

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 01:59 PM

Oh that's right, you're not really familiar with Sue Ann Nivens. Yes, Sue Ann the "Happy Homemaker" arrives in season 4.

I'm about midway into season 3 where Mary had a stalker and the whole episode was played for laughs but watching it in 2020 is incredibly disturbing. I mean poor Mary wouldn't even leave her HOUSE----and the audience is LAUGHING at the hilarity of it all. WTF?

And at the end of the episode when she finally stands up to him and tells him to get lost, it's made to have MARY look like the idiot! OMG! It truly was a different world back then! :lol:

Yup! Ellen was Mama's eldest daughter, the pretty, sophisticated, self-centered, cold, stuck up one who married early and left home to get away from Mama! (and I'm sure from Eunice too!) Before MF she made 3 appearances in 3 wonderful "Family" sketches on Carol's show in the late '70s.

I vaguely remember those episodes. I think she was sisters with Rue McClanahan's character?

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 02:05 PM

I'm about midway into season 3 where Mary had a stalker and the whole episode was played for laughs but watching it in 2020 is incredibly disturbing. I mean poor Mary wouldn't even leave her HOUSE----and the audience is LAUGHING at the hilarity of it all. WTF?

And at the end of the episode when she finally stands up to him and tells him to get lost, it's made to have MARY look like the idiot! OMG! It truly was a different world back then! :lol:

Oh, the terrible date?? Yeah, I don't watch that one anymore. Once was too much to take, ugh.

I vaguely remember those episodes. I think she was sisters with Rue McClanahan's character?

No, Ellen and Eunice were sisters (Betty and Carol). Rue played Mama's sister, "Aunt Fran", but she only appeared on "Mama's Family", never on Carol's show.

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 02:13 PM

No, Ellen and Eunice were sisters (Betty and Carol). Rue played Mama's sister, "Aunt Fran", but she only appeared on "Mama's Family", never on Carol's show.

Eunice was Mama's daughter right? So Betty White being her sister then played Mama's daughter too? That's kind of a stretch since Betty had to be about 60 by that time lol. I always thought she was some distant cousin because I seem to remember she only appeared when Rue's character did.

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 02:24 PM

Eunice was Mama's daughter right?

:nod:

So Betty White being her sister then played Mama's daughter too?

:nod:

That's kind of a stretch since Betty had to be about 60 by that time lol.

My mom always says the same thing if she sees them both in an episode: "You'd think they have Betty play her sister and Rue be her daughter." But I have to remind her that Betty was already established as "daughter Ellen" on Carol's show, so she had "squatter's rights". :lol:

Betty was 53 when she first appeared as Ellen in a "Family" sketch on Carol's show. She was 54 her 2nd time, and 56 her 3rd and final time. She was 60 when they started taping "Mama's Family" in '82!

Carol's 11 years younger than Betty.

I always thought she was some distant cousin because I seem to remember she only appeared when Rue's character did.

That's funny, because that's not how it was; there are many episodes that have Ellen in them, but not Aunt Fran, including the time the family went on "Family Feud", and "Country Club" where Ellen was named Raytown's Woman of the Year.

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 02:34 PM

Betty was 53 when she first appeared as Ellen in a "Family" sketch on Carol's show. She was 54 her 2nd time, and 56 her 3rd and final time. She was 60 when they started taping "Mama's Family" in '82!

I don't have a good memory of watching it on Carol's show as I was too young when that was on TV. My mother watched it and it always seemed like "adult" comedy to me that children wouldn't get. At least I never did when I saw my Mom laughing hysterically while I was scratching my head wondering what the hell was so damn funny. :lol:

It was only when "Mama's Family" premiered that I learned of it and I think that show was geared more to the young crowd than Carol's show.

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 03:04 PM

I don't have a good memory of watching it on Carol's show as I was too young when that was on TV. My mother watched it and it always seemed like "adult" comedy to me that children wouldn't get. At least I never did when I saw my Mom laughing hysterically while I was scratching my head wondering what the hell was so damn funny. :lol:

Well, I bet youngsters who got to watch got a kick out of the "comic strip"/'cartoony" characters of boisterous hicktown Mama, Ed, and Eunice, along with their almost always identical outfits.

It was only when "Mama's Family" premiered that I learned of it and I think that show was geared more to the young crowd than Carol's show.

I wouldn't say geared to a younger crowd, just geared toward good old-fashioned funny laugh-your-ass-off comedy. :) It was basically all grown-ups, so they conscientiously added grandkids to try and draw in the teenage demographic.

I do remember being younger and MF expanding my vocabulary. It's because of this show I learned the words "cogency", "fickle", "flippant", "infirmity", "lucre", "ostentation", "recompensed", "unapt", and a slew of "p" words: "passé", "pensive", "pithy", and "plight"! :lol:

RetroGuy2000

05-05-2020, 03:37 PM

"Seven Little Indians" - I totally remember Blair being shown as the killer and hissing that HER friends don't get their shoes from the supermarket (lol, what??), and Tootie's defense, "I get mine from Paris, honest!" (does Tootie really order all of her shoes from Paris?? lol...and what supermarkets have shoes??)

I don't remember any supermarkets selling shoes, even in the 1980s. I think the line is odd.

"The Greek Connection" - this is one you missed on Friday. I totally remember one of the sisters saying "NOTD", and saying it means "Not Our Type, Dear". I remember being on my parents' bed watching this episode.

So cool that you remember exactly where you were when you first watched this episode! I don't remember this episode, but I do remember watching "Seven Little Indians" at my grandparents' house, sitting on their living room floor.

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 03:43 PM

I don't remember any supermarkets selling shoes, even in the 1980s. I think the line is odd.

Right?? Same around here. No shoes in supermarkets. Maybe that was a New York thing. :lol:

So cool that you remember exactly where you were when you first watched this episode! I don't remember this episode, but I do remember watching "Seven Little Indians" at my grandparents' house, sitting on their living room floor.

Yes, I love how we can remember stuff like this. :) I don't remember watching the whole episodes of these later years, but I do have moments that stand out, which is fun/funny, lol.

RetroGuy2000

05-05-2020, 04:05 PM

Right?? Same around here. No shoes in supermarkets. Maybe that was a New York thing. :lol:

I mean, it had to be somewhere! :lol:

Yes, I love how we can remember stuff like this. :) I don't remember watching the whole episodes of these later years, but I do have moments that stand out, which is fun/funny, lol.

I completely agree!

For me, part of the nostalgia factor is remembering where I was when first seeing these episodes. Now, I don't remember where I was when first watching many episodes. But I know for a "Fact" (lol) that I first watched many of the first three/four seasons over the summers in the early 1980s, in front of my grandparents' huge wooden console TV. I remember seeing SLI there, as well, and Down Under.

But most of the later seasons I watched while sitting in a brown 1980s La-Z-y Boy recliner, on a more modern 1980s-style TV. I likely watched most of the final season on my own little TV in my bedroom; I definitely remember watching the final Family Ties episode on that TV.

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 04:13 PM

For me, part of the nostalgia factor is remembering where I was when first seeing these episodes...I know for a "Fact" (lol) that I first watched many of the first three/four seasons over the summers in the early 1980s, in front of my grandparents' huge wooden console TV.

Yes, me too! (as we've discovered before)

But most of the later seasons I watched while sitting in a brown 1980s La-Z-y Boy recliner, on a more modern 1980s-style TV.

I was either on a 1980s couch (most likely the grayish one we had with some stripes IIRC?), or on my parents' bed in their room. I probably watched back there infrequently if Mom or Dad or both were watching something else that was on, because we usually had the NBC Saturday night line-up going in the living room. I was there for all the comedies, but once that adult show "Hunter" came on, I checked out. :lol:

I likely watched most of the final season on my own little TV in my bedroom; I definitely remember watching the final Family Ties episode on that TV.

Why would you do that? :confused: It was a "little" TV---I like bigger screens! :) (and being around family to watch TV, too)

RetroGuy2000

05-05-2020, 04:32 PM

I was either on a 1980s couch (most likely the grayish one we had with some stripes IIRC?), or on my parents' bed in their room. I probably watched back there infrequently if Mom or Dad or both were watching something else that was on, because we usually had the NBC Saturday night line-up going in the living room. I was there for all the comedies, but once that adult show "Hunter" came on, I checked out. :lol:

Oh, yeah. Very few kids would have watched Hunter. I bailed, too! :lol:

Why would you do that? :confused: It was a "little" TV---I like bigger screens! :) (and being around family to watch TV, too)

I don't remember for sure, but I suspect my mom must have wanted to watch something "on another network". So I must have scampered upstairs to watch up there.

The memories of watching TV with my family and grandparents is very strong. I remember my grandpa loved Three's Company, so we watched reruns of that, and everybody watched Family Feud with Richard Dawson (though in retrospect, him kissing every female contestant on that show is... ewww). We definitely all watched many sitcoms together, including FOL.

On Saturday mornings, my sister and I argued about which cartoons to watch. One year was particularly hard because The Smurfs was scheduled at the same time as The Littles AND Muppet Babies! :lol:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 04:51 PM

“Cupid’s Revenge”

I liked this one but oh my God, the PODS were everywhere today! I mean it was a whole POD filled episode! :ufo:

A mysterious Cupid doll ships to Over Our Heads and causes everyone to turn into PODS when old boyfriends show up! Blair seems to like the fact that the Cupid is anatomically correct....HYPOCRITE! :lol:

First up is Cliff, Blair’s ex fiance and med student from Texas who stops over on his way to Boston and tastelessly asks her to the Valentine’s Day dance. I mean, just to show up unexpectedly and ask that knowing she most likely had dates lined up automatically makes him an ass. Of course she lets him know when he assumes “six or seven” guys are lining up for her, that it’s actually “seven or eight”. HA! Good Blair!

