Sitcoms Online - Main Page / Message Boards - Main Page / News Blog / Photo Galleries / DVD Reviews / Buy TV Shows on DVD and Blu-ray

View Today's Active Threads (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / View New Posts (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / Mark All Boards Read / Chit Chat Board

General TV News and Discussion / View Latest Threads in General TV and Sub-Forums

TV Series on DVD/Streaming News and Discussion / Fantasy TV Channels/Schedules and Fictional TV Networks / Classic TV Schedules Archive / TV Theme Songs / Theme Song Lyrics: Requests and Archive

Broadcast Networks / ABC / CBS / Fox / NBC / The CW / UPN (1995-2006) / The WB (1995-2006) / MyNetworkTV / TV Ratings

Cable TV/Digital Channels / Antenna TV / BET / Bounce TV / Canadian Channels (CHCH) / Catchy Comedy / CMT / Comedy Central / Cozi TV / Dabl / Disney Channel / FETV / Freeform / FX / FXX / Great American Family / Great Entertainment Television (Great.) (formerly Get (get.) and getTV) / Hallmark Channel / H&I (Heroes & Icons) / The Hub / IFC / INSP / ION Television / Laff / Lifetime / Logo TV / MeTV / Nick at Nite / Nickelodeon / TeenNick / Oxygen / Retro TV / Rewind TV / Start TV / TBS / TNN / Spike TV / TNT / TV Land / TV One / Up TV (UPtv) / USA Network (USA) / WGN America / YTA TV (formerly GoodLife and AmericanLife)


Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums  

Go Back   Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums > General TV News and Discussion
Register Community View Today's Active Threads (No CC/CC Only) Search Photo Galleries Calendar FAQ

Notices

SitcomsOnline.com News Blog Headlines Facebook X/Twitter Bluesky Threads Instagram YouTube RSS

Trailer for Wizards Beyond Waverly Place Finale Event; HGTV's Totally '90s House with '90s TV Stars
Fox Fall 2026 Premiere Dates; FX's The Shards Trailer
Netflix's Monopoly Coming in 2027; Prime Video Carrie Series Premieres This Fall
The Hawk Premieres Thursday on Netflix; Snoopy Presents: There's No Place Like Home, Snoopy Trailer
Sitcom Stars on Talk Shows; This Week in Sitcoms (Week of July 13, 2026)
SitcomsOnline Digest: Rob Reiner Receives Posthumous Emmy Nomination; Season Premiere Date Set for American Horror Story
Great Entertainment Television Acquires House; Remembering Louise Lasser of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman


New on DVD and Blu-ray

Happy's Place - Season One (Blu-ray) Two and a Half Men - The Complete Series (Blu-ray) Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD) I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (DVD) The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray)

11/04/25 - Happy's Place - Season One (Blu-ray) (DVD)
11/11/25 - Rick and Morty - Season 8 (Blu-ray) (DVD)
11/11/25 - SpongeBob SquarePants - The Complete Fifteenth Season (DVD)
11/11/25 - Two and a Half Men - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
12/02/25 - Tom and Jerry - The Golden Era Anthology (1940-1958) (Blu-ray) (DVD)
12/16/25 - Lippy the Lion and Hardy Har Har - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
12/16/25 - Wally Gator - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
01/20/26 - The Woody Woodpecker and Friends Golden Age Collection (Blu-ray)
01/27/26 - The New Fred and Barney Show - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
02/11/26 - Tom and Jerry - The Complete CinemaScope Collection (Blu-ray)
03/24/26 - Looney Tunes Collector's Vault - Volume 2 (Blu-ray)
04/11/26 - Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD)
04/21/26 - Famous Studios Champion Collection (Blu-ray) (DVD)
05/19/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
05/19/26 - Looney Tunes Cartoons - The Complete Series (Blu-ray) (DVD)
07/14/26 - The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray)
07/28/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (Blu-ray)

More Recent and Upcoming TV DVD and Blu-ray Releases / TV Shows on DVD, Blu-ray and Prime Video / DVD Reviews Archive


Search Sitcoms Online:



Donate

Please make a donation if you can help with Sitcoms Online's web hosting costs. Thanks for your support!

We receive a small commission on all DVDs, Blu-rays, CDs, Books, and any other items ordered through our Amazon.com links as an associate. Thanks for using our links for your online shopping!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-13-2014, 04:11 AM   #1
TMC
Member
Forum Idol
 
Join Date: Jan 09, 2001
Posts: 126,798
Default Which show(s) survived cast changes, etc. the best or worst?

And in the case of "the best", shows that still managed to keep up its quality?
TMC is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2014, 06:00 AM   #2
comedyfreak
Cheers!
Forum Fanatic
 
comedyfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 14, 2005
Location: Sunny California
Posts: 11,061
Default

Bewitched-The Darrin switches.
Cheers-Diane to Rebecca change and Coach to Woody change.
M*A*S*H
Night Court
__________________
www.facebook.com/comedyfreak
comedyfreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-13-2014, 10:36 PM   #3
Fontaine
Member
Frequent Poster
 
Join Date: Oct 16, 2013
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 160
Default

Have to partially disagree with that last opinion. The switch on Bewitched was a disaster. The change from Dick York to Dick Sargent started an immediate downward turn in the ratings, and I now find those episodes unwatchable. MASH probably had the best success of any show with major cast changes. The changes from Henry Blake to Sherman Potter and Frank Burns to Major Winchester took the show in other directions and weren't just more-of-the-same. Although BJ Hunnicutt was a change from Trapper John, I didn't care for that change, simply because Mike Farrell was probably the least-funny actor I've ever seen. I don't remember one genuine laugh I got from him, while Alan Alda kept me in stitches.

Another show that suffered from cast changes was Andy Griffith. When Gomer, Floyd and especially Barney left, their replacements were fair-to-awful. Warren and Emmett were horrible, and Goober could only be taken in small doses. Only Howard Sprague was a good addition.
Fontaine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2014, 04:48 AM   #4
comedyfreak
Cheers!
Forum Fanatic
 
comedyfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 14, 2005
Location: Sunny California
Posts: 11,061
Default

Bewitched still went on for three seasons with Dick Sargent, and The Andy Griffith Show continued and was successful or it would've ended way before it did.
comedyfreak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-14-2014, 08:30 PM   #5
zypherix
Member
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Aug 14, 2003
Posts: 734
Default

The Mary Tyler Moore Show was still good after the cast changes (Valerie Harper and Cloris Leachman for Georgia Engel and Betty White)
__________________
--<Atheism - a wiser choice>--
zypherix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2019, 08:55 AM   #6
AMackII
Member
Forum Star
 
Join Date: Oct 23, 2015
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 17,225
Default

Newhart - it remained great as it is due to the transition from Leslie & Kirk to Stephanie & Michael
AMackII is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2019, 11:44 AM   #7
cfr1970
Member
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
cfr1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 13, 2017
Location: Kissimmee, Florida
Posts: 3,368
Default

As far as Bewitched---audiences back in the 60's probably didn't warm to the new Darrin, and ratings suffered, but today when I watch the show, I like both Darrins equally and think both did a fine job in the role.
I really don't see any decline in quality of the show after Sargent came along (and he was after all, the first choice of Darrin when the show premiered). The only thing I don't like about the later Bewitched episodes are Elizabeth Montgomery's revealing outfits that were reflecting the emerging sexually open times of the late 60's. Some of her dresses looked like tops that were missing bottoms! You see it on I Dream of Jeannie also. It's just way too revealing even by today's standards IMO.

Back to cast changes that were successful. Without a doubt the addition of Mr. Furley on Three's Company after the Roper's left. I think Don Knotts was one of the best cast replacements in sitcom history.
The character of Mr. Furley was so funny that you didn't even miss the Roper's.
cfr1970 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2019, 06:33 PM   #8
Adamantium
TVAdam No More
Forum Veteran
 
Adamantium's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 11, 2002
Location: Springfield, Ohio
Posts: 7,839
Default

Although I prefer the early years, My Three Sons had a successful cast change. First William Frawley as Bub was replaced by William Demarest as uncle Charley during season five. Then, at the start of season six, Barry Livingston's Ernie replaced Tim Considine's Mike as a son in the Douglas household. And of course, all of the additional women joining the show in later seasons. Because the series was split into two packages for syndication, there seems to be a generation who grew up watching the Uncle Charley/Ernie years and had no clue Bub/Mike even existed. Thankfully, I'm not one of those people. I first watched My Three Sons on Nick at Nite.
Adamantium is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-24-2019, 11:32 PM   #9
Bloodsucking Bernie
Member
Occasional Poster
 
Bloodsucking Bernie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 30, 2019
Location: America
Posts: 19
Default

Night Court and Cheers are definitely the top two. In both case some of there most popular cast members joined later.
Worst Sabrina The Teenage Witch. Lost Harvey, Valerie The Aunts. All the new characters who joined after college were not good replacements.
Bloodsucking Bernie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2019, 11:40 PM   #10
favoriteshow
Member
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 08, 2018
Posts: 587
Default

Cheers is probably the one of the best examples. I've never watched M*A*S*H, though, but someone born a decade after me would probably say the same about Cheers.

