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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/a...ael-j-fox.html
Michael J. Fox's NBC sitcom may be closely associated with the 1980s, but it was "TV comedy before the rise of rapid-fire barbs and winking pop culture references," says Mara Reinstein. "Aside from Alex’s adulation for then-President Ronald Reagan (boy did he savor those 1984 election results), Family Ties rarely even acknowledged the outside world." ![]() Quote:
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Good article.
It always bugs me when people say the show is dated. Too tied to the 80s because of politics because of liberal vs conservative debates between family members. Seriously people think that was only a 80s thing that stopped... Anyways that was more of the premise when the show started. It was much more than that. Otherwise it was really generational differences between parents and their kids. Which is really timeless. I love that most episodes feel like stage plays. It is not trying to fake reality. It’s about the characters and their relationships. We never saw the outside of the Keaton house. Unlike most sitcoms. Which is either stock image of a real house or a fake house on a studio backlot. Which on other shows of that time - the characters rarely, if ever, appear outside their houses. If that happened they built part of the house on a soundstage under studio lights. Which never matches any outdoors. I have never understood why the show is not rerun anymore. The real reason. I am not the best judge. I rarely watch network or cable anymore. New stuff I stream and old stuff I mostly on dvd or Blu Ray. My guess is that it partially due to it airing on NBC originally but they do not own it at all. If NBC owned it I suspect would be all over its streaming channels like Peacock. It’s owned by CBS/Paramount. It it was never on CBS and CBS hypes the shows they are more closely with. I suspected it may be more complicated than that. There was a great Just the 10 of Us Zoom reunion on YouTube. One of the producers answered why that show disappeared. Obviously it was a very short run. But his answers apply to many older shows. 1 - with all these corporate mergers in Hollywood only a small number of companies own all the film and tv shows. So that any studio has hundreds and hundreds that they can not even keep track of. 2 - was a real eye opener to me. Hard to explain it exactly worth looking up that reunion video. I will try though. It’s just way too expensive. Most fans are aware of need to get music rights approved of for DVD and Blu Ray. Much more complicated than just that. None of the contracts for these older shows anticipated anything but airing on Broadcast tv. Part of the current problem most tv and cable network have their own streaming or website, where you can watch whatever they air too. But that means paying fees for streaming or the website. Nobody wants to just broadcast anymore. Probably not just the music but actors, writers, directors too. New show know this is going to happen and is part of contracts. I remember another thread on here comparing Family Ties to Brady Bunch which is always in reruns. Seriously. Keep in mind that is before my time. Though I know of it. Hard to avoid. But not in a good way. Most of the nostalgia for that show - it’s so bad it’s good. It’s kitschy, it’s REALLY dated with 70s designs and fashion. The movies were making fun of the show. Plus Sherwood Schwartz and his successors at CBS treat as a brand that they will not let die. It had tons of sequels and spinoffs - they were all short run. Reminds me of Saved Bell. More kitschy nostalgia than memories of a good show. I am glad Family Ties is not remembered that way. |
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I don't think FT feels dated in the way the second half of Facts of Life feels dated. The occasional references to '80s-era politicians may date it, but we're not hit over the head with visual clues as to the age of the show, in the way we are on FOL. Quote:
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