The Killers of Gus Hoffman

[themaninblack]

I have wondered what Richard Stelle and Michael Hodges died from in prison. I know that Michael Stevenson was shot to death in 1986 and that Richard Dollar is basically NOT getting out of jail.
I am always horrified by Gus Hoffman's story and what happened to him and his family.
There are no Findagrave links for Stelle or Hodges from what I have seen.

[Lieutenant Bookman]

I found this a while back on Michael Hodges. Doesn’t say what he died from, but it was with his family nearby so I’m guessing some kind of illness/natural causes. If you didn’t know any differently you’d think he was a normal guy based on this write up:

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries...y?pid=89982957

And he does have a Find a Grave link, but it doesn’t provide any information:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...l-allen-hodges

Couldn’t find anything anywhere on John Stelle

[Allierain]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Bookman

I found this a while back on Michael Hodges. Doesn’t say what he died from, but it was with his family nearby so I’m guessing some kind of illness/natural causes. If you didn’t know any differently you’d think he was a normal guy based on this write up:

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries...y?pid=89982957

And he does have a Find a Grave link, but it doesn’t provide any information:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...l-allen-hodges

Couldn’t find anything anywhere on John Stelle

Is that first link for the same Hodges?? I cannot believe that write-up.

[themaninblack]

Oh ok I did not realize he had that Findagrave listing.

[Lieutenant Bookman]

Originally Posted by Allierain

Is that first link for the same Hodges?? I cannot believe that write-up.

I can’t be 100% certain, but he has the same middle name, is the same age, and died in Vacaville, which is where the California state prison at solano is. In addition, one of the comments on his memorial is a friend who said he was trying to look him up in the “California system”. So if it isn’t him all those things are pretty major coincidences. But I agree, assuming it is the same guy, that write up is interesting to say the least

[themaninblack]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Bookman

I can’t be 100% certain, but he has the same middle name, is the same age, and died in Vacaville, which is where the California state prison at solano is. In addition, one of the comments on his memorial is a friend who said he was trying to look him up in the “California system”. So if it isn’t him all those things are pretty major coincidences. But I agree, assuming it is the same guy, that write up is interesting to say the least

I do think that it is him. I have to remember that while he evidently lived a violent life of crime, he had family who loved him.

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Bookman

I found this a while back on Michael Hodges. Doesn’t say what he died from, but it was with his family nearby so I’m guessing some kind of illness/natural causes. If you didn’t know any differently you’d think he was a normal guy based on this write up:

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries...y?pid=89982957

And he does have a Find a Grave link, but it doesn’t provide any information:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/...l-allen-hodges

Couldn’t find anything anywhere on John Stelle

There is no way that's the same Michael Hodges. These dudes were absolute vipers masquerading as human beings.

[Lieutenant Bookman]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

There is no way that's the same Michael Hodges. These dudes were absolute vipers masquerading as human beings.

Are you just basing that on an obituary that (presumably) his family wrote for him? Like I said in a previous post, there are a number of things that line up that lead me to believe it’s the same guy. At the end of the day, almost nothing is online about these guys outside of UM related stuff so it’s possible you could be right and it isn’t the same Michael Hodges, I don’t have any way of knowing with 100% certainty, but I do think it’s him based on what I was able to find from the few sources that do exist

[Corkys-Place]

These creatures were scum, plain and simple!

[VHSJunkie]

Originally Posted by themaninblack

I have wondered what Richard Stelle and Michael Hodges died from in prison. I know that Michael Stevenson was shot to death in 1986 and that Richard Dollar is basically NOT getting out of jail.
I am always horrified by Gus Hoffman's story and what happened to him and his family.
There are no Findagrave links for Stelle or Hodges from what I have seen.

I've seen numerous murder cases where they don't release the cause of death of the inmate(s) in prison. Figuring it's to kinda spare anymore publicity for everyone involved.

[baloony]

What exactly was their problem with Gus? Was it one of those "oh, you trying to be one of us?" kind of things that gangs like that are known for? Did one of them think that Gus was wearing a cut and they got offended by it? I got chewed out by some bikers several years ago for wearing a Sons of Anarchy cut that I got from the FX website. While I didn't fear for my safety at any point, I did think of poor Gus. So I took it off and put it in the backseat of my car.

[VHSJunkie]

Originally Posted by baloony

What exactly was their problem with Gus? Was it one of those "oh, you trying to be one of us?" kind of things that gangs like that are known for? Did one of them think that Gus was wearing a cut and they got offended by it? I got chewed out by some bikers several years ago for wearing a Sons of Anarchy cut that I got from the FX website. While I didn't fear for my safety at any point, I did think of poor Gus. So I took it off and put it in the backseat of my car.

Maybe a slight beatup would of been enough for the rowdy motorcycle gangsters to get thier kick out of harassing another fellow motorcyclist who was not afflicted with any gang. They killed him for no reason .

[mikewho]

I always felt bad for gus. minding his own business and not out hurting anyone or doing anything wrong.

I went to a gas station one night and there were 3 bikers that were rough and you could tell they were looking for trouble. Ended up seeing on the news they beat up a guy. They didn't mess with me thankfully. I've always thought it was due to me blaring the stereo with some brutal music that probably made me look like a crazy psycho��

[VHSJunkie]

Originally Posted by mikewho

I always felt bad for gus. minding his own business and not out hurting anyone or doing anything wrong.

I went to a gas station one night and there were 3 bikers that were rough and you could tell they were looking for trouble. Ended up seeing on the news they beat up a guy. They didn't mess with me thankfully. I've always thought it was due to me blaring the stereo with some brutal music that probably made me look like a crazy psycho��

I think no remains of his have ever been found,his mother passed away some years ago

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by baloony

What exactly was their problem with Gus?

I used to think that it was because they saw Gus, who was a skinny, not very tall, 19 year old kid on this amazing, valuable motorcycle and they must have decided in their heads that he wasn't worthy of having it.

But the real answer shows in how senseless this whole crime was. It was a bunch of evil people enjoying being evil. Killing a person is sick enough. But when you have to torture a person over the period of multiple days, (maybe a week has been speculated), before you finally kill said person, you are just getting off on the suffering of others. It's not something that HAS to be done. You kill because you like to kill.