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Their mission: To fight injustice, to right that which is wrong, and to serve all mankind! Super Friends premiered Sept. 8, 1973, on ABC, to much ballyhoo among the kiddie set. |
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Superfriends was GOOD when it started!
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Superfriends used to be in TV Tropes' "Condemned by History" page:
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Aside from the writer quoted above, I don't know of anyone who "hated" Wendy and Marvin. What a bunch of bull. The only "stain on the reputation of the superhero and comic book adaptation genres" is in the writer's mind. SuperFriends was a popular, innocuous series, and the comic book adaptation was highly successful as well. I was a pre-teen back then and I loved all incarnations of the animated series.
What a hatchet job. The writer fails to mention that in the initial conception of the series, SuperFriends always based its episodes on environmental concerns and moral issues. The "Darker and Edgier" stuff the writer favors may have worked for its time, but now comic book sales are hitting all-time lows, and the realistic approach is proving not to endure with any kind of real longevity. |
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I'll be the first to attest that Superfriends as a show, has not aged very well. It's a very, very campy depiction of superheroes looking back, but not campy in a tongue-in-cheek, "this is really supposed to be a parody" (a la the live-action Batman TV series from the 1960s) kind of way. If you prefer your superhero shows to be more "sophisticated" like the later stuff from the DCAU (i.e. Batman: The Animated Series and so forth), then this show really isn't for you. I've been watching the show lately on MeToons, and I noticed right away that the dialogue doesn't seem natural. Like the characters always have to make a lot of expositional dialogue that makes it sound like the viewers couldn't figure out for themselves otherwise. For example, if Superman is going to use his freeze-breath then he literally has to say out loud that he's about to use his freeze-breath as if we wouldn't know or understand otherwise. |
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The show is a safe way to introduce kids to superheroes. There is even an episode of Superfriends during the last season, where they retold the origin of Batman (voiced by Adam West).
https://superfriends.fandom.com/wiki/The_Fear The writer, Alan Burnett would later on work on Batman The Animated Series. |
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That was actually the first time that Batman's origin story was ever depicted on film or television. Keep in mind, that this was still less than four years away from the live-action movie with Michael Keaton. And on the live-action TV series from the 1960s with Adam West, we're only told in passing in the pilot episode that Bruce Wayne's parents were murdered. They obviously, still had to skirt around stuff due to 1980s Saturday morning censorship issues. They couldn't actually show Bruce's parents be shot (instead, lightening represented the gun shots) or specifically say that they were murdered. Either way, you would have never gotten an episode like "The Fear" in the earlier seasons of Superfriends, in which the heroes were always presented as being infallible. There was another episode called "The Death of Superman", in which Superman actually dies (this was good eight years before the comics did a storyline on that) and it focuses on Firestorm's own grief and guilt over his role in Superman's apparent death. |
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As far as not aging well, I have no problem with that as a general assessment -- but expecting the characters to sound "natural" is trying to put the modern style on 50-year-old material, and not all of us like the heavy-handed gritty ultra-realistic rotoscoped fumetti crap that passes as comic character interpretation today, where every hero has 6-pack abs. Frank Miller decided that Superman should not like Batman. Way to diss decades of comic history. The dystopian tone of modern comic character interpretation has made most of the work inappropriate for young fans, and the creators could not care less that their work has failed to maintain the kind of high sales and popularity of earlier decades. |
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And even after that, Batman and Robin always seemed to use their gadgets to get out of trouble, Wonder Woman is always using her lasso to subdue a villain, and Superman just grabs villains or throws foreign objects instead of actually punching somebody in the face. In the late 1960s, activists like Peggy Charren and her group Action for Children's Television were really beginning to breathe down networks' necks about how Saturday morning cartoons weren't "educational" enough. The idea that networks and animation studios had to tone down the violence really reared its ugly head after the assassinations of high profile political figures like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968. This kind of explains why the 1970s were not a very good decade for action-adventure cartoon shows. Many of the big animated shows on American TV during that time period were dare I say, Scooby-Doo knock offs. This how superhero animated shows were like the decade before Superfriends hit the air: |
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If all you want is characters throwing punches, then all you needed was the Superman character in SuperFriends. Why not have him punch every villain into unconsciousness? Is that what you were looking for? How much better that would have been than to have a mouse taken out of the GEEC super-computer by Plastic Man, just throw a lot of punches and have plenty of exaggerated violence.
It's obvious SuperFriends is not at all to your liking, yet here you are trying to retroactively mold it into something it was never intended to be. How many "punches" were thrown in the first Superman (1978) film, yet that's a classic -- we don't need a violent mess to have a compelling story. SuperFriends had more creativity than the throwing of punches would've offered. |
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It's touched upon beginning at the 6:50 mark. Super Friends, rightly or wrongly, was produced during an era where superhero shows that were aiming for a much younger audience had to overexplain everything. In essence, Super Friends was like illustrated radio, where you could close your eyes and still be able to follow the story very well. Super Friends when you think about it, was in the same place where comic books were back in the 1950s, which were pretty quaint, simpleminded, and cornball. Comic books by the time that The Legendary Super Powers Show hit the air in 1984, were getting more complex and sophisticated. |
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