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TMC · 04-19-2012, 04:21 AM

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...of-risk-taking

It's hard to convey what a difference Fox made when it launched 25 years ago this month in a TV world with just three networks. PLUS: 25 defining moments of Fox's 25 years.

comedyfreak · 04-19-2012, 05:54 AM

They forgot Married With Children most of the other shows went one, two or three seasons at most.

70s show watcher · 04-19-2012, 07:09 AM

where was that 70s show?

yankeesrj12 · 04-19-2012, 08:42 AM

That is an awful list.

factsoflife · 04-22-2012, 02:35 AM

That list is awful. No mention of Melrose Place, Party of Five, Ally McBeal, MadTV, In Living Color, Boston Public, 21 Jump Street or New York undercover?

mets82 · 04-22-2012, 11:51 AM

Undeclared? Ben Stiller Show? Firefly? Really? Married with Children, Beverly Hills 90210, That 70s Show, Melrose Place, not on the list? Are you kidding me?

Jude The Obscure · 04-24-2012, 08:39 PM

I like how Fox even ignored the fact that it started as FBC and its first show was The Late Show starring Joan Rivers.

noveel · 04-25-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jude The Obscure

I like how Fox even ignored the fact that it started as FBC and its first show was The Late Show starring Joan Rivers.

they also ignored terrific shows like Titus, Undeclared, Action, That 80's Show, Wonderfalls, Fastlane, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Skin, Girls Club, Cracking Up, The Pitts, Firefly, Get Real, FreakyLinks, Wanda at Large, Costello, The Lone Gunmen, A Minute With Stan Hooper, Normal, Ohio, Pasadena, Harsh Realm, Keen Eddie, The $treet, American Embassy, Cedric The Entertainer, The Tick, Luis and Greg the Bunny

All cancelled to make room for Family Guy

factsoflife · 04-25-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by noveel

they also ignored terrific shows like Titus, Undeclared, Action, That 80's Show, Wonderfalls, Fastlane, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Skin, Girls Club, Cracking Up, The Pitts, Firefly, Get Real, FreakyLinks, Wanda at Large, Costello, The Lone Gunmen, A Minute With Stan Hooper, Normal, Ohio, Pasadena, Harsh Realm, Keen Eddie, The $treet, American Embassy, Cedric The Entertainer, The Tick, Luis and Greg the Bunny

All cancelled to make room for Family Guy

Oh god. I hated American Embassy. They cancelled my Ally McBeal for that piece of crap.

James · 04-25-2012, 01:08 PM

TMC · 08-26-2014, 04:54 AM

The following stations were Fox affiliates at the time.

