Permitted by invite only.

As it read on Cheers and as it will always be....
"This is a Square House. Please report any un-fairness to the proprietor."


http://www.hurryupandwait.net/webphotos/bebe2.JPGhttp://www.rochestergoesout.com/mov/l/libert.jpg
Just plain perfect.


Pirate Jenny's Ground Rules:
1. This is NOT a Frith club. If you are a Frith, knock yourself out. Enjoy yourself. Go buy yourself an ice cream cone. But we're talkin' about an individual here, not a couple.
2. Everyone is required to know the story of the Original Lilith, if only because it's so cool.
3. Swearing is fine (As far as sitcomsonline.com will let us) but don't be vulgar. I can't think of anything more abhorrant than vulgarity.
4. If you come across anything interesting related to Lilith, tell us about it!
5. There is a difference between being honest and being just plain mean. Be the former, never the latter. Never hurt a person out of spite, but feel free to tell them what they need to hear. Or if they just need to shut up. That's cool too.
6. Starting a war is nice and fun, but don't destroy threads on other boards that were not started with an intention for war. Unless it's Full House. Full House blows. Also, don't expect the president to go over to every freakin' war and help. The president is far too lazy/has far too many classes

The president reserves the right to exercise martial law whenever she sees fit.


The Epic That Is, Lilith
Lilith was created at the same time as Adam, of the same material. Lilith refused to lay beneath Adam during copulation, while he insisted that she yield to his needs. Big Fight, she leaves. Shacks up with some demons by the Red Sea. G-d sends angels to bring her back to Adam. She refuses to return, as a result of her refusal, all of her children are killed, and as revenge, Lilith preys on newborn boys under 8 days of age (or until his brit milah or bris) and newborn girls under 20 days.

This is the most an average person of Jewish faith will know of the story. However, there are many more layers to be considered.

Her story actually predates the Bible, and (like many old stories) bits and pieces of what may have been different stories have come together to form one. Lilith may be composed of many different women, but over the aeons, she has been condensed into one person. She is known as Lilith, Lilit, Lilitu, Lillake, Lili, and, to the Greeks, Lamia.
While she is known mainly as the first wife of Adam, many other identities and stories swirl around her central being.

-After the loss of her children, she becomes jelaous of new mothers and takes their children, in a desperate attempt to regain her place as a mother. For millenia, she was thought of as the cause of SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). Talismen were placed in a baby's cradle, with inscription saying "Bind Lilith In Chains!" or "'Adam and Eve. Out, Lilith!'" in Hebrew.

-When Cain killed Abel, it is said that Adam seperated from Eve for 130 years, and attempted to remain celebate, not wanting to bring more murder to the world. During these years of solitude, Lilith returned to seduce him. From this union were spawned a multitude of female demons: the "lilim," and it is said that Lilith and her progeny visit a man sleeping alone, and take from him, in his dreams, his "nocturnal emissions" (if you don't know what that is...look it up yourself, I'm trying to keep this relatively PG), from which more demons were spawned. It was because of this that medieval monks often slept holding a crucifix over their nether-areas.

-She is thought to have been the serpent that so tempted Eve

-In the Kabbala, it is said that Lilith has dominion over "children who issue from a man who has intercourse at candlelight, or with his wife naked, or at times when he is forbidden to have intercourse." Yes. That's right. Any children that were born from a man who had sex with his naked wife. I won't say anything.

-She is said to be the consort to Samael. Thats Satan to Gentiles.

-It is also said that when the Shekhina (the feminine aspect of G-d) descended from the heavens to follow her Children after their Exile from Israel, G-d (you must keep in mind that this G-d is not G-d in entirety, but simply one aspect of the whole) took Lilith as His consort.

-The Greeks took Lilith and transformed her into their Lamia who was once a lover of Zeus, and, when Hera found out, she murdered their offspring and transformed Lamia into a monster. the Lamia became obsessed with the images of her children's death, and Zeus, in an act of pity, removed her eyes to relieve her of this. In jealousy, Lamia takes to stealing newborn infants and devouring them.

-The only direct reference to Lilith in the bible is Isaiah 34:14, which reads
"Wildcats shall meet with hyenas,
goat-demons shall call to each other;
there too Lilith shall repose,
and find a place to rest.
There shall the owl nest
and lay and hatch and brood in its shadow"

this was later changed (in the King James Version, at least) to

"the screech owl also shall rest there,
and find for herself a place of rest."

Lilith was often associated with owls, in fact, the earliest known artifact related to Lilith: a nearly 4000 year old Babylonian relief of her, has her standing between two owls. This relief was found in southern Iraq sometime in the early 20th century, and is now on display at the British Museum.

As you can see, Lilith has garnered quite a bad reputation in her long life, and is only recently being embraced by a number of women (Jewish or not) as a stong role model. Literally, the world's first uppity, independent woman. It has been posited (by me, at least), that the Patriarchal society of old demonised Lilith as a way to keep women from following her example and leaving their husbands, and, this was best executed by villifying Lilith and making her a threat to that which was a woman's foremost priority: her children. She was a beautiful, fiercely intelligent women who refused to bow to her husband's will, and for this she has been vilified, defamed, and spat upon for centuries, violently repudiated by her own gender, but has emerged, on the other side, still just as vibrant, and with an ever growing embracement amongst modern women.



MEMBERS:
Pirate Jenny (President and Founder)
Dulcineah1 (Village Elder)
Chambers
ThirteenInchEscape
Frasier'sHairyMan
barwars
Petrie Malone
BebeSternin
slackermonkey
and Moondance (I guess)

Goddamn right!

Barwars, you rock, like, so much.

Good lord I'm in a jovial mood today.

Oh yeah...and where's the rope ladder?

I'm in. So...what do we do now?

Originally posted by Chambers
I'm in. So...what do we do now?

Well, obviously we have to build a rope ladder to get into our clubhouse.

like any club, sit around (pretty much doing nothing) -- only to make other people feel less important, because they dont belong.

Is that a metaphorical rope ladder...or a real one? Because the former would be much cheaper.

Meanwhile, look at all those losers who aren't part of the club. Hm, I feel more important already.

I'm joining, and with me I'm bringing a theoretical rope ladder

OH my god you guys, I just got back from being sociable for two days.
Two. Whole. Days.
But now, I'm back, and we can proceed with our club.
Methinks we need a consitution. And elected officials.
But I'm far too tired to deal with that tonight...its 3am and I just got home.

I learned many things this weekend. One of those is that if you go to a midnight showing of Rocky Horror (which I hadn't done in like...over 2 years), ya just hafta get used to drunk people puking on the seat behind you.
Ew.

Yeah. Now back to official club business.

my friend Alysia was just at a midnight showing of Rocky Horror in Spokane friday night, I havnt seen it/gone

You guys should create an "official" logo. I'm sure Chambers or one of you computer generated picture whizzes could do that. ;)

My attempt at a logo.

That stands for "God, Lilith is so F*cking cool."

This club rocks.

I love yalls' group name.:lol:

Originally posted by popcornperson2002
I love yalls' group name.:lol:

periacta is the genius behind it all.
We need more logo ideas, people.
periacta, I vote you write our constitution. And I vote you become our president...since you pretty much are Lilith.

I vote Periacta for president also

Originally posted by Chambers
periacta is the genius behind it all.
We need more logo ideas, people.
periacta, I vote you write our constitution. And I vote you become our president...since you pretty much are Lilith.

Sounds grand to me.
and yes, I am a genius, thank you.
I'll be working on the constitution tonight.

