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UMfan77 · 06-17-2004, 06:53 PM

A few nights ago the story about Joan Jefferies was shown, she was murdered after having dinner with one of her co-workers. Joan had started a business with one of her co-workers, an Indian man named Sam, and she wanted to get out of the business because she wasn't getting paid. A few weeks before her murder, Sam showed up at Joan's house unexpectely, but Joan was on the phone with her daughter and her daughter had heard Sam at the front door when Joan. The night of the murder, Joan had dinner with Sam at a Applebee's restaurant and Sam had given Joan a paycheck. After dinner, they went their separate ways, according to Sam. When Joan's body was found in her car later on that night, Sam's vomit was found near the car. Sam is insistant that he didn't murder Joan. Such a strange case. Joan's family was unable to collect her insurance money since her case is still pending.

unsolvedfan4life · 06-20-2004, 11:13 PM

Yeah, the guy's name was Sam Patel. He was a real creep in the interveiw. I can just tell that he was a liar. He had all the motive, and the reason to do it. Why he is not behind bars remains to be an unsolved mystery.

Kane · 06-21-2004, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by unsolvedfan4life
Yeah, the guy's name was Sam Patel. He was a real creep in the interveiw. I can just tell that he was a liar. He had all the motive, and the reason to do it. Why he is not behind bars remains to be an unsolved mystery.

I agree. Something about Sam Patel doesn't seem right.

As I recall from the segment, DNA tests on the vomit found at the crime scene were inconclusive. But I'm sure that Patel is still a person of interest in the case, and there's no doubt in my mind that he was involved in Joan's murder. Too bad they don't have enough evidence to indict him (or whoever was involved in the crime).

regina1820 · 07-02-2007, 12:37 AM

are you saying that it was bob bean that killed joan jefferies? if anyone knows anything please help, this is joans other daughter.

wiseguy182 · 07-02-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by regina1820

are you saying that it was bob bean that killed joan jefferies? if anyone knows anything please help, this is joans other daughter.

Well hello Joan's daughter, I think I speak for everyone here when I say I am terribly sorry for your loss. I do hope whoever did this meets justice one day. We do appreciate you posting here, and we are certainly willing to listen to whatever you have to say. Is there anything not mentioned in the segment that you would like to share?

Bob Bean was a suspect in a different case, and was later cleared by police. The person who posted that was using it as their signature, which appears in every post that they make. Bob Bean is totally not connected to this case.

LooksLikeCRicci · 07-02-2007, 07:48 AM

Yes, Bob Bean is kind of a "running gag" on these boards, as he was someone who didn't come across too well in the UM interviews. But his case and your mother's case are two different things.

We are sorry for your loss. Since you've posted on here, I'm assuming that your mother's case is still open? Do you know if Sam is still being considered a suspect? I agree with everyone who has commented about him... he certainly did seem like he was hiding something.

In any case, we are always happy to hear from family members. I hope that you get the answers you are looking for in your mom's case.

regina1820 · 07-31-2007, 11:15 AM

we thank everyone for there words of condolences. Yes the case is still open, we really cant get anything from the police, almost like they droped it. they dont talk to us. my sister has called and they just put us off. It is very frustrating and unfinished. we still look for any leads and dont get anywhere. In my heart of hearts I know it was him (sam). Sometimes I feel That God is going to have to take care of this situation, because our law enforcement cant.

crystaldawn · 08-28-2008, 05:21 PM

Okay now the co-worker of Joan's who acted suspicious was Sam Patel, right? Its been a while since I've seen the segment. I did watch on Greta several months back where a man had vanished and his wife was desperately searching for him. Turns out he was recently found in Illinois (meaning he left on his own) and his name is Samir Patel!! Here's an article with a picture. Could this be the same man from the Joan Jefferies segment?

http://www.indianewengland.com/ME2/d...F3960A96415E0E

Here's an article about him being found:

http://www.connpost.com/ci_10280377?source=most_viewed

nohwheregirl · 08-28-2008, 05:37 PM

Wow, good catch, CD. I haven't seen the case in a long time and don't remember what Sam Patel looks like. Since they kept quoting an unrelated coworker of the missing Samir Patel who's last name was also Patel, I'm guessing it might be a pretty common name. I hope someone can review the segment and give us their opinion.

