Was Jo in hindsight, often quite judgemental

[TMC]

Didn't it seem like that many at the time, gave her a pass due to her "tough girl from the Bronx" background, even though she really should have been called out on her myopic point of views as much as Blair was?

[80s Dude]

Correct. She certainly was judgemental when Cliff became a male stripper and Cliff wasn't Jo's boyfriend.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by TMC

Didn't it seem like that many at the time, gave her a pass due to her "tough girl from the Bronx" background, even though she really should have been called out on her myopic point of views as much as Blair was?

My god, yes. Jo often went overboard. How many times did she say, "Look, where I'm from..." followed by a narrow-minded point of view on the subject of the day. That narrow-mindedness got her into a lot of trouble. For example, when she decided that her teacher, Gail, just decided to go to another school. She didn't give Gail a chance to explain, and likely missed out on weeks where they could have talked before Gail had to leave. Not only did Jo hurt Gail with that narrow-mindedness, she hurt herself.

[Christopher]

Season 2 Jo started out really well. She wasn't a bully or obnoxious. She was just a girl with an attitude that was likable. Season 3 - 5 Jo is the worst. I don't know why they changed her so much at the beginning of season 3. She went from the tough girl to a bulldog. The writers really wanted her butch. Look at Fear Strikes Back when she's in the self defense class. They didn't want viewers seeing a girl in Jo anymore; they wanted you to see her as a man. The level of arrogance the writers added to her at times turned you off of liking her. Season 5 in the episode All or Nothing was her worst moment ever. She staged a fight in Mrs. Garrett's shop to prove a point to the school board she is right and they were wrong over the scoreboard. If customers had been there and got hurt, they would have sued and put Mrs. Garrett out of business. Jo didn't care. I like when season 6 started they tamed her down. She started acting like the season 2 Jo where she has an attitude but she cares what goes on around her. She grew up a lot in season 6 and continued developing through season 8. Season 9, Jo was a completely different character. I think a lot of that is on Nancy because she didn't care about the show the last year. She had stopped rejecting stories for Jo and just went with the flow until she could say sayonara to everyone.

[Lorimar Television]

Yep Jo was a judgmental pain

[Wawwie]

Originally Posted by TMC

Didn't it seem like that many at the time, gave her a pass due to her "tough girl from the Bronx" background, even though she really should have been called out on her myopic point of views as much as Blair was?

I wanted to smack Jo in the episode "Just My Bill." She was very judgmental in that one. The way she treated that guy and his wealthy parents was despicable.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by Wawwie

I wanted to smack Jo in the episode "Just My Bill." She was very judgmental in that one. The way she treated that guy and his wealthy parents was despicable.

"Just My Bill" and "The Rich Aren't Different". Come on, Jo! Don't treat people poorly just because they have money!

[80s Dude]

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

"Just My Bill" and "The Rich Aren't Different". Come on, Jo! Don't treat people poorly just because they have money!

That is one of many things that turned me off about Jo.

My father worked as maintenance for a boys prep school. While he had a comfortable earmings because of a union and over time, he wasn't rich. That didn't stop me from playing basketball with some of the students at the school and getting invited events that had food that my family would never eat allowed me to learn about other cultures. I grew up most closely like Sue Ann on the show. My father was a farmer until he got tired of being tied down all the time.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by 80s Dude

That is one of many things that turned me off about Jo.

My father worked as maintenance for a boys prep school. While he had a comfortable earmings because of a union and over time, he wasn't rich. That didn't stop me from playing basketball with some of the students at the school and getting invited events that had food that my family would never eat allowed me to learn about other cultures. I grew up most closely like Sue Ann on the show. My father was a farmer until he got tired of being tied down all the time.

Wow! '80sSitcoms' father was also a farmer.

My father was not a farmer, but we were definitely farm-adjacent during most of my growing-up years (we did live for one year in the Los Angeles area: I lived for part of second grade in Garden Grove, and part of third grade in two places in Anaheim). We usually lived in very rural areas, so the change to LA was a very big culture shock. I grew up being raised very similar to Sue Ann's family's belief system. We certainly would have judged Blair's mother for staying out all night (strange that Justin Branch gets a pass, but those were very different times).

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

"The Rich Aren't Different". Come on, Jo! Don't treat people poorly just because they have money!

