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Old 09-24-2013, 05:51 PM   #1
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The Joey Bishop Show is an American sitcom that aired on NBC for its first three seasons, premiering on September 20, 1961. The series then moved to CBS for its last season.
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Had "THE JOEY BISHOP SHOW" had been filmed in color during the 1964-'65 season, it would have been syndicated in the fall of 1965. Unfortunately, CBS didn't share NBC's efforts in color programming at the time; they didn't telecast ANY color programing from 1959 through '65. Joey's second and third seasons were filmed in color for NBC {and one of the few sitcoms telecast in color between 1962 and '64}. CBS, on the other hand, did NOT encourage color filming [with the exception of "THE LUCY SHOW", which was not telecast in color until the fall of 1965], and informed Joey that his series would not be filmed, or shown, in color when he moved to their network in the fall of '64. Eventually, they just "burned it off"- first on Sundays, then Tuesdays, through the end of the season, and cancelled it. Joey was SO pissed at being unable to syndicate his show - two black and white, and two color seasons, were NOT what local stations wanted to schedule- he later claimed all prints of it were "destroyed". When he got the chance to reintroduce it on cable in the late '80s, then he acknowledged the series DID exist.
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It's a shame. I just started watching some of the shows on RTV. It's the first time that I ever saw the show and it is pretty good.
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    This show jumped the shark when they switched from black and white to color episodes. In the B&W shows, the focus was on Joey's wife and his friends. In the color ones the focus switched to his television show. The earlier episodes were funny because they were about the wacky things the cast would get into. The ones about his television show were just lame. He also had a different writer/assistant in the color episodes who sucked in comparison to Corbett Monica who was his original one. The new guy was just annoying.
    I enjoyed what I've seen of this show on TV Land. I loved Joe Besser when he was a Stooge, so I really enjoyed seeing him on this show. I'm making this comment mostly to correct a misunderstanding of the previous poster. The Joey Bishop Show actually went from color back to black and white when it moved from NBC to CBS in 1964 for its last season, so the black and white eps that the poster liked more were actually the last ones of the series. The other guy that the poster says he didn't like was probably Joey's agent Freddie, who was played by Guy Marks. Guy Marks looked very different from Corbett Monica because he was a lot taller than Joey, while Corbett was shorter. Guy left the show in the middle of the second season, the first season that appeared on TV Land. The first season, which was on NBC in black and white, included Marlo Thomas and Joe Flynn in the cast and didn't have Abby Dalton, who was still appearing on Hennessey until 1962.
    This week, on a very special Joey Bishop show, I don't think they ever had to say this, but if they did, wasn't his second banana the one and only Regis? I remember Reg having something to do with this, as Joey's MC or some kind of Rat Packer in training!
    Joey would make such a fuss talking about "the baby, the baby" when his wife was pregnant and after it was born. Yet, both Joey and his wife never had any real interaction with the baby, leaving him in the hands of fulltime, uniformed nurse Mary Treen and handyman Joe Besser. There were actually two series called "The Joey Bishop Show." The sitcom cited here, and the 1967 late-night talk show that featured Regis in the Ed McMahon second banana role.
    The best show of the whole series was when Joey and Danny Thomas imagined what their infant sons would be like as seventeen-year-olds and the actors put on pompadour wigs, jeans and bowling shirts and did 'teenaged' things such as taking off their loafers and climbing on furniture in their socks. What was unintentionally hilarious about this episode was that it was produced in 1963 so the 'future' was *supposed* to be *1980*!! Yet, they imagined that teenagers would STILL be one step away from being beatniks and wild about Elvis! Funny, they didn't think pop culture would change ONE iota in seventeen years- yet it HAD changed a great deal from the PREVIOUS seventeen years. What did the teens in 1963 have in common with those in 1946? Nada!! The worst show was when they whooped it up laughing about the troubled writer Elia Kazan in which they played up his very serious (and ultimately fatal) neuroses and pill-taking for laughs! Tasteless!
    Oops! I just looked at my entry about the pill-taking Real Life playwright staying over at their house and realize that the man's name was *Oscar Levant* NOT Elia Kazan! Sorry!