I love the logo by the way.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
I love the logo by the way.

me too.

so am I in for sure, I need to know before i put it in my sig :)

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
so am I in for sure, I need to know before i put it in my sig :)

Haha Anybody who thinks Lilith is the perfect woman must belong in this club.

Lilith is beautiful, smart, and hilarious /swoon


then again, I find Diane appealing too, even though she is completely batty.



I dont get how guys can be intimidated by intelligent women.

Oh well, maybe it will end up steering them my direction ;)




btw: we should most certainly start an AIM chatroom, since we are obviously the most intelligent people on these boards :P

Wait...what logo are we loving?
I wanna see!

Chambers posted it on the last page, since it is attached i cant just quote it

Yeah, it's back there.

Hey I'm feeling a little uneasy without rules. We need rules. Where's that constitution, periacta? Don't you know teenagers crave discipline?

I want to join this club, too! Lilith is the BEST!


Feen

Originally posted by Moondance
I want to join this club, too! Lilith is the BEST!


Feen

We all know who you plan on voting for in the "Frasier & Lilith vs. Niles & Daphne" thread.
Sorry, no thanks.



Any other takers??

Originally posted by barwars
We all know who you plan on voting for in the "Frasier & Lilith vs. Niles & Daphne" thread.
Sorry, no thanks.



Any other takers??

Ah, fine!

Originally posted by Moondance
Ah, fine!

I added you to the list anyways, before you even responded.
Check the first post.

Oh, I see it - very funny with the "I guess" :lol:

Just for the record, Barwars - Yeah, I love Niles and Daphne, but if I had to choose one of them to put into office, I'd put my vote towards Lilith/Frasier!


Feen

I'm working with the rules right now.

we still need to form a chatroom so we can discuss the topics of the day, we are obviously the most culturally advanced people on these boards :P

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
we still need to form a chatroom so we can discuss the topics of the day, we are obviously the most culturally advanced people on these boards :P

We're Lilith fans.... what did you expect??

Ok, too lazy to work out a constitution right now (and Chambers, you aren't a teenager anymore, right?), but I'll lay down a few ground rules.

...


*refrains from making overused allusion to "Fight Club"*

ok...

1. This is NOT a Frith club. If you are a Frith, knock yourself out. Enjoy yourself. Go buy yourself an ice cream cone. But we're talkin' about an individual here, not a couple.
2. Everyone is required to know the story of the Original Lilith, if only because it's so cool.
3. Swearing is fine (As far as sitcomsonline.com will let us) but don't be vulgar. I can't think of anything more abhorrant than vulgarity.
4. If you come across anything interesting related to Lilith, tell us about it!
5. There is a difference between being honest and being just plain mean. Be the former, never the latter. Never hurt a person out of spite, but feel free to tell them what they need to hear. Or if they just need to shut up. That's cool too.
6. Starting a war is nice and fun, but don't destroy threads on other boards that were not started with an intention for war. Unless it's Full House. Full House blows. Also, don't expect the president to go over to every freakin' war and help. The president is far too lazy/has far too many classes.

That's all I can think of right now.
Anyone have any suggestions?



The president reserves the right to exercise martial law whenever she sees fit.

Originally posted by periacta
*refrains from making overused allusion to "Fight Club"*

Good flick, even as a straight guy.
Ohh, yeah.... good rules too.

Im a frith, but I can turn it on and off -- first and foremost comes Lilith.

Good rules.

But...


Originally posted by periacta
(and Chambers, you aren't a teenager anymore, right?),


...you're killing me. Since people don't believe me when I tell them I'm 20, I still consider myself a teenager - at least in terms of maturity :p.

Yeah, It's a goddamn great movie.

Feel free to be a Frith, but no one should feel ostracized if they find Frasier just plain creepy, either.

Originally posted by Chambers
Good rules.

But...




...you're killing me. Since people don't believe me when I tell them I'm 20, I still consider myself a teenager - at least in terms of maturity :p.

The age of 20 kind of sucks.
You're no longer a teenager.... but you still cant drink.

I agree, good rules!


I especially loved Rule 4!:) I come across Lilith information occasionally:)


Feen

Originally posted by Chambers
Good rules.

...you're killing me. Since people don't believe me when I tell them I'm 20, I still consider myself a teenager - at least in terms of maturity :p.

Ok Chambers, you can be a teenager as long as you want to.

In fact, you can be the club's official teenager.

Originally posted by barwars
The age of 20 kind of sucks.
You're no longer a teenager.... but you still cant drink.

I've been able to drink in South America since I was 18, though. But yeah it sucks when I'm in the US.

And thanks, periacta. Official Teenager I am.
Truth is I kinda skipped being a teenager. I was too uptight to do anything teenagey.

Originally posted by Chambers
I've been able to drink in South America since I was 18, though. But yeah it sucks when I'm in the US.

Thats cool, but you dont like alcohol anyways, right?

I'm not sure if i know the story of the original Lilith, enlighten me :D

X-Posting Original Lilith Info from "The Name Fits the Character" Thread.

Yes, I'm quoting myself. How's that for narcissistic?

Lilith was created at the same time as Adam, of the same material. Lilith refused to lay beneath Adam during copulation, while he insisted that she yield to his needs. Big Fight, she leaves. Shacks up with some demons by the Red Sea. G-d sends angels to bring her back to Adam. She refuses to return, as a result of her refusal, all of her children are killed, and as revenge, Lilith preys on newborn boys under 8 days of age (or until his brit milah or bris) and newborn girls under 20 days.

This is the most an average person of Jewish faith will know of the story. However, there are many more layers to be considered.

Her story actually predates the Bible, and (like many old stories) bits and pieces of what may have been different stories have come together to form one. Lilith may be composed of many different women, but over the aeons, she has been condensed into one person. She is known as Lilith, Lilit, Lilitu, Lillake, Lili, and, to the Greeks, Lamia.
While she is known mainly as the first wife of Adam, many other identities and stories swirl around her central being.

-After the loss of her children, she becomes jelaous of new mothers and takes their children, in a desperate attempt to regain her place as a mother. For millenia, she was thought of as the cause of SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome). Talismen were placed in a baby's cradle, with inscription saying "Bind Lilith In Chains!" or "'Adam and Eve. Out, Lilith!'" in Hebrew.

-When Cain killed Abel, it is said that Adam seperated from Eve for 130 years, and attempted to remain celebate, not wanting to bring more murder to the world. During these years of solitude, Lilith returned to seduce him. From this union were spawned a multitude of female demons: the "lilim," and it is said that Lilith and her progeny visit a man sleeping alone, and take from him, in his dreams, his "nocturnal emissions" (if you don't know what that is...look it up yourself, I'm trying to keep this relatively PG), from which more demons were spawned. It was because of this that medieval monks often slept holding a crucifix over their nether-areas.

-She is thought to have been the serpent that so tempted Eve

-In the Kabbala, it is said that Lilith has dominion over "children who issue from a man who has intercourse at candlelight, or with his wife naked, or at times when he is forbidden to have intercourse." Yes. That's right. Any children that were born from a man who had sex with his naked wife. I won't say anything.

-She is said to be the consort to Samael. Thats Satan to Gentiles.

-It is also said that when the Shekhina (the feminine aspect of G-d) descended from the heavens to follow her Children after their Exile from Israel, G-d (you must keep in mind that this G-d is not G-d in entirety, but simply one aspect of the whole) took Lilith as His consort.