This case always reminds me of the line from Spinal Tap, "You can't exactly dust for vomit." It turns out you can! Well, sort of, anyway. I'm not sure why the police would let this case drop. It seems extremely solvable.

Necco · 08-28-2008, 07:49 PM

Patel is an extremely common last name for certain Indian ethnic groups along with Singh, they are the Jones and Smiths of that part of the world. There have been Patels in that area of Connecticut for at least 20 years (even before the recent influx of immigrants). Samir is not that uncommon a name either, it is one of the most popular first names of Indian origin in the US. (http://www.hindu.com/2005/05/16/stor...1601142000.htm) In fact, there was a National Spelling bee contestant named Samir Patel recently. The odds of the Milford Samir being the same one are pretty slim.

That being said, after the Chichester/Rockefeller incident, I'm certainly not going to summarily rule anything out.

PrettyinPink55 · 08-28-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Necco

Patel is an extremely common last name for certain Indian ethnic groups along with Singh, they are the Jones and Smiths of that part of the world. There have been Patels in that area of Connecticut for at least 20 years (even before the recent influx of immigrants). Samir is not that uncommon a name either, it is one of the most popular first names of Indian origin in the US. (http://www.hindu.com/2005/05/16/stor...1601142000.htm) In fact, there was a National Spelling bee contestant named Samir Patel recently. The odds of the Milford Samir being the same one are pretty slim.

That being said, after the Chichester/Rockefeller incident, I'm certainly not going to summarily rule anything out.

This is very true. The Gujarati last name, Patel is like our Smith....And the Punjabi, Singh is also very common.

But just a small, unrelated, random tidbit about this case, besides taking place in Houston, where I live, I know the guy (not personally) who played Sam Patel in the reenactment. He's a local Radio DJ for a very popular Indian station here!!

egswanso · 01-07-2009, 12:27 PM

The case as presented on UM, which was just on, is very troubling, as the segment presents a clear case against patel, which begs the question why the police haven't been able to get a search warrant on him (for the shirt referenced in the segment) and make a case.

As presented, Sam has motive, means, and opportunity, plus an "alibi" that sounds nonsensical and conflicting statements on key elements of the case. It leads me to think that either the case against Sam isn't nearly as good as UM portrays it to be (a not-uncommon situation) or the police haven't given this case the attention it deserves, since it seems solvable.

crystaldawn · 01-07-2009, 02:33 PM

Its so obvious to me that Sam was lying in his interview. I also remember in the original segment (didn't notice it in today's version though, maybe I just missed it) the mention that there was vomit near the crime scene and the contents apparently matched what Sam had during his dinner with Joan. I wonder if any samples were kept because they could check it for dna. If it was a match with Sam's at least that would put him at the crime scene and maybe they could finally build a case against him.

egswanso · 01-07-2009, 02:52 PM

I would have to think no sample was mantained (or has been misplaced), as I can't fathom why it wouldn't be typed if it was still in existance.

The combination of the over-kill and vomit (presumably indicating an "amateur" killer who got sick over the sight of blood) again would point to sam. I agree with you that he did not seem credible in his interview.

TracyLynnS · 01-07-2009, 04:42 PM

I wish I would have paid closer attention when this segment aired today.

Was Joan Jeffries Samir Patel's employee, or was she his business partner? It's very odd that he would have a $250,000 life insurance policy on a mere employee. Just that fact alone should raise eyebrows of law enforcement.

If she was a business partner, then she should have also had a $250,000 life insurance policy on Mr. Patel. If not, there's more reason for him to be the primary suspect.

The website calls them business partners but the tv show said she was his employee. The website also says that she was essentially a secretary and that in seven months he had paid her one check that bounced. In that 7 months, he owed her $4,000 in back pay. Why insure a secretary making less than $10,000 a year, for $250,000?

For goodness sake, that is a huge amount of money, especially for back when this happened, in 1994. From reading the site, I think Patel planned it from the very beginning. Patel said he was insuring the "key employees" of Best Aviation. It would be interesting to see just how many key employees his company had.

That quarter of a million dollars is the enormous motive. He was out to dinner with her the night she was killed, there's the opportunity. Did he have access to a gun? Duh! What's taking the cops 15 years to solve this?

Joan's family needs to call police on a weekly basis, to the point that the investigators expect to hear from them. And Texas has the death penalty. It would be nice to drag this guy out of his hidey hole and get this case closed.

06-17-2004, 06:53 PM	#1
UMfan77 Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 28, 2003 Posts: 1,064	Joan Jefferies murder A few nights ago the story about Joan Jefferies was shown, she was murdered after having dinner with one of her co-workers. Joan had started a business with one of her co-workers, an Indian man named Sam, and she wanted to get out of the business because she wasn't getting paid. A few weeks before her murder, Sam showed up at Joan's house unexpectely, but Joan was on the phone with her daughter and her daughter had heard Sam at the front door when Joan. The night of the murder, Joan had dinner with Sam at a Applebee's restaurant and Sam had given Joan a paycheck. After dinner, they went their separate ways, according to Sam. When Joan's body was found in her car later on that night, Sam's vomit was found near the car. Sam is insistant that he didn't murder Joan. Such a strange case. Joan's family was unable to collect her insurance money since her case is still pending.

06-20-2004, 11:13 PM	#2
unsolvedfan4life Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 14, 2004 Location: The Garden State Posts: 214	Yeah, the guy's name was Sam Patel. He was a real creep in the interveiw. I can just tell that he was a liar. He had all the motive, and the reason to do it. Why he is not behind bars remains to be an unsolved mystery.
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07-31-2007, 11:15 AM	#7
regina1820 Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jul 02, 2007 Posts: 2	thank you we thank everyone for there words of condolences. Yes the case is still open, we really cant get anything from the police, almost like they droped it. they dont talk to us. my sister has called and they just put us off. It is very frustrating and unfinished. we still look for any leads and dont get anywhere. In my heart of hearts I know it was him (sam). Sometimes I feel That God is going to have to take care of this situation, because our law enforcement cant.

07-02-2007, 12:37 AM	#4
regina1820 Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jul 02, 2007 Posts: 2	are you saying that it was bob bean that killed joan jefferies? if anyone knows anything please help, this is joans other daughter.

07-02-2007, 07:48 AM	#6
LooksLikeCRicci Likes to live in a clean house Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2005 Posts: 4,050	Yes, Bob Bean is kind of a "running gag" on these boards, as he was someone who didn't come across too well in the UM interviews. But his case and your mother's case are two different things. We are sorry for your loss. Since you've posted on here, I'm assuming that your mother's case is still open? Do you know if Sam is still being considered a suspect? I agree with everyone who has commented about him... he certainly did seem like he was hiding something. In any case, we are always happy to hear from family members. I hope that you get the answers you are looking for in your mom's case.

