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Scrabjan1 · 01-23-2021, 07:59 PM

Boy did that bring back memories all those cigarette ads. FKB was brought to you by Kent and show Robert Young smoking. All so acceptable.

That show where Margaret tries to set a trap for that guy Louise has been dating was badly written. First they shouldn’t have been dating for 5 years. After 5 years you wouldn’t be strangers like they were unless they saw each other once a year. It wasn’t realistic. They should have only been dating 6 months at the most. Louise looked like Tom’s older sister and his face lit up seeing Kathy. It was especially strange how she was jealous over some old girlfriend. Tom should have known that Louise couldn’t cook. They were complete strangers and just because he gets to see kids he wants to get married in ONE week. Ridiculous!! I don’t think I ever saw a more incompatible could than Louise and what’s his name.

Tankeryanker · 01-23-2021, 08:30 PM

The whole smoking thing for only a few episodes was kind of odd. I wonder if people wrote in and complained about the smoking.

stevea · 01-24-2021, 09:21 AM

Those two Louise and Tom episodes are, I think, the worst of the series.

Another one I don't like is putting Bud in the boxing ring, and he gets knocked out at the end. Who in their right mind would allow this scenario, even in 1956?

TMC · 08-30-2021, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tankeryanker

The whole smoking thing for only a few episodes was kind of odd. I wonder if people wrote in and complained about the smoking.

I wonder if it was because it didn't align too well with the "perfect dad" image that Robert Young was trying to present on the show. I mean, how are you exactly being to be seen as a good role model for children if you openly display unhealthy vices like tobacco smoking?

Tankeryanker · 08-30-2021, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TMC

I wonder if it was because it didn't align too well with the "perfect dad" image that Robert Young was trying to present on the show. I mean, how are you exactly being to be seen as a good role model for children if you openly display unhealthy vices like tobacco smoking?

I was not aware that anybody was trying to have a perfect image about anything on the show.

Smoking wasn't seen as unhealthy then.

"On this day in 1964, U.S. Surgeon General Luther Terry issued a definitive report that linked smoking cigarettes with lung cancer. Decades later, the national battle to curb smoking still smolders. "

https://www.theatlantic.com/national...-years/356910/

GentlemanJim · 04-18-2022, 01:55 AM

Interesting aside, but in season 3, episode 26 of the Alfred Hitchcock hour, "The Monkey's Paw - a retelling".....you'll see Jane Wyatt puffing away like a steam engine...deah.

stevea · 04-18-2022, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GentlemanJim

Interesting aside, but in season 3, episode 26 of the Alfred Hitchcock hour, "The Monkey's Paw - a retelling".....you'll see Jane Wyatt puffing away like a steam engine...deah.

Yet she managed to live 96 years (1910-2006).

Tankeryanker · 04-18-2022, 09:16 PM

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Yet she managed to live 96 years (1910-2006).

I just looked her up for the first time. She live/died in Bel-air, CA. She lived through the big fire of 61. They made a PSA/movie about her neighborhood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhC4mkLqvN0

Hm, the Chevrolet Bel-air was named after her neighborhood.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Bel_Air

biffbronson · 05-04-2022, 09:09 PM

I was just watching a few clips from the 1977 film Saturday Night Fever that sort of glamorized cigarette smoking. What we now may consider an all-but-unacceptable habit was once widespread in its depiction in popular culture.

After cigarette commercials were banned from TV & radio in 1970, you would still find plenty of expensive ads, like on the back covers of major magazines. It's a sort of prevalence that many younger persons today have never experienced firsthand.

Tankeryanker · 05-04-2022, 09:30 PM

^^^
I took a glance at cigarettes the last time I was in the grocery store. $11.49 for a pack of Marlboro Lights. I used to smoke 1.5 packs/day. That is $517.05 a month

You can keep a horse for that much.

stevea · 05-04-2022, 10:21 PM

I can remember when a pack of cigs was .33 at the campus bookstore, back around 1970.

It was an affordable habit back then. I'd hate to see what a carton runs now.

Tankeryanker · 05-04-2022, 11:14 PM

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I'd hate to see what a carton runs now.