-The Greeks took Lilith and transformed her into their Lamia who was once a lover of Zeus, and, when Hera found out, she murdered their offspring and transformed Lamia into a monster. the Lamia became obsessed with the images of her children's death, and Zeus, in an act of pity, removed her eyes to relieve her of this. In jealousy, Lamia takes to stealing newborn infants and devouring them.

-The only direct reference to Lilith in the bible is Isaiah 34:14, which reads
"Wildcats shall meet with hyenas,
goat-demons shall call to each other;
there too Lilith shall repose,
and find a place to rest.
There shall the owl nest
and lay and hatch and brood in its shadow"

this was later changed (in the King James Version, at least) to

"the screech owl also shall rest there,
and find for herself a place of rest."

Lilith was often associated with owls, in fact, the earliest known artifact related to Lilith: a nearly 4000 year old Babylonian relief of her, has her standing between two owls. This relief was found in southern Iraq sometime in the early 20th century, and is now on display at the British Museum.

As you can see, Lilith has garnered quite a bad reputation in her long life, and is only recently being embraced by a number of women (Jewish or not) as a stong role model. Literally, the world's first uppity, independent woman. It has been posited (by me, at least), that the Patriarchal society of old demonised Lilith as a way to keep women from following her example and leaving their husbands, and, this was best executed by villifying Lilith and making her a threat to that which was a woman's foremost priority: her children. She was a beautiful, fiercely intelligent women who refused to bow to her husband's will, and for this she has been vilified, defamed, and spat upon for centuries, violently repudiated by her own gender, but has emerged, on the other side, still just as vibrant, and with an ever growing embracement amongst modern women.

Originally posted by barwars
Thats cool, but you dont like alcohol anyways, right?

That is true...except I've now gotten used to red wine. It was peer pressure...from my parents. God, that's pathetic.

Originally posted by Chambers
That is true...except I've now gotten used to red wine. It was peer pressure...from my parents. God, that's pathetic.


Oh dear God!:crazy:

Is it just me or did Lilith start acting more human in Frasier?

Originally posted by Chambers
Is it just me or did Lilith start acting more human in Frasier?

I think so.
Maybe it was the fact that she was a mother, or.... her second husband did something to her.

Originally posted by barwars
I think so.
Maybe it was the fact that she was a mother, or.... her second husband did something to her.

Awesome avatar. I love that picture of her.

Originally posted by Chambers
Awesome avatar. I love that picture of her.

thanks
I do too.... she looks just like MTM in it.

Originally posted by Chambers
Is it just me or did Lilith start acting more human in Frasier?

It might also have something to do with the last episode of Cheers that she was in (too lazy to type out that long title).
She realised how much she could hurt people, and how much she could get hurt by others.

...I don't think she looks like MTM.

Originally posted by periacta
...I don't think she looks like MTM.

It reminds me of MTM in the themesong.... (maybe its just the "style" of the picture that reminds me of it)

Originally posted by barwars
It reminds me of MTM in the themesong.... (maybe its just the "style" of the picture that reminds me of it)

LMAO!!! Lilith would never throw anything up in the air unless it was Frasier! I can't even see Lilith being THAT happy! Haha!


Feen

Originally posted by barwars
It reminds me of MTM in the themesong.... (maybe its just the "style" of the picture that reminds me of it)

I didn't think of MTM specifically when I look at the picture, but I always think of something "seventies" - if that makes any sense.

Originally posted by Chambers
I didn't think of MTM specifically when I look at the picture, but I always think of something "seventies" - if that makes any sense.

Me too, and I guess I just automatically associated her with MTM

How about Lilith being Rhoda - I see Rhoda, not Mary, lol!



Feen

Originally posted by Moondance
LMAO!!! Lilith would never throw anything up in the air unless it was Frasier! I can't even see Lilith being THAT happy! Haha!


Feen

...I don't think that's Lilith...isn't it Diane from Tadpole, or am I just going crazy?

Originally posted by Moondance
How about Lilith being Rhoda - I see Rhoda, not Mary, lol!



Feen

I see more.... Lou.

Originally posted by periacta
...I don't think that's Lilith...isn't it Diane from Tadpole, or am I just going crazy?

Probably.
Its definately NOT Lilith.... but it is Bebe Neuwirth

Actually, in that picture, she reminds me of the Virgin Mary or some other saintly biblical character. I'm serious. She belongs on some Italian religious icon. I think it's her gaze - the way you can see the white under her eyes. A lot of Italian artists liked to paint that expression.

Ok I've just made this conversation really weird.

Originally posted by Chambers
Actually, in that picture, she reminds me of the Virgin Mary or some other saintly biblical character. I'm serious. She belongs on some Italian religious icon.

damn, now you make me feel guilty

Originally posted by barwars
damn, now you make me feel guilty

Haha
She can see all of your sins.

Originally posted by Chambers
Haha
She can see all of your sins.


Bwahahahaha!!!!!

Is Bebe Neuwirth jewish?
Or am I mixing her up with Lilith again??

Originally posted by barwars
Is Bebe Neuwirth jewish?
Or am I mixing her up with Lilith again??

Google search:

Lilith, Neuwirth said, wasn’t originally described as Jewish, but her Jewishness was revealed during a Chanukah show well into her “Cheers” run. When she joined “Cheers,” Neuwirth was unaware of the Lilith figure in Jewish folklore — Adam’s “insubordinate” first wife. As Neuwirth put it: “I am just a plain Jew; I mean I have no training.”

My source. (http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/22838/edition_id/457/format/html/displaystory.html)

I love the "I have no training" part.

I knew it!
Yay! We're so cool.

Originally posted by periacta
I knew it!
Yay! We're so cool.

haha

A little OT, but something I noticed -- you can't be a funny protestant.
All comics are either Jewish or Catholic.... its just a funnier lifestyle.

Originally posted by barwars
haha

A little OT, but something I noticed -- you can't be a funny protestant.
All comics are either Jewish or Catholic.... its just a funnier lifestyle.

Haha so true. I also think it has something to do with Jews and Catholics being more comfortable with making fun of their own religions...since being Jewish and Catholic is more of an ethnicity these days.

Originally posted by Chambers
Haha so true. I also think it has something to do with Jews and Catholics being more comfortable with making fun of their own religions...since being Jewish and Catholic is more of an ethnicity these days.

Yup. I honestly cant think of a protestant comic (unless they're black, not that it makes a difference) But black comics use being black to their advantage.

There's no advantage to being a white protestant (well, except that the KKK wont kill you)



Anyways.... back to Lilith.

Originally posted by barwars
haha

A little OT, but something I noticed -- you can't be a funny protestant.
All comics are either Jewish or Catholic.... its just a funnier lifestyle.

Totally true

Originally posted by Chambers
Haha so true. I also think it has something to do with Jews and Catholics being more comfortable with making fun of their own religions...since being Jewish and Catholic is more of an ethnicity these days.

It is more of an ethnicity than a religion, especially if you are a secular Jew/Catholic (i.e. me) By the way, do you Catholics have an ability to spot other Catholics from a mile away?
I know I totally have a "Jewdar."

And it serves me well.

Especially when I suspect I have a Jewish professor.

Originally posted by barwars
Yup. I honestly cant think of a protestant comic (unless they're black, not that it makes a difference) But black comics use being black to their advantage.

There's no advantage to being a white protestant (well, except that the KKK wont kill you)



Anyways.... back to Lilith.


I found something interesting about Bebe Neuwirth in Kelsey Grammer's biography - I don't have the book with me or else I'd share word for word, LOL!


