Tommy Gibsons's body still missing despite father's conviction

[RobinW]

Since Larry Gibson's post-conviction country music career is discussed in this thread, I thought I'd give it a little bump.

I can't post the direct links here, but if you're curious about Mr. Gibson's musical abilities, you can watch videos of him performing at the forbidden video site. Just type in his name and looks for a series of videos from a user named "westco2995" and you'll see plenty of footage of Larry playing guitar and singing country music on stage. He has a white beard and looks a LOT older now, but once you hear his voice, you'll unmistakably know it's him.

It probably will not shock any of you to learn that comments have been disabled for those videos since I'm sure Larry doesn't want anyone bringing up his checked past.

[johan183]

He also owns the domain computerfighter.com...

Registrant:
Broadwater Computer Services
Box 996
Townsend, MONTANA 59644
US

Domain name: COMPUTERFIGHTER.COM


Administrative Contact:
Gibson, Larry larry@computerfighter.com
Box 996
Townsend, MONTANA 59644
US
406-266-3946 Fax: 406-266-3486

From the site..
Broadwater Computer Service provides complete computer repair and service throughout Montana and Idaho.

Also:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-gibson/2/716/b04

A man of many talents.... musician, computer expert..

[TracyLynnS]

What a messed up case. Tommy would be about the same age as my son, 24 years old.

I think I have to go with the majority and say that Larry Gibson is responsible, as much as I hate to think that a parent could kill their own sweet child (accidentally or on purpose) and then roughly dispose of the body, denying the innocent baby a decent burial. Just disgusting and disturbing on so many levels.

I've been watching this segment, hadn't seen it in a LONG time. Who the heck shoots a stray cat in the deep woods, one shot, and then immediately goes from cat killer to responsible environmentalist by searching for the one shell casing to avoid littering?

Him admitting that he looked for that one casing makes me think it was involved in Tommy's death (shell casing was evidence) and had nothing to do with shooting a cat. He could have probably killed a cat later to make his story look more believable. I just don't get the point of shooting a cat and then trying to recover the shell casing.

I do have to say that the abduction scenario is interesting, considering that this happened the same year that Jaycee Dugard was pulled into a passing vehicle 3 months after Tommy went missing. If Tommy's abduction was a lie, it couldn't have been inspired by Jaycee's case, but it certainly has similarities: A man and a woman pulling up close to the kid's home and committing the abduction in the daytime with witnesses.

[economistman192]

Originally Posted by supersally1974

I had a crab that i couldn't find in my aquarium and I was there searching and searching and searching. That stupid little F****** was wedged up inside a rock decoration!!!!

My first time posting ever !
We had a lot of fish disappearing in our tank. When cleaning out the filter, we found a small platy (still alive) after a week.

The Gibson case is a very contrived one. What really strikes me is how aloof both the mom and dad are.[/QUOTE]
There was some point in the episode where the mother says something like, "The police question everything I say and look for inconsistencies..." and it's like, "Sure they do, honey, that's called POLICE WORK." I felt that she was protecting her husband, consciously or unconsciously because she didn't want to face the truth - I'm sure this wasn't the first time he had gone too far and of course the daughter was scared of him. Maybe she didn't feel safe telling until they weren't living together any more. Sad case.

[economistman192]

Originally Posted by Clockworkhigh

I've talked to Larry before. No kidding. He IS the same person as the country music star which is what people have bee saying. So I sent him a message a while back via Facebook or Myspace (have to look it up) and told him I recognized him from the UM segment. I asked him if there was any news with Tommy.

He still claims he hopes Tommy is alive and maybe someday joins the army or gets arrested so that he can be fingerprinted and discovered. He claims no one proved him wrong about his own theories (I assume Tommy going missing by the abductors?). Now his wife split up with him (I always thought that if she dolled herself up she'd look pretty good) and she took custody of the girls. Despite going to jail based on his daugther's sketchy testimony he states as they have grown up he has a great relationship with the girls now.

So, to be honest I think he's pretty receptive if someone would drop him a line. He sent a message within hours back to me and he never knew me. But he does seem to have a wealth of fans at least in that area.

Bottom line I feel is that Larry is in denial about what he did to Tommy or the world owes him a HUGE apology for our accusations.

Unless you are a complete sociopath, I wonder how you can wake up every morning, knowing that you killed someone and you can never change that.

I think maybe it is easier for people who do it by accident. I think men who accidentally kill their children while disciplining them, blame the children for not being made of the stronger stuff. A child that young could have their neck broken from a slap by a very strong man, or could fall back and/or hit their head on something. I can totally see him killing Tommy accidentally for disobeying and telling the daughter when he realized Tommy was dead that he was going to take him to the doctor only she noticed that he put him in the trunk of the car instead of the backseat. Speculation, but it feels right.