So after he’s rightfully turned down by Blair, he has the GALL to ask Jo to the dance. What the hell?! And to make things even worse….Jo accepts without even giving it any thought. You freaking BITCH! Is this The Facts of Life or Dynasty?! :confused:

I just couldn’t believe Jo accepted a date with CLIFF?!.....BLAIR’S Cliff!.....As Tootie would say….”There’s gonna be TROUBLE!!” And she didn’t even have to think about it!! With ANY true friend that would be an automatic “NO!”....Not even “I gotta think about it” or “Let me ask Blair if it’s ok”.....Uh uh...that is an AUTOMATIC capital N. capital O.--NO! Jo really shocked me accepting that date so quickly after how devastated Blair was when that relationship ended!She was right there when she had her breakdown! Doesn’t she remember this?! Bad Jo. Bad, bad bad! She had to be a POD! Had to!

And she was going to go through with the freaking date right up to the last minute where she finally saw on the stairs coming down to greet him that Blair & Cliff obviously still shared a connection.(DUH! You think?!) I couldn’t believe the sheer ignorance and lack of compassion of Jo here. It just went totally against her character that it had to be POD Jo. It’s the only explanation to make me accept this ridiculous storyline.

Only then does the light bulb of sanity go off on top of her head and she lies to Cliff that she made other plans with doofus Roy….and to make things worse, Blair becomes all POD like herself and acts grateful. WHY?! What she was doing was backstabbing! Don’t feel grateful that she wound up doing the right thing! She’s still a terrible friend for even considering it. POD Blair! POD Jo! POD Tootie and POD Natalie as we’ll see shortly too! The PODS were everywhere today I was stepping in POD POO!

And Blair tells doofus Roy, who Jo now deserves to be stuck with for eternity, to “Take care of her. She’s a friend of mine!”....Um, NO Blair, she’s not if it took her that long to realize what she was doing was wrong! What if Blair went out on a date with Eddie?! (I know, I know, it would never happen, but what if?!) Ugh. Blair would never have done that to Jo. Never!

Even Natalie was a POD too because she also thought nothing wrong about Jo dating Cliff and told Blair what’s the big deal?! You red haired ignorant trollop! Does she too forget how this devastated Blair when they broke up? She was right there too when Blair had her breakdown. What the hell is going on here? I think that Cupid doll was possessing everybody and turning them into Valentine’s Day PODS!

And she was kind of catty to Blair too with her line about her and Jo, to justify Cliff wanting her with “You’re both smart, you’re both attractive, you’re both brunette!” And then her fake gasp at the catty dig LOL---I have to admit it was funny….but still catty.

And then Blair shoots back with questioning of the existence of her boyfriend Snake and they have words about that. Again, I ask, when did this turn into Dynasty where the women are all fighting with each other and being bitchy. I half expected a cat fight to break out at any moment between all these nasty PODS.

Now we get to POD Tootie where she gets a visit from Jeff and they proceed to have the weirdest conversation i’ve ever witnessed on this show. She asks him how Penn State is and as soon as he starts to tell her about how he’s discovered Marine Biology, instead of like, LISTENING to him, Tootie just starts babbling about her acting career. Huh?!

Hello! He’s TALKING here Tootie! Why don’t you just listen? So he very nicely lets her babble, and then he tries to bring the conversation back to where it logically should be and talks more about Marine Biology, when she does it again all like, I don't care about that, and brings it back to her damn acting.
LOL….what the hell is wrong with her?! It’s now POD Tootie! And a rude POD at that! Why ask him about his college only to start hogging the conversation about your acting?! Bitchy POD!

He then looks at her like “How did I ever love someone as selfish as you?!” and Tootie looks at him like “I can’t be with you because you won’t let it be all about me!” So he gets up and says this was a mistake and he leaves. LOL...this all took place in less than 3 minutes! It was all so weird! I mean, he traveled all the way from Pennsylvania to see her and after only 3 minutes is like….this was a bad idea…”Bye!” And she leads him to the door agreeing! PODS everyone!

The only one that acted normal this whole episode was Beverly Ann who logically thought Orson Bean was cheating with another woman in a restaurant only to learn it was his sister. The whole thing was cute and I love these two together. No PODS here and it was the only story I enjoyed watching. Too bad he doesn't stay. :(

I saw this one last year because I remember Natalie looking at the camera at the end of the show telling the audience to trust her that Snake was real. I can’t wait to finally see this character who turns our Nat into a full fledged woman to Lisa Whelchel’s complete and hypocritical horror! :lol:

It’s a good episode if you really love your PODS!

:ufo:

“62 Pick up”

I never seen this one before but I LOVED it so much! I really can't even say how much I loved it! I think it’s one of my new favorites!! It was so much FUN!! SEE? Fantasy episodes can be good if done right! I loved the costumes, the story, the hair and most of all, Beverly Ann’s “Mrs. Krebbs” character. She was hysterical there! :lol:

It opens with 60’s singers Bobby Rydell and Fabian knocking on the door where Tootie has the exact same reaction to them I would have had. Who the hell these people are, I don’t know. I vaguely heard the name Fabian before and the only Rydell I know is the High School from “Grease” LOL.

Apparently they were big in their day and Tootie treats them like a couple of weirdos off the street when they pretty much barge right into the home to look around at their old digs.

Later, Beverly Ann squeals with sheer delight at the thought of these two 60’s singers in the home that she starts to tell one of her St. Olaf stories….(well not St. Olaf, but her roommates hate them just as much as Rose’s roommates do because they all start getting up to leave the room LOL)

Then we flash back to the 60’s and I LOL’d at all their entrances. I don’t recall this episode even back in the 80’s so this had to be where I started tuning out of the show because this is something I would’ve definitely remembered!

Anyway, it was well worth waiting 33 years to finally see! I really enjoyed it and they looked like they were having fun singing Hot Rod Lover!

I definitely want to see this one uncut when the dvd’s come (I saw the mail truck out the window a few minutes ago so they’re here!! YAY!)

Their singing at the end in the Black Bird/Over Our Heads Cafe was fun! Even Street Urchin didn't bother me in this one and I can't wait to view it again without anything edited out! :heart:

RetroGuy2000

05-05-2020, 05:01 PM

I definitely want to see this one uncut when the dvd’s come (I saw the mail truck out the window a few minutes ago so they’re here!! YAY!)

YAY!!!!!!

No more butchered episodes! And no commercials!

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 05:15 PM

YAY!!!!!!

No more butchered episodes! And no commercials!

I just popped in the first disc of season 1 to confirm there's captions and they have them! So i'm really happy about that. The bonus features are unfortunately not captioned and it's terrible that studios do this. Are they any less important than the main features? :mad:

Anyway, i'm just happy to finally have it...the box to hold the dvd's came ripped so I had to tape it, (the listing said "like new"?!) But if the dvd's play fine, I can't complain!

Tonight i'm going to watch the "Down Under" movie!! I don't think i've seen it since it's original airing! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 05:19 PM

The memories of watching TV with my family and grandparents is very strong. I remember my grandpa loved Three's Company, so we watched reruns of that

Your grandpa loved TC? That's cute, lol. And, it reminds me of a "Mama's Family" joke:

Mama: "I thought you'd be at home watchin' 'My Sister, Myself'."
Iola: "Oh I wanted to, but Mother's engrossed in 'Life of the Locust' on PBS."
[audience laughter]
Mama: "I swear, that woman'll watch anything with six legs."
Iola: "That's so true. She just loves 'Three's Comp'ny'."
[audience laughter]

:lol:

We definitely all watched many sitcoms together, including FOL.

Oh wow, we never had all of us a family watching FOL.

On Saturday mornings, my sister and I argued about which cartoons to watch. One year was particularly hard because The Smurfs was scheduled at the same time as The Littles AND Muppet Babies! :lol:

:lol:

So who fought for which side?? I'd wanna watch 'em all! lol

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 05:28 PM

“Cupid’s Revenge”

I liked this one but oh my God, the PODS were everywhere today! I mean it was a whole POD filled episode!

Well, like you said, it's all explainable---the Cupid! :lol:

I find Tootie and Jeff's reunion SO ridiculous. They greet each other, and they sit down on the couch. They each share a sentence or two about what they're doing now, and they take turns doing this in 4 lines, probably less than a whole minute.

And they say they're in such different places, it can't work out.

AFTER. FOUR. LINES.

UTTERLY ridiculous. If they think you can't be in a relationship if you're in different careers, they're living in some whole other world! lol

Blair seems to like the fact that the Cupid is anatomically correct....HYPOCRITE! :lol:

:lol: I guess they wanted a "throwback" moment to early Blair!

I'm surprised for all your Cliff hate---I like Cliff! :nod: It's a shame he was written out after he and Blair were first together.

“62 Pick up”

I never seen this one before but I LOVED it so much! I really can't even say how much I loved it! I think it’s one of my new favorites!! It was so much FUN!! SEE? Fantasy episodes can be good if done right! I loved the costumes, the story, the hair and most of all, Beverly Ann’s “Mrs. Krebbs” character. She was hysterical there! :lol:

Wow! Well, congrats for enjoying! :woohoo:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 05:30 PM

I just popped in the first disc of season 1 to confirm there's captions and they have them! So i'm really happy about that.

Hooray!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

(I am sorry about the bonus features, though)

Anyway, i'm just happy to finally have it...the box to hold the dvd's came ripped so I had to tape it, (the listing said "like new"?!) But if the dvd's play fine, I can't complain!

