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[Lorimar Television]

Dont worry, its not the biggest arc of the season. S5 has a lot of great storylines you should enjoy. Better than s4s imo.

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by cfr1970

"Hello, My Name is Cheyenne"---Ok, I have to be honest and say this was a terrible episode. So much cringe!! For one, having Van actually GO to an AA meeting to appease Reba when he's covering for Cheyenne was silly.
And how everyone crowded at BJ's for drinks so Cheyenne couldn't see them almost seemed like they were mocking the whole issue. It was weird and so cringy.
Now to Cheyenne....she has ONE bottle of Schnapps (LOL) that took 2 months to finish.....and she's an alcoholic?! GMAB!!
Then the final scene where she pours herself a glass of wine and tells Reba when she drinks did NOT sound like an alcoholic to me. It sounded like a normal adult who had a couple of drinks now and then to calm down with all the stress of school and being a mom and Van moving to Denver.

And NO ONE has seen her drunk. She was at a martini bar a few episodes earlier stone sober. To do this type of story successfully, you need a few episodes to build it up. A half season story arc that cumulated in the season finale would've been much more effective storytelling for a subject like this.

As it was, it felt like a tacked on finale just to have a cliffhanger and imo it failed miserably. Alcoholism is a serious subject and should be treated as such. I feel Reba treated it in a mocking and frivolous manner.

I bet in the season 5 opener they'll have Cheyenne finished with her 12 step program and we'll never hear about it again. I hope you're right Lorimar and season 5 is better.

I hated the beginning and end of this season. The opener with Brock/BJ fighting and closing with the fake drinking problem. This show fails when they try going too deep and should stick to the lighthearted fare imo.

Oh well---i'll start season 5 next Saturday.

Did you at least get a few good laughs from Van in this episode? He was my favorite part. When he gave Reba the cup of vinegar to drink, I laughed out loud. Then they give it to BJ saying it's coffee

Did you ever watch Bree's alcohol storyline on Desperate Housewives or remember Alison's drinking storyline on Melrose Place? I think we're used to shows doing alcoholism to the extreme like that and forget that there's also quiet ways a person can become an alcoholic. It would have been nice to see more of the effects the alcohol had on her than just the one time she skipped class to go to a bar and then having an empty bottle in the closet.

Originally Posted by cfr1970

When you say Van is your favorite part of it, do you mean where he went to the AA meeting by himself to cover for her? I thought it was so silly that he would actually go to one when he didn't have a problem.

To make this story work, we needed to see Cheyenne slipping drinks for a few episodes, and be drunk around the family. I don't expect a Lifetime movie of the week, but more time was needed to build up this kind of story imo.

It will be interesting to see if this becomes a whole story arc in the next season...but damn....it all just came out of nowhere.

No, it wasn't the AA meeting. In that episode it was the vinegar he had Reba drink and then announcing he's getting a beer when Cheyenne comes in saying she's an alcoholic. In the season 5 opener, he's also hilarious at the end. You'll see what I mean.

Originally Posted by cfr1970

But I will keep an open mind for next season---though I have to admit, part of me is dreading it because I have a feeling this story is going to annoy the hell out of me.

This is too good of a quote to not say "don't have all your dreading on that story because there's another one coming that will take that instead"

Originally Posted by Lorimar Television

Don’t dread s5! I find s5 way better than S4 but s6 is better than both. It’s nowhere near FOL levels of shark jump. I’m fact Idt it jumps what so eve. S5 is great, and better than s4.

Wow, really? You think season 6 is better? Maybe we need a new thread to discuss this Just kidding. I can wait until cfr is done watching it so we can all discuss at once He's only got 35 episodes left to watch of the series. That'll go by fast.

[cfr1970]

Originally Posted by Christopher

Did you at least get a few good laughs from Van in this episode? He was my favorite part. When he gave Reba the cup of vinegar to drink, I laughed out loud. Then they give it to BJ saying it's coffee

Yeah that was funny. It was a mix of prune juice and vinegar. (I can only imagine how gross that tastes!) It was funny how BJ kept on drinking the crap to not insult her idol Reba.