[economistman192]

Originally Posted by Apostapler

His wife is my guess.

Scratch that, doesn't make any sense that she would then defend him on the show.

Perhaps a family member? It's a hard guess, since they lived in a fairly wooded, secluded area. Maybe a neighbor nearby who was a witness but afraid to come forward? Since we've never read the note, for all we know, "Spot in the Road" could have had some sort of bogus scenario that wasn't true but was conjecture on the part of the writer. That's why I want to read it as badly as you, CD.

It might also have been a police officer or someone who was afraid to come forward because they were frightened of him. Someone who knew he was lying - I'm curious who gave him the polygraph test....

[economistman192]

I think we all know you convict someone of a crime because of their affect in a TV interview. But when I watch this segment, something is definitely off in both parents. When Larry talks about going to the rest stop to see if Tommy is there, he says something like, "I didn't find him there in any condition...." What does that mean, dead or alive?

His son hasn't been found, which for most parents who lead to increasing panic and horror, and he decides to go to work even though his supervisor tells him he doesn't have to come in. So basically his supervisor cares more about his son's welfare than he does? My feeling is that he had to get that squad car out of their before the police dogs showed up and began sniffing and leading everyone to the trunk of the car. And why did he have to get into his uniform and go to work that day anyway? That doesn't seem like the kind of town that is going to descend into chaos if one officer takes the day off to look for his son -which Larry says he began to do anyway, so why did he have to go into work and let strangers find his son. The later on that night, he calls off the search party.

I think that some of these men get on UM thinking that will "read" better than the do for the viewing audience, not knowing that the camera, just like it can pick up bad acting, can also act as a sort of polygraph test as well and people can psychically feel that something is not right. Larry goes on saying over and over, "There is no fact to prove my daughter is lying, there is no fact to prove I had anything to do with this..." things to that effect, almost challenging someone to find out that he is lying. I think "Spot in the Road" was one of his wife's relatives, who was used to the issues of abuse in that family, but didn't want to go on record for fear of what might happen if Larry wasn't arresting.

[RobinW]

Originally Posted by johan183

Also:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-gibson/2/716/b04

A man of many talents.... musician, computer expert..

Just had a look at that Linkedin profile and saw a gap of quite a few years after his stint as Deputy Sheriff in Oregon. Gee, I wonder why...

[RobinW]

Okay, I re-watched this segment recently and there was one detail I'd never noticed before: Larry Gibson's brother was apparently at the house at the time Tommy went missing. In the re-enactment where Larry returns from his jog and asks where Tommy is, you can see another adult male sitting down in the house. Soon afterward, you hear Larry briefly mention in his interview that his wife and brother had no idea where Tommy was and went searching for him.

This is the only mention we hear of Larry's brother in the entire segment, but if he was there that day, it's somewhat surprising he wouldn't appear on UM to defend Larry or at least provide his own account of what happened. I used to think that Larry's wife was the source of the anonymous "Spot in the Road" letter, but now I have to wonder if Larry's brother might have known some incriminating information and was very anxious to get it off his chest.

[MegtheEgg86]

Originally Posted by RobinW

Okay, I re-watched this segment recently and there was one detail I'd never noticed before: Larry Gibson's brother was apparently at the house at the time Tommy went missing. In the re-enactment where Larry returns from his jog and asks where Tommy is, you can see another adult male sitting down in the house. Soon afterward, you hear Larry briefly mention in his interview that his wife and brother had no idea where Tommy was and went searching for him.

This is the only mention we hear of Larry's brother in the entire segment, but if he was there that day, it's somewhat surprising he wouldn't appear on UM to defend Larry or at least provide his own account of what happened. I used to think that Larry's wife was the source of the anonymous "Spot in the Road" letter, but now I have to wonder if Larry's brother might have known some incriminating information and was very anxious to get it off his chest.

GOOD CATCH! I had never once noticed that before in all these years.

[1983SWB4X4]

Originally Posted by economistman192

It might also have been a police officer or someone who was afraid to come forward because they were frightened of him. Someone who knew he was lying - I'm curious who gave him the polygraph test....

Frightened of him huh, frightened of the Pillsbury Doughboy. His wife wasn't scared of him, first off she was just as good of a shot as he was, with her own handgun that he purchased for her, as well as being nearly as good in hand to hand combat. As for his daughters, no they were not scared of him either, in fact when his wife would yell at them to get them to clean up after themselves it was to Larry that they would run. Ands here is another very interesting tidbit of information, how about the missing persons posters that were put up all around the area? Did any of you know that for months, maybe longer someone was marking them up with messages that implicated the Roseburg County sheriffs office? And for those of you that wish to say oh it was Larry going around and doing it, yeah, it was occurring while he wasn't even in the state. Oh but Mutt and Jeff the two so called detectives investigating the case refused to even look into even after a lot of people called in to report the situation. Not only that, but when the posters were mentioned they got very defensive about it. As for the shooting of the cat, I personally would have done the same thing, 50 or better feral cats running around the place, attacking my own cats, as well as the possible threat they would pose to my family.

