Did everybody have a justifiable reason to hold a grudge against Suzanne Somers - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TMC · 11-17-2020, 04:44 AM

I mean, the Ropers (Norman Fell and Audra Lindley) left for their own series, Don Knotts was already a name performer, and John Ritter was the star of the program. So don't you think that none of them had to worry about Suzanne stealing their scenes? I don't know about Richard Kline, but was Joyce DeWitt's very public grudge for more than 30 years against Suzanne an indication of her lack of character? I mean with all due respect, to Joyce, her career essentially dissolved following the end of Three's Company in 1984. Couldn't she instead, better spent her time and effort shoring up her flagging acting prospects?

RetroGuy2000 · 11-17-2020, 05:43 AM

Suzanne just wasn't honest, and she's contradicted herself in so many interviews. I don't blame John, Joyce, or the producers for distancing themselves from her for so many years.

Chris Mann basically says the same thing in his fifth podcast: that she was so smart, funny, and talented, but her reality is very different from anyone else's... or what's been recorded on tape and film.

SitcomsHeydayfan · 11-18-2020, 06:27 AM

HELL YES they did!

Suzanne chose MONEY over her castmates PERIOD! John told Suzanne you don't renegotiate in the middle of the season but she did it anyway. She got dumb ideas from her dopey husband!

TVFactFan · 11-19-2020, 01:53 AM

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I mean, the Ropers (Norman Fell and Audra Langley) left for their own series, Don Knotts was already a name performer, and John Ritter was the star of the program. So don't you think that none of them had to worry about Suzanne stealing their scenes. I don't know about Richard Kline, but was Joyce DeWitt's very public grudge for more than 30 years against Suzanne an indication of her lack of character? I mean with all due respect, to Joyce, her career essentially dissolved following the end of Three's Company in 1984. Couldn't she instead, better spent her time and effort shoring up her flagging acting prospects?

Yes if they had to rehearse with two extra scripts. Why wouldnt they if they had to do more work with her being out???

TMC · 03-18-2021, 03:36 AM

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HELL YES they did!

Suzanne chose MONEY over her castmates PERIOD! John told Suzanne you don't renegotiate in the middle of the season but she did it anyway. She got dumb ideas from her dopey husband!

It's one thing if Suzanne just demanded a raise, then people would've merely seen her as just being greedy when it was without reason. But Suzanne was also being unprofessional. Who in their right mind, refuses to show up for work in early into a season? This naturally caused the producers to scramble and redo the scripts.

Why couldn't Suzanne do what Farrah Fawcett did when she bailed on Charlie's Angels after the first season? Farrah waited until filming wrapped for the season to leave. Of course, Suzanne herself, has reframed her shenanigans as a feminist standing up to the patriarchy to demand equal pay.

DORVID · 03-18-2021, 12:06 PM

Old news.

TMC · 06-01-2023, 02:31 AM

I don't know if this is true but allegedly, the producers did not keep Jenilee Harrison's Cindy Snow because they were so ticked at Suzanne that they wanted to completely and totally remove all remnants of the Chrissy character from the show. This meant writing off Cindy after Priscilla Barnes was hired to play Terri Alden because she was related to Chrissy (and therefore putting Harrison out of a job).

39ForestHills · 06-01-2023, 06:03 PM

Wow, that is really ******. I never liked how the producers wrote off Cindy Snow.

thejasoomian · 06-01-2023, 08:41 PM

I think when she didn't get her way, she chose to go on the talk shows and trash the show.
She thought she would get the show canceled. To me, that's thinking about yourself and nobody else. So I'd say at that point , they did have a justifiable reason. It was their livelihood too.

thejasoomian · 06-01-2023, 08:48 PM

The thing is this for me, Suzanne claims in interviews that she only wanted what John was making because she felt she was his equal on the show. Okay, but John was making $50k not $150k. Even today she neglects to say that it was her greed that cost her job. She wanted $150k plus 10% of the show profits plus merchandise. Even to this day, she leaves this part out.

TVFactFan · 06-01-2023, 10:11 PM

No one is going to have a good relationship with a coworker who stops coming to work and still employed

TMC · 07-03-2023, 02:14 AM

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No one is going to have a good relationship with a coworker who stops coming to work and still employed

And maybe John and Joyce were particularly angry with Suzanne because she was messing with their livelihoods and job security. I mean, I would imagine that they as actors were worried that Suzanne would get show cancelled or without her it would tank. And Suzanne was basically, hijacking the show at the beginning of the fifth season (1980-81) and they never knew if she was going show up or not.

TVFactFan · 07-03-2023, 02:24 AM

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And maybe John and Joyce were particularly angry with Suzanne because she was messing with their livelihoods and job security. I mean, I would imagine that they as actors were worried that Suzanne would get show cancelled or without her it would tank. And Suzanne was basically, hijacking the show at the beginning of the fifth season (1980-81) and they never knew if she was going show up or not.

