Alec Baldwin complains that John Oliver and Stephen Colbert have turned their shows

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...into “grand juries”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...s-grand-juries

“Talk shows were once promotional pit stops for some blithe chit chat about movies, etc. Now the likes of @iamjohnoliver and @StephenAtHome have flipped that and they are beginning to resemble grand juries,” Baldwin tweeted this morning. The tweet, which apparently was sent out of outrage over Oliver’s sparring with Dustin Hoffman, is puzzling since Oliver doesn’t usually conduct celebrity interviews on Last Week Tonight. Baldwin's tweet also comes less than a week after Oliver appeared to take a "veiled shot" at Baldwin's Trump impression. ALSO: Michael Rapaport calls Oliver a “selfish f*ck” for his treatment of Hoffman.

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Alec Baldwin Defends Tweet Knocking Late Night Shows as “Grand Juries”
by Lisa de Moraes
December 7, 2017


Alec Baldwin took to "Megyn Kelly’s Today" hour to talk about his latest controversial tweet, this time reminiscing about the days when talk shows were “once promotional pit stops for some blithe chit chat about movies, etc.”

Now, Baldwin’s Wednesday tweet continued, owing to “the likes of” John Oliver and Stephen Colbert, the shows “have flipped that and they are beginning to resemble grand juries.”





“And a lot of people by the way, they endorse that,” Baldwin conceded, on "Megyn Kelly Today". “They think that those hosts of those shows are perfectly, not only within their rights, but it’s very attractive or very necessary for them to be pressing this cause. I just don’t want to see people who are innocent get into trouble…

Harvey Weinstein, for example, is in a rehab hiding behind millions of dollars’ worth of lawyers. And I want to see the people who really did something get convicted. I want the people who are the wrong, I want them to be punished. But I don’t want to see innocent people get hurt either.”





Baldwin’s latest controversial tweet came after Oliver asked Dustin Hoffman about a former production assistant’s allegation he sexually harassed her on the Death of a Salesman set in the ’80s, while moderating a film fest anniversary screening of Wag the Dog at the 92nd St. Y.

Kelly, Thursday morning, described it as Oliver having “cross examined” Hoffman.



“For me, what is different, what is odd, this is no excuse, but like 40 years ago there was a kind of way that people had a kind of sexualized by-play, and a kind of fooling around that was wrong,” Baldwin argued.

“You look back and you say it was wrong then. But it seemed to be less problematic than it is now. Where we live now, there are a lot of things you just don’t do any more. Women put up with it more but now they don’t put up with it.

And there are people who say that if an entire television show and all very well paid crew and cast of that show lose their jobs , year ago that was used as means of leveraging the woman to keep quiet: you don’t want to put all those people out of work.”

Now, Baldwin added, “that’s collateral damage.”






Kelly wondered into which category Baldwin would put his friend James Toback. Baldwin said he had not seen much of Toback lately but condemned “anyone who is guilty of this kind of predatory behavior.”

“Men that I know, and I think most women would agree with this, we don’t understand men who want a woman, her tears streaming down her face and she is begging you not to do the thing you are going to do, most men that I know would say, what’s with that?”

http://deadline.com/2017/12/alec-bal...nt-1202221872/

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Originally Posted by JamesG

Alec Baldwin Defends Tweet Knocking Late Night Shows as “Grand Juries”
by Lisa de Moraes
December 7, 2017


Alec Baldwin took to "Megyn Kelly’s Today" hour to talk about his latest controversial tweet, this time reminiscing about the days when talk shows were “once promotional pit stops for some blithe chit chat about movies, etc.”

Now, Baldwin’s Wednesday tweet continued, owing to “the likes of” John Oliver and Stephen Colbert, the shows “have flipped that and they are beginning to resemble grand juries.”





“And a lot of people by the way, they endorse that,” Baldwin conceded, on "Megyn Kelly Today". “They think that those hosts of those shows are perfectly, not only within their rights, but it’s very attractive or very necessary for them to be pressing this cause. I just don’t want to see people who are innocent get into trouble…

Harvey Weinstein, for example, is in a rehab hiding behind millions of dollars’ worth of lawyers. And I want to see the people who really did something get convicted. I want the people who are the wrong, I want them to be punished. But I don’t want to see innocent people get hurt either.”





Baldwin’s latest controversial tweet came after Oliver asked Dustin Hoffman about a former production assistant’s allegation he sexually harassed her on the Death of a Salesman set in the ’80s, while moderating a film fest anniversary screening of Wag the Dog at the 92nd St. Y.

Kelly, Thursday morning, described it as Oliver having “cross examined” Hoffman.



“For me, what is different, what is odd, this is no excuse, but like 40 years ago there was a kind of way that people had a kind of sexualized by-play, and a kind of fooling around that was wrong,” Baldwin argued.

“You look back and you say it was wrong then. But it seemed to be less problematic than it is now. Where we live now, there are a lot of things you just don’t do any more. Women put up with it more but now they don’t put up with it.

And there are people who say that if an entire television show and all very well paid crew and cast of that show lose their jobs , year ago that was used as means of leveraging the woman to keep quiet: you don’t want to put all those people out of work.”

Now, Baldwin added, “that’s collateral damage.”






Kelly wondered into which category Baldwin would put his friend James Toback. Baldwin said he had not seen much of Toback lately but condemned “anyone who is guilty of this kind of predatory behavior.”

“Men that I know, and I think most women would agree with this, we don’t understand men who want a woman, her tears streaming down her face and she is begging you not to do the thing you are going to do, most men that I know would say, what’s with that?”

http://deadline.com/2017/12/alec-bal...nt-1202221872/

• The problem with Baldwin’s “it was a different time” defense is that it’s part and parcel of the thinking that enables the more ‘malicious’ behavior"
  
  Baldwin attempted to use Hollywood's history of sexism to exonerate Hoffman