Yup, that's the main thing! :nod:

Tonight i'm going to watch the "Down Under" movie!! I don't think i've seen it since it's original airing! :lol:

For the international vibe, I think tonight I'm gonna watch "Big Bird in Japan", lol. :wave:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 05:34 PM

Well, like you said, it's all explainable---the Cupid! :lol:

I find Tootie and Jeff's reunion SO ridiculous. They greet each other, and they sit down on the couch. They each share a sentence or two about what they're doing now, and they take turns doing this in 4 lines, probably less than a whole minute.

And they say they're in such different places, it can't work out.

AFTER. FOUR. LINES.

UTTERLY ridiculous. If they think you can't be in a relationship if you're in different careers, they're living in some whole other world! lol

:lol: I guess they wanted a "throwback" moment to early Blair!

I'm surprised for all your Cliff hate---I like Cliff! :nod: It's a shame he was written out after he and Blair were first together.

Wow! Well, congrats for enjoying! :woohoo:

Why are you surprised? Cliff ASKED JO OUT! You don't see how WRONG that is?! Before this, I loved Cliff! He was perfect for Blair, but asking Jo out literally 2 minutes after Blair turned him down was just too wrong for words. He's dead to me now. :angryfire

Valentina where are you? I KNOW you'll agree with me how wrong Cliff and Jo both were to do this to Blair! :wave:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 05:36 PM

Hooray!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

(I am sorry about the bonus features, though)

Yup, that's the main thing! :nod:

For the international vibe, I think tonight I'm gonna watch "Big Bird in Japan", lol. :wave:

Eh the Down Under movie isn't captioned and neither is the Paris one! Oh well guess i'm not watching that tonight lol. I'll see if I can find the Down Under one on You Tube. The Paris one I already saw before.

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 05:41 PM

It's not Cliff! It's that damned Cupid! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 05:42 PM

Oh, sorry about the movie, cfr...yeah, at least hopefully you can watch it on YouTube. :nod:

Lorimar Television

05-05-2020, 06:10 PM

Sue Ann Nivens, Ellen Harper Jackson, Bobbi Barnes...Betty sure wanted audiences to know she could bitch with the best of 'em! :lol:

You know I love a Sue Ann :lol:

Lorimar Television

05-05-2020, 06:11 PM

Eh the Down Under movie isn't captioned and neither is the Paris one! Oh well guess i'm not watching that tonight lol. I'll see if I can find the Down Under one on You Tube. The Paris one I already saw before.

Aw :( sorry

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 07:15 PM

Wow! Well, congrats for enjoying! :woohoo:

I take it "62 Pick Up" isn't a fan favorite around here?! :eek:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 07:28 PM

You know I love a Sue Ann :lol:

:rofl:

valentina warner

05-05-2020, 07:28 PM

“Cupid’s Revenge”

I liked this one but oh my God, the PODS were everywhere today! I mean it was a whole POD filled episode!

A mysterious Cupid doll ships to Over Our Heads and causes everyone to turn into PODS when old boyfriends show up! Blair seems to like the fact that the Cupid is anatomically correct....HYPOCRITE!

First up is Cliff, Blair’s ex fiance and med student from Texas who stops over on his way to Boston and tastelessly asks her to the Valentine’s Day dance. I mean, just to show up unexpectedly and ask that knowing she most likely had dates lined up automatically makes him an ass. Of course she lets him know when he assumes “six or seven” guys are lining up for her, that it’s actually “seven or eight”. HA! Good Blair!

So after he’s rightfully turned down by Blair, he has the GALL to ask Jo to the dance. What the hell?! And to make things even worse….Jo accepts without even giving it any thought. You freaking BITCH! Is this The Facts of Life or Dynasty?!

I just couldn’t believe Jo accepted a date with CLIFF?!.....BLAIR’S Cliff!.....As Tootie would say….”There’s gonna be TROUBLE!!” And she didn’t even have to think about it!! With ANY true friend that would be an automatic “NO!”....Not even “I gotta think about it” or “Let me ask Blair if it’s ok”.....Uh uh...that is an AUTOMATIC capital N. capital O.--NO! Jo really shocked me accepting that date so quickly after how devastated Blair was when that relationship ended!She was right there when she had her breakdown! Doesn’t she remember this?! Bad Jo. Bad, bad bad! She had to be a POD! Had to!

And she was going to go through with the freaking date right up to the last minute where she finally saw on the stairs coming down to greet him that Blair & Cliff obviously still shared a connection.(DUH! You think?!) I couldn’t believe the sheer ignorance and lack of compassion of Jo here. It just went totally against her character that it had to be POD Jo. It’s the only explanation to make me accept this ridiculous storyline.

Only then does the light bulb of sanity go off on top of her head and she lies to Cliff that she made other plans with doofus Roy….and to make things worse, Blair becomes all POD like herself and acts grateful. WHY?! What she was doing was backstabbing! Don’t feel grateful that she wound up doing the right thing! She’s still a terrible friend for even considering it. POD Blair! POD Jo! POD Tootie and POD Natalie as we’ll see shortly too! The PODS were everywhere today I was stepping in POD POO!

And Blair tells doofus Roy, who Jo now deserves to be stuck with for eternity, to “Take care of her. She’s a friend of mine!”....Um, NO Blair, she’s not if it took her that long to realize what she was doing was wrong! What if Blair went out on a date with Eddie?! (I know, I know, it would never happen, but what if?!) Ugh. Blair would never have done that to Jo. Never!

Even Natalie was a POD too because she also thought nothing wrong about Jo dating Cliff and told Blair what’s the big deal?! You red haired ignorant trollop! Does she too forget how this devastated Blair when they broke up? She was right there too when Blair had her breakdown. What the hell is going on here? I think that Cupid doll was possessing everybody and turning them into Valentine’s Day PODS!

And she was kind of catty to Blair too with her line about her and Jo, to justify Cliff wanting her with “You’re both smart, you’re both attractive, you’re both brunette!” And then her fake gasp at the catty dig LOL---I have to admit it was funny….but still catty.

And then Blair shoots back with questioning of the existence of her boyfriend Snake and they have words about that. Again, I ask, when did this turn into Dynasty where the women are all fighting with each other and being bitchy. I half expected a cat fight to break out at any moment between all these nasty PODS.

Now we get to POD Tootie where she gets a visit from Jeff and they proceed to have the weirdest conversation i’ve ever witnessed on this show. She asks him how Penn State is and as soon as he starts to tell her about how he’s discovered Marine Biology, instead of like, LISTENING to him, Tootie just starts babbling about her acting career. Huh?!

Hello! He’s TALKING here Tootie! Why don’t you just listen? So he very nicely lets her babble, and then he tries to bring the conversation back to where it logically should be and talks more about Marine Biology, when she does it again all like, I don't care about that, and brings it back to her damn acting.
LOL….what the hell is wrong with her?! It’s now POD Tootie! And a rude POD at that! Why ask him about his college only to start hogging the conversation about your acting?! Bitchy POD!

He then looks at her like “How did I ever love someone as selfish as you?!” and Tootie looks at him like “I can’t be with you because you won’t let it be all about me!” So he gets up and says this was a mistake and he leaves. LOL...this all took place in less than 3 minutes! It was all so weird! I mean, he traveled all the way from Pennsylvania to see her and after only 3 minutes is like….this was a bad idea…”Bye!” And she leads him to the door agreeing! PODS everyone!

The only one that acted normal this whole episode was Beverly Ann who logically thought Orson Bean was cheating with another woman in a restaurant only to learn it was his sister. The whole thing was cute and I love these two together. No PODS here and it was the only story I enjoyed watching. Too bad he doesn't stay.

I saw this one last year because I remember Natalie looking at the camera at the end of the show telling the audience to trust her that Snake was real. I can’t wait to finally see this character who turns our Nat into a full fledged woman to Lisa Whelchel’s complete and hypocritical horror!

It’s a good episode if you really love your PODS!

“62 Pick up”

I never seen this one before but I LOVED it so much! I really can't even say how much I loved it! I think it’s one of my new favorites!! It was so much FUN!! SEE? Fantasy episodes can be good if done right! I loved the costumes, the story, the hair and most of all, Beverly Ann’s “Mrs. Krebbs” character. She was hysterical there!

It opens with 60’s singers Bobby Rydell and Fabian knocking on the door where Tootie has the exact same reaction to them I would have had. Who the hell these people are, I don’t know. I vaguely heard the name Fabian before and the only Rydell I know is the High School from “Grease” LOL.

Apparently they were big in their day and Tootie treats them like a couple of weirdos off the street when they pretty much barge right into the home to look around at their old digs.

Later, Beverly Ann squeals with sheer delight at the thought of these two 60’s singers in the home that she starts to tell one of her St. Olaf stories….(well not St. Olaf, but her roommates hate them just as much as Rose’s roommates do because they all start getting up to leave the room LOL)

Then we flash back to the 60’s and I LOL’d at all their entrances. I don’t recall this episode even back in the 80’s so this had to be where I started tuning out of the show because this is something I would’ve definitely remembered!

Anyway, it was well worth waiting 33 years to finally see! I really enjoyed it and they looked like they were having fun singing Hot Rod Lover!

I definitely want to see this one uncut when the dvd’s come (I saw the mail truck out the window a few minutes ago so they’re here!! YAY!)

Their singing at the end in the Black Bird/Over Our Heads Cafe was fun! Even Street Urchin didn't bother me in this one and I can't wait to view it again without anything edited out!

Hello cfr1970!