Originally Posted by Christopher

Did you ever watch Bree's alcohol storyline on Desperate Housewives or remember Alison's drinking storyline on Melrose Place? I think we're used to shows doing alcoholism to the extreme like that and forget that there's also quiet ways a person can become an alcoholic. It would have been nice to see more of the effects the alcohol had on her than just the one time she skipped class to go to a bar and then having an empty bottle in the closet.

I tuned out of Desperate Housewives before that story began but I did see Alison's drinking on Melrose. They showed her drunk and how her drinking was causing problems which concerned others around her. (Was this before or after Kimberly blew up the building? I think her injuries from that caused her drinking as well?)
To make Cheyenne's story to work, I think we needed a couple of episodes where we saw how her escalated drinking was affecting her life and those around her.
She could've left Elizabeth at the store or something to cause people around her to see how far it went. All the audience got was one bottle of Schnapps that took 2 months to finish. It's absurd to call that an alcoholic.

Originally Posted by Christopher

No, it wasn't the AA meeting. In that episode it was the vinegar he had Reba drink and then announcing he's getting a beer when Cheyenne comes in saying she's an alcoholic. In the season 5 opener, he's also hilarious at the end. You'll see what I mean.
This is too good of a quote to not say "don't have all your dreading on that story because there's another one coming that will take that instead"

I start season 5 this Saturday, and with Lorimar saying it's great and you saying it's not, i'm looking forward to how i'll feel about it. I'd hate for the show to go out on a creative slump, but I can already see cracks in the foundation. But I guess it happens to almost all sitcoms after a few seasons.
Even my favorite ones have creative slumps by the 5th season so it's probably to be expected.

Originally Posted by Christopher

Wow, really? You think season 6 is better? Maybe we need a new thread to discuss this Just kidding. I can wait until cfr is done watching it so we can all discuss at once He's only got 35 episodes left to watch of the series. That'll go by fast.

I should finish Reba by Sunday 10/4---then will have to find a new series to watch Saturday nights. I bought season 1 of Rhoda which I never saw so i'll probably start that one the following weekend.

[Christopher]

I heard season 1 of Rhoda is syndicated cuts. The following are uncut. I think a show you all should watch is Desperate Housewives cfr, you missed out on some of the great stories for that show. Season 2 got really dark and twisted for Bree. Season 8 is my favorite because it’s dark, suspenseful, and most of all Bree is the center of attention It’s very similar to The Facts of Life or The Golden Girls about a bunch of women friends going through life. They also have great guest stars for the story arcs. Dixie Carter was on the season 3 mystery arc and did a superb job as the villain. I’m just throwing it out there, it’s a funny dramedy with a great cast

Alison became a drunk before Kimberly blew up the apartment complex. Her drinking started after Keith but no one noticed. It gradually escalated to season 3 when she blew off Jo’s custody hearing because of the guy she was running around with. They got her sober in the middle of season 3, but she fell off the wagon over Billy and Brooke getting married. That’s when she was drunk at the end of the season getting blinded by the explosion. That season was so adventurous with all these turns. Sydney joining the cult with former porn star Traci Lords gets an honorable nod from me as well

But back to what I was saying, people can become alcoholics in different ways. I think Reba was showing us the uncommon quiet way a person can become dependent on alcohol.

[cfr1970]

Originally Posted by Christopher

I heard season 1 of Rhoda is syndicated cuts. The following are uncut. I think a show you all should watch is Desperate Housewives cfr, you missed out on some of the great stories for that show. Season 2 got really dark and twisted for Bree. Season 8 is my favorite because it’s dark, suspenseful, and most of all Bree is the center of attention It’s very similar to The Facts of Life or The Golden Girls about a bunch of women friends going through life. They also have great guest stars for the story arcs. Dixie Carter was on the season 3 mystery arc and did a superb job as the villain. I’m just throwing it out there, it’s a funny dramedy with a great cast

I tuned out of DH after season 2 but would check in here and there and saw bits of Dixie Carter because I like her. But for the most part, all I know is the first season of that show.
I tuned in because of Marcia Cross and I think the first season was good, but then I became bored and tuned out. It didn't help that the only one I liked of those women was Marcia Cross---those other 3 I never warmed up to.
And after hearing about Felicity Huffman and the college scandal, i'm not too thrilled at the thought of having her on my TV screen. I despise people like that but that's for another forum altogether.
That said, I won't rule out not giving the show a try sometime in the future.