New York: WNYW-TV 5 (O&O)
Los Angeles: KTTV 11 (O&O)
Chicago: WFLD-TV 32 (O&O)
Philadelphia: WTAF-TV 29
San Francisco: KTVU-TV 2
Boston: WFXT-TV 25 (O&O)
Dallas: KDAF-TV 33 (O&O)
Washington, DC: WTTG-TV 5 (O&O)
Atlanta: WATL-TV 36
Detroit: WKBD-TV 50
Houston: KRIV-TV 26 (O&O)
Seattle: KCPQ-TV 13
Minneapolis: KMSP-TV 9
Tampa: WTOG-TV 44
Miami: WCIX-TV 6
Phoenix: KNXV-TV 15
Cleveland: WOIO-TV 19
Denver: KDVR-TV 31
Sacramento: KTXL-TV 40
Orlando: WOFL-TV 35
Pittsburgh: WPGH-TV 53
St. Louis: KDNL-TV 30
Portland, OR: KPTV 12
Baltimore: WBFF-TV 45
Indianapolis: WXIN-TV 59
San Diego: XETV 6
Charlotte: WCCB-TV 18
Hartford: WTIC-TV 61
Raleigh: WLFL-TV 22
Nashville: WCAY-TV 30
Kansas City: KSHB-TV 41
Cincinnati: WXIX-TV 19
Milwaukee: WCGV-TV 24
Columbus, OH: WTTE-TV 28
Salt Lake City: KSTU-TV 13
Greenville, SC: WAXA-TV 40
San Antonio: KRRT-TV 35
Grand Rapids: WXMI-TV 17
Birmingham: WDBB-TV 17 & WNAL-TV 44
West Palm Beach: WFLX-TV 29
Memphis: WMKW-TV 30
Norfolk: WTVZ-TV 33
New Orleans: WNOL-TV 38
Greensboro: WNRW-TV 45
Oklahoma City; KAUT-TV 43
Harrisburg: WPMT-TV 43
Buffalo: WUTV 29
Albuquerque: KGSW-TV 14
Providence: WNAC-TV 64
Louisville: WDRB-TV 41
Las Vegas: KVVU-TV 5
Fresno: KMPH-TV 26
Jacksonville: WAWS-TV 30
Austin, TX: KBVO-TV 42
Wilkes-Barre: WOLF-TV 38
Albany, NY: WXXA-TV 23
Tulsa: KOKI-TV 23
Richmond: WRLH-TV 35
Knoxville: WKCH-TV 43
Dayton: WRGT-TV 45
Mobile: WPMI-TV 15
Lexington: WDKY-TV 56
Charleston, WV: WVAH-TV 11
Flint/Saginaw: WSMH-TV 66
Roanoke: WJPR-TV 21
Toledo: WUPW-TV 36
Honolulu: KHNL-TV 13
Springfield, MO: KDEB-TV 27
Syracuse: WSYT-TV 68
Fort Myers: WFTX-TV 36
Madison: WMSN-TV 47
Amarillo: KCIT-TV 14
Boise: KTRV-TV 12
Chattanooga: WDSI-TV 61
Des Moines: KDSM-TV 17
Fort Wayne: WFFT-TV 55
Little Rock: KJTM-TV 38
Montgomery: WCOV-TV 20
Reno: KAME-TV 21
Rochester: WUHF-TV 31
Tucson: KMSB-TV 11
Wichita: KSAS-TV 24

myowndrownedworld · 08-26-2014, 09:12 AM

Married with children pretty much launched Fox but throughout the run, they treated it like crap, cancelled it without no proper series finale and rarely talk about it in all the years it's been off the air. The Bundy's were one of, if not, the first dysfunctional family on television. A few years before The Simpsons, Family Guy, Malcolm in the middle and other shows that centre on dysfunctional families.

vampirevsrobot · 08-26-2014, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TMC

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...of-risk-taking

It's hard to convey what a difference Fox made when it launched 25 years ago this month in a TV world with just three networks. PLUS: 25 defining moments of Fox's 25 years.

'Ugh..the article is typical asinine material written by someone before FOX (or FBC or how I hate Rupert Murdoch) ...

You can pick your piece/generation.

FOX was never really groundbreaking, let's be real here outside of dumb online articles!

FOX never did anything ABC never did (-minus cancellation).
FOX never did anything CBS never did.(-minus cancellation)
FOX never did anything NBC never did.(-minus cancellation)

...The only thing FOX really gave us truly in their early years were Joan Rivers (a first, a late night female talk show host) and an adult themed animated series outside of the '60's.

The rest of it's history resides in fiction hidden in some dusty bookshelves.

The WB was actually more groundbreaking...

But we're all silenced, because Internet is king, right?

Unfortunately, EW (from the '90s) and other single failed media (blog) outlets will make you want to believe that FOX matters.

That's the magic of nostalgia!

...It actually doesn't matter.

Sadly in truth, FOX still lingers behind.

We've been saying for years now already, American Idol sucks!

KEEP IT UP!

American Idol sank one season and when it did the entire FOX lineup collapsed the next

How ironic?

...REALITY TV DOES NOT BELONG ON NETWORK TV, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ACTUAL REALITY...

