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Fred G Cleaver · 03-14-2003, 10:41 AM

which was the funniest charater

I would say Fred by far is one of the reasons why i like S&S alot better than All in the family Archie was dumb Fred was pretty smart when it came down to it Sandford and Son was by Far Norman Lear's best TV Show Archie call Edith a dingbat when he is just as dumb as she is and Archie's fights with Mike where nowhere near as funny as Fred's Fights Where with Esther
So in Closing im going to say in a funny man contest the Winner and still champion
Fred G Sanford

Tuesday Weld · 03-14-2003, 02:15 PM

I would say Fred is better.

Fred G Cleaver · 03-14-2003, 02:18 PM

another reason why i didnt like All in the family it was to poltical which Sanford and Son barely was if at all

*InThisMoment* · 03-14-2003, 02:35 PM

well i never watch all in the family. but i really like sanford and son so thats my pick.

Fred G Cleaver · 03-14-2003, 03:51 PM

well all in the family also had to much filth which Redd Foxx might have been the filthiest man than caroll oconnor but Fred was nowhere near as filthy as Archie

Chad22 · 03-14-2003, 05:37 PM

Their tied for me. As is George Jefferson with the two of them.

DarleneIllyria · 03-14-2003, 10:17 PM

Man, that's a tough choice. I like them both, so I say it's tied.

Flash72 · 03-14-2003, 11:13 PM

I agree with Jenny in that I like them both. They were equally funny but in their own way. Archie- for the dumb things that came out of his mouth and the malaprops, Fred- the insults and classic fights with Esther and just about anyone else. Plus both men pronounced toilet in a funny manner: Archie-Terlert, Fred-Towlet

Fred G Cleaver · 03-17-2003, 04:21 PM

Flash were did you get that picture of Fred standing beside that grave looking like a minister

.:BF:. · 03-18-2003, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by Fred G Cleaver
Flash were did you get that picture of Fred standing beside that grave looking like a minister

yeah, Where did you get that picture?

Scoobiedoo30 · 03-18-2003, 02:36 PM

I would also have to say it is a tie I like them both.

Take Care and God Bless
Aaron

RCA · 03-18-2003, 03:56 PM

Funniest in my opinion is Fred. Archie sometimes annoys me with his facial expressions. I dont dislike Archie, just think Fred is funnier.

Flash72 · 03-19-2003, 01:35 AM

Redd posed for me back in 1977. j/k Actually, I got it out of an old book on classic television series. Thanks for inquiring.

*PinkLady* · 03-19-2003, 04:59 PM

Fred, by far. The few times I watched AITF, Archie got on my nerves.

Artfiore1 · 03-23-2003, 01:45 PM

Hi all,
I think "All In The Family" and "Sanford & Son" had very different audiences. But, some people -- like myself, for instance -- like both. I have loved "Sanford & Son" for years, and still enjoy the reruns almost every night on TVLand, and occasionally on other channels, as well. It was a great show. With all due respect, though, "All In The Family" is legendary, and in a completely different league! Likewise. Fred was funny, but Archie was a one-of-a-kind original character with much more depth.

Fred could give you 900 jokes, and about 850 of them would be variations of the same theme -- what name he had come up with by combining the names of two different items he'd mixed together . . . what the G. stands for, depending on the situation he was in at the time. Meanwhile, Archie would be more likely to give you 900 *different* jokes.

For 6 years, Fred had a son he thought was a dummy, and a sister-in-law he thought was ugly. Whereas, throughout the run of "All In The Family and "Archie Bunker's Place," Archie was surrounded by, and couldn't get away from, all sorts of people he couldn't stand or understand -- a Polish son-in-law, black neighbors, a transvestite friend, a Puerto Rican boarder, a Jewish business partner, a Catholic cook, a gay waiter, etc. Ultimately, he softened and came to accept all of them, right up to the Jewish niece (by marriage) and the black housekeeper he had in the end. These things were all fuel for a much more complex, diverse and (I think) funnier character.

Later,
Art

P.S. Oh , by the way, I DO like them both, too.

