Norm Macdonald has died

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Norm was hilarious. A lot of people didn't get him. He didn't really care, and neither do I. Most comedians today are beyond horrible. Norm was a gem in a field of crap. RIP Norm. you were one of a kind.

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Originally Posted by icecream

No one did. He kept his cancer from everyone for almost a decade.

Bill Maher says he's glad Norm Macdonald kept his cancer private

Maher told Jimmy Kimmel he was not “judging anybody,” but he did not agree with stars who shared their health issues publicly. “Sometimes, the audience loves that. I’ve never been in that camp,” he said. “I am not here to burden you. I am here to lighten your burden. So the fact that I didn’t know about this, nobody knew about this — good one, Norm. He kept it to himself because he’s in show business. He’s here to make you happy.”

On his podcast, Conan O'Brien says Norm Macdonald's impact is only going to grow

Conan used his Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend podcast for a one-hour reflection on the late Macdonald's legacy. Conan, who had tried and failed to book Macdonald on his podcast since its launch in 2018, said he had no idea that Macdonald had been ill for a long time. Conan was joined by Andy Richter and longtime show producer Frank Smiley, who produced Macdonald's segments, as they remembered all the funny things Macdonald did on Conan's Late Night, Tonight Show and Conan shows. "We are accustomed sadly to losing funny, talented people all the time. And we grow accustom to it. I think Norm's impact is only going to grow, and I think his significance in comedy is only going to expand over time because he was such, such an incredible talent and trying to describe what made Norm different is so difficult." After recalling Macdonald's first appearance on Late Night in 1995, Conan said: "If you really want to see what it looks like when I'm laughing, watch a Norm Macdonald segment because I have my hands on my belly, which I think might be my tell." Conan also recalled NBC West Coast president Don Ohlmeyer the banning Macdonald from Late Night. Ohlmeyer is best known for being pals with O.J. Simpson and for having Macdonald fired from SNL for telling too many Simpson jokes. Conan felt conflicted because Ohlmeyer backed him for Late Night host. But he decided to write a letter protesting Ohlmeyer's edict that Macdonald not appear on his show. ALSO: Watch Norm Macdonald discuss his funeral with David Letterman.

Norm Macdonald was a consummate bulls*** artist: Him dying at 61 feels like the setup to a Norm Macdonald joke

Macdonald's death from cancer was "functionally" a Norm Macdonald joke, says Lili Loofbourow. "'I didn’t even know he was sick!' many have written, repurposing the punchline from a joke where Macdonald pretends to have just found out about Hitler and plots to kill him, only to learn he’s already dead," says Loofbourow. "That he’d been sick with cancer brought inevitable references to Macdonald’s bit about how we talk about the disease. 'My Uncle Bert is waging a courageous battle,' he said. 'He’s lying in a hospital bed with a thing in his arm watching Matlock.' Macdonald lamented that the battle metaphor positions the sick person as the loser: 'I’m pretty sure if you die, the cancer also dies at the same. So that to me is not a loss, that’s a draw.' References to Macdonald’s 'draw' with cancer were being posted within minutes of the news of his death. It was all so on the nose it felt risky to believe any of it: Macdonald was a legendary stand-up and consummate bulls*** artist in a variety of genres. His remarkably literary 'memoir” was despite its title, Based on a True Story, and its promise to be 'the truth, every word of it, to the best of my memory,' at least half lies. I was waiting for news of his death to be just one more. Death is final, after all, and Macdonald took great care to not be definitive about much of anything." Loofbourow adds: "I’d failed to appreciate how firm Macdonald’s anti-confessional commitments were, and not just in standup. It takes an almost unthinkably unusual personality to keep a struggle with leukemia secret from friends for nine years. That chosen loneliness was undertaken for basically artistic reasons: 'He kept it quiet because he didn’t want it to affect his comedy,' his brother Neil said when the death was announced. It’s clear in interviews that this cost him something: 'I’ve heard people go onstage and talk about cancer or some s***, and I go, ‘Isn’t this what happens to everybody?’ he said to Vulture’s David Marchese in 2018. 'They seem to think they’re singular in their story when their story is the most common story that could possibly be, which is suffering and pain.' He wanted to tell funny cancer jokes, so the cancer needed to have happened to an 'Uncle Bert.' If there’s such a thing as authentic bulls***tery, bulls*** you’d sincerely die to defend, maybe that was Macdonald’s thing."

ALSO:

• Bob Saget pays an emotional tribute to Norm Macdonald, calling him "one of the most important people in my life and one of the sweetest": “We loved each other," says Saget, who first met a teenage Macdonald while performing in Canada. “I can’t accept that he’s gone, and that’s the shock we’re going through,” Saget said. “Sixty-one. It’s a sin for all of us that he’s gone. He cared about people a lot. And he felt the human condition so deeply that it affected him in different ways.” Saget said that although Macdonald never told him he was sick, “I felt it. I knew something was wrong. I think a lot of us felt it. His mind was still amazing. I had been texting with him. And I knew that the last month was a turn in whatever was going on.” Saget added: “Two weeks ago, he texted me, ‘How are you? What are you doing? Are you doing stand-up?’ And I answered him with much too many words. And then I didn’t hear back. And then last week I got a text and just said, ‘I love you.’ I didn’t say much back. I just said, ‘I love you, Norm.’ And that was my last communication with him.”
• Macdonald liked to play with the tension between fact and fiction: "He was not a comedian who used the minutiae of his life as a subject, at least not in any way that might be accounted reliable," says Robert Lloyd. "Most comics deliver a mixture of fact and fiction, of course, but Macdonald especially liked to play with the tension between them. He could make it hard to tell just where autobiography ended and the bit began, whether the bit was taking you to some sort of real-life revelation or whether the personal anecdote was all just a bit...Clearly he was not the ill-informed dummy he often made himself out to be, ignorant of current events — indeed, there was something deceptively cerebral, even conceptual about his humor, even as it might edge toward the cornpone, as in the long, involved, digressive shaggy dog stories that were a hallmark of his talk show visits."
• Based on a True Story: A Memoir might have been Norm Macdonald’s biggest bet: "It contains almost no true stories," says Kaleb Horton. "It’s a pack of preposterous lies, a collection of tall tales and shaggy-dog stories that put its author’s finest talk-show bits to shame. It’s laugh-out-loud funny, of course; the audiobook is a must. It’s also a novel, a metafictional sendup of Nabokov’s Pale Fire, with a ghostwriter named 'Keane' as its Charles Kinbote. Like Kinbote, Norm’s Keane can’t resist hijacking the text, and his deluded self-insertions transform a simple job (stamping out a hacky celebrity memoir for a quick payday) into a twisted labor of obsession and jealousy that ends in murder."
• Howard Stern remembers Macdonald as a regular on The Howard Stern Show: It was Macdonald who brought his Dirty Work co-star Artie Lange to Stern's show in 1998. Lange ended up becoming Stern's sidekick from 2001 to 2009.
• Chris Kattan says he and Macdonald shared a "comedic love" despite reports they hated each other behind the scenes at SNL: "It’s a shock," says Kattan. "A huge loss for the world of comedy. He truly was one of the funniest people I’ve ever known. He was one of those people that when you asked, ‘What’s he like? Is he really funny in real life?” — he was funnier in real life. And that’s a rarity."
• What it was like to go gambling in Las Vegas with Macdonald