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Finch · 06-14-2004, 02:41 AM

Who agrees. Even though I like David Spade it's not as good without Paul. Especially Goodbye that was soooooooooooo boring that should have been the last ep.

80s_Fan · 06-14-2004, 07:56 AM

Even though " John Ritter " is no longer part of the show and part of our lives, it's still a good show. As long as the show keeps going, I will continue watching it.

Ever since he died, one of my friends can't watch the show anymore because it's not the same without him which I understand but I can continue watching it unless it's cancelled.

TVJunkie101 · 06-14-2004, 08:44 AM

It's not the same without him, but the show is still very funny and entertaining and as long as it's on, I'll watch. Although I was iffy at the time, I have to say James Garner and David Spade are welcome additions. They are hilarious.

totallykatey · 06-14-2004, 04:40 PM

I don't think it sunk...the reason is probably because most people aren't used to Katey being the main star.

MistyDoll · 06-15-2004, 04:21 PM

I'm sorry but I don't watch 8SR anymore because I feel weird watching it without Paul. It's just not the same anymore.

fabernash · 06-15-2004, 05:43 PM

I still watch it and it remains as one of my favorites. I dont think it got worse after he died, because it's still good. It just lost most of its "funny-ness". Some of the stuff is still funny but nothing beats John Ritter! But I really like how the actors put their own style into how the characters would deal with it which also helped. So with that said, no I don't think it sunk, it just changed.

Janet&Jack · 06-15-2004, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by totallykatey
I don't think it sunk...the reason is probably because most people aren't used to Katey being the main star.

Eventhough Katey Sagal has top-billing, the show doesn't really have a main star anymore, the show works as an ensemble now.

Has the show gone down hill since John died? Yes, in some ways it has. Sadly, John can no longer display his magic, so the show kind of gotten boring because of it.

Ant-Lox · 06-16-2004, 08:04 AM

I started watching it when David spade joined...And he's the star of the show IMO...

totallykatey · 06-16-2004, 09:33 AM

Practically all of the cast are the main focus...but as Katey mentioned in a interview,

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It's true. Now, we are showing people how to get over tragedy and that you will laugh again. It's a whole different thing now. But I don't feel like the star. I sort of consider the family to be the star of the show.

MistyDoll · 06-16-2004, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by totallykatey
Practically all of the cast are the main focus...but as Katey mentioned in a interview,

If Katey Sagal feels this way, she should not ask for topbilling, but instead ask that everybody's names be in alphabetical order in the beginning credits of the show.

Chain Gang Member · 06-16-2004, 04:30 PM

If David Spade didn't come in,the show would stink

TMC · 06-17-2004, 02:35 AM

The fact that ABC is sticking w/ "8 Simple Rules..." rather than retire it out of respect for John Ritter really proves how sorry and desperate of a network they are at this point. Regardless of how much longer this show lasts, it will be forever recognized first & foremost as "that sitcom John Ritter starred on shortly before he suddenly died." Frankly, the bottom-line is that ABC is concerned the most about the potential syndication money (a la "Chico & the Man").

Personally, the show should be renamed "The Hennessy Clan" (kind of like when "Valerie/Valerie's Family" w/ Valerie Harper was renamed "The Hogan Family" when Sandy Duncan replaced her). Assuming that the show makes it into syndication, the Ritter-episodes should be left out. I say this because personally, it's going to be awfully painful to have to relive those episodes one-by-one knowing in the back of our minds that Ritter & his character are eventually going to die. The Ritter episodes should be sent to DVD w/ the profits going to charity.

aussieguypearce · 06-17-2004, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by TMC
The fact that ABC is sticking w/ "8 Simple Rules..." rather than retire it out of respect for John Ritter really proves how sorry and desperate of a network they are at this point. Regardless of how much longer this show lasts, it will be forever recognized first & foremost as "that sitcom John Ritter starred on shortly before he suddenly died." Frankly, the bottom-line is that ABC is concerned the most about the potential syndication money (a la "Chico & the Man").

