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carebears · 11-24-2010, 10:04 PM

Chad Noe his mother and grandmother are trashy people, the grandmother or mother were arrested a couple years ago for arson and I believe they planned to murder Wendy Camp and her sister in law and daughter before they even called Wendy up.

The Rowlett Police department and Defense Attorney Greg Davis who were over zealous and hid evidence that proved Darlie was innocent and railroaded her and sent her to death row for something she didn't do. I really don't think all defense attorneys and detectives and cops are over zealous because if the person was guilty of the crime, they deserve to be put away and the people were just doing their job.Greg Davis has been called a lying SOB and he has been called evil by Darlie supporters.

Edward Harold Bell-exposing himself by taking his pants off in front of children while they were playing in the street,plus killing Larry Dickens and leaving the daughter without a parent. Bell is a pedophile and an evil man that should have got the death penalty. I usually do not wish the death penalty on people.

Jim Burnside is a man I hate very much and I think he should be executed, he was so evil, his 5 year old daughter said You Wouldn't kill me Daddy and he looked her right in the eye and said yes I would.

justins5256 · 11-24-2010, 10:15 PM

Darlie Routier.

Zlatko · 11-25-2010, 01:14 AM

Michael Swango, Franklin Floyd and Paul "I like a clean house" Pollis. People trusted Swango to help their loved ones since he was a doctor but instead, he murdered them. Adding salt to the wounds, he seemed to think it was amusing that they died. It's sad to think he was born...

RobinW · 11-25-2010, 12:19 PM

Man, there are just SO many hateful people that have been featured on UM that it's almost impossible to narrow them down. However, I have to say that I don't hate the wanted fugitives or convicted criminals as much as the people who are obviously guilty of a crime, but have gotten away with it and are going on living their normal day-to-day lives and there doesn't seem to be anything anybody can do about it (i.e. Paul Pollis, Chad Noe, Judy Groezinger, etc.).

I guess Franklin Delano Floyd would represent the worst of both worlds since he is prison, but frequently taunts investigators by refusing to disclose the whereabouts of Michael Hughes and the true identity of Sharon Marshall since he knows there isn't any legal way to force the guy to talk.

I also have a special hatred for any corrupt or lazy LE official who helps cover up the death of a young kid (i.e. Keith Warren, Norman Ladner, Andre Jones) and rudely tries to tell their parents it was a suicide even though there's so much evidence to suggest otherwise. You have to wonder if people like that have children themselves and if they would react the same way if it was their child who died in that fashion.

sharonite · 11-25-2010, 12:23 PM

I would go out on a limb (but not too far) and say that generally the people who are most disliked are the people who are thought to be guilty as hell. The aforementioned Pollis and Routier come to mind, as well as Tim McClure, Judy Groezinger, Jule Caylor, Bob Hall, etc.

Oldschooler81 · 11-26-2010, 02:30 PM

Mark Nichols. Even if he (by a sliver of a chance) isn't guilty of killing Christie, the guy was very dislikable. He seemed controlling and made excuses for being physically violent with her - i.e. the time she tried to go out and he says he tossed her onto the bed to stop her from "attacking" him.

She was like 22-24 at this time, who the heck was he to tell a grown woman (much less his wife) when she can or can't go out?

carebears · 11-26-2010, 11:29 PM

Darlie Routier didn't slaughter her two children Devon and Damon, the prosecution portrayed her as a shrewish pampered woman that murdered her children because her husbands business was plummeting and she feared losing her lifestyle and the prosecuters felt the children were in her way. I don't agree with most of those things in that theory. I do believe the husbands business was plummeting, I do believe Darlie was a pampered woman living in a nice house with a nice fountain and nice lifestyle, there is nothing wrong with that. If a mother put her lifestyle over her children and killed them for fear of loosing her lifestyle, I would not like that woman. I don't believe the prosecutors theory about her feeling the children were in her way or her killing them over fear of loosing her lifestyle.The prosecuters also felt that Darlie killed her children because she was tired of the responsibility of motherhood. If that were true, how come Baby Drake was found crying in a crib upstairs and unharmed. There are a lot of people that I think are guilty as sin on Unsolved Mysteries, but if you listen to the Unsolved Mysteries broadcast, you will hear the jury member Charlie Stanford talk about how he felt he made a mistake in convicting Darlie. Some people are on the fence about Darlie's guilt and some people believe she is innocent and some people think she is guilty as sin.With all the for Darlie websites that talk about proof of innocence, it is no wonder that so many people have doubts about her guilt. I feel that Barry Fife and Ben Claibourg could be Devon and Damon's killers, they stole Darrin's car three years before the murders and charged 10,000 dollars to Darrin's credit card. I think the show Forensic Files had a biased way of presenting Darlie's case and made her look guilty as sin of murdering her two sons.

carebears · 11-26-2010, 11:34 PM

I never liked Mark Nichols whether he killed Christy or not,he seemed like he could be violent toward his wife when he was interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries.