Feen

Originally posted by periacta
It is more of an ethnicity than a religion, especially if you are a secular Jew/Catholic (i.e. me) By the way, do you Catholics have an ability to spot other Catholics from a mile away?
I know I totally have a "Jewdar."

And it serves me well.

Especially when I suspect I have a Jewish professor.

I have no "Cathdar"

originally posted by barwars

There's no advantage to being a white protestant (well, except that the KKK wont kill you)



You can be president.
Or CEO of a company.
Or...republican?

Originally posted by periacta
You can be president.
Or CEO of a company.
Or...republican?

OMG OMG OMG
A politcal statement has been made. Sound the alarms.

But in the meantime - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Originally posted by periacta
You can be president.
Or CEO of a company.
Or...republican?


1.... ehh
2.... ehh
3.... no thanks


Kennedy was Catholic, wait, damn, f*cking KKK killed him too

Originally posted by barwars
I have no "Cathdar"

Haha. That sounds like "catheter."


Originally posted by Chambers
OMG OMG OMG
A politcal statement has been made. Sound the alarms.

But in the meantime - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Oh No!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I'm going to be banned!

Originally posted by Chambers
OMG OMG OMG
A politcal statement has been made. Sound the alarms.

But in the meantime - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Oh dear God!!!! Hahahahaha!!!

Originally posted by barwars
I have no "Cathdar"

Me neither.

periacta, I go to a college with a lot of Jewish students who must have no Jewdar because they always think I'm Jewish. But then again...I do believe I have Jewish ancestors...so maybe the radar is picking up on that.

Originally posted by Chambers
Me neither.

periacta, I go to a college with a lot of Jewish students who must have no Jewdar because they always think I'm Jewish. But then again...I do believe I have Jewish ancestors...so maybe the radar is picking up on that.


I'm neither jewish or Catholic - actually, I'm Nazarene, LOL!

Originally posted by periacta
Haha. That sounds like "catheter."




Oh No!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I'm going to be banned!

(edited because I couldn't spell "catheter.")

I swear to god, I am having far too much trouble with these f*cking threads today.

Jews (especially on the East Coast) have whats known as "Jewography," which means that they'll know someone (or of someone) related to any Jew you happen to mention, where they live, etc, etc.

Oh lord we are so off topic I can't even see the topic anymore.
Or did we ever have a topic?

Originally posted by Moondance
I'm neither jewish or Catholic - actually, I'm Nazarene, LOL!

Not to sound like an idiot, but what is that??

Originally posted by barwars
Not to sound like an idiot, but what is that??


It's just a religion. You have Methodists, Baptists, Nazarenes...I can't really explain it now.


Feen

Originally posted by Moondance
I found something interesting about Bebe Neuwirth in Kelsey Grammer's biography - I don't have the book with me or else I'd share word for word, LOL!


Feen


You have Kelsey's book? How was it? I was going to buy one off ebay, I just wanted to know if it was worth it.







Oh, and *creeps in* can I join? LILITH IS SO F**KING COOL!!!!!!!
:)

Originally posted by Frasier'sHairyMan
Oh, and *creeps in* can I join? LILITH IS SO F**KING COOL!!!!!!!
:)

Welcome! You are now one of us.

ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

Originally posted by Frasier'sHairyMan
You have Kelsey's book? How was it? I was going to buy one off ebay, I just wanted to know if it was worth it.







Oh, and *creeps in* can I join? LILITH IS SO F**KING COOL!!!!!!!
:)

You'll have to ask barwars. He's in charge of those sort of things.
If you need someone to break curfew or get into tearful shouting matches with...that's Chambers' job. She's our official teenager.
Thirteeninchescape is off reading about the Original Lilith, or at least he was last time I heard from him, but that was like...4 hours ago.
God knows what Moondance does.
I just sit around and look important. And occasionally bomb other clubs. That's what presidents do, I hear.
If things get really rowdy around here, I'll whip out my powers of martial law and execute y'all.
Too bad all you poor suckers didn't read the fine print.

Anyway, the whole point is...ask barwars.

Originally posted by periacta
You'll have to ask barwars. He's in charge of those sort of things.
If you need someone to break curfew or get into tearful shouting matches with...that's Chambers' job. She's our official teenager.
Thirteeninchescape is off reading about the Original Lilith, or at least he was last time I heard from him, but that was like...4 hours ago.
God knows what Moondance does.
I just sit around and look important. And occasionally bomb other clubs. That's what presidents do, I hear.
If things get really rowdy around here, I'll whip out my powers of martial law and execute y'all.
Too bad all you poor suckers didn't read the fine print.

Anyway, the whole point is...ask barwars.

Then you'll have to add in that part about barwars in the Constitution. He's like our head of National Security and Immigration, keeping us safe from potential board terrorists.

Oh, and bomb away!

I'm going to a rave to get drunk. I'll be back tomorrow to bitch and whine.

I'm FAR too lazy to write a full constitution, but I'll put that in my rules post.
Yes, we have now nominated, elected, and inaugurated barwars without his consent, or...even presence.

God I love this club.

Originally posted by periacta
have an ability to spot other Catholics from a mile away?
I know I totally have a "Jewdar."

And it serves me well.




LMAO, there was a Jewish comic that was saying "Jews have the ability to spot one another from across the room, it must be a Jewdar or something....now all the black people are looking around the room saying 'yeah, well I can spot if someone is black from a mile away' "

well that was the idea


and I would imagine that both Mitch Hedberg and Dave Attel are atheists of a protestant background


there are alot of protestant comics, it's just it is never the subject of their jokes so you dont think about it.



and I dont know how I went without checking this thread for so long, I have been around the boards

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
LMAO, there was a Jewish comic that was saying "Jews have the ability to spot one another from across the room, it must be a Jewdar or something....now all the black people are looking around the room saying 'yeah, well I can spot if someone is black from a mile away' "


Hahaha

Report to the High Commission of Teenage Affairs, her excellency, the President, and members of the club:


Last night I went to a rave, got really drunk, tried some drugs (well, they turned out to be tic tacs, but the point is I was willing to try), got into a catfight, stripped and danced on tables, woke up on the floor of a 7-Eleven, stole some gum, ran home in the wee hours of the morning, whined and yelled at my parents, ran to my room and slammed the door. Well, my door isn't really "slamable" - but you can bet they were horrified by the manner in which I turned that doorknob!

There, now I've been a teenager.

Hey did this board ever strike back after the Happy Days Mafia attacked? Because it would be really cool if this club could declare war on something.

Originally posted by Chambers

Last night I went to a rave, got really drunk, tried some drugs (well, they turned out to be tic tacs, but the point is I was willing to try), got into a catfight, stripped and danced on tables, woke up on the floor of a 7-Eleven, stole some gum, ran home in the wee hours of the morning, whined and yelled at my parents, ran to my room and slammed the door. Well, my door isn't really "slamable" - but you can bet they were horrified by the manner in which I turned that doorknob!

I'm just not convinced that's true :P


do you think Barwars should be our token teenager, because I certainly dont act like one at all.




and if the people from Happy Days mess with us again I will set up snipers around the perimeter and blow the head off of the first thing that moves.

Nah, barwars doesn't even party. Or so he says.

Originally posted by Chambers
Nah, barwars doesn't even party. Or so he says.

haha

Originally posted by Chambers
Hey did this board ever strike back after the Happy Days Mafia attacked? Because it would be really cool if this club could declare war on something.

The Happy Days mafia isnt really intact anymore. Everyone started fighting... hense the closing of HD chit chat.

