Has '30 Rock' Ruined The Liz Lemon Character Ever Since Returning From Hiatus?!? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 02-18-2012, 10:06 AM

http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2...to-little-girl

Ever since 30 Rock returned in January, there has been backlash from critics — most of it directed squarely at Liz Lemon. In a piece called “The Incredible Shrinking Liz Lemon: From Woman to Little Girl,” over on NPR, Linda Holmes writes, “Over the course of six seasons, Jack has been fully transformed into a condescending, all-knowing daddy, and Liz has been fully transformed into a needy little girl who is eternally terrified of displeasing him.” As she sees it, the relationship with Jack is out of balance, and a character who was “once frazzled but smart, harried but competent, capable of wrangling a bunch of crazy people and then slumping at the end of the day, exhausted but minimally victorious” is now, in Holmes’ opinion at least, “dumb.”

TMC · 02-18-2012, 09:32 PM

http://flavorwire.com/261141/in-defe...on-and-30-rock

Perhaps the "30 Rock" character hasn't changed so much as the expectations for her.

EmoJoe · 02-21-2012, 04:34 AM

^That article pretty much sums up my thoughts.

Ever since Parks & Rec/Leslie Knope came along people have expected Liz to be this sunny optimistic working woman she never was. I love Parks & Rec, but 30 Rock is a different show and they shouldn't be compared. Both are great at what they do.

02-18-2012, 10:06 AM	#1
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Has '30 Rock' Ruined The Liz Lemon Character Ever Since Returning From Hiatus?!? http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2...to-little-girl Ever since 30 Rock returned in January, there has been backlash from critics — most of it directed squarely at Liz Lemon. In a piece called “The Incredible Shrinking Liz Lemon: From Woman to Little Girl,” over on NPR, Linda Holmes writes, “Over the course of six seasons, Jack has been fully transformed into a condescending, all-knowing daddy, and Liz has been fully transformed into a needy little girl who is eternally terrified of displeasing him.” As she sees it, the relationship with Jack is out of balance, and a character who was “once frazzled but smart, harried but competent, capable of wrangling a bunch of crazy people and then slumping at the end of the day, exhausted but minimally victorious” is now, in Holmes’ opinion at least, “dumb.”
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02-18-2012, 09:32 PM	#2
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,739	In defense of Liz Lemon http://flavorwire.com/261141/in-defe...on-and-30-rock Perhaps the "30 Rock" character hasn't changed so much as the expectations for her.

02-21-2012, 04:34 AM	#3
EmoJoe Cool cool cool Forum Addict Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 71,478	^That article pretty much sums up my thoughts. Ever since Parks & Rec/Leslie Knope came along people have expected Liz to be this sunny optimistic working woman she never was. I love Parks & Rec, but 30 Rock is a different show and they shouldn't be compared. Both are great at what they do.
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