Misogynistic 90s TV moments that'll make you cringe today - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TMC · 10-14-2017, 04:15 AM

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The 1990s produced a lot of good TV. From the family-friendly sitcom line-up on TGIF to the cheeky Must-See TV slate to teen dramas that would mold a generation of audiences, there were a ton of successful shows that still court nostalgia from fans. But even some of the most-favored series of all had their moments of missing the cultural mark and producing some scenes that are hard to watch in retrospect. In the case of these shows, the misogyny contained in certain exchanges is so intense that it might surprise you.

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Furienna · 10-16-2017, 08:53 AM

I don't believe that Uncle Phil on "Fresh Prince" was an idiot either.

But as for the article, I find it extraordinary that nobody stopped that "whoroscope" joke on "Full House". Such a crude sense of humor has no place in a family show like that. But I guess that it must have gone completely over the heads of the producers...

When it comes to the other shows on that list though, I don't believe that we were meant to agree with the stupid and rotten behavior, that the sitcom characters had at times. Like in that episode from "That 70's show", we were obviously supposed to agree with Donna and not with the others.

And as for Will on "Fresh Prince", he was often called out on the show on how he treated girls. And if you watch the show properly, you will see that most of these girls didn't stay with him that long. So I guess that they were smart and strong enough to not allow him to act like a pig around them.

I have not followed the other shows mentioned in this article long enough to say much about them. Except that I agree that it sounds gross that Tim on "Home Improvement" drooled over his sister-in-law. Not because I would call it misogynistic, but because it was his brother's wife AND he was already married himself. I have to agree though that if Tim excused it away with blaming this on the sister-in-law's hotness, that makes it if possible even worse.

But as for the grandmother, who pretty much blamed her granddaughter for almost being raped... It sounds like she was just being an old lady, who had grown up with old time values and couldn't see that it would sound wrong to younger generations. It would have been much worse to me if the victim blaming had come from somebody, who was in the girl's own age group.

mets82 · 10-17-2017, 12:49 AM

Some of the points I can understand. The whole "grab a spoon" is a reach for me. That's sexist? The Elaine cleavage scene I just found funny. If anything, what makes me cringe in that episode is George checking out a 15 year old's cleavage.

As far as Full House goes, I don't Stephanie was calling Kimmy a whore. The way I saw it described in the article was that Stephanie was calling Kimmy's face horrible.

Furienna · 10-18-2017, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mets82

The whole "grab a spoon" is a reach for me. That's sexist?

It seems like the point the writer of the article is trying to make is, that it sounded like Joey suggested that we women are just put here on Earth to please men. And we should have no other desire than to fullfil that role. I don't believe that we're supposed to agree with Joey though...

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Originally Posted by mets83

The Elaine cleavage scene I just found funny. If anything, what makes me cringe in that episode is George checking out a 15 year old's cleavage.

I simply don't get why Elaine would want to demean herself by helping her friends with that. If I had a male friend, who was checking out a 15-year-old's cleavage, I would have said: "You're on your own, dude".

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Originally Posted by mets83

As far as Full House goes, I don't Stephanie was calling Kimmy a whore. The way I saw it described in the article was that Stephanie was calling Kimmy's face horrible.

Interesting point.

mets82 · 10-18-2017, 11:39 PM

So, she wasn't a teenager?

mets82 · 10-19-2017, 12:10 AM

Oh, I didn't know that. Now it makes a little more sense and not George out to be a pervert.

10-16-2017, 08:53 AM	#2
Furienna Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Oct 22, 2006 Location: Örnsköldsvik, Sweden Posts: 6,277	I don't believe that Uncle Phil on "Fresh Prince" was an idiot either. But as for the article, I find it extraordinary that nobody stopped that "whoroscope" joke on "Full House". Such a crude sense of humor has no place in a family show like that. But I guess that it must have gone completely over the heads of the producers... When it comes to the other shows on that list though, I don't believe that we were meant to agree with the stupid and rotten behavior, that the sitcom characters had at times. Like in that episode from "That 70's show", we were obviously supposed to agree with Donna and not with the others. And as for Will on "Fresh Prince", he was often called out on the show on how he treated girls. And if you watch the show properly, you will see that most of these girls didn't stay with him that long. So I guess that they were smart and strong enough to not allow him to act like a pig around them. I have not followed the other shows mentioned in this article long enough to say much about them. Except that I agree that it sounds gross that Tim on "Home Improvement" drooled over his sister-in-law. Not because I would call it misogynistic, but because it was his brother's wife AND he was already married himself. I have to agree though that if Tim excused it away with blaming this on the sister-in-law's hotness, that makes it if possible even worse. But as for the grandmother, who pretty much blamed her granddaughter for almost being raped... It sounds like she was just being an old lady, who had grown up with old time values and couldn't see that it would sound wrong to younger generations. It would have been much worse to me if the victim blaming had come from somebody, who was in the girl's own age group.
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10-17-2017, 12:49 AM	#3
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	Some of the points I can understand. The whole "grab a spoon" is a reach for me. That's sexist? The Elaine cleavage scene I just found funny. If anything, what makes me cringe in that episode is George checking out a 15 year old's cleavage. As far as Full House goes, I don't Stephanie was calling Kimmy a whore. The way I saw it described in the article was that Stephanie was calling Kimmy's face horrible.
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10-18-2017, 11:39 PM	#5
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	So, she wasn't a teenager?

10-19-2017, 12:10 AM	#6
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	Oh, I didn't know that. Now it makes a little more sense and not George out to be a pervert.