XCalibur · 11-27-2010, 07:41 AM

Here are the ones who stand out in my mind the most, who haven't already been mentioned:

1. Wayne Hecker Mr. "I don't owe anyone any explanatiobut the Lord" Give me a break. No 100% sure he killed Tara, but still something about this guy was just loathsome to me. Don't know about anyone else.

2. Gregory Barker (What he put Ms Roche through before killing her was terrible. I doubt this was his first murder and maybe not his last.)

3. Tex Sherwood (He may not have killed anyone but I hate abusers with their caveman mentality, put his family through hell, piece of trash in my view)

4. Joe Maloney (I really hate spouse killers. Sickens me this guy never faced justice for poisoning his poor wife. Extradition technacalities won't save you from Hell buddy boy.)

5. Ira Einhorn (Another piece of garbage lowlife who got away with murder for years because of Europe and their garbage extradition rules , thankfully he was finally brought to justice.)

6. Frank Casteel (Felt it was justified to butcher three men with a shotgun because of his this is my property mentality. Glad he is in jail.)

There are more who I remember the cases but not the names, like the scumbag who murdered his g/f and left her under the bed for her mother to find, that he got out after six years was an abomination.

Or that nut job who shot six people in those public places.

And plenty more I'm just not thinking of at the moment. Lets face it there has been a lot of scumbags on this show hard to keep em all straight.

carebears · 11-27-2010, 03:55 PM

I don't blame you for hating Tex Sherwood, he was so mean to his wife and he had a really bad temper when people would ask him about his son.
I don't like Tex Sherwood either. I don't blame you for hating Greg Barker, he is a pretty violent man towards Hilda Roche. He could be a serial killer. I don't like Greg Barker either.
I never liked Dennis Depue that pushed his wife down the stairs and shot her.He was a mean guy, no wonder the kids were reluctant to spend time with him.

XCalibur · 11-27-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by carebears

I don't blame you for hating Tex Sherwood, he was so mean to his wife and he had a really bad temper when people would ask him about his son.
I don't like Tex Sherwood either. I don't blame you for hating Greg Barker, he is a pretty violent man towards Hilda Roche. He could be a serial killer. I don't like Greg Barker either.
I never liked Dennis Depue that pushed his wife down the stairs and shot her.He was a mean guy, no wonder the kids were reluctant to spend time with him.

I'm not justifying what Dennis Depue did, but I can't help but think there might have been some truth to the letters he sent that Marilyn was turnin his kids against him and doing him wrong.

I just didn't get the feeling he was a naturally violent man, I think he may have just snapped from a long time of frustration with his marriage and family.

That being said, I don't know he may havebeen a genuine piece of trash all along. And I'm not saying Marilyn deserved to die, but I do think people should be more careful how they handle divorces and relatinships, cause in situations like that when you push people to far they snap, and I think that may have happened here.

But as viewers of Unsolved Mysteries, we don't always know all the circumstances, sometimes its just a feeling you get.

XCalibur · 11-27-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carebears

I don't blame you for hating Tex Sherwood, he was so mean to his wife and he had a really bad temper when people would ask him about his son.
I don't like Tex Sherwood either. I don't blame you for hating Greg Barker, he is a pretty violent man towards Hilda Roche. He could be a serial killer. I don't like Greg Barker either.
I never liked Dennis Depue that pushed his wife down the stairs and shot her.He was a mean guy, no wonder the kids were reluctant to spend time with him.

Just out of curiosity, any reason you didn't comment on the others?

TheCars1986 · 11-27-2010, 10:01 PM

Hate is a very strong word, especially for someone I've never met. But people like Darlie Routier, Leonard Rizzo, Paul Pollis, and others who deny murdering people and then are proven wrong would be the ones I despise the most. That and when they update the murders and show the cowards who committed them, I guess you could say I hate those people.

carebears · 11-28-2010, 03:01 PM

I bet you would feel guilty about hating Darlie Routier, if DNA prooved that somebody else murdered Devon and Damon.Just because years have went by doesn't mean the real killer can't be found. For years I thought that Darryl the guy that committed suicide and said he would talk to a psychic when the case was featured on UM, didn't kill Sherry Iberly. It took 25 years for Sherry's real killer to be arrested.Sherry was killed in 1982 while delivering pizzas. Here is the online article about suspects arrest.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/d...est_121807.php

carebears · 11-28-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

Hate is a very strong word, especially for someone I've never met. But people like Darlie Routier, Leonard Rizzo, Paul Pollis, and others who deny murdering people and then are proven wrong would be the ones I despise the most. That and when they update the murders and show the cowards who committed them, I guess you could say I hate those people.