$114.9

rusty spike · 04-23-2024, 03:23 PM

Here's a thought. I really don't think a bunch of non-smokers wrote in to complain because smoking was reasonably accepted. I am speculating that various sponsors of the show may have complained. This show and I Love Lucy were before my time.

I am wondering if Phillip Morris (or some other tobacco company) sponsored the first episodes of a season. Naturally, their brand or dialogue is written about feeling relaxed when smoking or the need to calm down. Their brand is showcased. Then another company underwrites/sponsors the show~ say Proctor & Gamble. Now P&G might be annoyed if the characters are sitting around smoking during those episodes. Even though it's something that is common for characters of that TV age to do, P&G may be upset that cigarettes' are being seen on screen when P&G (or some non tobacco company) is paying for the show. Just an idea why smoking is seen then disappears and the reappears from season to season.

01-23-2021, 07:59 PM	#1
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	Cigarettes? Boy did that bring back memories all those cigarette ads. FKB was brought to you by Kent and show Robert Young smoking. All so acceptable. That show where Margaret tries to set a trap for that guy Louise has been dating was badly written. First they shouldn’t have been dating for 5 years. After 5 years you wouldn’t be strangers like they were unless they saw each other once a year. It wasn’t realistic. They should have only been dating 6 months at the most. Louise looked like Tom’s older sister and his face lit up seeing Kathy. It was especially strange how she was jealous over some old girlfriend. Tom should have known that Louise couldn’t cook. They were complete strangers and just because he gets to see kids he wants to get married in ONE week. Ridiculous!! I don’t think I ever saw a more incompatible could than Louise and what’s his name.

04-18-2022, 01:55 AM	#6
GentlemanJim Concerns, Support, & Feedback Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 26, 2019 Location: The back country Posts: 5,443	Interesting aside, but in season 3, episode 26 of the Alfred Hitchcock hour, "The Monkey's Paw - a retelling".....you'll see Jane Wyatt puffing away like a steam engine...deah.
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01-23-2021, 08:30 PM	#2
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,040	The whole smoking thing for only a few episodes was kind of odd. I wonder if people wrote in and complained about the smoking.

01-24-2021, 09:21 AM	#3
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,178	Those two Louise and Tom episodes are, I think, the worst of the series. Another one I don't like is putting Bud in the boxing ring, and he gets knocked out at the end. Who in their right mind would allow this scenario, even in 1956?

05-04-2022, 09:09 PM	#9
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,273	I was just watching a few clips from the 1977 film Saturday Night Fever that sort of glamorized cigarette smoking. What we now may consider an all-but-unacceptable habit was once widespread in its depiction in popular culture. After cigarette commercials were banned from TV & radio in 1970, you would still find plenty of expensive ads, like on the back covers of major magazines. It's a sort of prevalence that many younger persons today have never experienced firsthand.

05-04-2022, 09:30 PM	#10
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,040	^^^ I took a glance at cigarettes the last time I was in the grocery store. $11.49 for a pack of Marlboro Lights. I used to smoke 1.5 packs/day. That is $517.05 a month You can keep a horse for that much.

05-04-2022, 10:21 PM	#11
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,178	I can remember when a pack of cigs was .33 at the campus bookstore, back around 1970. It was an affordable habit back then. I'd hate to see what a carton runs now.

04-23-2024, 03:23 PM	#13
rusty spike Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 08, 2015 Location: Southwest Posts: 1,124	Here's a thought. I really don't think a bunch of non-smokers wrote in to complain because smoking was reasonably accepted. I am speculating that various sponsors of the show may have complained. This show and I Love Lucy were before my time. I am wondering if Phillip Morris (or some other tobacco company) sponsored the first episodes of a season. Naturally, their brand or dialogue is written about feeling relaxed when smoking or the need to calm down. Their brand is showcased. Then another company underwrites/sponsors the show~ say Proctor & Gamble. Now P&G might be annoyed if the characters are sitting around smoking during those episodes. Even though it's something that is common for characters of that TV age to do, P&G may be upset that cigarettes' are being seen on screen when P&G (or some non tobacco company) is paying for the show. Just an idea why smoking is seen then disappears and the reappears from season to season.