Originally Posted by Christopher

Alison became a drunk before Kimberly blew up the apartment complex. Her drinking started after Keith but no one noticed. It gradually escalated to season 3 when she blew off Jo’s custody hearing because of the guy she was running around with. They got her sober in the middle of season 3, but she fell off the wagon over Billy and Brooke getting married. That’s when she was drunk at the end of the season getting blinded by the explosion. That season was so adventurous with all these turns. Sydney joining the cult with former porn star Traci Lords gets an honorable nod from me as well

It's over 25 years ago, but I clearly remember that scene where Alison was drunk and missed Jo's custody hearing and it caused her to lose the child. I remember when Jo ripped into her for that and how terrible Alison felt about it. Her alcoholism story line was really great and it unfolded and evolved nicely. I know Reba is only a half hour sitcom, but I wish Cheyenne would've been shown to the audience as having a problem with minor signs shown here and there rather than having it all dropped in our laps at once.

And the whole cult story of MP was another favorite. That whole season was the high peak of the series imo.

Originally Posted by Christopher

But back to what I was saying, people can become alcoholics in different ways. I think Reba was showing us the uncommon quiet way a person can become dependent on alcohol.

I agree with that, but they didn't portray Cheyenne as being a person with a dependency and that's the writer's fault. Cheyenne clearly said to Van it took her 2 months to finish off a bottle of Schnapps, which is like the weakest liquor. That hardly qualifies as a dependency imo.

If Reba found more than 1 bottle in the closet then it would've given more credence to the story. I understand dependency is a gradual thing that starts slow and escalates over time.

One bottle of Schnapps and everyone is ready to ship her off to AA. It was almost laughable. I love the show, but they dropped the ball in telling this story imo.

Now if she falls off the wagon in season 5 and has episodes of drunkenness that begins to affect her life, then i'll buy it more. But if season 5 opens with her just being in AA and staying sober then it's all laughable to me because we never saw the character with a real drinking problem.

I'm not saying any of this without experience. Back in my 30's I would down a 1.75 liter of vodka in just 2 days! And then go back for more! And that went on for at least a couple of years before I got through the personal crisis that was leading me to do that. So I know a little about alcohol dependency.

I think Reba dropped the ball on this story and as I stated earlier, it feels like it was just tacked on to have a dramatic season finale rather than wanting to tell a story about drinking.

I won't hold it against the show and just chalk it up to a creative slump.

[Lorimar Television]

The schnapps was her excuse though, she claims it was just schnapps but at the end we can deduce it was more than just that. Ik you wanted to see her drunk like at the end of Girls Night Out in s3 though.

Originally Posted by Christopher

Wow, really? You think season 6 is better? Maybe we need a new thread to discuss this Just kidding. I can wait until cfr is done watching it so we can all discuss at once He's only got 35 episodes left to watch of the series. That'll go by fast.

I do! I think s6 has storylines a show can only have in its final season or it would mess the plot too much to stretch the series longer. BJ sees alot of growth in s6 for instance. But still wanna keep it vague for cfr lol.

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by Lorimar Television

I do! I think s6 has storylines a show can only have in its final season or it would mess the plot too much to stretch the series longer. BJ sees alot of growth in s6 for instance. But still wanna keep it vague for cfr lol.

Yeah BJ is one of the things I want to discuss when cfr is finished with season 6.

Originally Posted by cfr1970

I tuned out of DH after season 2 but would check in here and there and saw bits of Dixie Carter because I like her. But for the most part, all I know is the first season of that show.
I tuned in because of Marcia Cross and I think the first season was good, but then I became bored and tuned out. It didn't help that the only one I liked of those women was Marcia Cross---those other 3 I never warmed up to.
And after hearing about Felicity Huffman and the college scandal, i'm not too thrilled at the thought of having her on my TV screen. I despise people like that but that's for another forum altogether.
That said, I won't rule out not giving the show a try sometime in the future.

Did you stay long enough in season 2 to see the George story end or Carol Burnett making an appearance as Bree's mother in law? Season 2 was mainly focused on Bree and that's why I like it more than season 1. Marcia Cross is the reason I stuck with the show because she was brilliant as Bree. I didn't care for season 5. Of all 8 seasons, that is the season where the women are so different than how we saw them. It was boring. Her character in the remaining seasons was solid. In season 8, another Bree season, it's just so fast pace and jam packed with excitement. I was sad to see the show end but it went out showing they can still entertain viewers with good material.