Plus they had to do more work while Suzaane was out until Jenilee Harrison came on board

BestTVever · 07-03-2023, 07:19 AM

It was Suzanne's behavior that people had issue with. The People magazine shoot started trouble with Suzanne on the cover and John and Joyce cut and paste smaller above Suzanne. Her ego started to grow. No doubt ALL of them were underpaid based on other networks and the success of the show. But when she started not showing up, faking illness, and demanding more money was a major factor. A bridge too far for ABC was that Suzanne had a tentative deal with CBS to do a show with them based on the Chrissy Snow character.
So yes, her behavior caused major disruption on the set.

ClarenceAlabama · 07-03-2023, 05:34 PM

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The thing is this for me, Suzanne claims in interviews that she only wanted what John was making because she felt she was his equal on the show. Okay, but John was making $50k not $150k. Even today she neglects to say that it was her greed that cost her job. She wanted $150k plus 10% of the show profits plus merchandise. Even to this day, she leaves this part out.

I remember in one interview she claimed she asked for a higher price than she really wanted as a negotiation tactic and she was willing to go down some until it was a fair price.

She refuses to say that she F'd up.

11-17-2020, 04:44 AM	#1
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 125,403	Did everybody have a justifiable reason to hold a grudge against Suzanne Somers I mean, the Ropers (Norman Fell and Audra Lindley) left for their own series, Don Knotts was already a name performer, and John Ritter was the star of the program. So don't you think that none of them had to worry about Suzanne stealing their scenes? I don't know about Richard Kline, but was Joyce DeWitt's very public grudge for more than 30 years against Suzanne an indication of her lack of character? I mean with all due respect, to Joyce, her career essentially dissolved following the end of Three's Company in 1984. Couldn't she instead, better spent her time and effort shoring up her flagging acting prospects?
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11-17-2020, 05:43 AM	#2
RetroGuy2000 Julie,Julie Anne,&Felice 4Ever Forum Star Join Date: Dec 27, 2013 Posts: 16,914	Suzanne just wasn't honest, and she's contradicted herself in so many interviews. I don't blame John, Joyce, or the producers for distancing themselves from her for so many years. Chris Mann basically says the same thing in his fifth podcast: that she was so smart, funny, and talented, but her reality is very different from anyone else's... or what's been recorded on tape and film.
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11-18-2020, 06:27 AM	#3
SitcomsHeydayfan Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2018 Location: The Show Me state Posts: 2,966	HELL YES they did! Suzanne chose MONEY over her castmates PERIOD! John told Suzanne you don't renegotiate in the middle of the season but she did it anyway. She got dumb ideas from her dopey husband!

03-18-2021, 12:06 PM	#6
DORVID Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 13, 2020 Posts: 408	Old news.

06-01-2023, 02:31 AM	#7
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 125,403	I don't know if this is true but allegedly, the producers did not keep Jenilee Harrison's Cindy Snow because they were so ticked at Suzanne that they wanted to completely and totally remove all remnants of the Chrissy character from the show. This meant writing off Cindy after Priscilla Barnes was hired to play Terri Alden because she was related to Chrissy (and therefore putting Harrison out of a job).

06-01-2023, 06:03 PM	#8
39ForestHills Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 03, 2023 Posts: 15	Wow, that is really ******. I never liked how the producers wrote off Cindy Snow.

06-01-2023, 08:41 PM	#9
thejasoomian Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 15, 2019 Posts: 327	I think when she didn't get her way, she chose to go on the talk shows and trash the show. She thought she would get the show canceled. To me, that's thinking about yourself and nobody else. So I'd say at that point , they did have a justifiable reason. It was their livelihood too.

06-01-2023, 08:48 PM	#10
thejasoomian Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 15, 2019 Posts: 327	The thing is this for me, Suzanne claims in interviews that she only wanted what John was making because she felt she was his equal on the show. Okay, but John was making $50k not $150k. Even today she neglects to say that it was her greed that cost her job. She wanted $150k plus 10% of the show profits plus merchandise. Even to this day, she leaves this part out.

06-01-2023, 10:11 PM	#11
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,018	No one is going to have a good relationship with a coworker who stops coming to work and still employed

07-03-2023, 07:19 AM	#14
BestTVever Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 29, 2021 Location: Miami Posts: 1,900	It was Suzanne's behavior that people had issue with. The People magazine shoot started trouble with Suzanne on the cover and John and Joyce cut and paste smaller above Suzanne. Her ego started to grow. No doubt ALL of them were underpaid based on other networks and the success of the show. But when she started not showing up, faking illness, and demanding more money was a major factor. A bridge too far for ABC was that Suzanne had a tentative deal with CBS to do a show with them based on the Chrissy Snow character. So yes, her behavior caused major disruption on the set.