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TMC · 05-11-2015, 02:15 AM

http://www.inquisitr.com/2079713/ame...son-15-report/

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A blog on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that Idol ratings have gone down every season since Season 5, with the exception of Season 10. That season was the first without Simon Cowell and the first with Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler. Now in Season 14, Idol brings in about 10 million viewers per week.

Recent Idol winners have had some difficulties getting traction in the music industry. Last year’s winner Caleb Johnson has already split with Interscope Records and self-funded a video shoot and his own tour. Season 11 winner Phillip Phillips recently sued his Idol-mandated management team and record company for not acting in his interest.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...whos-up-794634

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Where It Stands: The top series on broadcast — Empire, which averaged a 7.1 rating in the key demo, just shy of Sunday Night Football — is sure to garner more upfront airtime than any of its new shows. Sources say Gary Newman and Dana Walden's first appearance as TV Group chairmen will bring news that the hip-hop drama has been given a heftier 18-episode order. "The heat is now on Empire to sustain its audience and launch something else," SMGx's Sam Armando says of the No. 4 network, which still suffered a dramatic 20 percent ratings drop courtesy of flop Utopia, more American Idol fatigue and Sleepy Hollow's sophomore slump. Idol will return with the same trio of judges, but insiders say the 15th season will be cut back and is expected to be the series' last.

Vahan · 05-11-2015, 01:20 PM

And nothing of value was lost.

Mr. Television · 05-11-2015, 02:41 PM

Been waiting 15 years for this.

TMC · 05-11-2015, 03:45 PM

http://time.com/3853612/american-ido...st-season-fox/

The news that Idol is ending next year after 15 seasons isn't surprising, says Daniel D'Addario. But "there's still something surreal about the end of Idol, not least because at the show's peak, it seemed like it'd never come," he says. Despite its dominance, he adds, "Idol seemed to learn all the wrong lessons from its success, doubling down on the show's worst and most annoying aspects. The fighting between judges Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul, always ancillary to the main action of the show, amped up year after year."

king of comedy · 05-11-2015, 04:38 PM

We'll always have The Voice. I heard that one is better.

TMC · 05-11-2015, 06:51 PM

Simon Cowell leaving is a factor but not the primary factor. Simon had no problem letting you know that although you sound OK you're nothing special. The judges now seem to pick people that they find personally, entertaining, but not necessarily the audience. Unless they're the ones who are going to be buying the artists' albums, it should be the latter.

The Voice however, is a big problem. With its more evolved competition format, it makes Idol look pedestrian and boring, especially in the early audition rounds that, in the early seasons, were unpredictable and inspiring.

Unsuccessful winners and contestants is another major factor. Last season may have been the final straw, even though this season's group is arguably much stronger. And the year before, they manipulated it for Candice Glover to win and for all the men to go out first, and she had no star power. What has really ruined the show is the combination of too many predictable "White Guy with Guitar" winners and a lack of success from both said winners and the few supremely talented also-rans of recent seasons -- Joshua Ledet, Jessica Sanchez, Haley Reinhart. Idol saturated the music industry with its talent, and the music industry no longer makes superstars out of Idol contestants, whether they deserve it or not.

It wasn't really a competition show anymore, it was a self promoting, variety show, karaoke hour.

MrCleveland · 05-11-2015, 08:29 PM

I'm glad that this show is done...I hope The Simpsons are next...but they'll keep that show on until Cleveland wins a Championship!

TMC · 05-12-2015, 04:23 PM

http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...-idol-reaction

"I'm a huge fan of boxing," says Lythgoe, "and it's like when you're watching a real heavyweight boxer getting to the end of their career, and all these young whippersnappers are coming up: You've got to know when to retire." PLUS: Why Idol still matters, and Simon Cowell says "We had a blast!"

mets82 · 05-12-2015, 04:49 PM

Idol was a show I never got into. I tried in 2008, I think, but I just couldnt get into it. I think the show got long in the tooth just because it was oversaturated. I mean, at one time, wasnt the show on for 2 hrs.,3 times a week? Plus, like everything else, people just get sick of it. Also, there needed to be more Carrie Underwood's or Kelly Clarkson's that won it and it never happened.

TMC · 05-13-2015, 01:15 PM

http://tvline.com/2015/05/12/america...on-15-reasons/

Another problem, says Michael Slezak, is that producers forgot what made the show so great: "I'm not saying Fox's reality granddaddy needed to amp up the sob stories, but the near total absence the last few seasons of contestant interviews — and any genuine revelations about their lives and loves — has made it vastly easier to detach from the Idol process. Think back to the glory days of Season 8 — when Kris Allen, Adam Lambert, Allison Iraheta and their cohorts garnered the lion's share of water-cooler chatter, capturing our hearts just as much as our ears."

UMFaninMD · 05-14-2015, 08:20 PM

It should have ended years ago. And the fact that they didn't allow for older performers looking for their big break may have hurt them because these reality/competition shows tend to attract older viewers who may get tired of seeing young and pretty singers year after year. That might be why America's Got Talent does well, because they don't limit the age, appearance, or type of performer.

irehtman · 05-15-2015, 07:31 AM

What caused the letdown of this show was the Season 2 finale, period!

Torgo · 05-15-2015, 08:59 AM

I thought this show was canceled years ago.

afijamesy2k · 05-15-2015, 01:02 PM

But I Truly think the departure of simon cowell was the BIG factor that cause the show to jump the shark, let's face it without him the show ain't nothing.

afijamesy2k · 05-15-2015, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UMFaninMD

It should have ended years ago. And the fact that they didn't allow for older performers looking for their big break may have hurt them because these reality/competition shows tend to attract older viewers who may get tired of seeing young and pretty singers year after year. That might be why America's Got Talent does well, because they don't limit the age, appearance, or type of performer.

Not to mention it got replaced by the voice.

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05-11-2015, 03:45 PM	#4
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,525	American Idol was the victim of its own success http://time.com/3853612/american-ido...st-season-fox/ The news that Idol is ending next year after 15 seasons isn't surprising, says Daniel D'Addario. But "there's still something surreal about the end of Idol, not least because at the show's peak, it seemed like it'd never come," he says. Despite its dominance, he adds, "Idol seemed to learn all the wrong lessons from its success, doubling down on the show's worst and most annoying aspects. The fighting between judges Simon Cowell and Paula Abdul, always ancillary to the main action of the show, amped up year after year."

05-11-2015, 08:29 PM	#7
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05-12-2015, 04:23 PM	#8
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,525	Former Idol boss Nigel Lythgoe agrees with pulling the plug http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...-idol-reaction "I'm a huge fan of boxing," says Lythgoe, "and it's like when you're watching a real heavyweight boxer getting to the end of their career, and all these young whippersnappers are coming up: You've got to know when to retire." PLUS: Why Idol still matters, and Simon Cowell says "We had a blast!"

05-12-2015, 04:49 PM	#9
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	Idol was a show I never got into. I tried in 2008, I think, but I just couldnt get into it. I think the show got long in the tooth just because it was oversaturated. I mean, at one time, wasnt the show on for 2 hrs.,3 times a week? Plus, like everything else, people just get sick of it. Also, there needed to be more Carrie Underwood's or Kelly Clarkson's that won it and it never happened.
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05-11-2015, 01:20 PM	#2
Vahan Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2008 Posts: 2,712	And nothing of value was lost.

05-11-2015, 04:38 PM	#5
king of comedy Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Aug 31, 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,140	We'll always have The Voice. I heard that one is better.

05-11-2015, 06:51 PM	#6
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,525	Simon Cowell leaving is a factor but not the primary factor. Simon had no problem letting you know that although you sound OK you're nothing special. The judges now seem to pick people that they find personally, entertaining, but not necessarily the audience. Unless they're the ones who are going to be buying the artists' albums, it should be the latter. The Voice however, is a big problem. With its more evolved competition format, it makes Idol look pedestrian and boring, especially in the early audition rounds that, in the early seasons, were unpredictable and inspiring. Unsuccessful winners and contestants is another major factor. Last season may have been the final straw, even though this season's group is arguably much stronger. And the year before, they manipulated it for Candice Glover to win and for all the men to go out first, and she had no star power. What has really ruined the show is the combination of too many predictable "White Guy with Guitar" winners and a lack of success from both said winners and the few supremely talented also-rans of recent seasons -- Joshua Ledet, Jessica Sanchez, Haley Reinhart. Idol saturated the music industry with its talent, and the music industry no longer makes superstars out of Idol contestants, whether they deserve it or not. It wasn't really a competition show anymore, it was a self promoting, variety show, karaoke hour.

05-13-2015, 01:15 PM	#10
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,525	Why Idol failed: It became cheap with music and kept pretending it was still 2003 http://tvline.com/2015/05/12/america...on-15-reasons/ Another problem, says Michael Slezak, is that producers forgot what made the show so great: "I'm not saying Fox's reality granddaddy needed to amp up the sob stories, but the near total absence the last few seasons of contestant interviews — and any genuine revelations about their lives and loves — has made it vastly easier to detach from the Idol process. Think back to the glory days of Season 8 — when Kris Allen, Adam Lambert, Allison Iraheta and their cohorts garnered the lion's share of water-cooler chatter, capturing our hearts just as much as our ears."

05-14-2015, 08:20 PM	#11
UMFaninMD I love a mystery Senior Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,287	It should have ended years ago. And the fact that they didn't allow for older performers looking for their big break may have hurt them because these reality/competition shows tend to attract older viewers who may get tired of seeing young and pretty singers year after year. That might be why America's Got Talent does well, because they don't limit the age, appearance, or type of performer.

05-15-2015, 07:31 AM	#12
irehtman Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 15, 2013 Location: Montgomery County, Maryland Posts: 4,826	What caused the letdown of this show was the Season 2 finale, period!

05-15-2015, 08:59 AM	#13
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