One thing about Felicity Huffman though is she took responsibility unlike Lori from Full House. Felicity owned her mistake and didn't fight prison time. Lori was a selfish coward who tried fighting it every time. This is why Felicity's actions don't ruin my rewatch of Desperate Housewives. She knew she screwed up. I hope that kind of helps with your decision on watching it again since you despise those kind of people

Originally Posted by cfr1970

It's over 25 years ago, but I clearly remember that scene where Alison was drunk and missed Jo's custody hearing and it caused her to lose the child. I remember when Jo ripped into her for that and how terrible Alison felt about it. Her alcoholism story line was really great and it unfolded and evolved nicely. I know Reba is only a half hour sitcom, but I wish Cheyenne would've been shown to the audience as having a problem with minor signs shown here and there rather than having it all dropped in our laps at once.

And the whole cult story of MP was another favorite. That whole season was the high peak of the series imo.

Yay, 25 years ago we're acknowledging here

Alison wasn't a favorite of mine because she was so damn obsessed over Billy and trying to be a goody two shoes all the time. Her story in the first half of season 3 was really good. I also liked her with Hayley, Brooke's father, in season 4.

Most alcoholics start in silence though. Alison's drinking on Melrose Place started after Keith but no one paid attention. She would come in and pour a glass of vodka every time something went wrong in her life. Cheyenne may have done the same thing only not telling anyone about it. In that finale, Cheyenne told Reba she's really good about being an alcoholic because she could keep the drinking from everyone knowing. This established Cheyenne was dishonest and sneaky to everyone that season.

Originally Posted by cfr1970

I agree with that, but they didn't portray Cheyenne as being a person with a dependency and that's the writer's fault. Cheyenne clearly said to Van it took her 2 months to finish off a bottle of Schnapps, which is like the weakest liquor. That hardly qualifies as a dependency imo.

If Reba found more than 1 bottle in the closet then it would've given more credence to the story. I understand dependency is a gradual thing that starts slow and escalates over time.

One bottle of Schnapps and everyone is ready to ship her off to AA. It was almost laughable. I love the show, but they dropped the ball in telling this story imo.

Now if she falls off the wagon in season 5 and has episodes of drunkenness that begins to affect her life, then i'll buy it more. But if season 5 opens with her just being in AA and staying sober then it's all laughable to me because we never saw the character with a real drinking problem.

I'm not saying any of this without experience. Back in my 30's I would down a 1.75 liter of vodka in just 2 days! And then go back for more! And that went on for at least a couple of years before I got through the personal crisis that was leading me to do that. So I know a little about alcohol dependency.

I think Reba dropped the ball on this story and as I stated earlier, it feels like it was just tacked on to have a dramatic season finale rather than wanting to tell a story about drinking.

I won't hold it against the show and just chalk it up to a creative slump.

Yeah as you mentioned prior, Reba is a light hearted show so they didn't portray Cheyenne to those levels of alcoholism. If you watch Mom, another great series, you can see something like that though Mom really goes dark into those levels of addictions and the consequences of those choices.

[cfr1970]

Originally Posted by Christopher

Did you stay long enough in season 2 to see the George story end or Carol Burnett making an appearance as Bree's mother in law? Season 2 was mainly focused on Bree and that's why I like it more than season 1. Marcia Cross is the reason I stuck with the show because she was brilliant as Bree. I didn't care for season 5. Of all 8 seasons, that is the season where the women are so different than how we saw them. It was boring. Her character in the remaining seasons was solid. In season 8, another Bree season, it's just so fast pace and jam packed with excitement. I was sad to see the show end but it went out showing they can still entertain viewers with good material.

I don't recall Carol Burnett being on that show so I must have tuned out by then. I know I watched the whole first season and afterwards would turn it on here and there. I too originally tuned into the show for Marcia Cross and liked her character.
I guess I just never cared much for the other 3 women and probably why I eventually tuned out.

