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Rich3 · 02-01-2011, 11:11 PM

One thing I didn't like about the show was Bonnie Franklin's attitude sometimes. She seemed to always be acting like a "guru" for womanhood, humanity, morality, etc.

When in reality it seems like she was promoting a lot of the outdated morales of the time in which the show aired. Particularly values of the 60's and 70's. The "me" generation. Turning their nose upon their parents' "old fashioned" generation...you know, the older people who did a small thing like make this world a better place for their children and grandchildren.

I'm not exactly sure what I am trying to say. But I did read that Franklin tried to have more control over the things that her character said and did, even to the disappointment of the writers and producers. Thinking back, that seems to be the thing about the show that I least enjoyed.

Brian Damage · 02-01-2011, 11:51 PM

I don't think she necessarily hurt ODAAT, but she was too angry a lot of times. I read an old article where she credits the late Carroll O'Conner for telling her to speak up if she didn't like something about the scripts.

TMC · 01-31-2015, 05:03 AM

Reading the "Did You Know?" Section...

1. Almost quit season 1 because she "didn't like the direction the show was going" and only stayed after her demands for creative license were met!

2. Jealous that the character of Ginny was "Upstaging" her so *POOF!* The Ginny character was gone!

3. Jealous of Glenn Scarpelli's character getting "more laughs" so *POOF!" HE was gone!

4. Apparent tension with Mackenzie Phillips upstaging her but "luckily" for Bonnie, Mackenzie got HERSELF fired.

5. Creators wanted to do 2 more seasons but BONNIE DECIDED 9 years was "enough." Screw the other actors opinions!

janet42 · 01-31-2015, 09:41 AM

She didn't do a good job playing a strong lead character. She was too emotional and to me not a good enough actress to play lead. Maybe she would of done better if she was a supporting character. I think that is why we haven't seen her as a regular in another show.

ThomasE · 04-14-2015, 11:31 PM

I thought she did just fine as the lead. She did well. Now, if she didn't want to do season nine, then it was what it was. It was her show and she did not want to keep going. Bea Arthur wanted "Maude" to end after the sixth season. If she did not want to keep going as the star, then it was pretty much her choice. It be dat way, sometimes.

Mr. Television · 04-15-2015, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TMC

Reading the "Did You Know?" Section...

1. Almost quit season 1 because she "didn't like the direction the show was going" and only stayed after her demands for creative license were met!

2. Jealous that the character of Ginny was "Upstaging" her so *POOF!* The Ginny character was gone!

3. Jealous of Glenn Scarpelli's character getting "more laughs" so *POOF!" HE was gone!

4. Apparent tension with Mackenzie Phillips upstaging her but "luckily" for Bonnie, Mackenzie got HERSELF fired.

5. Creators wanted to do 2 more seasons but BONNIE DECIDED 9 years was "enough." Screw the other actors opinions!

Glenn left to do Jennifer Slept here.

Mr. Television · 04-15-2015, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasE

I thought she did just fine as the lead. She did well. Now, if she didn't want to do season nine, then it was what it was. It was her show and she did not want to keep going. Bea Arthur wanted "Maude" to end after the sixth season. If she did not want to keep going as the star, then it was pretty much her choice. It be dat way, sometimes.

Both her and Valerie wanted to leave. They couldn't have the show without them so they ended it. It was better then dragging it along long after it JTS.

pkripper001 · 04-15-2015, 10:57 PM

I think another actress could have done a better job. I do not know who though
If you think the same,who do you think might have done a better job ?

Yong Fang · 04-16-2015, 08:37 AM

Nine years was flogging the horse. The girls were married and in their twenties, with Julie running off soap opera style. What's left for Ann Romano to do, av sex with Schneider in the trailer, get pregnant, marry Schneider and stress him to an early grave?

Maybe that would not have been a bad show!

cleverfun3000 · 04-16-2015, 04:48 PM

Mr. Television · 04-16-2015, 05:57 PM

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Although I don't think she made the entire show, I can't picture anybody else in the role of Ann Romano. She was a big reason for the show's success.

pkripper001 · 04-16-2015, 08:27 PM

I think the unofficial star of the show was Schneider,Pat Harrington,who won an Emmy in 1984 for best supporting Actor. I do not think Bonnie Franklin won any awards for One Day at a time, before the show ended.I just found out that:
Norman Lear Plots Latino ''One Day at a time''
Remake.

Mace Dolex · 04-16-2015, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TMC

Reading the "Did You Know?" Section...

1. Almost quit season 1 because she "didn't like the direction the show was going" and only stayed after her demands for creative license were met!

2. Jealous that the character of Ginny was "Upstaging" her so *POOF!* The Ginny character was gone!

3. Jealous of Glenn Scarpelli's character getting "more laughs" so *POOF!" HE was gone!

I don't know much of Bonnie's prior acting career but what kind of clout did she have on the show that she could start making such demands? I mean in those days I thought male producers resented the fact that a woman was giving them orders.