I'm here and i had to stop myself from bursting in laughter with your tonight's reviews: FOL = DYNASTY????!!!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:

And PODS everywhere?????!!!! Ha ha ha that did it!

About the 'Cupid's revenge' episode: i remember vaguely CLIFF showing up (i almost forgot he made an appearance in season 8 for some vague reasons....) and thinking, "What is it doing here, and why is JO with him????":mad:
I don't remember much though, but if this is going to start being like watching 'DYNASTY', then please pass me the popcorn!!!popcorn:
I can just imagine JOAN COLLINS as BLAIR and LINDA EVANS as JO (or the other way round to be honest) and if there is going to be any cat fights, then i'm totally up for it! (there is nothing more hilarious than watching women slap each other ha ha!)

To be honest, nothing surprises me anymore, and i stopped getting upset....

For instance, in today's episode, i wanted very badly to grab BLAIR and slap her for behaving like a 4 YEAR OLD POD!!!:mad:
In 'ATLANTIC CITY: BLAIR kept stealing money from everywhere (she was worse than ANDY lol!) with her 'bowling mania', which reminds me:
it was DEFINITELY another inspiration for a TWILIGHT ZONE episode, where an old couple goes to Las Vegas and the husband becomes addicted to the gambling!!!! *except that in the end the machine goes after him and KILLS him!)

Anyway, like i was saying, 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR becomes addictive to the gambling, spend 3000 DOLLARS, steal her friend's money and even has the AUDACITY to ask JO for more!!!
4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR begs: "please mummy JO, could you give me some money for the bus?"
MUMMY JO answers: "no! Okay, here is a quarter."
4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR: "can you forgive me for being a bad girl?"
MUMMY JO: "we'll all forgive you when we get home..."
And then 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR kisses MUMMY JO in the hand!:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

And the end is even better: 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR walks toward one lady and says "here is the money. I don't GAMBLE any more."
The lady takes it, put the coin in the machine and when all the millions start coming out, 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR jumps to the floor screaming, "this is MY money!"
This is what MRS G would say to BLAIR :nonono::nonono::nonono:

PS: i still need to watch the CLIFF episode to agree with you and see what kind of TRAITORS her best friend and exboyfriend are, but so far, if FOL is really turning into DYNASTY, then i'm really going to enjoy it!

:brent:brent:brent

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 07:29 PM

I take it "62 Pick Up" isn't a fan favorite around here?! :eek:

Oh I don't know about that, it's just that's one of the handful of ones I skipped when I re-watched season 8 last month. I just don't care for the fantasy episodes of the girls except for Blair's 2000 dream and SLI.

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 08:01 PM

Hello cfr1970!

I'm here and i had to stop myself from bursting in laughter with your tonight's reviews: FOL = DYNASTY????!!!!!

And PODS everywhere?????!!!! Ha ha ha that did it!

About the 'Cupid's revenge' episode: i remember vaguely CLIFF showing up (i almost forgot he made an appearance in season 8 for some vague reasons....) and thinking, "What is it doing here, and why is JO with him????":mad:
I don't remember much though, but if this is going to start being like watching 'DYNASTY', then please pass me the popcorn!!!popcorn:
I can just imagine JOAN COLLINS as BLAIR and LINDA EVANS as JO (or the other way round to be honest) and if there is going to be any cat fights, then i'm totally up for it! (there is nothing more hilarious than watching women slap each other ha ha!)

To be honest, nothing surprises me anymore, and i stopped getting upset....

For instance, in today's episode, i wanted very badly to grab BLAIR and slap her for behaving like a 4 YEAR OLD POD!!!:mad:
In 'ATLANTIC CITY: BLAIR kept stealing money from everywhere (she was worse than ANDY lol!) with her 'bowling mania', which reminds me:
it was DEFINITELY another inspiration for a TWILIGHT ZONE episode, where an old couple goes to Las Vegas and the husband becomes addicted to the gambling!!!! *except that in the end the machine goes after him and KILLS him!)

Anyway, like i was saying, 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR becomes addictive to the gambling, spend 3000 DOLLARS, steal her friend's money and even has the AUDACITY to ask JO for more!!!
4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR begs: "please mummy JO, could you give me some money for the bus?"
MUMMY JO answers: "no! Okay, here is a quarter."
4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR: "can you forgive me for being a bad girl?"
MUMMY JO: "we'll all forgive you when we get home..."
And then 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR kisses MUMMY JO in the hand!

And the end is even better: 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR walks toward one lady and says "here is the money. I don't GAMBLE any more."
The lady takes it, put the coin in the machine and when all the millions start coming out, 4 YEAR OLD POD BLAIR jumps to the floor screaming, "this is MY money!"
This is what MRS G would say to BLAIR :nonono::nonono::nonono:

PS: i still need to watch the CLIFF episode to agree with you and see what kind of TRAITORS her best friend and exboyfriend are, but so far, if FOL is really turning into DYNASTY, then i'm really going to enjoy it!

:brent:brent:brent

Oh valentina I can't wait till you see "Cupid's Revenge" and Cliff asks out Jo and she accepts. I really want your opinion of it! Maybe the cupid doll possessed them all but it wasn't being played like a fantasy/occult thing going on. They were all acting in reality...only POD like lol.
But then the Cupid doll did just disappear without reason...so if it was some weird occult thing happening, it wasn't done clearly where it was known to the audience. I can't wait to get your take on it because how protective you are of our Blair! :heart::wave:

Blair did act like a child in Atlantic City when she suddenly got addicted to gambling. The writers seemed to change her at their whims to fit the stories. At the end where she was on the floor scooping up all the quarters that wasn't even hers was embarrassing! I don't think real Blair would've done that since she's "filthy rich" (her own exact words!) so it was definitely POD Blair rearing her head again. :jar::jar::jar:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 08:06 PM

Oh I don't know about that, it's just that's one of the handful of ones I skipped when I re-watched season 8 last month. I just don't care for the fantasy episodes of the girls except for Blair's 2000 dream and SLI.

Blair's 2000 dream was good! I like that one. I thought since you raved so much about SLI, you'd love 62 Pick Up too. I'm actually shocked! :eek:

Maybe since i'm a big fan of mid century films and musicals this was right up my alley. Since I can't watch Down Under movie tonight, i'm going to rewatch the ones that played today on dvd and also Winter's Tale to see what was edited out of them. :)

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 08:15 PM

Blair's 2000 dream was good! I like that one. I thought since you raved so much about SLI, you'd love 62 Pick Up too. I'm actually shocked! :eek:

Well it's not that this is one of the ones I won't watch, I just prefer watching the girls as themselves. I really do love oldies though, and "Grease" too! lol

Since I can't watch Down Under movie tonight, i'm going to rewatch the ones that played today on dvd and also Winter's Tale to see what was edited out of them. :)

Sounds fun! :wave:

And don't forget the ones you missed on Friday!

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 08:37 PM

Sounds fun! :wave:

And don't forget the ones you missed on Friday!

Ok, just finished Cupid's Revenge and it seems nothing was edited out?! Everything I watched on the dvd I saw on the Antenna TV version. It's weird. I think there was maybe 30 seconds where Jo was talking to Roy in Over Our Heads that was edited, but that's really it. Almost the entire episode showed!

And seeing it again only confirms it wasn't Cupid because whenever one of the girls held the Cupid, their guy came or called. When Jo held it, Roy came so that's who she was meant to be with.

Her accepting Cliff's date was all Jo's doing and that was just mean!

Now i'm going to rewatch 62 Pickup and after that the 2 episodes I missed Friday so maybe i'll stay up late and toss up another review if anyone is interested. (i'm beginning to think only you read them 80's lol.) :lol::wave:

RetroGuy2000

05-05-2020, 08:58 PM

Now i'm going to rewatch 62 Pickup and after that the 2 episodes I missed Friday so maybe i'll stay up late and toss up another review if anyone is interested. (i'm beginning to think only you read them 80's lol.) :lol::wave:

I read every one of your reviews, but sometimes, I can't think of too much to say. I'd venture to guess that Lorimar and Valentina are reading, as well, since they responded.

Sometimes I can't think of too much to say because I haven't watched the episode recently; that's certainly true of much of Seasons 7-9, which have a lower quality than the first six seasons, when the new producers decided to scrap the Norman Lear format and go for more fantasy-themed episodes. Sometimes, there's not much more to say than, "Yeah, this episode wasn't good. There were problems with the script, wardrobe, set, and direction, and the girls even looked bored with the episode." But I did offer suggestions on how they could have easily fixed the plagiarism episode, as well as comments about The Little Chill.

I'll be looking forward to your Season 1 review, though, because that is my personal favorite. So, please keep posting the reviews, and when you get around to Season 1, I'll be much more engaged.

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 09:08 PM

I read every one of your reviews, but sometimes, I can't think of too much to say. I'd venture to guess that Lorimar and Valentina are reading, as well, since they responded.

Sometimes I can't think of too much to say because I haven't watched the episode recently; that's certainly true of much of Seasons 7-9, which have a lower quality than the first six seasons, when the new producers decided to scrap the Norman Lear format and go for more fantasy-themed episodes. Sometimes, there's not much more to say than, "Yeah, this episode wasn't good. There were problems with the script, wardrobe, set, and direction, and the girls even looked bored with the episode." But I did offer suggestions on how they could have easily fixed the plagiarism episode, as well as comments about The Little Chill.

I'll be looking forward to your Season 1 review, though, because that is my personal favorite. So, please keep posting the reviews, and when you get around to Season 1, I'll be much more engaged.