Originally Posted by Christopher

One thing about Felicity Huffman though is she took responsibility unlike Lori from Full House. Felicity owned her mistake and didn't fight prison time. Lori was a selfish coward who tried fighting it every time. This is why Felicity's actions don't ruin my rewatch of Desperate Housewives. She knew she screwed up. I hope that kind of helps with your decision on watching it again since you despise those kind of people

What did she do, like a month in a Hollywood prison? Oh poor thing!

Her owning up to what she did doesn't impress me. IMO she knew what she was doing and using her clout to take advantage of the system while shortchanging others who could've been accepted to the school on merit.

People like that make me sick, and it will be a long time before I tune into the show because every time I see her face it will just remind me of it and anger me. Other people shouldn't have to pay because her daughter is too stupid to get accepted into college on merit. What she did speaks volumes about her both as a parent and a human being.

Originally Posted by Christopher

, 25 years ago we're acknowledging here
Alison wasn't a favorite of mine because she was so damn obsessed over Billy and trying to be a goody two shoes all the time. Her story in the first half of season 3 was really good. I also liked her with Hayley, Brooke's father, in season 4.
Most alcoholics start in silence though. Alison's drinking on Melrose Place started after Keith but no one paid attention. She would come in and pour a glass of vodka every time something went wrong in her life. Cheyenne may have done the same thing only not telling anyone about it. In that finale, Cheyenne told Reba she's really good about being an alcoholic because she could keep the drinking from everyone knowing. This established Cheyenne was dishonest and sneaky to everyone that season.

But it also establishes that her drinking was really a glass here and there and never to the point of being visibly drunk. IMO what she was doing was the same thing they all were doing in BJ's kitchen with the wine, only Cheyenne was doing it by herself.

I get they were trying to say she's a closet alcoholic, but the way they told it didn't compute with me. Had Cheyenne been tipsy at the Karaoke bar when Reba sang 9 to 5, then there's a sign showing beforehand that would make the audience believe the story. But she was stone cold sober...in a BAR!!

So to suddenly turn her into this alcoholic in the next episode is too strange. The whole storyline seemed rushed and done in haste in order to stick it in the finale and have a cliffhanger imo.

Originally Posted by Christopher

Yeah as you mentioned prior, Reba is a light hearted show so they didn't portray Cheyenne to those levels of alcoholism. If you watch Mom, another great series, you can see something like that though Mom really goes dark into those levels of addictions and the consequences of those choices.

See, Mom started off being a heavy handed show and why I loved it from the get go. It established itself as a dark comedy/drama from the start which is why those stories work much better than on lighthearted Reba. Reba doing it is like having Chrissy from Threes Company developing a drinking problem and hilarity ensues.

Mom's writing and acting is phenomenal but I tuned out after the 2nd season and by the time I was interested in tuning back in, I missed a whole lot and I hate jumping back into a show after missing big chunks especially sicne this is a show that has continuous story lines.

So I have to just wait now until the series is over and buy the complete series and do with that show what i'm doing with Reba. I think it's going into it's 8th season this fall if it comes back during the pandemic. So there will be a lot of episodes to keep me entertained....I just have to wait until they finish the series which will probably be a while since it's still a big hit I think.

[cfr1970]

Was Barbara Jean pregnant in season 5? I'm on the second episode and she looks 9 months pregnant!! Was the actress pregnant when filming it? It looks so obvious.

And they made Cheyenne's bedroom closet the entryway to her bedroom. Why did they do that?! It used to be on the right side of the stage, now it's where the closet was.

[cfr1970]

Watched the first 3 episodes of Season 5:

1. "Where There's Smoke"----Oh good lord what a silly and dumb episode. Not a good sign for a season opener....I see shark fins in the waters.
Cheyenne is in her 12 step program for taking 2 months to finish a bottle of Schnapps. However, she admits that she stopped going because they "Cheyenne" her with a little bell to signal that she shut the hell up because she rambles on about shopping, fashion and American Idol while speaking to the alcoholics.

If this girl seriously had a drinking problem, she would NOT be doing that no matter how flaky she is. This really shows me the intelligence level of the writers and how inept they are at handling such a serious subject.

This whole story line is so absurd that I was glad to see it resolved and by episode 3 barely mentioned again. I knew it was just a tacked on season finale and wouldn't be seriously told in the following season.