[SageSlowdive]

Originally Posted by 1983SWB4X4

Frightened of him huh, frightened of the Pillsbury Doughboy. His wife wasn't scared of him, first off she was just as good of a shot as he was, with her own handgun that he purchased for her, as well as being nearly as good in hand to hand combat. As for his daughters, no they were not scared of him either, in fact when his wife would yell at them to get them to clean up after themselves it was to Larry that they would run. Ands here is another very interesting tidbit of information, how about the missing persons posters that were put up all around the area? Did any of you know that for months, maybe longer someone was marking them up with messages that implicated the Roseburg County sheriffs office? And for those of you that wish to say oh it was Larry going around and doing it, yeah, it was occurring while he wasn't even in the state. Oh but Mutt and Jeff the two so called detectives investigating the case refused to even look into even after a lot of people called in to report the situation. Not only that, but when the posters were mentioned they got very defensive about it. As for the shooting of the cat, I personally would have done the same thing, 50 or better feral cats running around the place, attacking my own cats, as well as the possible threat they would pose to my family.

You must be a friend.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by 1983SWB4X4

Frightened of him huh, frightened of the Pillsbury Doughboy. His wife wasn't scared of him, first off she was just as good of a shot as he was, with her own handgun that he purchased for her, as well as being nearly as good in hand to hand combat. As for his daughters, no they were not scared of him either, in fact when his wife would yell at them to get them to clean up after themselves it was to Larry that they would run. Ands here is another very interesting tidbit of information, how about the missing persons posters that were put up all around the area? Did any of you know that for months, maybe longer someone was marking them up with messages that implicated the Roseburg County sheriffs office? And for those of you that wish to say oh it was Larry going around and doing it, yeah, it was occurring while he wasn't even in the state. Oh but Mutt and Jeff the two so called detectives investigating the case refused to even look into even after a lot of people called in to report the situation. Not only that, but when the posters were mentioned they got very defensive about it. As for the shooting of the cat, I personally would have done the same thing, 50 or better feral cats running around the place, attacking my own cats, as well as the possible threat they would pose to my family.

Is that you Larry?

[soilentgreen]

Originally Posted by RobinW

I used to think that Larry's wife was the source of the anonymous "Spot in the Road" letter, but now I have to wonder if Larry's brother might have known some incriminating information and was very anxious to get it off his chest.

That's a good possibility; there's also his half sister, whom he confessed killing Tommy to. Larry claimed that Michael (the half brother), who lived with the Gibsons, could have moved Tommy's body.

Larry's confession of killing Tommy to Deb Calek, his half sister: http://www.leagle.com/decision/19961...%20v.%20GIBSON. Apparently Larry was also accused of abusing his daughter Lisa, who was born after Tommy's disappearance/death, as well as hitting Tommy and Karen

The state argues that the evidence about Lisa is relevant to show defendant's state of mind when he struck Tommy and Karen before Tommy's disappearance. Tommy's mother testified that, a few days before Tommy disappeared, she heard a loud noise coming from the kitchen where defendant and Tommy were at the table. Tommy screamed and was lying on the floor next to his fallen-down high chair. He was holding his hands over his face, and his face had red, finger-shaped marks on it. Tommy's mother told defendant not to hit the children so hard. Defendant responded that he did not believe that he had hit Tommy too hard.

Tommy's mother also testified that defendant either hit or pushed Tommy out of the way more than once every day in the days leading up to Tommy's disappearance. She said that the blows often left welts and bruises on the side and back of Tommy's thighs. She attributed defendant's conduct to his being angry whenever Tommy "got in his way," such as when defendant wanted to watch television. She testified that, although it happened less often, defendant also struck Karen in a similar way before Tommy disappeared. A friend of Tommy's mother testified that she once witnessed defendant knock Karen to the ground because Karen interfered with his television viewing. Karen
[928 P.2d 350]
landed on her shoulder and face and had red marks on her cheek.
Unlike the defendant in Johns, defendant does not claim that his striking of Karen or Tommy before Tommy's disappearance was an accident. Rather, he claims that his actions constituted reasonable disciplinary measures. His conduct toward Lisa in 1993 does not have a tendency to make it more likely that he was acting recklessly when he struck Karen or Tommy in or before 1991, even if his acts toward Lisa were reckless in the sense that they caused injury to her.

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[WishfulDreamer]

^That made me feel sick. Who could lay their hands on their own two-year-old like that? And other small child? If the account is true, then Larry Gibson is an extremely volatile man, enraged even by his television viewing being interrupted.

The above ''knows so much'' creepy post reminds me of another thread on here...