    I don't remember the sitcom, but want to comment on the talk show, which I watched as a kid sometimes. It probably was never going to succeed because Joey lacked the warmth and sincerity of Carson. But the big event in the history of the show was when Regis walked off for a few days. He was miffed about his role, I think, or was it Joey making fun of his lack of talent? I think I saw the show where he came back, and they made jokes about the whole thing. Can anyone shed more light on this episode? I'm sure it was the inspiration for a couple of times when Hank Kingsley quit or almost quit the Larry Sanders Show.
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    This show jumped the shark when they switched from black and white to color episodes. In the B&W shows, the focus was on Joey's wife and his friends. In the color ones the focus switched to his television show. The earlier episodes were funny because they were about the wacky things the cast would get into. The ones about his television show were just lame. He also had a different writer/assistant in the color episodes who sucked in comparison to Corbett Monica who was his original one. The new guy was just annoying.
    I enjoyed what I've seen of this show on TV Land. I loved Joe Besser when he was a Stooge, so I really enjoyed seeing him on this show. I'm making this comment mostly to correct a misunderstanding of the previous poster. The Joey Bishop Show actually went from color back to black and white when it moved from NBC to CBS in 1964 for its last season, so the black and white eps that the poster liked more were actually the last ones of the series. The other guy that the poster says he didn't like was probably Joey's agent Freddie, who was played by Guy Marks. Guy Marks looked very different from Corbett Monica because he was a lot taller than Joey, while Corbett was shorter. Guy left the show in the middle of the second season, the first season that appeared on TV Land. The first season, which was on NBC in black and white, included Marlo Thomas and Joe Flynn in the cast and didn't have Abby Dalton, who was still appearing on Hennessey until 1962.
    This week, on a very special Joey Bishop show, I don't think they ever had to say this, but if they did, wasn't his second banana the one and only Regis? I remember Reg having something to do with this, as Joey's MC or some kind of Rat Packer in training!
    Joey would make such a fuss talking about "the baby, the baby" when his wife was pregnant and after it was born. Yet, both Joey and his wife never had any real interaction with the baby, leaving him in the hands of fulltime, uniformed nurse Mary Treen and handyman Joe Besser. There were actually two series called "The Joey Bishop Show." The sitcom cited here, and the 1967 late-night talk show that featured Regis in the Ed McMahon second banana role.
    The best show of the whole series was when Joey and Danny Thomas imagined what their infant sons would be like as seventeen-year-olds and the actors put on pompadour wigs, jeans and bowling shirts and did 'teenaged' things such as taking off their loafers and climbing on furniture in their socks. What was unintentionally hilarious about this episode was that it was produced in 1963 so the 'future' was *supposed* to be *1980*!! Yet, they imagined that teenagers would STILL be one step away from being beatniks and wild about Elvis! Funny, they didn't think pop culture would change ONE iota in seventeen years- yet it HAD changed a great deal from the PREVIOUS seventeen years. What did the teens in 1963 have in common with those in 1946? Nada!! The worst show was when they whooped it up laughing about the troubled writer Elia Kazan in which they played up his very serious (and ultimately fatal) neuroses and pill-taking for laughs! Tasteless!
    Oops! I just looked at my entry about the pill-taking Real Life playwright staying over at their house and realize that the man's name was *Oscar Levant* NOT Elia Kazan! Sorry!
    I don't remember the sitcom, but want to comment on the talk show, which I watched as a kid sometimes. It probably was never going to succeed because Joey lacked the warmth and sincerity of Carson. But the big event in the history of the show was when Regis walked off for a few days. He was miffed about his role, I think, or was it Joey making fun of his lack of talent? I think I saw the show where he came back, and they made jokes about the whole thing. Can anyone shed more light on this episode? I'm sure it was the inspiration for a couple of times when Hank Kingsley quit or almost quit the Larry Sanders Show.
Thanks so much for finding that link. I guess TV Guide didn't destroy it after all. I'm pretty sure I was the one who added the second comment above about how the show actually went from color back to B&W. I'm happy to see my comments (and those of 100s of others) still exist somewhere.
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