Thanks Retro! :wave:

And I know what you mean because I see valentina is a season behind and when I read her reviews of season 7 episodes, i'm already like "I forgot that part!" and I just watched that season 2 weeks ago lol. So it's easy to forget after a while! (I still love reading your season 7 reviews valentina so keep them coming! I love seeing everyone else's opinions on the episodes :wave:)

I'm sure when I get to season 1 the thread will be buzzing!! 🐝

valentina warner

05-05-2020, 09:10 PM

Ok, just finished Cupid's Revenge and it seems nothing was edited out?! Everything I watched on the dvd I saw on the Antenna TV version. It's weird. I think there was maybe 30 seconds where Jo was talking to Roy in Over Our Heads that was edited, but that's really it. Almost the entire episode showed!

And seeing it again only confirms it wasn't Cupid because whenever one of the girls held the Cupid, their guy came or called. When Jo held it, Roy came so that's who she was meant to be with.

Her accepting Cliff's date was all Jo's doing and that was just mean!

Now i'm going to rewatch 62 Pickup and after that the 2 episodes I missed Friday so maybe i'll stay up late and toss up another review if anyone is interested. (i'm beginning to think only you read them 80's lol.) :lol::wave:

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Hey i do read your reviews lol!:wave::wave::wave:

valentina warner

05-05-2020, 09:19 PM

Thanks Retro! :wave:

And I know what you mean because I see valentina is a season behind and when I read her reviews of season 7 episodes, i'm already like "I forgot that part!" and I just watched that season 2 weeks ago lol. So it's easy to forget after a while! (I still love reading your season 7 reviews valentina so keep them coming! I love seeing everyone else's opinions on the episodes :wave:)

I'm sure when I get to season 1 the thread will be buzzing!! 🐝

PS: sorry i couldn't help myself into sending you the whole DYNASTY PODS: BLAIR as LINDA EVANS between CLIFF as JOHN FORSYTHE and JO as JOAN COLLINS, and behind we've got NAT as HEATHER LOCKLEAR, TOOTIE as PAMELA SUE MARTIN and the last one could be CINNAMON as PAMELA BELLWOOD?:brent:brent:brent

PS: didn't CHARLOTTE RAE once called JOAN COLLINS 'bitch'???:rofl::rofl::rofl:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 09:20 PM

Now i'm going to rewatch 62 Pickup and after that the 2 episodes I missed Friday so maybe i'll stay up late and toss up another review if anyone is interested. (i'm beginning to think only you read them 80's lol.) :lol::wave:

:lol:

As you can see it's not just me who's a loyal reader, but that is funny. :lol:

And I forgot I have a heap of laundry on my piano bench in m y bedroom to sort through/fold/put away, so I'll pop in '62 Pick-Up into my small TV/DVD combo in there for my "viewing engagement" while I take care of that laundry! :wave:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 09:23 PM

I'm sure when I get to season 1 the thread will be buzzing!! 🐝

:rofl:

You're right, it will! There will be free Eastland love and fights all over the place! :lol:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 10:09 PM

"The Greek Connection"

I missed this Friday and missed a good one! :)

Tootie is excited to join a sorority that Natalie just happens to be given a writing assignment on for the Peekskill Press. She figures Tootie can give her some inside info during her rushing for the sororit, but before she can even ask, Tootie brushes her off to go out with her new gamma gamma gamma friend Kristen, breaking Natalie's heart...and causing jealousy to rear it's ugly head as well.

Nat is gonna get that article even without Tootie's help! So she dons a hideous dress and wig and goes to the sorority house as "Natasha". When she meets a gamma girl who tells her she's "rushing", Nat replies that she's "Natasha...and Lithuanian." HA! (Rushing....Russian....get it? I thought it was hilarious! :lol:)

Tootie spots Nat and is pissed off and asks her how could she do this without asking her instead for the info she needs for her article. When Nat tells her she didn't have a chance to ask, Tootie was having none of it and is even more inflamed!

I can see both sides here. Tootie has a new friend and brushes off Nat and she's hurt and jealous. Nat however was kind of wrong to go undercover like that while Tootie was doing her rushing, which could hurt her sorority chances.

The next day Kristen comes over and spots the article Nat is writing and swipes it! After she leaves with Tootie, Nat sees it's missing and goes off to the sorority house to fetch it back knowing damn well that bitch Kristen took it. :angryfire

Kristen denies taking it and Tootie defends her causing Nat to be deeply hurt by that and leaves very upset. Tootie then sees bitch Kristen actually did take it when she gleefully shows it to her! Did I call her a bitch yet? Wow at her blatant bitchiness! :mad:

Tootie is mega pissed and realizes who her true friend is and storms out to find Nat and apologize.

They were already in the midst of making up when Beverly tells this made up story about a fictional best friend she had named "Harriet" who she never heard from again and missed. I don't know why she did that since they were resolving their fight by then anyway but it was still touching that she still wanted to help them.

Blair suspected it was BS and asked Beverly if she made it up and she's all "What do you think?" and triumphantly heads up the stairs like she brought Nat & Tootie back together when that's exactly what they were doing anyway. :lol:

There's a funny side story where Jo hurt Blair's ankle and she's laid up on the couch taking advantage of Jo's guilt throughout the episode....until the end when Jo finally catches her walking and Blair hysterically smacks her forehead shouting "I'm healed! Hallejulah!" LOL. It was just funny the way she did it. :lol:

I liked this one a lot and now I know what 80's meant with "NOTD" in his earlier post...."Not Our Type Dear"....Ha!...I just did a search of those initials to see if that's really a saying and when searching for NOTD, I see they're actually a Swedish singing duo! :brent

Onto the next one...."Post Christmas Card" 🎄

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 10:18 PM

The only one that acted normal this whole episode was Beverly Ann who logically thought Orson Bean was cheating with another woman in a restaurant only to learn it was his sister. The whole thing was cute and I love these two together. No PODS here and it was the only story I enjoyed watching. Too bad he doesn't stay. :(

I know! He's so gosh darn likable! I really wish he'd stayed around longer.

“62 Pick up”

I never seen this one before but I LOVED it so much!

Me too!

I really can't even say how much I loved it! I think it’s one of my new favorites!! It was so much FUN!!

It is! I just rewatched after recently skipping it! :lol: I must have been so scarred by the other fantasy one I really didn't like, that I was letting it color my judgment of this one too.

I loved the costumes, the story, the hair and most of all, Beverly Ann’s “Mrs. Krebbs” character. She was hysterical there!

1) Me too! 2) It was pretty fun, yeah 3) YES! LOVED her wily totally '60s coffee-house bee-yotch, lol!

It opens with 60’s singers Bobby Rydell and Fabian knocking on the door where Tootie has the exact same reaction to them I would have had.

Hahaha! :lol: "Who?" Totally unimpressed, lol. I also loved it when Tootie croacked a wrong note at the piano and sassed, "Oo, this piano is way outta tune." lol!

FINALLY! A girl touches a piano!! It only took SEVEN YEARS for an Eastland girl to touch one!! (not counting Jo's utterly preposterous Atlantic City playing)

Who the hell these people are, I don’t know. I vaguely heard the name Fabian before and the only Rydell I know is the High School from “Grease” LOL.

Speaking of "Grease", I noticed the girls are similar to the Pink Ladies in "Grease":

Jo - Rizzo
Tootie - Frenchy
Natalie - Jan
Blair - Marty

They even had the names "Frizzo" and "Frenchy", lol. And Tootie was "Didi", and the actress who played Frenchy is named "Didi"!

To go along with the "Grease" touches, maybe instead of Fabian they could have Bobby Rydell (for "Rydell High") and Frankie Avalon, who was of course the "Teen Angel" in the movie.

Then we flash back to the 60’s and I LOL’d at all their entrances.

I knew what was coming, but those are great entrances. My biggest "LOL!" of the episode was when the girls were in disguise as house painters and they heard Bobby and Fabian say Mrs. Krebs claimed she wrote "Hot Rod Lover", and each of the 4 girls go a big "[GASP!]" in succession. It was a great humorous note! :lol:

Anyway, it was well worth waiting 33 years to finally see! I really enjoyed it and they looked like they were having fun singing Hot Rod Lover!

I bet they were---they got to play major dress-up, and sing a great tune!

This reminds me of an episode of "Sabrina, the Teenage Witch" where Sabrina makes a time ball and goes back to the '60s, but then Salem unknowingly EATS said time ball, and EVERYTHING is back to the '60s! lol...fun stuff!

Their singing at the end in the Black Bird/Over Our Heads Cafe was fun! Even Street Urchin didn't bother me in this one

He did look funny in his get-ups, especially that first "kid" one, but I kept thinking of how rotten he was to Natalie from your recap of "Write and Wrong" so I was annoyed with him, lol.

And Beverly Ann looked great at the end! I hope the girls finally told her "they're next door!"

Speaking of which, what are the odds of another building being next door that is also a half house/half store with the exact same architecture??

THAT'S IT!!

cfr, when you are seeing "POD episodes", you must be watching from when the filmed the shenanigans going on NEXT DOOR, and NOT in the "Facts" house! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 10:31 PM

"The Greek Connection"

Nat is gonna get that article even without Tootie's help! So she dons a hideous dress and wig and goes to the sorority house as "Natasha". When she meets a gamma girl who tells her she's "rushing", Nat replies that she's "Natasha...and Lithuanian." HA! (Rushing....Russian....get it? I thought it was hilarious! :lol:)

I liked that too, lol. But holy cow, Natalie looked so RIDICULOUS in that get-up! Did she think anybody would buy her in that orange clown wig???