Originally posted by periacta
5. There is a difference between being honest and being just plain mean. Be the former, never the latter. Never hurt a person out of spite, but feel free to tell them what they need to hear. Or if they just need to shut up. That's cool too.


That reminded me of something I read in an article about Bebe. She said, "Lilith tells the truth. She lacks an editor in her head and maybe the social graces that go with it. But I never thought she was mean or bitchy. She just told the Cheers goons the way things were in there when they did their dopey things."

And barwars, what does it feel like to be Head of Club Immigration and Security?

Originally posted by Chambers
That reminded me of something I read in an article about Bebe. She said, "Lilith tells the truth. She lacks an editor in her head and maybe the social graces that go with it. But I never thought she was mean or bitchy. She just told the Cheers goons the way things were in there when they did their dopey things."

And barwars, what does it feel like to be Head of Club Immigration and Security?

I prefer to call them "New Pilgrims" rather than Immigrants.

Originally posted by barwars
I prefer to call them "New Pilgrims" rather than Immigrants.

Haha Is that the new PC term??

Originally posted by Chambers
Report to the High Commission of Teenage Affairs, her excellency, the President, and members of the club:


Last night I went to a rave, got really drunk, tried some drugs (well, they turned out to be tic tacs, but the point is I was willing to try), got into a catfight, stripped and danced on tables, woke up on the floor of a 7-Eleven, stole some gum, ran home in the wee hours of the morning, whined and yelled at my parents, ran to my room and slammed the door. Well, my door isn't really "slamable" - but you can bet they were horrified by the manner in which I turned that doorknob!

There, now I've been a teenager.


I also doubted the "reality" of that statement, but then I realised that I don't f*cking care. I mean, I'll never know the difference, so...it might as well be true.

Oh Chambers, you crazy rebellious teenager, you.

That reminded me of something I read in an article about Bebe. She said, "Lilith tells the truth. She lacks an editor in her head and maybe the social graces that go with it. But I never thought she was mean or bitchy. She just told the Cheers goons the way things were in there when they did their dopey things."

That. Was the point.

And barwars, what the hell is this PC crap? We're not supposed to be welcoming.


Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find a thread that could be concealing WLD. Weapons of Lilith Destruction.
Or just someone that I plain don't like.
(I swear this is the last very thinly veiled jab at Bush for...a while.)

Actually, this presidentin' is hard. I might go back to sleep.

Oh yeah, barwars, where'd you get that picture on the left in the first post?

I heard there were some WLD over at the That's So Raven board. I'm not sure, though. But to be safe, we should destroy them.

Originally posted by Chambers
Haha Is that the new PC term??

haha, no, I hate being PC

I stole it from Crossballs, it was an episode about illegal immigration.

Originally posted by periacta
Oh yeah, barwars, where'd you get that picture on the left in the first post?

I forget.
I was searching for pics of Bebe on google, and a site came up that had tons.
I'll try to find it.

Originally posted by periacta
You'll have to ask barwars. He's in charge of those sort of things.
If you need someone to break curfew or get into tearful shouting matches with...that's Chambers' job. She's our official teenager.
Thirteeninchescape is off reading about the Original Lilith, or at least he was last time I heard from him, but that was like...4 hours ago.
God knows what Moondance does.
I just sit around and look important. And occasionally bomb other clubs. That's what presidents do, I hear.
If things get really rowdy around here, I'll whip out my powers of martial law and execute y'all.
Too bad all you poor suckers didn't read the fine print.

Anyway, the whole point is...ask barwars.

What do I do for this Lilith fan club, huh? I feel like the outcast, lol!


Feen

Originally posted by Moondance
What do I do for this Lilith fan club, huh? I feel like the outcast, lol!


Feen

no comment

Originally posted by Moondance
What do I do for this Lilith fan club, huh? I feel like the outcast, lol!


Every man must sculpt his own destiny - or dig his own grave, if he's a pessimist.

Originally posted by Chambers
Every man must sculpt his own destiny - or dig his own grave, if he's a pessimist.

I'm an optimist... Ah, I guess I'll think of something.

Originally posted by Moondance
I'm an optimist... Ah, I guess I'll think of something.

Yeah, well...you, uh...you better.
Get to the sculpting, woman!

if it makes you feel better, I dont think i have a purpose in here either

Come on, people. We can't all have important, constructive positions like Official Teenger.

Oh, and "screw you" to all those people who didn't believe I partied last night. :rolleyes: STOP TREATING ME LIKE A KID! *slams door*

Hey, I've grown out of being a teenager. I'm the club advice-giver now. Or, better yet, the club psychiatrist. Come to me with your problems. I'm listening (well I'm not, but I'll pretend to be interested).

I'll be the clubs nihilist

come to me with your fears about existance being meaningless and I will magnify them

I shall be the club's PR Agent!

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
I'll be the clubs nihilist

come to me with your fears about existance being meaningless and I will magnify them

In my Existentialist Club in high school, I was voted the person most likely to be. But now I'm not so sure that's true....

(Yes, I blatantly stole that joke from Frasier.)

Originally posted by Moondance
I shall be the club's PR Agent!

You get to spam other boards and tell them how f*cking cool Lilith is. You're like our Ambassador.

Originally posted by Chambers
You get to spam other boards and tell them how f*cking cool Lilith is. You're like our Ambassador.


Yeah, I am! It would be an honor to SPAM Lilith all over other boards!;)


Feen

I edited my first post to include everyone's roles, in addition to the ground rules, and "The Epic That Is, Lilith"

Excellent job on the first post.

so now that we have taken care of club business what should we do?

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
so now that we have taken care of club business what should we do?

God, you're so demanding!
Always with the "doing things."

Originally posted by Chambers
You get to spam other boards and tell them how f*cking cool Lilith is. You're like our Ambassador.

That's a good idea, I distinctly remember the Happy Days gang spamming this board about a year ago. Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Originally posted by Brian Damage
Revenge is a dish best served cold.

Especially in a Lilith club.

so...now lets discuss what parts of Lilith's childhood we think led to her behavioral patterns.

someone else start said discussion :P

Oh, I don't have a job. Can I just be a groupie? Or how about the caterer (sp?). I make excellent Ramen Noodles, ooh and hot dogs and macaroni and cheese. ;)

Frasier'sHairyMan, I think you have an obsession with food.
ThirteenInchEscape, it's time to deal with your Oedipal complex.
My suggestion to both of you is to develop another behavioral problem in hope that it will eclipse your current disorder. Develop a facial tic or something along those lines. Repress, repress, repress.

-The Club Psychiatrist: doling out worthless little advice pellets from my psychiatric pez dispenser - because I care.


Onto Lilith.
Lilith is the classic case of the adult who becomes conservative in order to supress guilty memories of having been a wild teenager. Or something like that.

Chambers, do you think if I became Obsessive Compulsive and started washing my hands 50 times a day, it would successfully combat my unhealthy obsession with food?

Originally posted by Frasier'sHairyMan
Chambers, do you think if I became Obsessive Compulsive and started washing my hands 50 times a day, it would successfully combat my unhealthy obsession with food?

Absolutely. And if that doesn't work, I'll give you some drugs.

Oooh!! Wonder Drugs to make me feel Wonderful!!!!!

Did Frasier ever pick on Lilith for having a bad French accent when they had fights? He picked on Diane's accent (even though hers is good).

Originally posted by Chambers
Did Frasier ever pick on Lilith for having a bad French accent when they had fights? He picked on Diane's accent (even though hers is good).

Maybe on Frasier, but he was so whipped he would've never mocked her on Cheers.

