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http://whatculture.com/film/star-tre...underrated.php
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Read more at http://whatculture.com/film/star-tre...ZdPqU6T0cel.99 |
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It could have been better. I'm glad that The Wrath of Khan put the series into warp speed. It had a great plot and a villian worth remembering.
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It feels more like an extended Star Trek episode than a movie, but about the one thing that saves this from becoming dull is the fantastic score by Jerry Goldsmith, hell I watch it just to hear the music.
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I found an excellent star trek site the other day (Also VBB (3.8.6))
www.trekbbs.com/index.php?styleid=2 I registered straight away
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I do love the score to this movie. Especially the opening theme, which eventually went to The Next Generation series. It get's me that many people think that the original cast movies ripped this off from TNG. lol. Nice link, BTW Dude. Thanks for posting.
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More than welcome my friend
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TMP would be fine with a good edit. It's clearly a one hour TV episode stretched to movie length. TMP aims to be sweeping and epic, and is instead just tedious. The reveal of the seemingly powerful V'ger being in fact a child (insert your own Stephen Collins joke here ) was not only old hat even for TOS at that point, but also still feels like it covers less interesting ground than either the Changeling or Ultimate Computer did in the original show. The use of Ilia as a representation of V'Ger has potential but its limited by how little we know about her and that the relationship between her and Decker is hardly the most engaging stuff by itself.Kirk's big character arc of his obsession with captaining the Enterprise in spite of Decker's obvious competence is resolved... when Will merges with V'Ger and thus is no longer in the Admiral's way. Hardly the stuff of epic character journeys. In the grand scheme of things its only Spock's realization of the value of emotion which amounts to anything to the point where if one jumped from the last episode of TOS to Wrath of Khan, Spock's development is the only real story of value they'd miss in terms of character work. And as far as the atmospheric effects, its impressive in a vacuum, but there's a difference between its use in 2001 and TMP. Kubrick's film deliberately painted a picture of space as simultaneously cold, wondrous, monotonous, claustrophobic, mysterious, and neverending. The long almost boring shots of ships and stations in space were deliberate to demonstrate both the tedious normality of contemporary space travel and to contrast with the fast and inexplicable nature of the monolith. Same with how the cold logic of Hal is illustrated via the bleak and sterile environments of various parts of the Discovery. 2001 often feels pretentious, but its pretensions at least felt like it had a point other than beating viewers over the head about how deep it was. TOS's human environments were distinctly warm and comfortable in its feel, with all the occasional hits pf garishness one would expect from a late 60s sci fi TV series. TMP for all its colorful wonder in its external set pieces, its beset in beige and grays for its character scenes. It reduces the organic energy of discovery which so often ran through the series to some wide eyed reactions of the crew to V'Ger, creating a glorified music video of special effects, people reacting to the special effects, and then back and forth. Just my opinion, but it feels like TOS without the heart and 2001 without the brain. |
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Thank you for that!!
I love the first movie..... I HAVE IT BEAUTIFUL ANALOG and I love it
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