Jay Leno Vs. Conan O'Brien Vs. NBC - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 08-29-2007, 09:31 AM

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.co...st-dig-at-nbc/

Jay Leno has resentment towards NBC, because he feels they are kicking him out to make way for Conan O'Brien to take over The Tonight Show in 2009. He made a comment on his show at that time that was rather sarcastic, and now he's made another one.

Nikki Finke reports that on Monday Leno was giving a quick tour of the new additions to the set of his late night show. One of the additions the show added while Leno was on vacation was a new desk. Leno didn't see what was wrong with the old one and said, "it's not like NBC to get rid of something that's worked perfectly for 15 years." Ouch.

I doubt that Jeff Zucker is on Leno's Christmas card list. He probably doesn't even use GE lightbulbs in his house.

Adamantium · 08-29-2007, 10:02 PM

I'm no fan of Jay Leno (and I love Conan) but I think it's wrong of NBC to do this to him. Originally, I thought it was Jay's decision to leave. Now that I'm finding out it's not, I feel bad for the guy.

GoldenGirlsFan92 · 08-30-2007, 09:12 PM

I rather Jay. Go JAY!

Mr. Television · 08-30-2007, 09:16 PM

I'm not a Leno fan but NBC is runned by idiots.

JulieSomoski · 09-07-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Walking Tall

I'm not a Leno fan but NBC is runned by idiots.

That's no surprise. That's a given-LOL

I love Jay, and I also am lead to believe it was not his decision to leave. NBC probably feels Conan can bring in better ratings than Jay, even though Jay Leno is always the top rated late show week after week.

TMC · 01-21-2015, 09:43 PM

http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/01/who-sup...conan-obri en/

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Five years ago, NBC Universal executives pulled the rug out from under Conan O’Brien. They felt audiences didn’t like him all that much, and they sorely missed Jay Leno’s broad appeal. By the time the smoke had cleared, O’Brien was out and Leno was back. The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien aired its final episode on Friday, January 22, 2010.

Support for O’Brien throughout the ordeal was tremendous. From the “I’m With Coco” and “Team Coco” public campaigns, to media professionals and celebrities providing comment, it seemed O’Brien had friends just about everywhere — except at NBC, where it mattered most. The network obviously wasn’t his biggest fan, but who else didn’t join the bandwagon? Or, to rephrase the question, who was on “Team Leno”?

NBC

From the public’s perspective, then-NBC Universal CEO Jeff Zucker was the main boss at the end of the video game that was late night television. However, he wasn’t the only network executive who thought everything about Leno involved sunshine and rainbows:

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Referring to the pointed jokes made this week by Mr. O’Brien and David Letterman of CBS, [NBC Sports Chairman Dick] Ebersol said it was “chicken-hearted and gutless to blame a guy you couldn’t beat in the ratings.”

He added that “what this is really all about is an astounding failure by Conan.” Mr. Ebersol is a veteran at the network, with a longstanding relationship with NBC Universal’s embattled chief executive, Jeff Zucker. Mr. Ebersol also has a deep link to the network’s late-night history, having been a creator of “Saturday Night Live,” and he has been frequently consulted on changes in NBC’s late-night lineup. (Via New York Times)

“There’s a certain amount of kidding that goes on between these personalities which can often be funny. But this has definitely crossed the line,” Jeff Gaspin, chairman of NBC Universal Television Entertainment said in a statement. “Jay is the consummate professional and one of the hardest-working people in television. It’s a shame that he’s being pulled into this.” (Via Los Angeles Times)

NBC carried the Leno flag with pride throughout the controversy. Even if Ebersol and Gaspin never spoke out, the network’s ties to the former Tonight Show host were strong.

Jerry Seinfeld

That Jerry Seinfeld and Leno are best buds has never been a secret. So when NBC decided to kick O’Brien to the curb in favor of their well en-chinned ex-Tonight Show host, Seinfeld had plenty to say about it:

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“I don’t think anyone’s preventing people from watching Conan. He’s there,” Seinfeld said, referring to O’Brien’s ratings declines, most of which can be attributed to poor lead-ins from Leno’s show and late local newscasts.