"Whipped, and proud of it!"

Originally posted by Chambers
ThirteenInchEscape, it's time to deal with your Oedipal complex.


Since when does I have an Oedipus Complex?



just because I thought the play was the funniest thing of all time, doesnt mean there is correlation, I most certainly dont have an abnormally close relationship with my mother.

ThirteenInchEscape, don't mind Chambers, she's just enjoying her new Pez Dispenser.

Barwars, Chambers, (and anyone else who cares), check it out!

http://multimedia.wisdomdigital.com/bww/fiddler/62100005.jpg

http://z100.com/timages/photo/WHTZ-FM_21769_246.jpg

just thought I'd share the love.

Shalom and all.

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
Since when does I have an Oedipus Complex?



just because I thought the play was the funniest thing of all time, doesnt mean there is correlation, I most certainly dont have an abnormally close relationship with my mother.

Unruly patients go to solitary confinement - 24 hours in a cell watching...dun dun dun...7th Heaven.

So you better start picturing your mother as Lilith so I can do my job.

Lilith - I mean Bebe just gets better and better.

Originally posted by periacta
ThirteenInchEscape, don't mind Chambers, she's just enjoying her new Pez Dispenser.

Barwars, Chambers, (and anyone else who cares), check it out!

PICTURES, JUST LOOK ABOVE

just thought I'd share the love.

Shalom and all.

Ohh.
Good looking, and good look on politics.

Originally posted by barwars
Ohh.
Good looking, and good look on politics.

I don't think that's a surprise to anyone.

But it makes me happy.

Originally posted by periacta
I don't think that's a surprise to anyone.

But it makes me happy.

haha.

So....
what now?

Isn't the president supposed to tell us to do things? Or has she taken her vacation a week after elections?

Originally posted by Chambers
Isn't the president supposed to tell us to do things? Or has she taken her vacation a week after elections?

How dare you make such a comparison, Chambers (sounds like you've seen Farenheit 9/11)!
No, the president has to go and take care of her neighbor's yorkies, Tippy and Twinkie (I kid you not) and then she's going to see a movie with her boyfriend.
Which is a much more legitimate reason to, um, not be here.

I shall now pawn off the responsibility for topic-choosing tonight to Cheney...I mean...Chambers.

I'll be back in a few hours when all you guys are probably sleeping. Ya kooks.

Originally posted by periacta
How dare you make such a comparison, Chambers (sounds like you've seen Farenheit 9/11)!
No, the president has to go and take care of her neighbor's yorkies, Tippy and Twinkie (I kid you not) and then she's going to see a movie with her boyfriend.
Which is a much more legitimate reason to, um, not be here.

I shall now pawn off the responsibility for topic-choosing tonight to Cheney...I mean...Chambers.


:mad:Chamey is not amused.

Oh, and that film hasn't come out here yet :mad:.

Originally posted by Chambers
:mad:Chamey is not amused.


I think we just found you a new nickname.

Originally posted by periacta
I think we just found you a new nickname.

Aw crap...

Then you're Pootie-Poot (the nickname your alter ego came up with for Putin)

Lilith is absolutely nothing like my mother Chamey.

And when the older order is destroyed your cyber-PHD wont mean a god damn thing

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
Lilith is absolutely nothing like my mother Chamey.

And when the older order is destroyed your cyber-PHD wont mean a god damn thing

:eek: That's it. 24-hour 7th Heaven marathon for you.

Chamey...your avatar...it's so...
creepy.
Almost as creepy as you telling ThirteenInchEscape to think of his mother as Lilith.
I mean, there's Freudian, and then there's "ew."

Oh yeah, and:

Originally posted by Chambers
Aw crap...

Then you're Pootie-Poot (the nickname your alter ego came up with for Putin)

Eh, I'm part Russian anyway.
Can't you call me Vladimir?
or Vlady?

Some of my family is German, lol!

Originally posted by periacta
Chamey...your avatar...it's so...
creepy.
Almost as creepy as you telling ThirteenInchEscape to think of his mother as Lilith.
I mean, there's Freudian, and then there's "ew."

Vlady, I'm one of those creepy Freudians.
Don't worry, though, I think my power trip is over.

Chambers, Lilith looks so f*cking cool behind the colored glass!!!!



Feen

Originally posted by Moondance
Chambers, Lilith looks so f*cking cool behind the colored glass!!!!



Feen

Thank you :)

Chambers, nice avatar and all.... but its no "Frasier on Beacon St."

Originally posted by barwars
Chambers, nice avatar and all.... but its no "Frasier on Beacon St."

God barwars, you have such high expectations!

Originally posted by periacta
God barwars, you have such high expectations!

Well it works, Im stealing it!

Originally posted by barwars
Well it works, Im stealing it!

Wait, what are you stealing?

Originally posted by periacta
Wait, what are you stealing?

Frasier on Beacon St. (the superior avatar, although I like this one a lot too)

Originally posted by barwars
Frasier on Beacon St. (the superior avatar, although I like this one a lot too)

No, NO! Cause...then there would be no Lilith in your avatar, and I'd be saaaad.

*pouts*

Haha go ahead and steal it.

Originally posted by periacta
No, NO! Cause...then there would be no Lilith in your avatar, and I'd be saaaad.

*pouts*

Ok, I wont.
If I did.... would it be considered plagirizing?? (please, at any time -- correct my spelling)

Originally posted by Chambers
Haha go ahead and steal it.

I wont, but it is tempting.
Could you post the smaller version, in case I do decide to steal it someday??

I trust you won't make any money off it.

Oh, and I say "AYE."

Originally posted by Chambers
.

Oh, and I say "AYE."

...
Hey!
What did I ever do to you?!



...you guys don't like me?

Originally posted by periacta
...
Hey!
What did I ever do to you?!



...you guys don't like me?

bite me.

.... I had to.

Originally posted by periacta
...
Hey!
What did I ever do to you?!



...you guys don't like me?

Chamey is just hungry for some oil money.

Originally posted by barwars
bite me.

Hahaha.


*sniff* I feel so betrayed!

Originally posted by Chambers
Chamey is just hungry for some oil money.

I've got some olive oil in the kitchen.
Mix it with some (read: lots of) balsamic vinegar and some oregano, and it makes a decent salad dressing.
Will that work?

Originally posted by Chambers
Chamey is just hungry for some oil money.

Or the heart attacks are coming faster than usual, and you want your time before its up.

Originally posted by periacta
I've got some olive oil in the kitchen.
Mix it with some (read: lots of) balsamic vinegar and some oregano, and it makes a decent salad dressing.
Will that work?

I feel another heart attack coming....

Originally posted by barwars
Or the heart attacks are coming faster than usual, and you want your time before its up.

Ok, speaking of high executive power health mishaps, and oddly enough, bringing the topic back to Lilith (go figure), I was watching "The Bar Manager, The Shrink, His Wife, and Her Lover" the other day, and when Lilith's crying, and Carla says "It sounds like she has a pretzel stuck in her throat." And I was like...oh my god! Like Bush!

Well, I thought it was crazy, but I have a pretty boring life.

Originally posted by periacta
Ok, speaking of high executive power health mishaps, and oddly enough, bringing the topic back to Lilith (go figure), I was watching "The Bar Manager, The Shrink, His Wife, and Her Lover" the other day, and when Lilith's crying, and Carla says "It sounds like she has a pretzel stuck in her throat." And I was like...oh my god! Like Bush!

Well, I thought it was crazy, but I have a pretty boring life.

hahahahaha
I noticed that too (although I first saw the episode around the time of Bush's incident)

Originally posted by periacta
And I was like...oh my god!