The next day Kristen comes over and spots the article Nat is writing and swipes it! After she leaves with Tootie, Nat sees it's missing and goes off to the sorority house to fetch it back knowing damn well that bitch Kristen took it. :angryfire

Kristen denies taking it and Tootie defends her causing Nat to be deeply hurt by that and leaves very upset. Tootie then sees bitch Kristen actually did take it when she gleefully shows it to her! Did I call her a bitch yet? Wow at her blatant bitchiness! :mad:

Okay, not only was she rotten, she was stupid rotten. First of all, does she think she'd get away with taking that article out of the house when they would find out no one else did it, so it HAD to be her?? (which is pretty much what happened).

And THEN, after she lies at the sorority party she didn't take it and Nat leaves so upset, AS SOON as Nat leaves, Kristen shows Tootie the artcle---and expects her to be grateful! Hello?? Do you not think a seven-year best-friendship means anything?? Of COURSE she is gonna drop your snobby hot potato and go back to her TRUE friend.

(this also reminds of an episode of "Mama's Family" where a new female friend, Arlene, comes between Mama and Iola's friendship)

They were already in the midst of making up when Beverly tells this made up story about a fictional best friend she had named "Harriet" who she never heard from again and missed. I don't know why she did that since they were resolving their fight by then anyway but it was still touching that she still wanted to help them.

Blair suspected it was BS and asked Beverly if she made it up and she's all "What do you think?" and triumphantly heads up the stairs like she brought Nat & Tootie back together when that's exactly what they were doing anyway. :lol:

Lol, I didn't get the sense that everything was already hunky dory, but there was still some "friend awkwardness" there, so B.A. shared that story to seal the deal. BUT...the question is open-ended...was there really a Harriet? What do YOU think?...;)

(okay, I don't think so, lol)

It was sweet the way she slyly posed that question to Blair though. :)

There's a funny side story where Jo hurt Blair's ankle and she's laid up on the couch taking advantage of Jo's guilt throughout the episode....until the end when Jo finally catches her walking and Blair hysterically smacks her forehead shouting "I'm healed! Hallejulah!" LOL. It was just funny the way she did it. :lol:

Yes! A classic sitcom staple, but done so well here. And Lisa totally let fly her Texas accent and let it wash out the floodgates with that line! :lol:

I just wish they had let the Jo/Blair chase go a few more seconds though before they freeze framed it. :nod:

I liked this one a lot and now I know what 80's meant with "NOTD" in his earlier post...."Not Our Type Dear"....Ha!...I just did a search of those initials to see if that's really a saying and when searching for NOTD, I see they're actually a Swedish singing duo! :brent

Lol! And Blair, "Are they still using that?" like it was cute, lol. An "NOTD sorority" Google search turns up nothing, so they must have just made it up for the script.

But yeah I do love having that NOTD memory from this one. It's random, but vivid! :lol:

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 11:13 PM

I know! He's so gosh darn likable! I really wish he'd stayed around longer.

Was this his last episode? It's a shame if it was because they had great chemistry together.

It is! I just rewatched after recently skipping it! :lol: I must have been so scarred by the other fantasy one I really didn't like, that I was letting it color my judgment of this one too.

I'm glad rewatching it changed your mind on it! Earlier it sounded like you could take it or leave it, and I was shocked because the whole episode is just so lighthearted and fun. :)

FINALLY! A girl touches a piano!! It only took SEVEN YEARS for an Eastland girl to touch one!! (not counting Jo's utterly preposterous Atlantic City playing)

Beverly Ann and Street Urchin played it too but I guess they don't count?

Speaking of "Grease", I noticed the girls are similar to the Pink Ladies in "Grease":

Jo - Rizzo
Tootie - Frenchy
Natalie - Jan
Blair - Marty

They even had the names "Frizzo" and "Frenchy", lol. And Tootie was "Didi", and the actress who played Frenchy is named "Didi"!

Yes! I thought the same thing...a FOL version of the Pink Ladies lol! And Jo earlier making fun of the 60's behives and then she makes her entrance in a huge one on her head! :rofl:

To go along with the "Grease" touches, maybe instead of Fabian they could have Bobby Rydell (for "Rydell High") and Frankie Avalon, who was of course the "Teen Angel" in the movie.

Frankie Avalon I would've at least recognized! And wasn't it weird how when they told Tootie they were on Ed Sullivan and she's like "Who?"....Sorry, but she's an obsessed actress and would surely have heard of Ed Sullivan. I mean she's this huge Bette Davis fan already so we know she's not that ignorant to Old Hollywood.

He did look funny in his get-ups, especially that first "kid" one, but I kept thinking of how rotten he was to Natalie from your recap of "Write and Wrong" so I was annoyed with him, lol.

That kid is forever dead to me after that episode! Dead! :mad:

And Beverly Ann looked great at the end! I hope the girls finally told her "they're next door!"

All they could've done was open the front door again since she came down literally the second they left. My God, they were probably still in the walkway wondering why there's a moving garage that keeps shifting back and forth! :lol:

Speaking of which, what are the odds of another building being next door that is also a half house/half store with the exact same architecture??

I didn't understand when the girls were like "there is no third floor"....Isn't that where an ATTIC usually goes?! I'm serious that house is a freaking SHAPESHIFTER! :lol:

cfr, when you are seeing "POD episodes", you must be watching from when the filmed the shenanigans going on NEXT DOOR, and NOT in the "Facts" house! :lol:

Could be!....It's a POD HOUSE! :ufo:

:brent

cfr1970

05-05-2020, 11:27 PM

I liked that too, lol. But holy cow, Natalie looked so RIDICULOUS in that get-up! Did she think anybody would buy her in that orange clown wig???

She looked ridiculous and was this an outfit she just had laying around the house?! :eek:

Okay, not only was she rotten, she was stupid rotten. First of all, does she think she'd get away with taking that article out of the house when they would find out no one else did it, so it HAD to be her?? (which is pretty much what happened).

And THEN, after she lies at the sorority party she didn't take it and Nat leaves so upset, AS SOON as Nat leaves, Kristen shows Tootie the artcle---and expects her to be grateful! Hello?? Do you not think a seven-year best-friendship means anything?? Of COURSE she is gonna drop your snobby hot potato and go back to her TRUE friend.

I think she saw how Tootie was giving the brush off to Nat earlier when Tootie introduced the two and got the mistaken impression that they weren't that close. Tootie was kind of "whatever" with Nat when they were all on the couch.

And what I didn't like was how bitchy Kristen was kind of rude to Nat and Tootie did nothing to stick up for her or stop it. I guess she let it go because she wanted to impress her for the sorority but I could see how Nat would be hurt by it.

And I almost forgot....we learn here that Snake's real name....is Snake?! What the hell? :eek:

(this also reminds of an episode of "Mama's Family" where a new female friend, Arlene, comes between Mama and Iola's friendship)

That show is on my list of dvd's to get. But I have way too much on my plate to watch as it is! :lol:

Lol, I didn't get the sense that everything was already hunky dory, but there was still some "friend awkwardness" there, so B.A. shared that story to seal the deal. BUT...the question is open-ended...was there really a Harriet? What do YOU think?...;)

(okay, I don't think so, lol)

It was sweet the way she slyly posed that question to Blair though. :)

I really like how Beverly tries to do her best to help the girls. She's no Mrs. Garrett but I think she comes damn close...after all she is her sister! :heart:

I just wish they had let the Jo/Blair chase go a few more seconds though before they freeze framed it. :nod:

I bet a lot of Blair & Jo shippers on that freeze frame were like "Ooh, they're running up to the bedroom and Jo's gonna finally give it to Blair" :lol::lol:

Lol! And Blair, "Are they still using that?" like it was cute, lol. An "NOTD sorority" Google search turns up nothing, so they must have just made it up for the script.

But yeah I do love having that NOTD memory from this one. It's random, but vivid! :lol:

If you just do a search on NOTD you get that Swedish singing duo though! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 11:44 PM

Was this his last episode? It's a shame if it was because they had great chemistry together.

Yes, I'm afraid it is. :(

I'm glad rewatching it changed your mind on it!

Well, I remember I liked it last time I saw it, I just "thought" I didn't because I really didn't like the other fantasy one they did. I just needed this reminder that I do like it! :lol:

Earlier it sounded like you could take it or leave it, and I was shocked because the whole episode is just so lighthearted and fun. :)

Well so is "Seven Little Indians" but that doesn't stop YOU! :lol:

Beverly Ann and Street Urchin played it too but I guess they don't count?

No, this stems from something you will see starting with the first episode: In that entire first season there is a piano right there in the common room, and not one girl in the dorm plays it. You expect me to believe that out of SEVEN girls living together in a private dorm away from home, in the 1970s, with a PIANO right there, not ONE of them plays it? Yeah, right.

Yes! I thought the same thing...a FOL version of the Pink Ladies lol! And Jo earlier making fun of the 60's behives and then she makes her entrance in a huge one on her head! :rofl:

Yes! :lol:

Frankie Avalon I would've at least recognized! And wasn't it weird how when they told Tootie they were on Ed Sullivan and she's like "Who?"....Sorry, but she's an obsessed actress and would surely have heard of Ed Sullivan. I mean she's this huge Bette Davis fan already so we know she's not that ignorant to Old Hollywood.

Ha! Good call---for Pete's sake, everybody knew The Beatles made a smash entrance into America on his show!

My God, they were probably still in the walkway wondering why there's a moving garage that keeps shifting back and forth! :lol:

:rofl:

I didn't understand when the girls were like "there is no third floor"....Isn't that where an ATTIC usually goes?! I'm serious that house is a freaking SHAPESHIFTER! :lol:

Lol, yes, but the attic was on the second floor here, remember? (odd though that is!)