With Three's Company, opinion is polarized with Suzanne Somers, and its hard to separate her removal and show's direction from then out of the other cast change, which was the landlord, from The Ropers to Mr. Furley change.

I liked the major season 2 cast changes on shows like Facts of Life, and A Different World, but didn't like the last season of ADW.

More recently, Parks and Recreation survived well after Paul Schneider left the after the second season. Adam Scott and Rob Lowe joined the show and replaced his role, and Retta got an increased role. I think the show improved overall, but it lost steam after season 5.

I prefer the earlier seasons of The Office, even before the cast additions of Ed Helms, and Ellie Kemper, although many liked those cast additions but just didn't like the very end of the show after Steve Carell left.
favoriteshow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2019, 01:41 AM   #11
cfr1970
Member
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
cfr1970's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 13, 2017
Location: Kissimmee, Florida
Posts: 3,368
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by favoriteshow View Post
With Three's Company, opinion is polarized with Suzanne Somers, and its hard to separate her removal and show's direction from then out of the other cast change, which was the landlord, from The Ropers to Mr. Furley change.
I disagree because Mr. Furley arrived a full season before Suzanne Somers was given the boot. So the direction had already began to shift well before she left and by that time, Mr. Furley was already an established character. So I don't think there should be any issue with separating his addition to her departure.

With Cindy & Terri however, I can agree with your assessment, because they came after she was gone.
cfr1970 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2019, 03:08 AM   #12
RetroGuy2000
Julie,Julie Anne,&Felice 4Ever
Forum Star
 
RetroGuy2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 27, 2013
Posts: 16,914
Default

I didn't like the Cast Purge after Season One on The Facts of Life, and missed Marisa Tomei and Lisa Bonet on A Different World. I also didn't care for the recast on Bewitched, or Hesseman leaving Head of the Class.

Cheers is, IMO, one of the few shows that successfully transitioned past one of the leads leaving the show. The Rebecca years were nearly as good as the Diane years.
RetroGuy2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2019, 07:24 PM   #13
dee2364
Member
Forum Regular
 
dee2364's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 20, 2019
Posts: 643
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by favoriteshow View Post
Cheers is probably the one of the best examples. I've never watched M*A*S*H, though, but someone born a decade after me would probably say the same about Cheers.

With Three's Company, opinion is polarized with Suzanne Somers, and its hard to separate her removal and show's direction from then out of the other cast change, which was the landlord, from The Ropers to Mr. Furley change.
No, I don't think opinion was ever polarized. I remember watching the show in first run, and I don't ever remember anyone feeling that Somers was a huge loss (or made a dent), because everyone watched for John Ritter, not anyone else.
dee2364 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2019, 10:09 AM   #14
TV Guy
Member
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 25, 2001
Location: Boston, MA, USA
Posts: 3,419
Default

Cheers, MASH, and Three’s Company continued to be successful in the ratings - and arguably creatively - after their cast changes. Bewitched survived but with reduced ratings, and creatively it was spent; I’m not sure that was entirely due to Dick Sargent. Andy Griffith continued for a few years without Don Knotts, but those episodes are rerun far less than the classic years of the show. The Facts of Life was successfully retooled for its second season after an unsuccessful first season, but I consider that a different scenario from the others, which were long-running successful series when they had to endure major cast changes.
TV Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2019, 05:30 PM   #15
Edward216
Member
Forum 4000 Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 18, 2014
Location: Central Time Zone
Posts: 4,648
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000 View Post
I didn't like the Cast Purge after Season One on The Facts of Life, and missed Marisa Tomei and Lisa Bonet on A Different World. I also didn't care for the recast on Bewitched, or Hesseman leaving Head of the Class.

Cheers is, IMO, one of the few shows that successfully transitioned past one of the leads leaving the show. The Rebecca years were nearly as good as the Diane years.
I'll have to disagree about The Facts Of Life. I think what they did dropping all of those characters after the first season was a good thing. There were simply too many characters for a half hour sitcom, people usually can only focus on and care about a handful of characters to be interested in a show like that.

Ed.
Edward216 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:40 AM.


Although the administrators and moderators of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards, nor vBulletin Solutions Inc. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. The owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.