03-14-2003, 10:41 AM	#1
Fred G Cleaver Have You Forgotten Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 13, 2003 Location: With Esther Anderson Posts: 208	Fred vs Archie which was the funniest charater I would say Fred by far is one of the reasons why i like S&S alot better than All in the family Archie was dumb Fred was pretty smart when it came down to it Sandford and Son was by Far Norman Lear's best TV Show Archie call Edith a dingbat when he is just as dumb as she is and Archie's fights with Mike where nowhere near as funny as Fred's Fights Where with Esther So in Closing im going to say in a funny man contest the Winner and still champion Fred G Sanford

03-14-2003, 02:15 PM	#2
Tuesday Weld I missed you all. hugs Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 02, 2003 Location: Having a great time. Posts: 22,285	I would say Fred is better.
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03-14-2003, 02:35 PM	#4
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03-14-2003, 11:13 PM	#8
Flash72 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 17, 2000 Location: Alabama Posts: 310	I agree with Jenny in that I like them both. They were equally funny but in their own way. Archie- for the dumb things that came out of his mouth and the malaprops, Fred- the insults and classic fights with Esther and just about anyone else. Plus both men pronounced toilet in a funny manner: Archie-Terlert, Fred-Towlet
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03-18-2003, 02:36 PM	#11
Scoobiedoo30 Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Jun 27, 2002 Location: KENNER, LOUISIANA Posts: 27,654	Re Fred vs Archie I would also have to say it is a tie I like them both. Take Care and God Bless Aaron
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03-14-2003, 02:18 PM	#3
Fred G Cleaver Have You Forgotten Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 13, 2003 Location: With Esther Anderson Posts: 208	another reason why i didnt like All in the family it was to poltical which Sanford and Son barely was if at all

03-14-2003, 03:51 PM	#5
Fred G Cleaver Have You Forgotten Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 13, 2003 Location: With Esther Anderson Posts: 208	well all in the family also had to much filth which Redd Foxx might have been the filthiest man than caroll oconnor but Fred was nowhere near as filthy as Archie

03-14-2003, 05:37 PM	#6
Chad22 Captain Juke N Jive Moderator Forum Addict Join Date: Nov 23, 2002 Location: Caribou, Maine Posts: 71,661	Their tied for me. As is George Jefferson with the two of them.

03-14-2003, 10:17 PM	#7
DarleneIllyria Gone Forum Star Join Date: Oct 15, 2000 Posts: 19,086	Man, that's a tough choice. I like them both, so I say it's tied.

03-17-2003, 04:21 PM	#9
Fred G Cleaver Have You Forgotten Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 13, 2003 Location: With Esther Anderson Posts: 208	Flash were did you get that picture of Fred standing beside that grave looking like a minister

03-18-2003, 03:56 PM	#12
RCA Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 25, 2003 Posts: 76	Funniest in my opinion is Fred. Archie sometimes annoys me with his facial expressions. I dont dislike Archie, just think Fred is funnier.

03-19-2003, 01:35 AM	#13
Flash72 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 17, 2000 Location: Alabama Posts: 310	Redd posed for me back in 1977. j/k Actually, I got it out of an old book on classic television series. Thanks for inquiring.

03-19-2003, 04:59 PM	#14
PinkLady Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 04, 2002 Posts: 7,457	Fred, by far. The few times I watched AITF, Archie got on my nerves.

03-23-2003, 01:45 PM	#15
Artfiore1 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 28, 2001 Location: East Brunswick, NJ, USA Posts: 457	Hi all, I think "All In The Family" and "Sanford & Son" had very different audiences. But, some people -- like myself, for instance -- like both. I have loved "Sanford & Son" for years, and still enjoy the reruns almost every night on TVLand, and occasionally on other channels, as well. It was a great show. With all due respect, though, "All In The Family" is legendary, and in a completely different league! Likewise. Fred was funny, but Archie was a one-of-a-kind original character with much more depth. Fred could give you 900 jokes, and about 850 of them would be variations of the same theme -- what name he had come up with by combining the names of two different items he'd mixed together . . . what the G. stands for, depending on the situation he was in at the time. Meanwhile, Archie would be more likely to give you 900 different jokes. For 6 years, Fred had a son he thought was a dummy, and a sister-in-law he thought was ugly. Whereas, throughout the run of "All In The Family and "Archie Bunker's Place," Archie was surrounded by, and couldn't get away from, all sorts of people he couldn't stand or understand -- a Polish son-in-law, black neighbors, a transvestite friend, a Puerto Rican boarder, a Jewish business partner, a Catholic cook, a gay waiter, etc. Ultimately, he softened and came to accept all of them, right up to the Jewish niece (by marriage) and the black housekeeper he had in the end. These things were all fuel for a much more complex, diverse and (I think) funnier character. Later, Art P.S. Oh , by the way, I DO like them both, too.
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