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TMC · 10-06-2013, 03:58 AM

http://www.bonethefish.com/viewtopics.php?157

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All in the Family is an American situation comedy that was originally broadcast on the CBS television network from January 12, 1971 to April 8, 1979. In September 1979, the show was revamped, and given a new title, Archie Bunker's Place. This version of the sitcom lasted another four years, ending its run in 1983. Produced by Norman Lear and based on the British television series Till Death Us Do Part, the show broke ground in its depiction of issues previously considered unsuitable for U.S. network television comedy, such as racism, homosexuality, women's liberation, rape, miscarriage, breast cancer, menopause and impotence. The show ranked #1 in the yearly Nielsen ratings from 1971 to 1976. As of 2008, The Cosby Show has been the only other show to top the ratings for at least five consecutive seasons. TV Guide's 50 Greatest TV Shows of All Time ranked All in the Family as #4. Bravo also named the show's protagonist, Archie Bunker, TV's greatest character of all time.

Mr. Television · 10-06-2013, 11:18 AM

When Mike & Gloria moved the show was never the same. Still watchable though but their glory days were gone.

Dr. Thong · 10-06-2013, 01:04 PM

I agree. The show never "boned" for me, but I was glad when they changed the name to Archie Bunker's Place the following season, especially where Edith was on her way out and the only one left from the original show was Archie.

TheCars1986 · 10-15-2013, 10:10 PM

Never. Archie should still be on TV today.

TVFactFan · 10-16-2013, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck In The '70's

When Mike & Gloria moved the show was never the same. Still watchable though but their glory days were gone.

I think it jumped twice in one year when these two things happened

1. Jeffersons moved

2. Mike and Gloria moved out the house

treky · 10-17-2013, 03:14 AM

it definitely did when Mike & Gloria moved next door.

LittleRickyII · 10-18-2013, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by treky

it definitely did when Mike & Gloria moved next door.

Yes, when Mike & Gloria moved next door (first time), when Mike & Gloria moved to California (second time), when it became Archie Bunker's Place and Edith was gone from the show (third time).

Fontaine · 05-22-2014, 09:32 PM

The show was wonderful for the first four years. Then it was if somebody started letting the actors (especially Carroll O'Connor) direct themselves. Everybody started mugging for the camera, the timing was way off, and we started getting a LOT of unnecessary close-up shots.

treky · 05-22-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fontaine

The show was wonderful for the first four years. Then it was if somebody started letting the actors (especially Carroll O'Connor) direct themselves. Everybody started mugging for the camera, the timing was way off, and we started getting a LOT of unnecessary close-up shots.

I never noticed all that.

GameShowFan66 · 05-30-2014, 12:26 PM

Once the Stivics moved out of the house, the opportunity for conflict just wasn't there as often anymore. I tend to watch Seasons 1-4 and sometimes 5 the most. I have all 9 on DVD but seldom if ever watch the last 4 seasons.

Once the Stivics moved to California, that was really it for me. To me that should have been the end of "All in the Family" right there.

howilu · 05-31-2014, 12:07 PM

When Mike and Gloria moved to California, I felt the show lost so much because of the numerous battles between Archie and Mike. That was one key to its long, successful run and their departure changed the face of All in the Family as the focus became more on Archie, the businessman.

TMC · 07-13-2014, 01:39 AM

An interesting "real world" theory for why AITF possibly "boned the fish"/"jumped the shark"

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Once Jimmy Carter got elected, they tried a little role reversal, with Meathead defending the President and Archie railing against him.

Once they saw that that wouldn't fly (Stivic's character is a "smartest guy in the room" contrarian, not a defender of the establishment), they toned down the political bickering, and focused more on Archie buying the bar and Stephanie coming in.

Dr. Thong · 07-20-2014, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by howilu

When Mike and Gloria moved to California, I felt the show lost so much because of the numerous battles between Archie and Mike. That was one key to its long, successful run and their departure changed the face of All in the Family as the focus became more on Archie, the businessman.

And plus, it had been on the air for eight seasons at that point. Even if Mike and Gloria had stayed, the show would have had a creative downturn. There are only so many stories you can get out of a group of characters over time.

Had the show ended with the last episode being Mike and Gloria's farewell, I think AITF's legacy would have been stronger. The final season they did with Stephanie becoming part of the family was good, with some nice stories and moments with Archie & Edith, but it just wasn't the same anymore.

Johnny be good! · 10-25-2019, 02:15 PM

Never boned. All the seasons were great in their own way.

OH Nuts! · 10-26-2019, 10:43 AM

I’m with the “never”; I thought the show was utterly fantastic all the way through.

View Poll Results: Boned When...
Gloria & Meathead Leave for California	9	37.50%
Mike and Gloria move next door - Diluted conservative/liberal living together thing	1	4.17%
New kid in town - Stephanie, Archie's niece	4	16.67%
Never Boned	4	16.67%
Day 1	1	4.17%
Death - Edith	4	16.67%
New kid in town - Irene	0	0%
Sang the opening song clearly - The show just was not fresh anymore	1	4.17%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

10-06-2013, 11:18 AM	#2
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10-06-2013, 01:04 PM	#3
Dr. Thong a/k/a "ACK!" Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 10, 2001 Location: New Hampshire, USA Posts: 5,546	I agree. The show never "boned" for me, but I was glad when they changed the name to Archie Bunker's Place the following season, especially where Edith was on her way out and the only one left from the original show was Archie.
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10-17-2013, 03:14 AM	#6
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	it definitely did when Mike & Gloria moved next door.
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10-25-2019, 02:15 PM	#14
Johnny be good! Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2007 Location: Westland, Michigan Posts: 1,633	Never boned. All the seasons were great in their own way.
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10-15-2013, 10:10 PM	#4
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	Never. Archie should still be on TV today.

05-22-2014, 09:32 PM	#8
Fontaine Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 16, 2013 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 160	The show was wonderful for the first four years. Then it was if somebody started letting the actors (especially Carroll O'Connor) direct themselves. Everybody started mugging for the camera, the timing was way off, and we started getting a LOT of unnecessary close-up shots.

05-30-2014, 12:26 PM	#10
GameShowFan66 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 20, 2013 Location: Suburban Philadelphia, PA Posts: 78	Once the Stivics moved out of the house, the opportunity for conflict just wasn't there as often anymore. I tend to watch Seasons 1-4 and sometimes 5 the most. I have all 9 on DVD but seldom if ever watch the last 4 seasons. Once the Stivics moved to California, that was really it for me. To me that should have been the end of "All in the Family" right there.

05-31-2014, 12:07 PM	#11
howilu Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 20, 2003 Location: St. Louis Park, MN Posts: 1,959	When Mike and Gloria moved to California, I felt the show lost so much because of the numerous battles between Archie and Mike. That was one key to its long, successful run and their departure changed the face of All in the Family as the focus became more on Archie, the businessman.

10-26-2019, 10:43 AM	#15
OH Nuts! Member Forum King Join Date: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 133,383	I’m with the “never”; I thought the show was utterly fantastic all the way through.