08-28-2008, 05:21 PM	#8
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Okay now the co-worker of Joan's who acted suspicious was Sam Patel, right? Its been a while since I've seen the segment. I did watch on Greta several months back where a man had vanished and his wife was desperately searching for him. Turns out he was recently found in Illinois (meaning he left on his own) and his name is Samir Patel!! Here's an article with a picture. Could this be the same man from the Joan Jefferies segment? http://www.indianewengland.com/ME2/d...F3960A96415E0E Here's an article about him being found: http://www.connpost.com/ci_10280377?source=most_viewed

08-28-2008, 05:37 PM	#9
nohwheregirl THE Mystery Machine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 23, 2004 Posts: 1,057	Wow, good catch, CD. I haven't seen the case in a long time and don't remember what Sam Patel looks like. Since they kept quoting an unrelated coworker of the missing Samir Patel who's last name was also Patel, I'm guessing it might be a pretty common name. I hope someone can review the segment and give us their opinion. This case always reminds me of the line from Spinal Tap, "You can't exactly dust for vomit." It turns out you can! Well, sort of, anyway. I'm not sure why the police would let this case drop. It seems extremely solvable.

08-28-2008, 07:49 PM	#10
Necco Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 06, 2006 Posts: 1,149	Patel is an extremely common last name for certain Indian ethnic groups along with Singh, they are the Jones and Smiths of that part of the world. There have been Patels in that area of Connecticut for at least 20 years (even before the recent influx of immigrants). Samir is not that uncommon a name either, it is one of the most popular first names of Indian origin in the US. (http://www.hindu.com/2005/05/16/stor...1601142000.htm) In fact, there was a National Spelling bee contestant named Samir Patel recently. The odds of the Milford Samir being the same one are pretty slim. That being said, after the Chichester/Rockefeller incident, I'm certainly not going to summarily rule anything out.

01-07-2009, 12:27 PM	#12
egswanso Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 06, 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 463	The case as presented on UM, which was just on, is very troubling, as the segment presents a clear case against patel, which begs the question why the police haven't been able to get a search warrant on him (for the shirt referenced in the segment) and make a case. As presented, Sam has motive, means, and opportunity, plus an "alibi" that sounds nonsensical and conflicting statements on key elements of the case. It leads me to think that either the case against Sam isn't nearly as good as UM portrays it to be (a not-uncommon situation) or the police haven't given this case the attention it deserves, since it seems solvable.

01-07-2009, 02:33 PM	#13
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Its so obvious to me that Sam was lying in his interview. I also remember in the original segment (didn't notice it in today's version though, maybe I just missed it) the mention that there was vomit near the crime scene and the contents apparently matched what Sam had during his dinner with Joan. I wonder if any samples were kept because they could check it for dna. If it was a match with Sam's at least that would put him at the crime scene and maybe they could finally build a case against him.

01-07-2009, 02:52 PM	#14
egswanso Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 06, 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 463	I would have to think no sample was mantained (or has been misplaced), as I can't fathom why it wouldn't be typed if it was still in existance. The combination of the over-kill and vomit (presumably indicating an "amateur" killer who got sick over the sight of blood) again would point to sam. I agree with you that he did not seem credible in his interview.

01-07-2009, 04:42 PM	#15
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I wish I would have paid closer attention when this segment aired today. Was Joan Jeffries Samir Patel's employee, or was she his business partner? It's very odd that he would have a $250,000 life insurance policy on a mere employee. Just that fact alone should raise eyebrows of law enforcement. If she was a business partner, then she should have also had a $250,000 life insurance policy on Mr. Patel. If not, there's more reason for him to be the primary suspect. The website calls them business partners but the tv show said she was his employee. The website also says that she was essentially a secretary and that in seven months he had paid her one check that bounced. In that 7 months, he owed her $4,000 in back pay. Why insure a secretary making less than $10,000 a year, for $250,000? For goodness sake, that is a huge amount of money, especially for back when this happened, in 1994. From reading the site, I think Patel planned it from the very beginning. Patel said he was insuring the "key employees" of Best Aviation. It would be interesting to see just how many key employees his company had. That quarter of a million dollars is the enormous motive. He was out to dinner with her the night she was killed, there's the opportunity. Did he have access to a gun? Duh! What's taking the cops 15 years to solve this? Joan's family needs to call police on a weekly basis, to the point that the investigators expect to hear from them. And Texas has the death penalty. It would be nice to drag this guy out of his hidey hole and get this case closed.