Oh sh*t. I'm turning into a Valley Girl.

Hahaha that's great.


...Would Lilith be a Democrat or Republican?

Originally posted by periacta
Oh sh*t. I'm turning into a Valley Girl.

Like, really?





Independant.

Originally posted by Chambers
Hahaha that's great.


...Would Lilith be a Democrat or Republican?

Oh come on, she'd so be a democrat. She's waaay too much of a feminist to be a republican.

Originally posted by periacta
Oh come on, she'd so be a democrat. She's waaay too much of a feminist to be a republican.

True, although she does dress very conservative (but makes it work)

Republican wardrobe.... Democratic mind.

Originally posted by periacta
Oh come on, she'd so be a democrat. She's waaay too much of a feminist to be a republican.

And Frasier?

Just because she dresses conservatively doesn't mean she is conservative.
For instance, not everyone who follows the instructions on the lotion bottle that say "Apply liberally to skin." Is liberal.

Originally posted by Chambers
And Frasier?

Is a republican, along with Niles. (see the Season 2 episode "The Candidate")

btw, barwars, you should update the link for your fanfic in your signature.

Originally posted by Chambers
And Frasier?

I'd probably say a centrist.

Originally posted by periacta
Just because she dresses conservatively doesn't mean she is conservative.
For instance, not everyone who follows the instructions on the lotion bottle that say "Apply liberally to skin." Is liberal.

hahahahaha
thats why I said "Republican wardrobe.... Democratic mind."

Originally posted by Chambers
btw, barwars, you should update the link for your fanfic in your signature.

thanks for the headsup.

Originally posted by barwars
Is a republican, along with Niles. (see the Season 2 episode "The Candidate")

Should've guessed. They have republican written all over their Armani suits.

Originally posted by barwars
Is a republican, along with Niles. (see the Season 2 episode "The Candidate")

Oh...well...go figure.

Originally posted by barwars

hahahahaha
thats why I said "Republican wardrobe.... Democratic mind."

I didn't see that part...

Yes this is my daily "yes I am an idiot" post.

Originally posted by periacta

Yes this is my daily "yes I am an idiot" post.

That's hourly.

I josh. I josh.

That's actually my case.

Well, we seem to be the thread hi-jackers of the day.
Are we allowed to even say the word "hijack" anymore?

Originally posted by periacta
Well, we seem to be the thread hi-jackers of the day.
Are we allowed to even say the word "hijack" anymore?

Talk about a terrorist.

Originally posted by periacta
Well, we seem to be the thread hi-jackers of the day.
Are we allowed to even say the word "hijack" anymore?

Only if you're talking to a "Jack."

Feel free to :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Chambers
Only if you're talking to a "Jack."

OT.... but Im sure you have heard the song "Life Goes On" by wellIdontknow.... but the guy sings about Jack and Diane, and everytime I hear it all I can think is he wanted so bad for it to be "Sam and Diane"

Originally posted by barwars
OT.... but Im sure you have heard the song "Life Goes On" by wellIdontknow.... but the guy sings about Jack and Diane, and everytime I hear it all I can think is he wanted so bad for it to be "Sam and Diane"

hahaha

Originally posted by barwars
Talk about a terrorist.

I can't be a terrorist, I'm the god-fearin' president.

Chambers, I shall look for an approriate smiley for your joke, give me a moment...

:schmack:

eh, close enough.

Originally posted by periacta
I can't be a terrorist, I'm the god-fearin' president.

damn.

Speaking of...

Barwars, how are our borders? Those people from the "Blossom" board are looking pretty suspicious.
But that may just be because they like "Blossom," one can never be sure.

Last post on the Blossom board.

i think mattsss a cutieee.. i used to like that show brotherly love .. i know its off topic but

It speaks for itself. They're definitely hiding WLDs.

Originally posted by periacta
Speaking of...

Barwars, how are our borders? Those people from the "Blossom" board are looking pretty suspicious.
But that may just be because they like "Blossom," one can never be sure.

Woah, woah, woah.
(sorry, cheap Lawrence-brother impression I stole from SNL)

Blossom ha!
You make me laugh.... its the rednecks from the The Jeff Foxworthy Show boards that we have to worry about.

"You might be a redneck if...."
SHUT UP, you're not funny!

Originally posted by Chambers
Last post on the Blossom board.



It speaks for itself. They're definitely hiding WLDs.

Brotherly Love is by far the worst show of all time, next to The Jeff Foxworthy Show and Blue Collar TV that is.

Well, Im off.
Ive got work at 7. :mad:

But, only 6 more days including tomorrow!!

Yes, thats right.... I cant wait until unemployment!!

Originally posted by barwars
Well, Im off.
Ive got work at 7. :mad:

But, only 6 more days including tomorrow!!

Yes, thats right.... I cant wait until unemployment!!

haha :wave:

I have to go too.

This is getting insane, I really ought to check back every hour.

No school on Fridays...woot :D

the other day I wanted to stay up to see the final episode of Season 3 and the first episode of Season 4, and I wanted to see the last episode with coach you know, and the first episode with woody.

yeah, fell asleep

damn school, and sleep patterns, and all your nonsense

September 10th, haha.

Chambers.... its the most beautiful thing Ive ever seen.
10 times better than anything I couldve ever imagined.... the perfect avatar.


PLEASE tell me there's a larger version.... because I think we may have to change the fanfic pic again.

haha thanks.

AND Diane left outside, Its perfect!

It doesn't look so convincing this big, because you can see all the parts where I tried to cover up the original picture. In any case, I'm hoping that one day we won't just have a Cheers reunion - we'll have a Cheers/Frasier reunion.

Originally posted by Chambers
It doesn't look so convincing this big, because you can see all the parts where I tried to cover up the original picture. In any case, I'm hoping that one day we won't just have a Cheers reunion - we'll have a Cheers/Frasier reunion.


Ahh yes, I think they could make it work, without seeming too forced, but the only trouble would be Roz.
Because -- Frasier could visit Cheers with Niles, Daphne and Martin.... but bringing Roz along wouldn't make much sense. (Unless they figure out a way to have her be dating Sam or something)

But what makes the pic even better is your Location.

"Where Everybody Knows A Crane"

haha.... I bet the Frasier writers are kicking themselves for never using that.

Hehe thanks.

I think you solved the reunion problem - Roz and Sam would be perfect for each other. At least until the following morning.

Originally posted by Chambers
Hehe thanks.

I think you solved the reunion problem - Roz and Sam would be perfect for each other. At least until the following morning.

haha
The first scene of The Show Where Sam Shows Up is the highlight of it.
If not Diane -- Sam should end up with Roz.

Roz: [to Frasier] So this is the Sam Malone you've always talked
about? The one who has no respect for women and treats them like dirt? [to Sam] Need anyone to show you around Seattle?
Sam: Well, you know, to tell you the truth I'm all right with the
city, but I get real lost in my hotel room.

Sam and Roz are soulmates.
Perhaps Diane could be content with personal fulfillment....um, yeah.

Originally posted by Chambers
Roz: [to Frasier] So this is the Sam Malone you've always talked
about? The one who has no respect for women and treats them like dirt? [to Sam] Need anyone to show you around Seattle?
Sam: Well, you know, to tell you the truth I'm all right with the
city, but I get real lost in my hotel room.

Sam and Roz are soulmates.
Perhaps Diane could be content with personal fulfillment....um, yeah.

hahaha
I always thought Diane and Niles could work together.
In fact, there's a post somewhere around here about that.

