Broadcast networks tell FCC: Lift indecency rules becomes our viewership has declined - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TMC · 06-21-2013, 01:09 AM

http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/broa...rules-archaic/

The four major networks said in a filing, "Americans today, including children, spend more time engaged with non-broadcast channels delivered by cable and satellite television, the Internet, video games and other media than they do with broadcast media."
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/tv-tattle#vZ6ExEfRibYP6sdZ.99

EmoJoe · 06-21-2013, 04:58 AM

I doubt anything major happens until broadcast's numbers actually equal cable's, which is probably going to happen pretty soon but isn't happening yet.

James28 · 06-25-2013, 03:41 PM

Does this mean we have to bring TV-MA rated programs into the broadcast networks? I'm not for this move.

tlc38tlc38 · 06-25-2013, 04:34 PM

I personally think the networks get away with too much as it is ....and they're wanting to do more?!!? People's minds are way too far in the gutter to appreciate classy, good clean humor.

Lets all get drunk, snort a few lines, and have an orgy and film it....RAITINGS GOLD!!!

tiredmike59 · 06-25-2013, 04:45 PM

They're not content with airing CRAP
Now they want to air uncensored CRAP.

yankeesrj12 · 06-25-2013, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlc38tlc38

I personally think the networks get away with too much as it is ....and they're wanting to do more?!!? People's minds are way too far in the gutter to appreciate classy, good clean humor.

Lets all get drunk, snort a few lines, and have an orgy and film it....RAITINGS GOLD!!!

Broadcast networks are very limited to what they can do. I'd love for them to have the free-range that cable networks have right now.

Mario500 · 06-25-2013, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James28

Does this mean we have to bring TV-MA rated programs into the broadcast networks? I'm not for this move.

No, the broadcasters would be free to broadcast more material rated "TV-MA" if they choose to do so.

DroopyVids · 06-25-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiredmike59

They're not content with airing CRAP
Now they want to air uncensored CRAP.

Amen to that.

DroopyVids

James28 · 07-02-2013, 05:58 PM

Won't the broadcast networks lose advertisers if they broadcast any TV-MA rated shows?

EmoJoe · 07-02-2013, 06:07 PM

The idea is that there's not a big distinction between the amount of people who watch broadcast TV and the amount of people who watch cable TV anymore - therefore, if cable can freely air "TV-MA" shows, broadcast should be able to as well. (Although I'd say it goes beyond arbitrary ratings distinctions).

James28 · 07-02-2013, 06:19 PM

I can accept TV-PG and TV-14 rated shows in broadcast television, but not TV-MA. We don't need to have any TV-MA rated shows on the broadcast networks. Period.

DroopyVids · 07-02-2013, 06:47 PM

During the 1970s, there were a few TV-14 or PG-13 programs. Something happened and they were cancelled even though they were quite popular. It seems that an occasional butt crack shot or film clip of an WWII Figher Gun Camera shot of another fighter being hit or a bomber going up in flames was just too much for the "Public's" gentle ears and eyes. But it became okay to have an occasional curse word which would have gotten a show cancelled in the 70s and before in a heart beat. The Violence was normally suggested. Today, it's quite graphic. There are some programs I can't watch due to the graphic nature. I've seen real burned and wounded bodies and the day that it stops offending me is never going to happen. I won't anesthetize myself over this ever.

I enjoy a little but not like it is. I don't enjoy foul language. I don't enjoy blood and guts spread all over my screen. What I do enjoy is good writing, acting and interesting programming. Something that is quite lacking today.

DroopyVids

Tubehead · 07-02-2013, 11:04 PM

I THINK PARENT SHOULD MAKE SURE CEHCK BEFORE KIDS WATCH THE SHOW I WENT TO WORLD WAR Z COUPLE WEEKS AGO I SEEN 4 TO 10 YEARS IN THE MOVIE PLUSE IF THEIR TRYING TO GET RIDE OF STUFF GET RID OF ALIUT SWIM IN CARTOON NETOWRK THAT MOST DRITY CARTOONS I FEEL SORRY FOR KIDS IF I HAD KID I WOULDN'T LET THEM WATCH SPOUB BOB I THINK ITS KIND GROSS CARTOON

DroopyVids · 07-02-2013, 11:33 PM

The problem is, there are parents and then there are big people that kids live with. Those big people rely on all the rest of us to raise their children. Since the end of the 60s, more and more parents have had to have both parents work and even have multiple jobs each. Mom isn't there in the daytime and Dad isn't there in the evenings. Both are dog tired and find it difficult to attend to this. Instead, we need to go after the advertisers who seem to think these types of shows are not approved with out pocketbooks.