Could be!....It's a POD HOUSE! :ufo:

:brent

It MUST be!! :lol:

'80sSitcoms

05-05-2020, 11:50 PM

That show is on my list of dvd's to get. But I have way too much on my plate to watch as it is! :lol:

Well, I'm afraid the box set wasn't closed captioned, so I don't know that the individual sets are. :(

If you just do a search on NOTD you get that Swedish singing duo though! :lol:

Yes, I saw, pronounced "noted". :lol:

Oh! Speaking of pronounciations, did you notice that Beverly Ann pronounced capri ("caPREE") pants as "CAP-ry" pants?? I've never heard anyone do that! :lol:

RetroGuy2000

05-06-2020, 12:32 AM

Thanks Retro! :wave:

And I know what you mean because I see valentina is a season behind and when I read her reviews of season 7 episodes, i'm already like "I forgot that part!" and I just watched that season 2 weeks ago lol. So it's easy to forget after a while! (I still love reading your season 7 reviews valentina so keep them coming! I love seeing everyone else's opinions on the episodes :wave:)

I'm sure when I get to season 1 the thread will be buzzing!! 🐝
Oh yes. Buzz, buzz, buzz!

Every Sue Ann episode, Lorimar and I will be chiming in. Every Blair episode, '80s Sitcoms, Valentina, and I will be chiming in. Every Molly episode, '80sSitcoms will be chiming in. Every Cindy episode, '80sSitcoms and I will be chiming in. We'll all chime in on the Natalie and Tootie episodes. Every Nancy episode... well, there aren't any Nancy episodes in S1, although she shares one with Sue Ann.

cfr1970

05-06-2020, 12:37 AM

Well, I remember I liked it last time I saw it, I just "thought" I didn't because I really didn't like the other fantasy one they did. I just needed this reminder that I do like it! :lol:

I'm really glad! I'd hate to think i'm the only one who likes this one! I had a smile on my face watching it today and again tonight when I replayed it. I just found it so fun and happy. So far you're the only one i've heard give an opinion about this one and i'm curious what everyone else thinks about it. I'd be so sad if someone trashes it!....Go ahead....I dare you! :lol:

Well so is "Seven Little Indians" but that doesn't stop YOU! :lol:

But people were being KILLED in that one! That doesn't exactly make me feel all warm and cozy inside watching it. I guess I don't want murder in my sitcoms. :crazy::happyface

No, this stems from something you will see starting with the first episode: In that entire first season there is a piano right there in the common room, and not one girl in the dorm plays it. You expect me to believe that out of SEVEN girls living together in a private dorm away from home, in the 1970s, with a PIANO right there, not ONE of them plays it?

I'm going to be watching out for this piano and all the little things i've seen mentioned here about season 1...like the Globe, the Grandfather Clock....all these things will finally make sense! Oh and the pay phone...I think someone says it appears and disappears? :eek:

Ha! Good call---for Pete's sake, everybody knew The Beatles made a smash entrance into America on his show!

Tootie's only 10 months older than me, and even I knew who Ed Sullivan was when I was her age. Though not knowing Fabian and Bobby Rydell was entirely believable. Even today I had to Google them to find out who they were before I watched the episode. I mean I heard those names but that's just about all my knowledge of those two.

Lol, yes, but the attic was on the second floor here, remember? (odd though that is!)

That's due to the SHAPESHIFTING going on of the house because when creppy panty sniffing Kevin lived there, the attic was shown to be on top of the girl's room.
If I remember correctly, Jo looked up towards the ceiling when he played his Disco music, and I think there was a staircase that led to the attic doorway where Blair fell through the wall when the house SHAPESHIFTED again and moved the door to the fourth wall.

Now that I have the dvd's I can just pop in the episode in the morning to check it! I'm SO happy to finally have them!! And I love the little booklet that comes with it with all the episodes with air dates. :heart:

And thankfully so far every episode i've watched tonight played fine with no freezes or skipping, so i'm keeping my fingers crossed I got a good set that will have no issues playing everything. (I bought it used "Like New" for just $46.85 and so far worth every penny!!)

cfr1970

05-06-2020, 12:46 AM

Well, I'm afraid the box set wasn't closed captioned, so I don't know that the individual sets are. :(

Well, that sucks! (Isn't that how Mama would've said it? LOL)

Yes, I saw, pronounced "noted". :lol:

Oh! Speaking of pronounciations, did you notice that Beverly Ann pronounced capri ("caPREE") pants as "CAP-ry" pants?? I've never heard anyone do that! :lol:

Maybe that's how they actually pronounced them back in the 60's? After all, Cloris would know since she actually lived them and probably really did wear CAP-ry pants! :lol:

I've never heard them pronounced that way either come to think of it. But i'm leaning to believe Cloris would know the correct pronunciation from that time and purposely used it in that way rather than made a mistake? :confused:

cfr1970

05-06-2020, 12:49 AM

Oh yes. Buzz, buzz, buzz!

Every Sue Ann episode, Lorimar and I will be chiming in. Every Blair episode, '80s Sitcoms, Valentina, and I will be chiming in. Every Molly episode, '80sSitcoms will be chiming in. Every Cindy episode, '80sSitcoms and I will be chiming in. We'll all chime in on the Natalie and Tootie episodes. Every Nancy episode... well, there aren't any Nancy episodes in S1, although she shares one with Sue Ann.

There are no Nancy episodes in season 1?! How come? Isn't she the one who was the main focus in Girls School who almost got kicked out of Eastland? I guess it's because there were too many girls for everyone to get a story? Poor Nancy lol.

OHHH! I just remembered the "Nancy got Nancied" that people say here. Is THAT where it stems from?

'80sSitcoms

05-06-2020, 01:07 AM

I'm really glad! I'd hate to think i'm the only one who likes this one!

Why not?? I'm the only one who gets warm fuzzies over "Brian and Sylvia"! :lol:

But people were being KILLED in that one! That doesn't exactly make me feel all warm and cozy inside watching it. I guess I don't want murder in my sitcoms. :crazy::happyface

:lol:, I get you, but it's because it's all a dream, in a "Twilight Zone" parody, that just screams "Halloweentime", that makes it okay for me, lol.

And I just adore Beverly Ann's cocoa scene!! :lol: (Lorimar, where you are?? You like this one! You like Beverly Ann!)

I'm going to be watching out for this piano and all the little things i've seen mentioned here about season 1...like the Globe, the Grandfather Clock....all these things will finally make sense! Oh and the pay phone...I think someone says it appears and disappears? :eek:

I'll go on and tell you the piano is in the background, between the staircase and the back door. There, now you know where it is! lol :wave:

That's due to the SHAPESHIFTING going on of the house because when creppy panty sniffing Kevin lived there, the attic was shown to be on top of the girl's room.
If I remember correctly, Jo looked up towards the ceiling when he played his Disco music, and I think there was a staircase that led to the attic doorway where Blair fell through the wall when the house SHAPESHIFTED again and moved the door to the fourth wall.

Oohhhh, okay, yeah, see, I forgot about the other stairs going up to it. Wow. A half-house/ half-store with location-shifting attic and garage. No wonder Mrs. Garrett could afford it! :lol:

I'm SO happy to finally have them!! And I love the little booklet that comes with it with all the episodes with air dates. :heart:

Yay! :bighug:

And thankfully so far every episode i've watched tonight played fine with no freezes or skipping, so i'm keeping my fingers crossed I got a good set that will have no issues playing everything. (I bought it used "Like New" for just $46.85 and so far worth every penny!!)

:clap:

'80sSitcoms

05-06-2020, 01:14 AM

Well, that sucks! (Isn't that how Mama would've said it? LOL)

Maybe somethin' like, "Eunice, these discs ain't closed captioned! Well hell, I might as well just watch my wrestlin' reruns."

Maybe that's how they actually pronounced them back in the 60's? After all, Cloris would know since she actually lived them and probably really did wear CAP-ry pants! :lol:

I've never heard them pronounced that way either come to think of it. But i'm leaning to believe Cloris would know the correct pronunciation from that time and purposely used it in that way rather than made a mistake? :confused:

I've never heard anyone say that though, not in any old TV documentaries that mention Mary Tyler Moore's capri pants on "The Dick Van Dyke Show" or anything. I just Googled the pronunciation, and it is "kuh-PREE", though Italians say "KAH-pri". So maybe Beverly Ann was trying to be "cute" saying "CAP-ry"?? :confused:

'80sSitcoms

05-06-2020, 01:16 AM

There are no Nancy episodes in season 1?!

Nope. There's only half of one.

How come?

Ask the writers!

Isn't she the one who was the main focus in Girls School who almost got kicked out of Eastland? I guess it's because there were too many girls for everyone to get a story? Poor Nancy lol.

1) Yes, and 2) Well, they claim it's "too many girls". We claim it's unbalanced writing and poor script supervision. You'll notice in the FOL Writer's Database that's a stickied thread here at this board that no fewer than a dozen writers were involved in those 13 episodes! That's :cuckoo

OHHH! I just remembered the "Nancy got Nancied" that people say here. Is THAT where it stems from?

You're catchin' on cfr!! :nod:

RetroGuy2000

05-06-2020, 01:27 AM

There are no Nancy episodes in season 1?! How come? Isn't she the one who was the main focus in Girls School who almost got kicked out of Eastland? I guess it's because there were too many girls for everyone to get a story? Poor Nancy lol.

OHHH! I just remembered the "Nancy got Nancied" that people say here. Is THAT where it stems from?

