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This is just a bad show! think about it! How many teens are named Cher? Carry cell phones? Or say Whatever all the time?
As if?
When the show changed networks it lost the original idea of the movie: comparing literature to modern situations (Jnae Austen's Emma to Beverly Hills) All that was left was cell phones and bad outfits.
"Clueless" jumped the shark when they aired that staple of the teenage sitcom, the "drunk driving is bad" episode. Once again, the kids cave in to peer pressure and have a few drinks. Once again, a car accident happens and the kids, having learned their lessons through minor injuries, vow Never To Drink Again. And, once again, one of the kids (not a major character, of course), dies even though "we saw him just this morning! He seemed fine!" There should be an embargo on importing this idea to any more teenage sitcoms... I don't even think they change the script from series to series anymore. Besides, if the kids didn't get it when it was done on Growing Pains/Saved By the Bell/wherever, they're not going to now.
I think it has always jumped but i still like it in a annoying way. Everyone knows Stacy Dash is way too old to play a high school student and so is the Hag Amber. Cher has gotten a lot better but their not even clueless anymore now there all goody Goody what happened to the stuck up brats? THAT'S WHAT THE SHOW WAS ABOUT RIGHT?
this show sucked from the beginning this is unrealistic bull s*** like there is anyone who gets every thing they want. this show sucks. how come good shows like american gothic get canceled after a season and this crap lasts 3 seasons no wonder upn is in last place who wants to watch crap like this.
Though the move to upn didn't totally slaughter the show...I gave it a mortal blow. From this time of suffering we see a new character for the father of Cher and bad take offs of the current horror movies. The last pulse lies in the poor boyfriend of Cher who dies (and of course isn't a regular). To add insult to injury in the drunk driving episode, n'sync or some other boy-band that won't be around in two months comes into the show to sing their newest single.
SHOULD NEVER BEEN MADE INTO A SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!IT WAS FINE AS A MOVIE ALISHA SILVERSTONE BEST FIT THAT ROLL AND IT WAS JUST A DUMB IDEA TOO MAKE IT INTO A SERIES.
When they first started it. The movie was good, but the tv show is just way lame.
This was a bad idea from the start. The one thing that struck me most, was when they played Ty's character like a whiny sap girl, totally opposite from the movie. Even Stacy Dash, a movie original couldn't save it.
The UPN version was better than the ABC version.On Abc it was plagued in the TGIF lineup and the charecters suddenly were all virgins and they had a special alcohol is bad episode and Cher could lose it to the older guy episode.On UPN the show was almost a continuation of the movie..On UPn we got a better understanding of DEons boyfriend.Also Deon is almost 40 in real life she looks damn good for her age
I don't think it ever jumped! See, when you've been poor most of your life, it's nice to escape to a lifestyle that you've never lived. "Clueless" inspired me to do better for myself & made me laugh. Can't wait for the reruns!
Come on! why did i watch this show? because it was a girl who had lots of money, was pretty, skinny, and lived in beverly hills, but STILL seemed to have more problems that i do. it shows that being dumb IS bad and that bad things do happen to dumb people. it was nice to see that even though she had all those great qualities, that brains DID mean something. but then what the hell happened?!?! how the hell do you go from living it up in LA to working all the time and living in a shack. who the hell is really that stupid? CHER. but then i guess it just got old, so they 'solved' a case. and why the hell did cher get all that money?! as i recall, she had a few "helpers" cher was a spoiled brat, but always seemed to come out on top with the use of a few credit cards.
OH my god!! Whose Idea was it for there to be clueless show? Now, I didn't see the movie, but from what I understand it was bad enough to warrant burning. WHen has a teenager eve4r interspersed every other word with 'like'? And what teenager has that much money, clothes and freedom. Cher never gets in trouble. She's too perfect.
A long time ago. Even when they STARTED to put this show on TGIF, it only lasted about 3 times. It jumped the shark after the first time.
The day after it aired when every one found out it sucked worse than a drunk girl
Clueless "Jumped the Shark" after the first season. I thought it was really stupid that someone actually wanted to make a television series out of one of the stupidest movies that I have ever seen. It was bad enough that there was a movie out about bubbly and ditzy teenagers from California, but now there is/was a television series about it too! Why? There was no point to it. Why waste all that money on making a stupid television. show when it could have been spent on something worth while or given to a charity.
Never! You guys are insane!!! This is another one of the many shows which you crank up the stereo and watch with the sound turned down. Rachel Blanchard is/was gorgeous, even though she was only like 16 when the show was made.??
when chers dad mel, was one actor before they stopped shooting over the summer, then in the fall, Wow! mel was now a new actor, or he had major weight loss and body reconstruction.
This show definitely jumped when Cher's dad went from Jerry Springer fat to Ab-Rocker thin. The only things that keep me watching are Ambers smart ass comments and the theme song!
I think this show jumped the shark when Aleshia Silverstone wasn’t Cher in the show, so in other words Day 1. Aleshia was great at the snobby, bratty, clueless role and she was made for it. She cracked me up in that movie. That Rachel Blanchard was so bland and dull compared to Aleshia. I admit I did watch the show until it ended, but there was nothing else on and I pretty much watched it for Donald Faison (Murray), he is sooo cute. Still even with Murray being so cute and Dee’s feistiness couldn’t save the show from the bad acting of Rachel Blanchard. I hate when movies are made into shows because it’s hardly ever the same characters that play in the movies, another example is Soul Food, at least with Clueless you had most of the cast from the movie, but with Soul Food none of the characters are from the movie and for me that just takes away the magic of the characters your used to from the movie (I know that sounds corny, but it’s true). Anyway, another thing that bothers me is the fact that Dee and Murray lost their virginity to each other in the movie, but on the UPN version close to the last episode they supposedly lost their virginity to each other for the first time then. Another thing, what was up with that Josh character he was out after the first season. I thought they would at least maybe try a romance between Josh and Cher since they did get together at the end of the movie, but they didn’t. I didn’t really like that Josh in the show anyway, he didn’t compare with the Josh from the movie. So to end my paragraph, Rachel Blanchard is not Aleshia Silverstone, enough said!
Where do you people get off saying Alicia Silverstone was better than Rachel Blanchard? R.B. was ideal for the part - she exuded all the qualities the show was meant to portray before she even existed! And she was stunning to look at - ten times better looking than A.S. What was really great about Clueless though was the escapism. I think someone has already mentioned this, but it was brilliant to be in that world where they had money, warm weather and just generally a really fun time, even if it was just for 1/2 an hour every night. The idiots that review TV shows completely missed the point when they laid into Clueless. Such a bunch of self-pronounced 'intellectuals' obviously would! It wasn't about what those pratts were looking for in a comedy - it was a show that could lift your spirits when you were really down, and anything that can do that is priceless!
The "Clueless" movie was cute! And I must admit, the tv show was cute too. Not clever. Not hysterical. But cute. You know, up there with "Teen Angel" and "You Wish". "Clueless" was brainless fun. Check your brain at the door and enjoy! I agree with another poster that Alicia Silverstone made a much better Cher. Rachel Blanchard, though beautiful and kind of Silverstone look alike, wasn't a good Cher. Ms Blanchard's Cher was nothing like Ms Silverstone's. Personally, if I were producing this sitcom I would have wanted Alicia to reprise her role. But knowing that Ms S. is way to busy making movies, this was never going to happen. And my whole point for writing? Clueless, the tv show; should have never happened. I think the producers were a little clueless too! PS - I think the Di and Amber characters are more the focus of this show than the Cher character.
Cher, Dee and the gang graduated and ended up at different colleges!
Did anyone notice that Cher, Di, and Amber were supposed to be around 15 or 16? The actors playing them are WAY older than that. I think Stacey Dash is about 35 years old! I know that actors who play teenagers on TV are generally a little older, but come on!
The movie wasn't very good to begin with, now the show is just a perfect picture of what's wrong with this country. If you watch this silly tripe, you are lead to believe that it is ok to be rude, superficial, and sexually immoral. Come on, this show has no redeeming value whatsoever. All the characters are below contempt for the way they act. If I weren't a Christian man, I would probably slap their faces for being so degrading to society!
How can live up to Dan Hedaya's Mel. They changed the whole personality of the character. I laughed my ass off at Mel in the movie. Also, no alicia silverstone didn't help.
For me, when the movie came out, I really liked it because it showed us those snobby rich stupid kids in all there glory. It was exactly like them in the way the film version was acted out and portrayed. But when they decided about a year later in 1996 to do a sitcom I was shocked. I had the feeling that from the get go it would tank. It was confirmed when Alicia Silverstone chose not the be on this so-called show. Having Rachel Blanchard take over as Cher was a total mistake. She's from Canada and she ain't no Californian. Infact, until clueless she had never left Toronto. She was only 15! She was chose because of her looks, but I find her ugly compared to Alicia, even though she has gained weight and fallen out of popularity. I did not like the way she acted as Cher. She didn't act snobbish and mean. She was miss goody tooshoes. I hated her version of cher. She always helped out the less fortunate. Come on. I also felt that Stacy Dash, Dion, should have been recasted. She stunk on this show. I thought she was somewhat good in the movie, but giving her more line and letting her expand on the role really killed her. She was a supporting cast member in the movie, but on the show she ran the whole thing. Look the person they chose for Cher was not the right chose and Dion should have be recasted. This is why ABC cancelled. UPN put it back on because they felt it was going to be better with some changes. No UPN it got worse. Every episode was bad, but the worst was the one where Paul Rudd returned. It sucked.
The episode about the drunk driving scare was so lame. It went from a scene where the drunk diver was ok in the hospital- then back to Ambular hiding from a "cute Dr.", because of her nose job or something stupid like that. Then back to the drunk driver dude dying (exit stage left), due to complications. The last scene had Dee, Amber, and Murray being goofy in the hospital. What was that whole last scene for? Was it supposed to bring in the comedy after a made-for-tv tragedy?
When Bill Kirchenbauer was the guest coach "Coach Bullock" COME ON!!!! Kirchenbauer played Coach Lubbock on Just the Ten of Us. LUBBOCK AND BULLOCK!!!! Too similar, AND Deborah Harmon was his wife on Clueless, as well as Just The Ten of Us!!!!!
Clueless, the TV series, jumped from day one - when it jumped so far away creatively from the very movie that inspired it.... The most noticeable stand-out of this series was not the acting or the writing, but the production values - or lack thereof. For some reason, the Clueless TV series - unlike the movie - opted to be an homage to the 70's, with a blinding array of mixed pastels everywhere. Never an earth-tone to be found. Conversely, the styles in the Clueless movie were late-80's inspired; creative, attractive, and appropriately unique to each character. The look of the TV series was homogenized, yet gawdy and distracting. But I guess that distraction might have been their goal.... Rachel Blanchard, or "Fake Cher" - what an awful facsimile of Alicia Silverstone. Rachel's Cher, unlike Alicia's, came off as passive and annoying; she was now a self-indulgent bore. What happened to the energy and drive that made Cher so likeable, in spite of her spoiled nature? All of that subtext was lost, and in Alicia's Cher, the subtext was where it was all at. The storylines were dumbed down for pre-teens and characters were sacrificed to fit the mold (for example, Alisa Donovan's Amber playing nice-nice with Cher and Dionne).... An intelligent, witty, and truly compelling comedy had transformed into one big joke. Sadly, Noggin has added Clueless to it's night-time line-up - exposing countless teens to this multi-colored mess. It's too bad this TV-mockery of the Clueless movie wasn't laid to rest once and for all.
From the start. The lead girl was terrible with her pained facial expressions trying to look like Alicia Silverstone.
Okay, I'll make it short and sweet. The movie was good. The show is lackluster. Murray and whats-his-face are two pussywhipped hyenas that seriously should get lives, they aren't even mildly amusing. Cher's a bore-- she's pretty brainless and u'd expect someone with her background to be a bit more...SNOBBY. So the show's not entirely realistic, some of the characters are cheezy, but there were funny moments and the music is always well-done. Not up there with my personal favs, but worth watching on a sick day.
When it moved from ABC to UPN. Then it got corny. When Clueless first came out I wanted to be just like Cher , be all rich and crap. Now i look at it , I don't want to be that much of a ditz. Alicia Silverstone was so good at the role, Rachel Blanchard couldn't even compare.
Clueless jump? Never. OK, so Rachel Blanchard couldn't quite match Alicia Silverstone in terms of playing the dumb blonde. But at least one could tell who was acting and who wasn't.
"Clueless" jumped the shark in my humble opinion, when it didn't seem to bother w/ following through w/ the main themes of the movie. Those themes were a group of spoiled teens trying to improve the lives of the people around them (whether it's playing match-maker or offering their friends make-overs) while being set against the backdrop of a semi-satire of 1990s pop culture. Instead on the TV spin-off, it seem to come across more like a somewhat glossier variation of "Saved By the Bell" (i.e. a collection of cheeseball and/or formulaic high school hijinks and a little moralising sprinkled here and there). The problem I think w/ Rachael Blanchard in the Alicia Silverstone part was that while affable, was otherwise pretty vanilla and passive in the lead. Elisa Donovan, who like Stacy Dash, Donald Faison, Wallace Shawn, Sean Holland (all though I could swear that his name was Lawrence in the movie as opposed to his actual first name on the show), Julie Brown, and Twink Caplan, reprised her supporting part from the movie, frequently proved to be much more charismatic than Blanchard, who was the assumed star. The first season that aired on ABC was minorly superior than the subsequently UPN seasons. What helped a lot in my mind, were the aford-mentioned Shawn & Caplan as the caring teachers, lending some well needed sensibility. Unfortunately, when UPN picked "Clueless" up after airing just one season in ABC's TGIF line-up, it seemed as if the quality of the program was based in part on which way the wind blew. For starters, Shawn & Caplen were gone and their classy presence was sorely missed over time. To make matters worse, the character of Cher's father was radically changed (this of course coincided w/ a switch of actors). In the movie, Cher's father, who was played by a scene stealing Dan Hedeya, was very crass, hard-boiled, and over-protective of his daughter. But when "Clueless" was relaunched on UPN Cher's father degenerated into being a very sweet, soft-spoken, understanding guy. As the show went on, it seemed like the producers were starting to ruin out of sharp ideas and instead resorted to the "gimmick of the week." For example, one week we would get a goofy guest shot by a B-list star (as opposed to the first season which gave us alumni from the movie like Paul Rudd, Brittney Murphy, and Breckin Meyer) like Tim Conway, Jennifer Elise Cox, who played Jan in the "Brady Bunch" movies, Burt "Robin" Ward, and the parents from "Just the Ten of Us." The next week, we would get served w/ special cross-overs by several characters from fellow UPN show "Moesha." And if it wasn't that, then we would be served w/ elaborate cliffhangers (one of which allowed the viewers to participate) like the haunted house episode and the one we're Cher has to move to Bakersfield. "Clueless" officially jumped, once they felt that it was it to resort to the tried but true "very special episode." First, it was one where the gang befriended a good student, who turned out to be pregnant. Next it was one where Cher started dating a model, who turned out to be a smoker. But the end all be all was the drunk driving episode ("Happy Days", "Growing Pains", and "Family Ties" are several prior examples that I'm aware of when it comes to sitcoms doing "very special episodes" about drinking & driving) in which 'N Sync guest starred. By the time the show was finished after the third season, "Clueless" unfortunately turned into a crusty, heavy-handed, and sometimes self-deceptive caricature of Amy Heckerling's creation.