I do hate people that keep saying they are innocent when they are guilty like Dave Davis still claims he is innocent of killing his wife Shannon.That is an Unsolved Mysteries case. I hate George Trepal even though he was never featured on Unsolved Mysteries. He keeps saying he didn't poison the Carr family. I have a very strong feeling that Darlie is innocent, I really don't think that Darlie is an angel and I don't make her out to be one. I don't make her out to be a monster either.Darlie wasn't the perfect woman around Devon and Damon,when one of her boys squirted her with a water gun at a birthday party,she smashed his finger in birthday cake.

11-24-2010, 10:04 PM	#1
carebears Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 24, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 83	People that you never tried to like on UM because your hatred for them is so strong Chad Noe his mother and grandmother are trashy people, the grandmother or mother were arrested a couple years ago for arson and I believe they planned to murder Wendy Camp and her sister in law and daughter before they even called Wendy up. The Rowlett Police department and Defense Attorney Greg Davis who were over zealous and hid evidence that proved Darlie was innocent and railroaded her and sent her to death row for something she didn't do. I really don't think all defense attorneys and detectives and cops are over zealous because if the person was guilty of the crime, they deserve to be put away and the people were just doing their job.Greg Davis has been called a lying SOB and he has been called evil by Darlie supporters. Edward Harold Bell-exposing himself by taking his pants off in front of children while they were playing in the street,plus killing Larry Dickens and leaving the daughter without a parent. Bell is a pedophile and an evil man that should have got the death penalty. I usually do not wish the death penalty on people. Jim Burnside is a man I hate very much and I think he should be executed, he was so evil, his 5 year old daughter said You Wouldn't kill me Daddy and he looked her right in the eye and said yes I would.

11-24-2010, 10:15 PM	#2
justins5256 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 08, 2002 Posts: 3,866	Darlie Routier.

11-25-2010, 01:14 AM	#3
Zlatko Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 04, 2008 Location: Nowhereland Posts: 367	Michael Swango, Franklin Floyd and Paul "I like a clean house" Pollis. People trusted Swango to help their loved ones since he was a doctor but instead, he murdered them. Adding salt to the wounds, he seemed to think it was amusing that they died. It's sad to think he was born...

11-25-2010, 12:19 PM	#4
RobinW Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2010 Posts: 1,874	Man, there are just SO many hateful people that have been featured on UM that it's almost impossible to narrow them down. However, I have to say that I don't hate the wanted fugitives or convicted criminals as much as the people who are obviously guilty of a crime, but have gotten away with it and are going on living their normal day-to-day lives and there doesn't seem to be anything anybody can do about it (i.e. Paul Pollis, Chad Noe, Judy Groezinger, etc.). I guess Franklin Delano Floyd would represent the worst of both worlds since he is prison, but frequently taunts investigators by refusing to disclose the whereabouts of Michael Hughes and the true identity of Sharon Marshall since he knows there isn't any legal way to force the guy to talk. I also have a special hatred for any corrupt or lazy LE official who helps cover up the death of a young kid (i.e. Keith Warren, Norman Ladner, Andre Jones) and rudely tries to tell their parents it was a suicide even though there's so much evidence to suggest otherwise. You have to wonder if people like that have children themselves and if they would react the same way if it was their child who died in that fashion.

11-25-2010, 12:23 PM	#5
sharonite Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 27, 2009 Posts: 157	I would go out on a limb (but not too far) and say that generally the people who are most disliked are the people who are thought to be guilty as hell. The aforementioned Pollis and Routier come to mind, as well as Tim McClure, Judy Groezinger, Jule Caylor, Bob Hall, etc.

11-26-2010, 02:30 PM	#6
Oldschooler81 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 03, 2009 Location: Northern CA Posts: 457	Mark Nichols. Even if he (by a sliver of a chance) isn't guilty of killing Christie, the guy was very dislikable. He seemed controlling and made excuses for being physically violent with her - i.e. the time she tried to go out and he says he tossed her onto the bed to stop her from "attacking" him. She was like 22-24 at this time, who the heck was he to tell a grown woman (much less his wife) when she can or can't go out?