DroopyVids

EmoJoe · 07-02-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DroopyVids

During the 1970s, there were a few TV-14 or PG-13 programs. Something happened and they were cancelled even though they were quite popular. It seems that an occasional butt crack shot or film clip of an WWII Figher Gun Camera shot of another fighter being hit or a bomber going up in flames was just too much for the "Public's" gentle ears and eyes. But it became okay to have an occasional curse word which would have gotten a show cancelled in the 70s and before in a heart beat. The Violence was normally suggested. Today, it's quite graphic. There are some programs I can't watch due to the graphic nature. I've seen real burned and wounded bodies and the day that it stops offending me is never going to happen. I won't anesthetize myself over this ever.

I enjoy a little but not like it is. I don't enjoy foul language. I don't enjoy blood and guts spread all over my screen. What I do enjoy is good writing, acting and interesting programming. Something that is quite lacking today.

DroopyVids

There weren't any TV content ratings before 1996.

Network TV is really pretty tame, although it seems more violence is allowed to slip through the cracks than sex/language.

06-21-2013, 01:09 AM	#1
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 125,403	Broadcast networks tell FCC: Lift indecency rules becomes our viewership has declined http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/broa...rules-archaic/ The four major networks said in a filing, "Americans today, including children, spend more time engaged with non-broadcast channels delivered by cable and satellite television, the Internet, video games and other media than they do with broadcast media." Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/tv-tattle#vZ6ExEfRibYP6sdZ.99

06-21-2013, 04:58 AM	#2
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06-25-2013, 03:41 PM	#3
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06-25-2013, 04:34 PM	#4
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07-02-2013, 11:04 PM	#13
Tubehead Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 12, 2007 Location: chattanooga.tn Posts: 5,139	TV NOT FOR KIDS I THINK PARENT SHOULD MAKE SURE CEHCK BEFORE KIDS WATCH THE SHOW I WENT TO WORLD WAR Z COUPLE WEEKS AGO I SEEN 4 TO 10 YEARS IN THE MOVIE PLUSE IF THEIR TRYING TO GET RIDE OF STUFF GET RID OF ALIUT SWIM IN CARTOON NETOWRK THAT MOST DRITY CARTOONS I FEEL SORRY FOR KIDS IF I HAD KID I WOULDN'T LET THEM WATCH SPOUB BOB I THINK ITS KIND GROSS CARTOON

06-25-2013, 04:45 PM	#5
tiredmike59 Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 05, 2010 Location: OUTLAW STATE {MO} Posts: 1,868	They're not content with airing CRAP Now they want to air uncensored CRAP.

07-02-2013, 05:58 PM	#9
James28 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2007 Posts: 3,976	Won't the broadcast networks lose advertisers if they broadcast any TV-MA rated shows?

07-02-2013, 06:07 PM	#10
EmoJoe Cool cool cool Forum Addict Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 71,478	The idea is that there's not a big distinction between the amount of people who watch broadcast TV and the amount of people who watch cable TV anymore - therefore, if cable can freely air "TV-MA" shows, broadcast should be able to as well. (Although I'd say it goes beyond arbitrary ratings distinctions).

07-02-2013, 06:19 PM	#11
James28 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 14, 2007 Posts: 3,976	I can accept TV-PG and TV-14 rated shows in broadcast television, but not TV-MA. We don't need to have any TV-MA rated shows on the broadcast networks. Period.

07-02-2013, 06:47 PM	#12
DroopyVids Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 82	During the 1970s, there were a few TV-14 or PG-13 programs. Something happened and they were cancelled even though they were quite popular. It seems that an occasional butt crack shot or film clip of an WWII Figher Gun Camera shot of another fighter being hit or a bomber going up in flames was just too much for the "Public's" gentle ears and eyes. But it became okay to have an occasional curse word which would have gotten a show cancelled in the 70s and before in a heart beat. The Violence was normally suggested. Today, it's quite graphic. There are some programs I can't watch due to the graphic nature. I've seen real burned and wounded bodies and the day that it stops offending me is never going to happen. I won't anesthetize myself over this ever. I enjoy a little but not like it is. I don't enjoy foul language. I don't enjoy blood and guts spread all over my screen. What I do enjoy is good writing, acting and interesting programming. Something that is quite lacking today. DroopyVids

07-02-2013, 11:33 PM	#14
DroopyVids Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 82	The problem is, there are parents and then there are big people that kids live with. Those big people rely on all the rest of us to raise their children. Since the end of the 60s, more and more parents have had to have both parents work and even have multiple jobs each. Mom isn't there in the daytime and Dad isn't there in the evenings. Both are dog tired and find it difficult to attend to this. Instead, we need to go after the advertisers who seem to think these types of shows are not approved with out pocketbooks. DroopyVids