Personally, the show should be renamed "The Hennessy Clan" (kind of like when "Valerie/Valerie's Family" w/ Valerie Harper was renamed "The Hogan Family" when Sandy Duncan replaced her). Assuming that the show makes it into syndication, the Ritter-episodes should be left out. I say this because personally, it's going to be awfully painful to have to relive those episodes one-by-one knowing in the back of our minds that Ritter & his character are eventually going to die. The Ritter episodes should be sent to DVD w/ the profits going to charity.

When I first saw promos for the "Goodbye" special episode, I was sick how they waisted no time on capitalizing poor John Ritter's death! The network only sees $$$$.

katefandream04 · 06-19-2004, 11:59 AM

I think they should release 8SR on DVD...I missed the beginning of second season and would like to see the show on DVD.

globalspot28 · 06-22-2004, 10:25 AM

I stopped watching it, because the only reason I started watching the show was because of John Ritter. The show was okay with John Ritter on it, but now that he is gone, it just isn't the same anymore. I have a feeling it might even get canceled soon.

View Poll Results: After John died did you think the show sunk?
Yes definetly why continue it without the main star	19	51.35%
No it's still good	18	48.65%
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06-14-2004, 02:41 AM	#1
Finch Banned Banned!! Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 11, 2004 Posts: 20	When John Ritter died the show went downhill Who agrees. Even though I like David Spade it's not as good without Paul. Especially Goodbye that was soooooooooooo boring that should have been the last ep.

06-14-2004, 07:56 AM	#2
80s_Fan Healthcare_Clerk Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2004 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 1,697	Still Good Even Though He's Gone Even though " John Ritter " is no longer part of the show and part of our lives, it's still a good show. As long as the show keeps going, I will continue watching it. Ever since he died, one of my friends can't watch the show anymore because it's not the same without him which I understand but I can continue watching it unless it's cancelled.

06-14-2004, 08:44 AM	#3
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06-14-2004, 04:40 PM	#4
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06-15-2004, 04:21 PM	#5
MistyDoll JohnRitter:1948-2003 Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 08, 2003 Location: Jack's Bistro Posts: 288	I don't watch I'm sorry but I don't watch 8SR anymore because I feel weird watching it without Paul. It's just not the same anymore.

06-15-2004, 05:43 PM	#6
fabernash Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 06, 2003 Posts: 190	I still watch it and it remains as one of my favorites. I dont think it got worse after he died, because it's still good. It just lost most of its "funny-ness". Some of the stuff is still funny but nothing beats John Ritter! But I really like how the actors put their own style into how the characters would deal with it which also helped. So with that said, no I don't think it sunk, it just changed.

06-16-2004, 08:04 AM	#8
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06-16-2004, 04:30 PM	#11
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06-17-2004, 02:35 AM	#12
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 127,361	The fact that ABC is sticking w/ "8 Simple Rules..." rather than retire it out of respect for John Ritter really proves how sorry and desperate of a network they are at this point. Regardless of how much longer this show lasts, it will be forever recognized first & foremost as "that sitcom John Ritter starred on shortly before he suddenly died." Frankly, the bottom-line is that ABC is concerned the most about the potential syndication money (a la "Chico & the Man"). Personally, the show should be renamed "The Hennessy Clan" (kind of like when "Valerie/Valerie's Family" w/ Valerie Harper was renamed "The Hogan Family" when Sandy Duncan replaced her). Assuming that the show makes it into syndication, the Ritter-episodes should be left out. I say this because personally, it's going to be awfully painful to have to relive those episodes one-by-one knowing in the back of our minds that Ritter & his character are eventually going to die. The Ritter episodes should be sent to DVD w/ the profits going to charity.

06-19-2004, 11:59 AM	#14
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06-22-2004, 10:25 AM	#15
globalspot28 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 17, 2004 Posts: 168	I stopped watching it, because the only reason I started watching the show was because of John Ritter. The show was okay with John Ritter on it, but now that he is gone, it just isn't the same anymore. I have a feeling it might even get canceled soon.
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