But moving on to other atrocities. In place of her dropped AA meetings for her Schnapps addiction, Cheyenne decides that pills and smoking will help her craving for sweet, candy flavored liquor.

We actually see her light up and smoke...and not only her. They toss in a side story of Brock sensually inhaling his cigarette like it's giving him the best orgasm of his life. It's a stupid subplot because it makes it seem like he's just smoking because he sees his addictive daughter doing it.

So rather than help her...he goes to the corner store and buys a pack of puffs for himself. Nice!

But this train wreck of an episode gets even worse if you can believe it! The pills Cheyenne takes are meant to make one "violently ill" if you drink alcohol after popping it. (Why on earth would anybody take such a thing?! Even if you don't plan to drink.....WHY?!)

Anyway....Reba goes through Cheyenne's purse and i'm already dreading a really bad Lucy-esque, scenery chewing debacle to occur after Reba swallows one.

Thankfully, we're avoided that hilarity ensuing....but Van, who knows about these pills....doesn't stop Reba from taking them! Reba comes home to prepare for an alcohol filled party for realtors and Van doesn't warn her what the pills are for because he doesn't want Reba to know Cheyenne's taking them.

So---he chooses instead to jeopardize Reba's health?! It's so stupid it's unbelievable!....AND it gets worse!....Yes, it really does!!

During the party, Van is such an imbecile that he starts taking Reba's drinks and downing them himself. At one point he chugs vodka straight from the bottle like it's water rather than pouring it out over the sink he's standing next to!

He admits earlier he downed Scotch...and we see him down red wine...and then a bottle of beer....that alone would make him super sick and pass out---yet he keeps going. I know from experience that you DON'T mix those kind of drinks together in an evening.

Then Reba finally gets her hands on a glass of wine and gets ready to give her speech/toast to her party. Neither Van or Cheyenne step forward to tell her the the danger of drinking it with the pill inside her and just stand there like idiots while she takes a swig!!

It's beyond belief that they would allow her to do this knowing the consequences with the pill in her system. It's almost evil that neither of them stop her and come clean.

Afterwards, Cheyenne tries to turn the whole thing into something Reba will laugh at later on. I don't think she will because it's too serious to be funny. What if her reaction brought her to the ER?!

I was glad when it was over...definitely without a doubt the absolute worst episode of the entire series. I hated it.

And why on earth did they change Cheyenne & Van's bedroom layout?! Turning the closet door into the entrance to the room is baffling as all hell. There has to be a logical reason for this change?!

2. "Reba and the One"---We're finally brought back to Earth and things back to normal in the next episode. I liked this one where Reba wants to get away from the house for some time to spend with herself under the guise of having a new boyfriend since BJ egged her on to this dating service Reba had no interest in. But it was a good cover to get away from all those clowns and have some needed downtime for herself.
It was a classic Reba episode and I enjoyed the end scene where everyone came to catch Reba with her "date" and hilarity ensued.
I'm noticing BJ is looking 9 months pregnant under the loose shawl she's wearing. I know she's a big gal, but it looks pretty obvious she's with child here...I'm thinking the actress was pregnant and it reminds me of the Nanny when the woman who played CC was pregnant, and they did nothing to hide it.

3. "As Is" ---I liked this one too and vaguely remember it from years ago in syndication. I like that Reba & Van are working together as realtors and Van in the end of this episode showed surprising clarity and maturity which is unlike him.
This is an example of the uneven writing. At times Van is dumber than Chrissy Snow and Rose Nylund combined, but others he's pretty intelligent. You can't go back and forth like this imo, because the inconsistency is distracting. I'm left thinking "When did Van grow a brain?!"

Kyra was startling to see. She looks shockingly anorexic in this episode that I literally gasped when they showed her sitting on the couch in the living room. She looked sick and they didn't show too much of her.
I'm wondering if the actress really was going through something like that because the change from season 4 is glaring.

And BJ sitting in the car for the whole episode pretty much confirms my pregnancy suspicions to hide her tummy.

I remember the whole bit with the computer voice in the car from when I watched it years ago, and it seems this was all they could come up with to have her shown only from the shoulders up.

So after an atrocious season opener, the next 2 episodes got the train back on track and the shark fins went back under the water....for now.