Yes. TGS focuses on Nancy, and much of the early promotion for the show, in newspaper articles, focused on Nancy as one of the "lead girls". Nancy even appears first, alongside Blair, in the opening credits. But in the show itself, "IQ" is the only episode where she has a significant number of lines, which she shares with Sue Ann. And then never again that season.

In one documentary, Felice (who played Nancy) states that she went to the producers and asked why her role had been "severely diminished" (her exact words). Al Burton told her that they were still working on developing her character.

They did give her an invisible boyfriend, Roger, but that was it. When the show came back from hiatus to air again in March, Nancy still had a very small role; she was lucky to get ten lines per episode, and in some, it might have been as little as five. In the last few episodes of the season, Nancy is sent off somewhere during most of the episode, or she just stands in the background of the scene, without any lines. In the final episode of the first season, she doesn't make it into "The Group", and she's not even shown in the final scene, when Mrs. Garrett hugs the girls in what she calls "our group" (Molly and Cindy are also missing there).

Over the summer, the producers decided to whittle down the cast. One newspaper article stated that Nancy would be retained. However, every documentary states that although she was the first girl cast on the show, Nancy/Felice was also the first let go.

Mindy later said that Felice "got a bum deal". We don't know why the producers Nancied Nancy; all we know is that they definitely did, and if you watch carefully, you can see it happening, especially as the season goes along. By the end of the season, her lines are like, "I'm going out, Mrs. Garrett." And then she leaves the scene. :eek:

So, we know Felice was upset about the direction things were going with her character, but whatever made them decide to reduce her role, that is what happened. Every other girl gets her own moment in the sun, but Nancy only gets half an episode to shine.

Lorimar Television

05-06-2020, 01:38 AM

I read every one of your reviews, but sometimes, I can't think of too much to say. I'd venture to guess that Lorimar and Valentina are reading, as well, since they responded.

Sometimes I can't think of too much to say because I haven't watched the episode recently; that's certainly true of much of Seasons 7-9, which have a lower quality than the first six seasons, when the new producers decided to scrap the Norman Lear format and go for more fantasy-themed episodes. Sometimes, there's not much more to say than, "Yeah, this episode wasn't good. There were problems with the script, wardrobe, set, and direction, and the girls even looked bored with the episode." But I did offer suggestions on how they could have easily fixed the plagiarism episode, as well as comments about The Little Chill.

I'll be looking forward to your Season 1 review, though, because that is my personal favorite. So, please keep posting the reviews, and when you get around to Season 1, I'll be much more engaged.

Yes i agree, I don’t have as much to add either but I do read the reviews

RetroGuy2000

05-06-2020, 01:42 AM

1) Yes, and 2) Well, they claim it's "too many girls". We claim it's unbalanced writing and poor script supervision. You'll notice in the FOL Writer's Database that's a stickied thread here at this board that no fewer than a dozen writers were involved in those 13 episodes! That's :cuckoo

There definitely was unbalanced writing.

RetroGuy2000

05-06-2020, 01:43 AM

Yes i agree, I don’t have as much to add either but I do read the reviews

I suspected as much, Lorimar! :wave:

Lorimar Television

05-06-2020, 01:44 AM

cfr1970

05-06-2020, 01:51 AM

"Post Christmas Card" or more like "Natalie Goes Postal" :lol:

I may as well get this one out while it's fresh in my head before I go to sleep!

It's after New Year's (Happy 1987! I was actually expecting a Christmas episode from the title!) and Jo & Blair are taking down the tree with Jo tossing the ornaments to Blair like they're little footballs. What's the hell's wrong with her?! Did she get coal in her stocking the week before?!

Beverly Ann rushes in to tell her that the ornaments are fragile and starts to tell a story about it and Blair & Jo give her a look!---Turns out Beverly Ann's New Year's Resolution is no more St. Olaf Stories (I know they're not, but it's what I like to call them!) and Beverly Ann stops herself and holds back.

Of course she caves later on! Jo's resolution is to not insult Blair...another guaranteed cave coming! And Blair's resolution is no dating on school nights. This seems an easy one to win the pot with but Blair caves too and I don't know why. I mean dating on weeknights isn't really convenient!

But it's Blair and Friday's and Saturdays just aren't enough when you're SO damn popular! :lol:

Street Urchin brings in the mail and Natalie gets a credit card offer from the bank with a $3,000 limit that she initially balks at until Blair convinces her to take it and discover the joys of credit card debt. Easy when you're made of money Blair!

Natalie accepts the card and all hell breaks loose! But before that happens, she needs just a little more pushing from BLAIR! This is the second time she goads Natalie to burn a hole in her wallet with this card. I know her intentions are to be helpful....but she's forgetting that SHE'S rich, not Natalie!

For some reason that makes absolutely no sense in the entire world except that NBC was too lazy to build a store set for them to shop in...they go into Over Our Heads to begin Nat's shopping spree. :rolleyes:

She picks out a pair of ugly $4.98 fuzzy ear muffs that she gets giddy over lol. Blair is all "What's wrong with you? Pick something EXPENSIVE!" I swear she's like the proverbial devil on Nat's shoulder here! :devil:

Impressionable Natalie feels dumb now with her silly earmuffs, and there just so happens to be a $50 leather bound appointment book on sale next to the inflatable penguins and right where they're standing that would be perfect for Natalie to buy!

At first Nat is all "Why would I spend $50 on a book to write "Buy rye bread" in?! But Devil Blair is on her shoulder telling her all the wonderful things she can write in it...like how much debt she's going to be in after all this is over! :lol:

She buys it and that train has left the station at full speed and cannot be stopped until it flies off the rails in the final scene! Wheee!

She buys a $300 business suit that is butt UGLY but Devil Blair ooh's and ahh's over it....while Jo makes fun of it lol. (But we learn she's only directing her Blair insults towards Natalie to win the resolution bet).

Tootie appears and loves the ugly suit too and shamelessly asks the price. Oh Tootie, have you no tact?! :bonk:

When she hears the price she's all set to blow....but can't! See...HER resolution is to not meddle LOL! So as much as she wants to explode here, she can't and has to keep her mouth shut. Ha!

There's more spending going on. Nat treats important people to a business lunch at Windows on the World (which was the restaurant that was on top of the World Trade Center. I never ate there myself, but worked in a cafeteria there for a day as a temp job in 1989 on like the 100th floor serving slop to the business people. It was SO degrading I lasted only that one day lol...That's MY St. Olaf story for the evening!)

She also comes home with a ton of boxes to the horror of Tootie who looks like she's going to BURST with meddling, but deflects it to Jo in desperation---who pretty much tells Nat she's gone apeshit and needs help.

Even DEVIL BLAIR finally says "You went too far Nat"....oh, NOW you tell the poor girl after goading her on to do all this! This really was all Blair's fault you know! But to her credit, in the end she took the blame as she should have and offered to bail her out when her bill came to $1,994 out of the $3,000 available. (I've done worse than that myself...but THAT'S a St. Olaf story i'm not sharing!)

Tootie finally caved on her resolution and told Natalie to stop and return everything, but she can't because it was all bought on sale. (They'd still accept returns on sale items! That made no sense!)

Natalie sees the light and gives her card to Beverly who says she'll hide it and Natalie is relieved her postal crazed spending is finally over....Until Street Urchin makes his appearance. puke:

This is the part of the show that literally made me LOL though....because Nat opens the front door and when she sees Andy there she says "What are you doing here?"...I HOWLED at that!

Um, he's ALWAYS there around the damn clock! Where have you been Natalie?! I saw MIndy Cohn had a look on her face like she was gonna laugh when she asked that---perhaps it was written as a joke since the character is always there that when she asks it, it's funny and so out of place! :lol:

He turns on the TV to Crazy Lou (a hybrid of a Home Shopping Channel and Crazy Eddie who played in annoying commercials in the 70's & 80's in the NYC area....does anyone else remember him?)

Anyway, he's hawking a word processor that makes Nat go off the rails again...along with the whole train...as she tears apart the house looking for that precious credit card. She's a fiend here and scaring Urchin so much he flees the house in fear! (Nat should do this all the time permanently to keep him away!)

The group comes home to the wreckage and is horrified. Nat has a .45 and demands the credit card from Beverly or they all die on the spot.....Ok that didn't happen, but wouldn't that have been quite an interesting turn of events?

Beverly had the card the whole time and gives it to Nat saying she's a grown woman and can make her own decisions. Nat takes the card out of her hand and races for the phone to call Crazy Lou.

Tootie tries to reason with her, but Nat swipes her away telling her "get out of my life and shut up!" And everybody does shut up and freezes in horror just staring at poor crazy psycho Nat because she's totally gone off the deep end!

She finally realizes that her behavior has reached straitjacket level (Tootie had a great line about that earlier that I can't remember now! This is why I have to review right after seeing it lol)

Anyway, she has seen the light and cuts up the card. Oh and they all lost their bets but Natalie (what the hell WAS her resolution anyway?! I don't even know if it was ever said!) In any case, she wins the $100 pot and instead of applying it to her credit card bill like a good mature adult, she takes them all out to dinner with it. LOL...Go Nat!! :lol:

I really like this one and seeing Natalie go crazy was fun. Oh there's an ongoing joke where Blair is getting all these wonderful date opportunities and has to turn them all down...at one point she wonders aloud that "This is how nuns must feel."....Um that makes NO sense Blair since nuns are virgins and so are you! Or are you? If you can't identify with a nun, what are you not telling the rest of us? You hypocrite you! You've been Snaked before Natalie! I knew it. :lol::lol:

Oh she lost the bet when she snuck out on a study date at a library...then to a restaurant afterwards. And Jo of course loses hers when she lets the insults fly to Blair. A really fun and solid episode!! :wave: