Candice Bergen Recalls Dan Quayle Controversy

[MrCleveland]

Originally Posted by Yong Fang

Dan Quayle was a DUMBASS. Seriously, probably the dumbest, most clueless, lame high level public official ever. At least Sarah Palin is hot. I think collectively when that started was "There goes Vice President Dumbass talking again..." and moved on.

It is not a general disrespect for politicians. I hate Obama but the man is very intelligent. Again, Dan Quayle was a complete dumbass potatoe brained moron and to this day do not understand why the people of Indiana elected the dumbass.

Dan Quayle quotes.....

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."

"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."

"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'"

"Welcome to President Bush, Mrs. Bush, and my fellow astronauts."

"Mars is essentially in the same orbit . . . Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe."

"The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century."

"I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and democracy -- but that could change."

"Add one little bit on the end... Think of 'potato', how's it spelled? You're right phonetically, but what else...? There ya' go... all right!" --"correcting" a student's correct spelling of the word "potato" during a spelling bee at an elementary school (he told the student to add an "e" at the end

"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."

"The future will be better tomorrow."

"We're going to have the best-educated American people in the world."

"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history."

"We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe."

"I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican."

"I love California, I practically grew up in Phoenix."

"It's wonderful to be here in the great state of Chicago."

"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."

"When I have been asked during these last weeks who caused the riots and the killing in L.A., my answer has been direct and simple: Who is to blame for the riots? The rioters are to blame. Who is to blame for the killings? The killers are to blame."

"Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it."

"We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur."

"For NASA, space is still a high priority."

"Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children."

"It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it."

"[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system."

"The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that Dan Quayle may or may not make."

"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things."

"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made."

Seriously, the man is as dumb as a bag of hammers.

Hmm...Quayle had more Bushisms than GWB ever did!

Should we call it Quayleisms?

Well...Candice's dad is Edgar Bergen (who's funnier than Jeff Dunham anytime) and she was raised in California...what'd you expect from a Californian from the west coast? (Nothing against the coastal Californians, but they're MORE progressive than the rest of the state...and if I ever make it big...I'd rather have a temp house in California and stay in Northeast Ohio)!

[king of comedy]

Originally Posted by Yong Fang

Candice Bergen was too butch for me. Ugh, her voice. She got pregnant? How drunk was the father of the kid?

Liked the dude who was always working on her house but was never finished, and the Jewish guy who was the producer and the stiff anchorman guy. The 1990's was a bad fog for me then.

Murphy was very unlikeable.

[biffbronson]

Now that Yong Fang has attempted to destroy Quayle in every way he could think of, he may be astonished to find out that Quayle was actually a well-respected and HIGHLY EFFECTIVE politician in Indiana. Your attacks have nothing to do with the fact that he got things done for the state, and in an honest way. Before you imply that the people of Indiana were idiots to elect him, you might want to try checking into his record there. The biggest problem with attacking people for miscues and misspellings is that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PERSON'S CHARACTER AND COMPETENCY IN HIS JOB. If you want to call someone a dumbass, look no further than Obama and Biden -- the former a disgrace, the latter an outright LIAR.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by Yong Fang

Candice Bergen was too butch for me. Ugh, her voice. She got pregnant? How drunk was the father of the kid?

Liked the dude who was always working on her house but was never finished, and the Jewish guy who was the producer and the stiff anchorman guy. The 1990's was a bad fog for me then.

I read one complaint that heard is Candice Bergen acts too much w/ her neck! I've also heard the argument that when Candice Bergen had to do something acting-wise besides being loud and bossy (and more than often, she tended to PUNCH the lines OVER and OVER) as Murphy, she actually came across as rather wooden and one-note.

The thing about the supporting characters on Murphy Brown is that it's quite easy to see that they were at least at first, very specific albeit, stereotypical: Shallow airhead Corky; stuffy anchor man Jim; geeky, neurotic pisher Miles, etc.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by king of comedy

Murphy getting pregnant ruined the show.

I think one of the biggest problems w/ making Murphy a mother is that it's a safe argument that her son (after pretty much becoming a pawn in the debate w/ the then Vice President of the United States over the importance of fathers) soon became dead-weight. They couldn't really do anything else overly political or socially relevant w/ him because they would've possibly risked proving Dan Quayle right.

[king of comedy]

Originally Posted by TMC

I read one complaint that heard is Candice Bergen acts too much w/ her neck! I've also heard the argument that when Candice Bergen had to do something acting-wise besides being loud and bossy (and more than often, she tended to PUNCH the lines OVER and OVER) as Murphy, she actually came across as rather wooden and one-note.

The thing about the supporting characters on Murphy Brown is that it's quite easy to see that they were at least at first, very specific albeit, stereotypical: Shallow airhead Corky; stuffy anchor man Jim; geeky, neurotic pisher Miles, etc.

You got everything right. No wonder this show hasn't aged well.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by king of comedy

You got everything right. No wonder this show hasn't aged well.