How about how Blair treats people when she damages someone's personal item? In The Way We Were, Blair broke Jo's carburetor and never apologized. Blair treated Jo like a charity case handing her a blank check and acting like all was fine. There are two sides to this story but you guys always seem to leave out how Blair acts towards others when mentioning this episode. I can see why Jo behaved the way she did to Blair in that episode, but at least Jo apologized to Blair. That's something Blair, a rich person, never does when she breaks something of other's. She hands out money and expects that to fix everything. I don't think this particular Jo was out of line with how she responded to Blair in this episode. I don't think season 6 Jo would have treated other rich people the way she treated Blair. The way Jo responded was based on previous actions between the two.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by Christopher

How about how Blair treats people when she damages someone's personal item? In The Way We Were, Blair broke Jo's carburetor and never apologized. Blair treated Jo like a charity case handing her a blank check and acting like all was fine.

Blair acted thoughtlessly, but we expect Blair to act thoughtlessly. We expect more of Jo. When she treats others poorly due to their class, we realize how she's just treating others poorly due to their social status.

[valentina warner]

Originally Posted by Christopher

How about how Blair treats people when she damages someone's personal item? In The Way We Were, Blair broke Jo's carburetor and never apologized. Blair treated Jo like a charity case handing her a blank check and acting like all was fine. There are two sides to this story but you guys always seem to leave out how Blair acts towards others when mentioning this episode. I can see why Jo behaved the way she did to Blair in that episode, but at least Jo apologized to Blair. That's something Blair, a rich person, never does when she breaks something of other's. She hands out money and expects that to fix everything. I don't think this particular Jo was out of line with how she responded to Blair in this episode. I don't think season 6 Jo would have treated other rich people the way she treated Blair. The way Jo responded was based on previous actions between the two.

I agree, those 2 had such dynamics/chemistry and opposites attracts at the same time: it's like JO was trying hard to get BLAIR to see her her point of view on how she should stop being flippant and materialistic! (in a way, she wanted so badly to show her the real world outside her bubble world)...
They really were soul sisters lol!

[A.C.]

Not in hindsight from me. I KNEW the minute she showed up wither her bike and chip on her shoulder the size of Manhattan. The show would never be the same or as good once Jo entered the picture.

[valentina warner]

Originally Posted by A.C.

Not in hindsight from me. I KNEW the minute she showed up wither her bike and chip on her shoulder the size of Manhattan. The show would never be the same or as good once Jo entered the picture.

The show was already good with BLAIR and SUE ANN on it lol!

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

Blair acted thoughtlessly, but we expect Blair to act thoughtlessly. We expect more of Jo. When she treats others poorly due to their class, we realize how she's just treating others poorly due to their social status.

That's not what Jo was doing in this episode. She was pointing out a way Blair acts and she has a point. Blair is very materialistic. Blair never has shown herself as a person. She's always shown herself as a rich girl from a proper family with connections. That goes back in season 1 with the way Blair has acted. Jo wasn't targeting rich people in this episode; just Blair and that's what we expect from Jo since she was introduced. I don't think saying sorry and having remorse is a lot to ask from Blair when she knows she's done something wrong. She was a hypocrite towards Jo in this episode. She expects others to show her respect when they damage her things but she doesn't need to do the same. Instead, she writes a check thinking money is all people care about or want. There's a lot to Rich Aren't Different but it's never discussed when pointing out Jo's behavior in the episode.

Originally Posted by valentina warner

I agree, those 2 had such dynamics/chemistry and opposites attracts at the same time: it's like JO was trying hard to get BLAIR to see her her point of view on how she should stop being flippant and materialistic! (in a way, she wanted so badly to show her the real world outside her bubble world)...
They really were soul sisters lol!

Exactly. Rich Aren't Different is about a situation between Blair and Jo, not how Jo thinks rich people are. Blair has always displayed herself in a certain way. Jo was pointing that out. I love Blair but she should know if she wants respect for her property, she needs to also respect other people's property. Treating people like money will solve the issue is insulting. People deserve a sincere apology and that's something Blair hasn't done prior to this episode. Remember her response to the van in The New Girl? She arrogantly says, "my mother will cover the cost". No remorse, just throw money at it and treat it like a problem that will go away. Jo's seen this kind of behavior for 4 years from Blair so that's why I don't look at her actions in a negative view in RAD.