LittleRickyII · 04-17-2015, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasE

I thought she did just fine as the lead. She did well. Now, if she didn't want to do season nine, then it was what it was. It was her show and she did not want to keep going.

While the press in 1984 was saying that Bonnie Franklin and Valerie Bertinelli wanted to leave the show, it's very unlikely CBS would have renewed the show as it had dropped to 47th place in the ratings. The show had clearly run its course.

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Originally Posted by ThomasE

Bea Arthur wanted "Maude" to end after the sixth season. If she did not want to keep going as the star, then it was pretty much her choice. It be dat way, sometimes.

The official story, to protect Bea Arthur, was that she wanted to quit Maude, but the reality was the show was canceled. Maude had taken a nosedive in the ratings and wound up in 78th place in its sixth season. It was practically the bottom-rated show, and was being referred to as a "ratings disaster." There's no way CBS would have brought it back for another season.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...+ratings&hl=en

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Originally Posted by pkripper001

I think the unofficial star of the show was Schneider,Pat Harrington,who won an Emmy in 1984 for best supporting Actor. I do not think Bonnie Franklin won any awards for One Day at a time, before the show ended.I just found out that:
Norman Lear Plots Latino ''One Day at a time''
Remake.

She was nominated once for an Emmy for One Day at a Time -- in 1982 -- but lost to Carol Kane on Taxi. Pat Harrington did win an Emmy in 1984, and also a Golden Globe, in 1981.

ThomasE · 04-17-2015, 04:54 AM

Actually, Little Ricky, CBS did want to renew the show for another two years but it was Bonnie that decided that she did not want to do the show. Pat Harrington was hoping she would say yes as he would still be working to take care of a financial matter but he said he understood.

02-01-2011, 11:11 PM	#1
Rich3 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 688	Do you think Bonnie Franklin hurt the show? One thing I didn't like about the show was Bonnie Franklin's attitude sometimes. She seemed to always be acting like a "guru" for womanhood, humanity, morality, etc. When in reality it seems like she was promoting a lot of the outdated morales of the time in which the show aired. Particularly values of the 60's and 70's. The "me" generation. Turning their nose upon their parents' "old fashioned" generation...you know, the older people who did a small thing like make this world a better place for their children and grandchildren. I'm not exactly sure what I am trying to say. But I did read that Franklin tried to have more control over the things that her character said and did, even to the disappointment of the writers and producers. Thinking back, that seems to be the thing about the show that I least enjoyed.

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ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	I thought she did just fine as the lead. She did well. Now, if she didn't want to do season nine, then it was what it was. It was her show and she did not want to keep going. Bea Arthur wanted "Maude" to end after the sixth season. If she did not want to keep going as the star, then it was pretty much her choice. It be dat way, sometimes.
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01-31-2015, 05:03 AM	#3
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 124,744	Reading the "Did You Know?" Section... 1. Almost quit season 1 because she "didn't like the direction the show was going" and only stayed after her demands for creative license were met! 2. Jealous that the character of Ginny was "Upstaging" her so POOF! The Ginny character was gone! 3. Jealous of Glenn Scarpelli's character getting "more laughs" so *POOF!" HE was gone! 4. Apparent tension with Mackenzie Phillips upstaging her but "luckily" for Bonnie, Mackenzie got HERSELF fired. 5. Creators wanted to do 2 more seasons but BONNIE DECIDED 9 years was "enough." Screw the other actors opinions!

01-31-2015, 09:41 AM	#4
janet42 Three's Company Fan! Senior Member Join Date: Feb 22, 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,757	She didn't do a good job playing a strong lead character. She was too emotional and to me not a good enough actress to play lead. Maybe she would of done better if she was a supporting character. I think that is why we haven't seen her as a regular in another show.

04-15-2015, 10:57 PM	#8
pkripper001 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 12, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 401	I think another actress could have done a better job. I do not know who though If you think the same,who do you think might have done a better job ?

04-16-2015, 08:37 AM	#9
Yong Fang Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 04, 2009 Location: Memphis Tennessee Posts: 3,072	Nine years was flogging the horse. The girls were married and in their twenties, with Julie running off soap opera style. What's left for Ann Romano to do, av sex with Schneider in the trailer, get pregnant, marry Schneider and stress him to an early grave? Maybe that would not have been a bad show!

04-16-2015, 08:27 PM	#12
pkripper001 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 12, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 401	I think the unofficial star of the show was Schneider,Pat Harrington,who won an Emmy in 1984 for best supporting Actor. I do not think Bonnie Franklin won any awards for One Day at a time, before the show ended.I just found out that: Norman Lear Plots Latino ''One Day at a time'' Remake.

04-17-2015, 04:54 AM	#15
ThomasE Member Moderator Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2000 Location: New York, New York, U.S.A. Posts: 10,857	Actually, Little Ricky, CBS did want to renew the show for another two years but it was Bonnie that decided that she did not want to do the show. Pat Harrington was hoping she would say yes as he would still be working to take care of a financial matter but he said he understood.