The thing that I've also noticed is that more often than not, the writers' way of making a punchline is to have the characters name drop a then relevant pop culture figure/newsmaker. It just comes across as a much more sophisticated variant of those "Seltzer-Friedberg" spoof movies of recent years.

[Yong Fang]

Me again. Dan Quayle was a dumbass. The guy just was. In 1992, there were calls within the party to get rid of Quayle, but just could not. Bush was behind in the polls and Quayle dragged it down further.

The man was an idiot. He had connections which got him where he was. Bush was elected because Reagan was still popular and Bush basically won what Reagan would have won of he could be elected for a third term. A recession caught Bush at the wrong time and he lost office to a younger, more dynamic man.

Quayle was the commencement speaker at my college graduation. My mom talked to me as a teenager to not to make noise at his speech. I did not.

I apologize about the Jewish reference I made. I watched Murphy Brown when it was on. Not a bad show. Not that great either. This was the last years of pre internet. I am also anti abortion, so I have some props for a last minute pre menopause Murphy Brown having a baby. Republicans are anti abortion, but we have this nitwit Quayle talking crap about a "single mother". So what is it, abortion or single motherhood? Make up your mind.

Quayle was a nitwit. The people of Indiana are nitwits for electing this clown.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by Yong Fang

Me again. Dan Quayle was a dumbass. The guy just was. In 1992, there were calls within the party to get rid of Quayle, but just could not. Bush was behind in the polls and Quayle dragged it down further.

The man was an idiot. He had connections which got him where he was. Bush was elected because Reagan was still popular and Bush basically won what Reagan would have won of he could be elected for a third term. A recession caught Bush at the wrong time and he lost office to a younger, more dynamic man.

Quayle was the commencement speaker at my college graduation. My mom talked to me as a teenager to not to make noise at his speech. I did not.

I apologize about the Jewish reference I made. I watched Murphy Brown when it was on. Not a bad show. Not that great either. This was the last years of pre internet. I am also anti abortion, so I have some props for a last minute pre menopause Murphy Brown having a baby. Republicans are anti abortion, but we have this nitwit Quayle talking crap about a "single mother". So what is it, abortion or single motherhood? Make up your mind.

Quayle was a nitwit. The people of Indiana are nitwits for electing this clown.

Reading into the old Jump the Shark website about Murphy Brown, some commenters argued that Bill Clinton in a weird way, may have actually helped hurt the show because it now lost a lot of its "partisan edge".

[Mr. Television]

Originally Posted by Yong Fang

Me again. Dan Quayle was a dumbass. The guy just was. In 1992, there were calls within the party to get rid of Quayle, but just could not. Bush was behind in the polls and Quayle dragged it down further.

The man was an idiot. He had connections which got him where he was. Bush was elected because Reagan was still popular and Bush basically won what Reagan would have won of he could be elected for a third term. A recession caught Bush at the wrong time and he lost office to a younger, more dynamic man.

Quayle was the commencement speaker at my college graduation. My mom talked to me as a teenager to not to make noise at his speech. I did not.

I apologize about the Jewish reference I made. I watched Murphy Brown when it was on. Not a bad show. Not that great either. This was the last years of pre internet. I am also anti abortion, so I have some props for a last minute pre menopause Murphy Brown having a baby. Republicans are anti abortion, but we have this nitwit Quayle talking crap about a "single mother". So what is it, abortion or single motherhood? Make up your mind.

Quayle was a nitwit. The people of Indiana are nitwits for electing this clown.

Well I did vote for Quayle for Vice-President so I must be a nitwit too.

[biffbronson]

Can we have a moderator move this crap to the Politics board where it belongs? The only true nitwit in question is the one who falls for Liberal tactics of trying to make the runningmate look bad. Dumb jackass.

[Furienna]

The big problem with this to me is that Dan Quayle seems to have missed a lot of what was going on the show. Murphy had been abandoned by the baby's father, who didn't seem to care one bit about it. And at the time, she was fortytwo years old, which a lot of people feel is too late to have a baby. And yet, she chose to not have an abortion! I mean, would Quayle really have preferred if Murphy had an abortion?

[king of comedy]

Would it been better if Corky got pregnant instead of Murphy?

[TMC]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094514/news#ni57894445

20 October 2014 10:45 AM, PDT | VH1.com

-Aly Semigran

November 14 will mark 26 years since the CBS sitcom Murphy Brown hit the airwaves. The series, which ran for 10 seasons and won 18 Emmy Awards (including a record-breaking five Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series wins for star Candice Bergen), also happened to be at the forefront of a political firestorm in its heyday. A show about a 40-something single mother and career woman (!) touched such a nerve that the Vice President of the United States singled out the show as an example of the decay of family values in America.

During a campaign speech on May 19, 1992, then-vp Dan Quayle stated, “Failing to support children one has fathered is wrong. We must be unequivocal about this. It doesn’t help matters when primetime TV has Murphy Brown, a character who supposedly epitomizes today’s intelligent, highly paid professional woman, mocking the importance of fathers by bearing a child alone »

- VH1

[king of comedy]

Corky should have gotten pregnant not Murphy. I could see her as a mother.