Clueless was a better TV show than a movie, but the show jumped the shark when they had an episode about the smoking model and how everyone was going to help him kick the habit.
Well, this show was pretty good, I think, it had me watching... but they really shouldn't have made it into a show, especially since they couldn't get Alicia on... how can you have everyone from the movie put on the show EXCEPT for the chick playing the leading role? It just feels weird. This show also had a lot of "very special" episodes, but you can understand why when you think of the type of audience they had.
If they'd wanted to do a silly show they should have really gone for it like Sabrina the Teenage Witch and had some un-real fun. None of those Clueless characters seemed even remotely real even as a send-up of snobbish Beverly Hills HS kids or whatever. Either make it more realistic or make it definitely surreal. Rachel was cute in her own way and Alicia Silverstone was fine too. Can't understand all the previous hating about Rachel. Never sat through the whole film version but I suspect that it's no great loss. A poor small-screen copy of a minor feature film.
Firstly, I would just like to say that Clueless the movie is possibly my favorite comedy from the 90s-- it's a true no-brainer with tons of laughs and a stylish quality to it. Clueless the show, as someone else here pointed out, makes absolutely no effort (NONE) to pick up where the movie left off. I guess someone lost the memo saying that the story is about spoiled, helplessly self-absorbed rich girls getting themselves in and out of trouble at the mall/at school/over brunch/whatever. Clueless isn't about befriending the class geek, buying poor kids an entire new wardrobe, or helping some kid from Compton, or south central or whatever stay at Beverly Hills High when he's so obviously an idiot in the first place. Did I forget to mention there was a completely unnecessary episode on drunk driving? Um, I guess those 40 year old men in the script department don't realize that if a kid has the proclivity to drive drunk, he's not going to stop what he's doing, scratch his head, and say "Gee, those girls on "Clueness" said that driving drunk isn't a good idea. Maybe I should slow down." Um, yeah, OKAY. I much prefer the Clueless movie, which didn't rely on rationalizing/moralizing bulls*** to get its point across. As for Rachel Blanchard, she's not a good actress. She looks pitiful when she makes that pained face to look worried/scared/thoughtful. Does she really need a different boyfriend every episode? How does Dion, bitch queen of the century, get a long-term boytoy and Cher, the "perfect, sweet one", get nothing? Does this show bear NO resemblance to reality? Thankfully, it doesn't. Nor does it resemble the movie, which featured Cher as, you guessed it, a spoiled, cunning brat, not the Little Mermaid. Anyone who seriously watches this show, or waits for it to come on, NEEDS to open a book or something.
Due to one of the rules of Jump the Shark (Same Character, but played by a Different Actor), it jumped when Doug Sheehan became Mel Horowitz. Although I enjoyed him then.
This show was humorous! Who can forget Amber, the red-headed member of the group, who always had rude comments to make towards Cher and Dionne. She was hysterical. The only thing I could never understand is that if Amber was friends with Cher and Dionne and those two other guys, then why were they always making rude remarks towards Amber if she was their friend? She seemed to be more of somebody that just happened to hang around them that they tolerated as opposed to being a regular friend. Could someone enlighten me here? Was Amber really their friend, or just somebody that just hung around them to criticize them? Because personally I don't think friends normally refer to each other as annoying and obnoxious and then, criticize them, unless, of course, you're my friend, then I do, but that's just me. 
The episode "A test of Character" when Dion fails the drug test and becomes a pariah. The intentions of the episode was good, showing how drug tests tend to lie, but the ending was unsatisfactory. I felt the story should have been followed up. The writers of the show should have been fired or forced to write for the TV show "the Help."
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09-25-2013, 04:52 PM
Clueless Boned the Fish When...
