Was it a mistake mistake giving Rhoda and Phyllis their own shows - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TMC · 09-22-2018, 08:36 PM

In other words, the ensemble was what made MTM such a great show and once you lost those two important pieces of the puzzle, MTM was never quite as good. And both those shows ended up flopping so it was all for naught.

DJM77 · 09-22-2018, 08:56 PM

Rhoda wasn't as successful as The Mary Tyler Moore Show, but I wouldn't consider it a flop.

Impressions · 09-22-2018, 08:59 PM

I never understood why Phyllis got her own show. That was a colossal failure.

CosmicCharlie · 03-06-2019, 12:06 AM

sorry but Rhoda is usually not my fav on MTM show - masculine NYC girl - no thanks

Phyllis - never have seen her show

RetroGuy2000 · 03-06-2019, 12:23 AM

They should have waited until MTM Show was cancelled... then any spin-offs would have been icing on the cake.

Edward216 · 04-10-2019, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DJM77

Rhoda wasn't as successful as The Mary Tyler Moore Show, but I wouldn't consider it a flop.

I agree, I wouldn't call Rhoda a failure either. But then I suppose I'm biased because I would say Phyllis was a mistake. I liked the character of Rhoda but I really didn't like Phyllis all that much.

Ed.

Chocolate Moose · 04-10-2019, 04:43 PM

I remember liking them!

AB · 04-10-2019, 07:05 PM

Rhoda having a show was a good choice. The marriage, divorce, then her dating again made for some good episodes. Phyllis however just wasn't likable enough to carry her own show.

king of comedy · 04-10-2019, 07:39 PM

Rhoda yes, Phyllis no. Lou Grant? Now that one was great.

AB · 04-10-2019, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by king of comedy

Rhoda yes, Phyllis no. Lou Grant? Now that one was great.

Yeah I agree Lou Grant was a good show.

rcbrad · 04-10-2019, 08:14 PM

Both Rhoda and Phyllis were top ten shows. Rhoda lasted for Five seasons, I would hardly call that a flop. I have never heard anyone describe Rhoda as masculine. The MTM show continued to be an ensemble type show with high quality remaining, even with Rhoda and Phyllis leaving. They really were not gone, we saw even more of them when they each had their own series.

JSP · 04-16-2019, 12:12 AM

No, it was not a mistake.

TVShowAddict · 04-16-2019, 12:37 AM

I am not sure how you can say Rhonda is a flop since it lasted 5 seasons, if it flopped then it would only last 1 season

09-22-2018, 08:36 PM	#1
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,142	Was it a mistake mistake giving Rhoda and Phyllis their own shows In other words, the ensemble was what made MTM such a great show and once you lost those two important pieces of the puzzle, MTM was never quite as good. And both those shows ended up flopping so it was all for naught.

09-22-2018, 08:56 PM	#2
DJM77 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: May 15, 2001 Location: Missouri Posts: 5,564	Rhoda wasn't as successful as The Mary Tyler Moore Show, but I wouldn't consider it a flop.
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Chocolate Moose Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 4,898	I remember liking them!
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09-22-2018, 08:59 PM	#3
Impressions She died the way she lived Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 08, 2002 Posts: 4,640	I never understood why Phyllis got her own show. That was a colossal failure.

03-06-2019, 12:06 AM	#4
CosmicCharlie Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2019 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,435	sorry but Rhoda is usually not my fav on MTM show - masculine NYC girl - no thanks Phyllis - never have seen her show

04-10-2019, 07:05 PM	#8
AB Member Eternal Member Forum Icon Join Date: Dec 26, 2006 Location: The South Posts: 59,429	Rhoda having a show was a good choice. The marriage, divorce, then her dating again made for some good episodes. Phyllis however just wasn't likable enough to carry her own show.

04-10-2019, 07:39 PM	#9
king of comedy Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Aug 31, 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,140	Rhoda yes, Phyllis no. Lou Grant? Now that one was great.

04-10-2019, 08:14 PM	#11
rcbrad Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 21, 2007 Posts: 479	Both Rhoda and Phyllis were top ten shows. Rhoda lasted for Five seasons, I would hardly call that a flop. I have never heard anyone describe Rhoda as masculine. The MTM show continued to be an ensemble type show with high quality remaining, even with Rhoda and Phyllis leaving. They really were not gone, we saw even more of them when they each had their own series.

04-16-2019, 12:12 AM	#12
JSP Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 19, 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,735	No, it was not a mistake.

04-16-2019, 12:37 AM	#13
TVShowAddict Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 12, 2018 Posts: 298	I am not sure how you can say Rhonda is a flop since it lasted 5 seasons, if it flopped then it would only last 1 season