Originally posted by barwars
hahaha
I always thought Diane and Niles could work together.
In fact, there's a post somewhere around here about that.

I think we mentioned that in the survivor game too. They would be hilarious together...or boring as hell. I'm going with the first option.

Originally posted by Chambers
I think we mentioned that in the survivor game too. They would be hilarious together...or boring as hell. I'm going with the first option.

They would be very boring to the people around them.... but from the comfort of our TVs.... hilarious.

Originally posted by barwars
They would be very boring to the people around them.... but from the comfort of our TVs.... hilarious.

Haha true. That's the show's genius - they make boring fun.

Chambers, Chambers, Chambers....

could you possibly make me an avatar??


Could you put Frasier and Martin in Cheers, if it wouldnt be too much of a problem?? (and maybe somehow, if possibly.... fit Norm in their too, and seeing that this is the GLISFC-Club.... Lilith too, but, whatever)

If you can or cant, thanks in advance!
http://home.arcor.de/page3/cast37.jpg

Sure, I'll try. That's a great picture - damn, now you're going to have the best avatar ever.

Originally posted by Chambers
Sure, I'll try. That's a great picture - damn, now you're going to have the best avatar ever.

"Courtesy of Chambers"

It's almost done...I'll post it soon.

There. Everything you asked for...I think.

Pretend not to notice the younger Frasier talking to Sam at the bar.

Bigger version - if you want to resize it again.

thank you VERY much!!

Is that Frasier in their twice??
(the more the merrier)

Originally posted by barwars
thank you VERY much!!

Is that Frasier in their twice??
(the more the merrier)

Different Crane. That's Franklin Crane from Maine.

Originally posted by Chambers
Different Crane. That's Franklin Crane from Maine.

Poser.

It says its too big. (not phsyically, its too many bytes)
Am I doing something wrong??

LMAO, I'll pretend not to notice it :P


BTW, I really dont think Diane is boring, I think my opinion of boring may be far different than anyone elses...

I got it to work!

Originally posted by barwars
Poser.

It says its too big.
Am I doing something wrong??

it should work now. it was a little over 25,000bytes or whatever that thing's supposed to be.

thanks again.
I figured it out

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
LMAO, I'll pretend not to notice it :P


BTW, I really dont think Diane is boring, I think my opinion of boring may be far different than anyone elses...

No, she isn't boring. But in real life I don't think she would be very funny. She'd be annoying.

Originally posted by barwars
thanks again.
I figured it out

oh good.

Originally posted by Chambers
No, she isn't boring. But in real life I don't think she would be very funny. She'd be annoying.

I agree.
My favorite characters on TV and movies would annoy me to death in real life.
But from an outside perspective -- they're perfect.
But -- I would much rather spend a day with Diane or Niles than with some of the rednecks I work with.
God I cant wait till Friday.

Originally posted by barwars
I agree.
My favorite characters on TV and movies would annoy me to death in real life.
But from an outside perspective -- they're perfect.
But -- I would much rather spend a day with Diane or Niles than with some of the rednecks I work with.
God I cant wait till Friday.

Poor you.
At least you can have a decent conversation with a Diane or a Niles.

Originally posted by Chambers
Poor you.
At least you can have a decent conversation with a Diane or a Niles.

True. Even though Diane and Niles are fictional -- they're more real than rednecks will ever be. (if that makes any sense)

I dunno, I wouldnt mind hanging out with someone who was obsessed with trying to be an intellectual and part of "high culture", as much as I love TV and popular culture, It would be great to have someone to discuss things of intelligence with.

Then again, I dont think I would find Diane's intelligence "intimidating" or really annoying in any way, I think people who always get (and follow through with) stupid ideas can be very funny. In fact, I often encourage them, but that may be becuase I have a sick streak and enjoy watching them fail

In real life, I hate stuffed-shirts. They're pretentious and condescending. If you don't know as much as they do, they'll eat you alive.

Also, I don't think you can really make judgements about the characters' intelligence (except in the case of Coach and Woody...and perhaps Sam). The show only exposes their different levels of education and social status. I seriously cannot see how people can determine whether Diane is less or more intelligent than Frasier, Niles, Lilith or even Carla. The writers seem to explore education - not brute intelligence. The difference between Diane and the other stuffed-shirts is that she doesn't do anything concrete and worthwhile with her education (that's the real reason why she's a pseudo-intellectual). Also, nobody thinks of Norm as being intelligent - but he is. He's good at his job despite his lack of ambition. But just because he isn't refined and doesn't have an expensive education, people don't even include him in that category.

well I'm told my older brother and my step-sister's boyfriend both make people feel stupid, but I have never had a problem with it with either of them before. But that may be because I am able to admit when I dont know something, and then be curious to learn more about it, so I am never really able to be intimidated by anyones intelligence (or education)


Oh, and I think it is obvious that Cliff was a complete idiot


and I dont think sam was that stupid Sam, I think he mainly just had different interests.

Haha Cliff was an idiot, but he was not dumb. There's a difference. And I actually agree about Sam.

On that other point - I'm not really talking about intimidation. It's great to learn from people who know more, but a lot of people don't want to waste their time talking to you if they think you're not their intellectual equal. So being humble won't get you anywhere in that case. They're just going to make fun of you and walk away.

i suppose I've never met anyone like that.

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
i suppose I've never met anyone like that.

Haha lucky for you.

I can't tolerate people who think they are better than others, but on the other hand.... I can't stand some people myself(rednecks, people with bad hygiene, Canadians)
Because well, I am better.

Originally posted by barwars
I can't tolerate people who think they are better than others, but on the other hand.... I can't stand some people myself(rednecks, people with bad hygiene, Canadians)
Because well, I am better.

Well, there has to be a limit.

Originally posted by Chambers
Well, there has to be a limit.

hehe

you cant possibly contend that you hate all Canadians

Originally posted by ThirteenInchEscape
you cant possibly contend that you hate all Canadians

I couldnt possibly have been sarcastic.

Originally posted by barwars
I can't tolerate people who think they are better than others, but on the other hand.... I can't stand some people myself(rednecks, people with bad hygiene, Canadians)
Because well, I am better.

You HATE Canadians? What did they ever do to you? LOL


Feen

Originally posted by Moondance
You HATE Canadians? What did they ever do to you? LOL


Feen

Canada is a nuclear threat. Everybody in that country is a suspect. Watch Canadian Bacon.

Originally posted by Chambers
Canada is a nuclear threat. Everybody in that country is a suspect. Watch Canadian Bacon.


OK, I'll do that! Tonight I'm going to watch Office Space - I've never seen that, lol!


Feen



P.S. God, Lilith is so f*cking cool!!!!

Originally posted by Moondance
OK, I'll do that! Tonight I'm going to watch Office Space - I've never seen that, lol!

Ooh good. Best movie ever.

Originally posted by Chambers
Canada is a nuclear threat. Everybody in that country is a suspect. Watch Canadian Bacon.

I bought that a few weeks ago, a little while after we were talking about it. God I love that movie. John Candy is a brilliant actor and the director, ******* *****, is even better.

Originally posted by barwars
I bought that a few weeks ago, a little while after we were talking about it. God I love that movie. John Candy is a brilliant actor and the director, ******* *****, is even better.


I love John Candy movies!:)

Originally posted by Moondance
I love John Candy movies!:)

Uncle Buck is one of my favorites, directed by the genius that is **** ******.







Ohh wait, we CAN say "John Hughes"
Nevermind the stars.