People that you never tried to like on UM because your hatred for them is so strong

[bigted12]

Originally Posted by MagiciansBrick

I feel like with Cindy James, it's kinda hard to differentiate between her faking it and her having mental health issues. If she was faking the stalking then the extremes she went to, and the fact it culminated in suicide, suggest she was quite an unwell person.

This is one of those cases that stand out because being honest it's really impossibile to say she was either making it up/mentally ill or was really being stalked.

I'm split on this, i don't know.

I mean i always thought that the detective was exactly right, when he said "if cindy was so scared, why did she take her dog for a walks at 2am?" exactly! scared people who are being stalked don't act like that.

but then you have the fire in her basement, her neighbor said when he ran outside there was a guy infront of the home who "ran away"

i always thought the fact that cindy was dating a cop (patrick mcbride) at the time is way too overlooked, if it was him he would have had the means to cover up what he was doing to cindy...

[tvscript124]

Originally Posted by bigted12

This is one of those cases that stand out because being honest it's really impossibile to say she was either making it up/mentally ill or was really being stalked.

I'm split on this, i don't know.

I mean i always thought that the detective was exactly right, when he said "if cindy was so scared, why did she take her dog for a walks at 2am?" exactly! scared people who are being stalked don't act like that.

but then you have the fire in her basement, her neighbor said when he ran outside there was a guy infront of the home who "ran away"

i always thought the fact that cindy was dating a cop (patrick mcbride) at the time is way too overlooked, if it was him he would have had the means to cover up what he was doing to cindy...

The 2 a.m. walks baffled me too. I wouldn't go out for a walk at 2 a.m. under normal circumstances, but with a stalker targeting me? Forget it.

The neighbor seeing the guy that ran away definitely lent more credence to the stalker angle.

If you look at the site put up by Cindy James' friend who wrote a book about the case, the cop definitely seems to be a person of interest.

[bigted12]

Originally Posted by tvscript124

The 2 a.m. walks baffled me too. I wouldn't go out for a walk at 2 a.m. under normal circumstances, but with a stalker targeting me? Forget it.

The neighbor seeing the guy that ran away definitely lent more credence to the stalker angle.

If you look at the site put up by Cindy James' friend who wrote a book about the case, the cop definitely seems to be a person of interest.

The problem with cindy is that something was always seemingly "off" about her, i mean what was that thing with some professor? then people doubted the story she told about a boyfriend who had cancer, then killed himself, the 2am dog walking, the "theres something, but i can't tell you"

i 100% get why people think she did it to herself. she was "odd" but that doesn't mean that odd people can't end up being stalked and then murdered.

[WishfulDreamer]

Larry Gibson. Even if he were somehow innocent (doubtful) shooting stray cats is disgusting behavior. Animal cruelty in itself a huge red flag.

[tvscript124]

Patti English's mother and stepfather (partially hearing impaired woman looking for her father).

Patti's Father: "Is Helen home?"
Stepfather: "Nope."
Patti's Father: "Can I see Patti?"
Stepfather: "Nope."

Later after the father does get to see Patti...

Stepfather: "Time's up, pal."

Patti was never even told about her real father when she was little. Who does that?

[Perhaps It's You]

Marvin Gabrion, the fact that he is still sucking air makes my blood boil

[mwcarolina]

Paul Pollis!!! The guy was SO smug with his answers and him saying, “I clean, I live there. I like to live in a clean house” was most smug. He definitely killed his wife