Joan Jefferies murder

[LooksLikeCRicci]

Hi, cad1968! Welcome to the group! We're happy to have you!

[mayfrapz]

Found this thread via the Unsolved Mysteries wiki. The Unsolved Mysteries FB page posted that the daughter interviewed for this episode passed away.

[Latka Gravas]

This JJ segment was one of the few UM where it seemed fairly clear what happened & who committed the crime. SP was shady as hell - he had an answer for everything, though I don't believe a word he said. Too bad that JJ started working for this scam-artist/crook. She should have left the company long before, given that she hadn't been paid for months.

That being said, I don't believe anyone should be convicted unless there's definitive proof; and, there didn't seem to be much proof in this case - just circumstantial evidence.

I agree it's unlikely that JJ would have been the target of a random robbery, given that her expensive necklace was left behind - very implausible.

Originally Posted by mayfrapz

Found this thread via the Unsolved Mysteries wiki. The Unsolved Mysteries FB page posted that the daughter interviewed for this episode passed away.

Very sad. The daughter seemed fairly young during the interview; if she was 25 (or younger), she would only have been in her late 40's/early 50's when she passed - given that this was the 1995/1996 UM season.

[TheCars1986]

Daughter's obituary here. I keep coming back to the vomit found at the murder scene matching exactly what Sam Patel had for dinner that evening. It's baffling as to why a DA never brought charges against him. And now that Joan's daughter has passed away, it's unlikely they'll ever try him for her murder. She was a key witness who overheard him coming to her house asking to be let in to use the phone or to give him a ride home.

[SP4CE INV4DERZ]

This whole case stinks like the Curry in a Hurry left in the toilet bowls at my work... Sam stands only one place behind Donnie Hansen in the sneaky little turd's that have got away with murder.

[Hambone2421]

Surprisingly, I had never seen this episode until recently. After I viewed it for the first time, my immediate thought was that if this had happened in a big city or even a larger town, this would have been solved and Sam Patel would have been convicted. The fact that they knew what he ate at the restaurant hours before Joan was killed and that exact meal just happens to be thrown up steps away from where Joan was found is incredible. It's even more incredible that not a single warrant was ever issued is mind boggling to me. As someone else already said, he will likely never be tried and convicted for this crime due to Joan's daughter passing away some years ago. Such a ridiculous outcome for what seems like a very straight forward case.

[Rayroy]

I think race is a big factor here. If he were white, he likely would have been charged. It's obvious he is guilty, but there is no evidence. There are only clues. It's likely the police spoke with the DA and the DA refused to take the case figuring he can't win a conviction and double jeopardy would get him cleared forever. It's better to let the case go and hope for better evidence in the future than rush the case, he gets acquitted and tax-payer money is wasted while he goes free forever. I don't believe there is enough here to prove guilt which is what the prosecution has to do. He's obviously guilty. He is the negative Indian stereotype I've encountered in New York. He's a total lying scam artist, thief, murderer.

I think something else may have occurred. He might have told the police that they better prove guilt or he will sue them for racism and violating his civil rights. This all happened shortly after the Rodney King riots and was in the middle of OJ Simpson. They probably felt unless they had a sure thing, the press could get involved saying another non-white man being dragged by the system by the big bad racist white police. He's guilty. The moment I heard him say his first sentence I knew he was guilty. He is such a narcissist and thinks everyone is so stupid around him while he perceives himself to be a genius that he got on Unsolved Mysteries thinking a guilty man would not go on, so he appears innocent. He actually reminds me of several of my cousins and also other former friends I cut off who were total trash. I got sick of their BS. It's the same BS this piece of crap is shoveling while telling you it's caviar.

The children should have tried a civil suit to at least get everything on record and that might have forced the DA to charge him if some good evidence came out of it. Saying something on Unsolved Mysteries does not have the same value and swearing to it in a court of law. It's too late now. He got away with it.

[mwcarolina]

We all likely think the same thing. If i had to put my money on it, i blame Sam Patel, but there’s no proof. His interview was SO bad that he came off as very cocky. My favorite line from him. “The shirt is in my closet, it has no bloodstains on it. If the police wrote a really nice letter requesting me to give them the shirt, then I’d GLADLY give them the shirt.” So cocky and smug, he knows he got away with this. He acted so fishy

[thinwhiteduke74]

Originally Posted by Rayroy

I think something else may have occurred. He might have told the police that they better prove guilt or he will sue them for racism and violating his civil rights. This all happened shortly after the Rodney King riots and was in the middle of OJ Simpson. They probably felt unless they had a sure thing, the press could get involved saying another non-white man being dragged by the system by the big bad racist white police.

lol whut

A+ speculation goin' on here.

[Rayroy]

Originally Posted by thinwhiteduke74

lol whut

A+ speculation goin' on here.

You sound like a Mensa member.

[Street Novelist]

Originally Posted by thinwhiteduke74

lol whut

A+ speculation goin' on here.

Isn't that what this whole forum is for? Speculation?

[StackTime]

Let's be careful. In other threads, thinwhiteduke74 has spiraled quite a bit. Let's get back to the murder of Joan (and i agree almost certainly by Patel).