The Simpsons boss thinks Michael Jackson used the show to "groom boys" - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TMC · 03-13-2019, 11:53 AM

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-si...-to-groom-boys

In a wide-ranging interview with The Daily Beast, longtime Simpsons showrunner Al Jean discusses everything from the Disney merger to satirizing President Trump. Jean also addresses last week's joint decisions by The Simpsons creators and producers to yank the Season 3 "Stark Raving Dad" episode featuring the King of Pop's voice. "Yes. It wasn’t something that makes me happy," Jean says of pulling the episode. "It’s something I agree with completely. What saddens me is, if you watch that (Leaving Neverland) documentary—which I did, and several of us here did—and you watch that episode, honestly, it looks like the episode was used by Michael Jackson for something other than what we’d intended it. It wasn’t just a comedy to him, it was something that was used as a tool. And I strongly believe that. That, to me, is my belief, and it’s why I think removing it is appropriate. I lose a little bit of money financially, it’s not something that’s great personally to lose one of the most successful things I ever did, but I totally think it’s the right move. I don’t believe in going through and making judgments on every guest star and saying 'this one was bad, that one was bad,' but the episode itself has a false purpose, and that’s what I object to about it now." Asked to specify the false purpose, Jean responds: "I think it was part of what he used to groom boys. I really don’t know, and I should be very careful because this is not something I know personally, but as far as what I think, that’s what I think. And that makes me very, very sad."

tlc38tlc38 · 03-13-2019, 12:34 PM

This is like a case of pot calling kettle black. Al Jean is a sick pervert and for him to “criticize” is hypocritical.

cloggedmind · 03-13-2019, 03:44 PM

Al Jean co-wrote the episode. Exactly what was his "intent"?

TMC · 03-13-2019, 05:13 PM

If you read the interview he says that he only realized that Jackson used them for nefarious purposes while watching the documentary:

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What saddens me is, if you watch that documentary—which I did, and several of us here did—and you watch that episode, honestly, it looks like the episode was used by Michael Jackson for something other than what we’d intended it. It wasn’t just a comedy to him, it was something that was used as a tool. And I strongly believe that. That, to me, is my belief, and it’s why I think removing it is appropriate. I lose a little bit of money financially, it’s not something that’s great personally to lose one of the most successful things I ever did, but I totally think it’s the right move. I don’t believe in going through and making judgments on every guest star and saying “this one was bad, that one was bad,” but the episode itself has a false purpose, and that’s what I object to about it now.

DJM77 · 03-13-2019, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tlc38tlc38

Al Jean is a sick pervert

I'm not saying that you're wrong, but what do you base this on?

TMC · 03-14-2019, 03:10 AM

On the same token however, did Michael Jackson have full creative control of the episode? Did he agree to appear only if certain stories were told? Or did he just follow the script presented to him? At the time, he used a pseudonym as well, so there was doubt that it was the real Michael Jackson on the episode at all.

tlc38tlc38 · 03-14-2019, 09:55 AM

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I'm not saying that you're wrong, but what do you base this on?

Obviously, I’m not a fan of the show. I never have been a fan of it. To me, it’s one of the most disgusting and degrading things put on TV. That’s why I think the way I do.

JamesG · 03-14-2019, 12:38 PM

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Obviously, I’m not a fan of the show. I never have been a fan of it. To me, it’s one of the most disgusting and degrading things put on TV. That’s why I think the way I do.

So you call someone a pervert because you don't like the show?

tlc38tlc38 · 03-14-2019, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

So you call someone a pervert because you don't like the show?

Only a pervert could develop such a disgraceful show.

DJM77 · 03-14-2019, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tlc38tlc38

Obviously, I’m not a fan of the show. I never have been a fan of it. To me, it’s one of the most disgusting and degrading things put on TV. That’s why I think the way I do.

Despite my avatar and my signature I actually finally quit watching The Simpsons last year because I got sick of all the blasphemous jokes.

On the other hand, I've always felt like The Simpsons is extremely tame when compared to the likes of South Park or Family Guy. By modern standards there's really not a whole lot of sexual humor on The Simpsons.

Are Matt Parker, Trey Stone and Seth MacFarlane sick perverts? Absolutely!

Is Al Jean a sick pervert? I doubt it.

opus · 03-14-2019, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tlc38tlc38

Only a pervert could develop such a disgraceful show.

So true. Only the creepiest people get involved with that show

tlc38tlc38 · 03-15-2019, 09:06 AM

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So true. Only the creepiest people get involved with that show

That’s the only thing she did that I don’t like.

JamesG · 03-15-2019, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tlc38tlc38

Only a pervert could develop such a disgraceful show.

Disgraceful? You're in the minority on that one.

tlc38tlc38 · 03-15-2019, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

Disgraceful? You're in the minority on that one.

I enjoy and take pride in being in the minority.

cbikle · 03-15-2019, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

Disgraceful? You're in the minority on that one.

That poster is really Ned Flanders.

03-13-2019, 11:53 AM	#1
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,925	The Simpsons boss thinks Michael Jackson used the show to "groom boys" https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-si...-to-groom-boys In a wide-ranging interview with The Daily Beast, longtime Simpsons showrunner Al Jean discusses everything from the Disney merger to satirizing President Trump. Jean also addresses last week's joint decisions by The Simpsons creators and producers to yank the Season 3 "Stark Raving Dad" episode featuring the King of Pop's voice. "Yes. It wasn’t something that makes me happy," Jean says of pulling the episode. "It’s something I agree with completely. What saddens me is, if you watch that (Leaving Neverland) documentary—which I did, and several of us here did—and you watch that episode, honestly, it looks like the episode was used by Michael Jackson for something other than what we’d intended it. It wasn’t just a comedy to him, it was something that was used as a tool. And I strongly believe that. That, to me, is my belief, and it’s why I think removing it is appropriate. I lose a little bit of money financially, it’s not something that’s great personally to lose one of the most successful things I ever did, but I totally think it’s the right move. I don’t believe in going through and making judgments on every guest star and saying 'this one was bad, that one was bad,' but the episode itself has a false purpose, and that’s what I object to about it now." Asked to specify the false purpose, Jean responds: "I think it was part of what he used to groom boys. I really don’t know, and I should be very careful because this is not something I know personally, but as far as what I think, that’s what I think. And that makes me very, very sad."

03-13-2019, 12:34 PM	#2
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03-13-2019, 03:44 PM	#3
cloggedmind Inactive Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 30, 2007 Posts: 529	Al Jean co-wrote the episode. Exactly what was his "intent"?

03-14-2019, 03:10 AM	#6
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,925	On the same token however, did Michael Jackson have full creative control of the episode? Did he agree to appear only if certain stories were told? Or did he just follow the script presented to him? At the time, he used a pseudonym as well, so there was doubt that it was the real Michael Jackson on the episode at all.