“I can’t blame NBC. They can’t hit the ball for you,” he said. “They can only give you the bat.”

Bottom line on the whole Leno-O’Brien debacle: “That’s showbiz. You gotta try new things,” Seinfeld said. (Via The Wrap)

That last line certainly explains The Marriage Ref. Remember The Marriage Ref? Neither do a lot of people.

http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/01/who-sup...nan-obri en/2/

Oprah Winfrey

Oprah? The Oprah Winfrey? Say it ain’t so! Just before Leno’s return, he sat down with Winfrey for his first television interview regarding the matter. At one point, Winfrey offered Leno her take:

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“I’m really surprised that so many people are against you, because I think people don’t understand the way television works. I can understand people thinking you were selfish if you owned the show and controlled the show. It’s a little surprising that people think that you stole the show, when it wasn’t your show to steal.” (Via ABC News)

The daytime talk show host also recorded a 30-minute audience discussion for her website. Between her audience’s assorted jabs at both Leno and O’Brien, Winfrey seemingly sided with Leno throughout the debate.

Paul Reiser

Nearly two months after O’Brien’s last Tonight Show episode, actor and comedian Paul Reiser penned (erm, typed) a blog post. Titled “A Teachable Leno Moment,” Reiser defended Leno via a conversation with his young son:

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“You know, the extra amazing thing about Jay is — whenever they ask him to try something, he almost always says ‘Sure.’ They asked him to step down and make room for the other funny guy, he said, ‘Sure.’

They asked him to put his show on earlier at night and he said, ‘Sure.’ Then they said, ‘Oh, boy, I think we made a mistake — would you mind going back to where we had you in the first place? That would really help us.’ And you know what he says? ‘Sure.'”

“Wow.”

“Yeah. And how about the fact that while all this craziness is going on, Jay just shows up to work every day and does his job. He doesn’t complain, he doesn’t get upset… He just does what he’s supposed to do: he makes people laugh. That’s not easy, you know.” (Via Huffington Post)

Reiser appeared on Leno’s revamped Tonight Show a year later — just days after his own show was axed by NBC for poor ratings. You should have opened the door, Burke.

Jim Norton

Of all the people who came out to defend Leno, comedian Jim Norton offered one of the most thoughtful arguments regarding NBC’s behavior and O’Brien’s exit:

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“Leno was unfairly vilified, and you shouldn’t vilify Conan either. But the way critics looked at it, they were like, ‘Well, you have to give Conan some time.’ And I agree, Conan should have gotten more time. But no one said that about Jay….No one gave him that leniency.” (Via CBS News)

For the full context of Norton’s comments, check out the video above. His points were some of the best given in support of Leno.

08-29-2007, 09:31 AM	#1
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Jay Leno Vs. Conan O'Brien Vs. NBC http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.co...st-dig-at-nbc/ Jay Leno has resentment towards NBC, because he feels they are kicking him out to make way for Conan O'Brien to take over The Tonight Show in 2009. He made a comment on his show at that time that was rather sarcastic, and now he's made another one. Nikki Finke reports that on Monday Leno was giving a quick tour of the new additions to the set of his late night show. One of the additions the show added while Leno was on vacation was a new desk. Leno didn't see what was wrong with the old one and said, "it's not like NBC to get rid of something that's worked perfectly for 15 years." Ouch. I doubt that Jeff Zucker is on Leno's Christmas card list. He probably doesn't even use GE lightbulbs in his house.
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08-29-2007, 10:02 PM	#2
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,839	I'm no fan of Jay Leno (and I love Conan) but I think it's wrong of NBC to do this to him. Originally, I thought it was Jay's decision to leave. Now that I'm finding out it's not, I feel bad for the guy.