04-19-2012, 04:21 AM	#1
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,010	How the Fox network shook up TV in 1987 http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...of-risk-taking It's hard to convey what a difference Fox made when it launched 25 years ago this month in a TV world with just three networks. PLUS: 25 defining moments of Fox's 25 years.
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04-19-2012, 05:54 AM	#2
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04-22-2012, 02:35 AM	#5
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04-22-2012, 11:51 AM	#6
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08-26-2014, 04:54 AM	#11
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,010	Do you remember Fox's prime-time launch in 1987? The following stations were Fox affiliates at the time. New York: WNYW-TV 5 (O&O) Los Angeles: KTTV 11 (O&O) Chicago: WFLD-TV 32 (O&O) Philadelphia: WTAF-TV 29 San Francisco: KTVU-TV 2 Boston: WFXT-TV 25 (O&O) Dallas: KDAF-TV 33 (O&O) Washington, DC: WTTG-TV 5 (O&O) Atlanta: WATL-TV 36 Detroit: WKBD-TV 50 Houston: KRIV-TV 26 (O&O) Seattle: KCPQ-TV 13 Minneapolis: KMSP-TV 9 Tampa: WTOG-TV 44 Miami: WCIX-TV 6 Phoenix: KNXV-TV 15 Cleveland: WOIO-TV 19 Denver: KDVR-TV 31 Sacramento: KTXL-TV 40 Orlando: WOFL-TV 35 Pittsburgh: WPGH-TV 53 St. Louis: KDNL-TV 30 Portland, OR: KPTV 12 Baltimore: WBFF-TV 45 Indianapolis: WXIN-TV 59 San Diego: XETV 6 Charlotte: WCCB-TV 18 Hartford: WTIC-TV 61 Raleigh: WLFL-TV 22 Nashville: WCAY-TV 30 Kansas City: KSHB-TV 41 Cincinnati: WXIX-TV 19 Milwaukee: WCGV-TV 24 Columbus, OH: WTTE-TV 28 Salt Lake City: KSTU-TV 13 Greenville, SC: WAXA-TV 40 San Antonio: KRRT-TV 35 Grand Rapids: WXMI-TV 17 Birmingham: WDBB-TV 17 & WNAL-TV 44 West Palm Beach: WFLX-TV 29 Memphis: WMKW-TV 30 Norfolk: WTVZ-TV 33 New Orleans: WNOL-TV 38 Greensboro: WNRW-TV 45 Oklahoma City; KAUT-TV 43 Harrisburg: WPMT-TV 43 Buffalo: WUTV 29 Albuquerque: KGSW-TV 14 Providence: WNAC-TV 64 Louisville: WDRB-TV 41 Las Vegas: KVVU-TV 5 Fresno: KMPH-TV 26 Jacksonville: WAWS-TV 30 Austin, TX: KBVO-TV 42 Wilkes-Barre: WOLF-TV 38 Albany, NY: WXXA-TV 23 Tulsa: KOKI-TV 23 Richmond: WRLH-TV 35 Knoxville: WKCH-TV 43 Dayton: WRGT-TV 45 Mobile: WPMI-TV 15 Lexington: WDKY-TV 56 Charleston, WV: WVAH-TV 11 Flint/Saginaw: WSMH-TV 66 Roanoke: WJPR-TV 21 Toledo: WUPW-TV 36 Honolulu: KHNL-TV 13 Springfield, MO: KDEB-TV 27 Syracuse: WSYT-TV 68 Fort Myers: WFTX-TV 36 Madison: WMSN-TV 47 Amarillo: KCIT-TV 14 Boise: KTRV-TV 12 Chattanooga: WDSI-TV 61 Des Moines: KDSM-TV 17 Fort Wayne: WFFT-TV 55 Little Rock: KJTM-TV 38 Montgomery: WCOV-TV 20 Reno: KAME-TV 21 Rochester: WUHF-TV 31 Tucson: KMSB-TV 11 Wichita: KSAS-TV 24

04-19-2012, 07:09 AM	#3
70s show watcher Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 20, 2008 Location: between point place and studio 8 h Posts: 4,549	where was that 70s show?

04-19-2012, 08:42 AM	#4
yankeesrj12 Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 4,335	That is an awful list.

04-24-2012, 08:39 PM	#7
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,520	I like how Fox even ignored the fact that it started as FBC and its first show was The Late Show starring Joan Rivers.

04-25-2012, 01:08 PM	#10
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08-26-2014, 09:12 AM	#12
myowndrownedworld Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 27, 2014 Posts: 102	Married with children pretty much launched Fox but throughout the run, they treated it like crap, cancelled it without no proper series finale and rarely talk about it in all the years it's been off the air. The Bundy's were one of, if not, the first dysfunctional family on television. A few years before The Simpsons, Family Guy, Malcolm in the middle and other shows that centre on dysfunctional families.