11-26-2010, 11:29 PM	#7
carebears Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 24, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 83	Darlie Routier didn't slaughter her two children Devon and Damon, the prosecution portrayed her as a shrewish pampered woman that murdered her children because her husbands business was plummeting and she feared losing her lifestyle and the prosecuters felt the children were in her way. I don't agree with most of those things in that theory. I do believe the husbands business was plummeting, I do believe Darlie was a pampered woman living in a nice house with a nice fountain and nice lifestyle, there is nothing wrong with that. If a mother put her lifestyle over her children and killed them for fear of loosing her lifestyle, I would not like that woman. I don't believe the prosecutors theory about her feeling the children were in her way or her killing them over fear of loosing her lifestyle.The prosecuters also felt that Darlie killed her children because she was tired of the responsibility of motherhood. If that were true, how come Baby Drake was found crying in a crib upstairs and unharmed. There are a lot of people that I think are guilty as sin on Unsolved Mysteries, but if you listen to the Unsolved Mysteries broadcast, you will hear the jury member Charlie Stanford talk about how he felt he made a mistake in convicting Darlie. Some people are on the fence about Darlie's guilt and some people believe she is innocent and some people think she is guilty as sin.With all the for Darlie websites that talk about proof of innocence, it is no wonder that so many people have doubts about her guilt. I feel that Barry Fife and Ben Claibourg could be Devon and Damon's killers, they stole Darrin's car three years before the murders and charged 10,000 dollars to Darrin's credit card. I think the show Forensic Files had a biased way of presenting Darlie's case and made her look guilty as sin of murdering her two sons.

11-26-2010, 11:34 PM	#8
carebears Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 24, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 83	I never liked Mark Nichols whether he killed Christy or not,he seemed like he could be violent toward his wife when he was interviewed on Unsolved Mysteries.

11-27-2010, 07:41 AM	#9
XCalibur Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 16, 2010 Location: Belfast, Va Posts: 977	Here are the ones who stand out in my mind the most, who haven't already been mentioned: 1. Wayne Hecker Mr. "I don't owe anyone any explanatiobut the Lord" Give me a break. No 100% sure he killed Tara, but still something about this guy was just loathsome to me. Don't know about anyone else. 2. Gregory Barker (What he put Ms Roche through before killing her was terrible. I doubt this was his first murder and maybe not his last.) 3. Tex Sherwood (He may not have killed anyone but I hate abusers with their caveman mentality, put his family through hell, piece of trash in my view) 4. Joe Maloney (I really hate spouse killers. Sickens me this guy never faced justice for poisoning his poor wife. Extradition technacalities won't save you from Hell buddy boy.) 5. Ira Einhorn (Another piece of garbage lowlife who got away with murder for years because of Europe and their garbage extradition rules , thankfully he was finally brought to justice.) 6. Frank Casteel (Felt it was justified to butcher three men with a shotgun because of his this is my property mentality. Glad he is in jail.) There are more who I remember the cases but not the names, like the scumbag who murdered his g/f and left her under the bed for her mother to find, that he got out after six years was an abomination. Or that nut job who shot six people in those public places. And plenty more I'm just not thinking of at the moment. Lets face it there has been a lot of scumbags on this show hard to keep em all straight.

11-27-2010, 03:55 PM	#10
carebears Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 24, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 83	I don't blame you for hating Tex Sherwood, he was so mean to his wife and he had a really bad temper when people would ask him about his son. I don't like Tex Sherwood either. I don't blame you for hating Greg Barker, he is a pretty violent man towards Hilda Roche. He could be a serial killer. I don't like Greg Barker either. I never liked Dennis Depue that pushed his wife down the stairs and shot her.He was a mean guy, no wonder the kids were reluctant to spend time with him.

11-27-2010, 10:01 PM	#13
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,594	Hate is a very strong word, especially for someone I've never met. But people like Darlie Routier, Leonard Rizzo, Paul Pollis, and others who deny murdering people and then are proven wrong would be the ones I despise the most. That and when they update the murders and show the cowards who committed them, I guess you could say I hate those people.

11-28-2010, 03:01 PM	#14
carebears Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 24, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana Posts: 83	I bet you would feel guilty about hating Darlie Routier, if DNA prooved that somebody else murdered Devon and Damon.Just because years have went by doesn't mean the real killer can't be found. For years I thought that Darryl the guy that committed suicide and said he would talk to a psychic when the case was featured on UM, didn't kill Sherry Iberly. It took 25 years for Sherry's real killer to be arrested.Sherry was killed in 1982 while delivering pizzas. Here is the online article about suspects arrest. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/d...est_121807.php