Will watch the next 4 episodes tomorrow night.

[Lorimar Television]

Originally Posted by cfr1970

Was Barbara Jean pregnant in season 5? I'm on the second episode and she looks 9 months pregnant!! Was the actress pregnant when filming it? It looks so obvious.

And they made Cheyenne's bedroom closet the entryway to her bedroom. Why did they do that?! It used to be on the right side of the stage, now it's where the closet was.

Yes Melissa is pregnant in the beginning of s5.

I have no idea why they switched the entrance but that was the last ep that shows their bedroom anyway.

[Lorimar Television]

Originally Posted by cfr1970

So after an atrocious season opener, the next 2 episodes got the train back on track and the shark fins went back under the water....for now.

Will watch the next 4 episodes tomorrow night.

Glad you enjoyed eps 2 and 3, sorry you didn't enjoy the premiere. Sadly thats the only ep to feature the whole cast in s5. You are correct about Kyra, her actress was battling anorexia and only filmed 2 eps in s5. As Is was filmed second but shown third and is Kyra's last ep til s6 while she got treated for her eating disorder.

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by Lorimar Television

You are correct about Kyra, her actress was battling anorexia and only filmed 2 eps in s5. As Is was filmed second but shown third and is Kyra's last ep til s6 while she got treated for her eating disorder.

Since this was mentioned, I'm going to add to this. I hated that they made jokes of Scarlett's anorexia in season 6. That was so insensitive to the people who battle eating disorders. The whole, "I just went to go get something to eat" line she keeps saying in the first episode wasn't funny. They should think about others before trying to get a few laughs off an illness that could cause someone to die from.

[cfr1970]

Originally Posted by Lorimar Television

Glad you enjoyed eps 2 and 3, sorry you didn't enjoy the premiere. Sadly thats the only ep to feature the whole cast in s5. You are correct about Kyra, her actress was battling anorexia and only filmed 2 eps in s5. As Is was filmed second but shown third and is Kyra's last ep til s6 while she got treated for her eating disorder.

Wow, I had no idea she was really going through that. I'm sure it was in the media but not being a Reba fan back then I never knew. Her look is startling so it must have been bad.

Did the actress ever talk openly about what led her to having the disorder? I wonder if it was Hollywood related and being in front of the camera that put pressure on her to be thin. I hope she successfully overcame it.

Originally Posted by Christopher

Since this was mentioned, I'm going to add to this. I hated that they made jokes of Scarlett's anorexia in season 6. That was so insensitive to the people who battle eating disorders. The whole, "I just went to go get something to eat" line she keeps saying in the first episode wasn't funny. They should think about others before trying to get a few laughs off an illness that could cause someone to die from.

I haven't seen the episode and while I do agree it's insensitive of the writers, I would think the actress would have given her ok on saying it. I think if she found it insensitive she would have objected. But you say "jokes"---so does that mean there's even more jokes about it after that?! Or just that one time?

I think it would've been a good idea to incorporate her experience into the show. But after seeing how silly they depicted alcoholism, perhaps it's better that they didn't.

But to get laughs out of it is tacky. She looked so unhealthy in the episode I watched last night I gasped, and it's not something I would laugh at. Do they explain her absence during the rest of the season?

[Christopher]

Originally Posted by cfr1970

I haven't seen the episode and while I do agree it's insensitive of the writers, I would think the actress would have given her ok on saying it. I think if she found it insensitive she would have objected. But you say "jokes"---so does that mean there's even more jokes about it after that?! Or just that one time?

I think it would've been a good idea to incorporate her experience into the show. But after seeing how silly they depicted alcoholism, perhaps it's better that they didn't.

But to get laughs out of it is tacky. She looked so unhealthy in the episode I watched last night I gasped, and it's not something I would laugh at. Do they explain her absence during the rest of the season?

I only remember the first episode when she walks in and they’re like, “where have you been?” and she’s like, “I went to go get something to eat”. One of the times they mention that on her, because it’s more than once, Van says, “see you next year” I thought it was disrespectful to the condition Scarlett and others go through with the illness.

I would have preferred they make it serious too and educate viewers on anorexia. I felt Scarlett had nothing for character growth through the series. Her absence is not mention in season 5. They probably didn’t know if she would be back.