Should We Protest this Movie: The Upcoming "Charlie's Angels 2

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"People just sit behind their [expletive] weapon and they can kill somebody and it's just so cowardly."

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Spielberg's retrofitting of "E.T." opens the door to an untapped revenue stream that promises a product placement bonanza!

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By Chris Colin

Jan. 18, 2002 |
MEMO TO: Staff, R&D
FROM: Marty Abrams, Marketing
RE: Revisionism -- the good kind!


Hello!! Once again, digital technology makes the headlines: At a cost of about $100,000, and at the request of his godchild -- firestarter-turned-pacifist Drew Barrymore -- Steven Spielberg is retrofitting "E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial":

"The brilliant director plans to re-release 'E.T.' in late March," Neal Travis reported in the New York Post last week, "but the guns that appear in the final scene as [FBI] agents surround the spaceship will be replaced with walkie-talkies."

Barrymore's plan is more than just a thoughtful attempt at curbing worldwide violence; it's an untapped revenue stream! The potential markets extend well beyond actresses, into the dollar-rich world of niche demographics. Get these groups' special message into a popular film and they'll finance 50 "E.T.s"! Think of it as retroactive product placement. I've highlighted a few obvious marriages:

Recyclers and "Platoon": Hopefully Barrymore hasn't seen this film! Almost all of the actors carry guns, and in many cases point them at one another. Lord knows how much those eco groups would pay us to replace the guns with soda bottles and beer cans. The final scene can be tweaked a bit, so that the soldiers make a dramatic deposit in strategically placed recycling bins. "Charlie" can pitch in, too!

The National Rifle Association and "The Wizard of Oz": Dorothy and friends remain profitable despite plodding -- and underrealized -- stretches between "We're Off to See the Wizard" and "If I Only Had a Brain." Why not insert a compelling riflery scene? Off the top of my head, I'm thinking the Cowardly Lion might look good with a handsome Remington 700 bolt action.

Al Gore and "The Manchurian Candidate": This film's a good "candidate" for enhanced earnings. Enter the former V.P. (minus beard) looking heroic. It can be a short scene, but the big lug needs some positive exposure and would probably pay for it at this point. Just because Gore's no political thriller doesn't mean he can't appear in one!

Referees and "Titanic": Millions of Americans saw this instant classic in the theaters, and still more continue to rent it in video stores. Significantly, the film fails to represent the referee lifestyle in any of its scenes. The referee community is powerful and organized, and reportedly anxious to expand. Cinematically, those striped shirts and whistles would really stand out in the midst of those older, drabber costumes. (You might say this idea is a "good call"!)

In addition, it makes sense to investigate the world of sequel films, going forward. I've run some preliminary numbers, and production studios could save a bundle with expanded digitalization strategies. Rather than hire all new actors for "Harry Potter II" -- not to mention stocking their trailers with fresh fruit and expensive lotions -- why not digitally alter the old actors in the original film? Most body types are similar enough, so it would just be a matter of pasting in new faces and dialogue.

Inevitably, whiney critics will raise so-called ethical issues, but this is a no-brainer. Revisionism has been given a bad name over the years, and it's time we take it back. This can be a turning point for our operation, and I believe we owe major kudos to Drew Barrymore. Amid the insipid romantic comedies and interchangeable buddy adventures, a rich young woman has the vision and Edisonian temerity to say the past is not what it was. Liberated from the obsolescence of linear temporality, we can now review history not shamefully, but with a film editor's keen eye for the fixable. The sky's the limit!

Lastly, we'll invariably encounter the familiar "logistical" concerns (our company has only two employees, historically we have only operated a hot dog stand, we don't entirely understand what "digital" means, we're tired of sleeping behind the ketchup bins, etc.). But I'm excited to inform you that these aren't obstacles, but rather challenges. What if Spielberg had listened to the naysayers who said he couldn't make a movie about a cute alien who learned to speak English? I'll tell you where he'd be: Stealing wieners from our truck like a common hobo ... and guess who'd edit those dogs right out of his grubby hands!

Company note: Please do not put the sauerkraut spoon in the relish tray, going forward. Thanx!

[TMC]

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9708/26/smoking.on.film/

Critics say young viewers paying the price
August 26, 1997
Web posted at: 5:33 a.m. EDT (0933 GMT)
From Correspondent Sherri Sylvester


LOS ANGELES (CNN) -- It's a habit that even Hollywood can't kick. Almost every actor and actress has been seen lighting up in the movies.

Worried about the continued popularity of smoking, the American Lung Association recently asked a group of teens to tally up the numbers by watching some 133 recent features. The results were astounding.

"Of 133 movies, they saw tobacco in some way in 77 percent of the movies," says Andrew Weisser of the ALA.

Washington believes that's sending the wrong signals to young viewers. Even Hillary Clinton has been critical of tobacco use in one of the summer's hottest hits, "My Best Friend's Wedding."

Actress Julia Roberts is not alone in her penchant for chain smoking. The aliens of "Men In Black" pack Marlboros and the character Hades in "Hercules" smokes, as do actors in "G.I. Jane," "Cop Land" and "Face/Off."

"They really should be ashamed of themselves. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Julia Roberts, Jeff Goldblum, Will Smith, making smoking look really cool. Teens look at our movie stars and they model themselves after them," says anti- smoking activist Patrick Reynolds.


Responsible for actions?

Some actors refuse to take the heat.

"I can't take moral responsibility when it comes to the character," says Matt Dillon. "If the character would, I would."

"If individuals are so gullible that if they see a celebrity smoking that they think that's cool, that's a problem with the individual. That's a problem with the way society reveres celebrities and puts them on an unwanted pedestal," adds Glenn Kenny, senior editor of Premiere magazine.

Not to be left out, Alicia Silverstone puffs on camera in her new movie, "Excess Baggage." Her director says art is imitating life, not the other way around.

"There's a lot of anger and a lot of frustration and anxiety towards authority, towards parents, towards relationships, and part of her is self-destructive, so her smoking and drinking are just natural ways of expressing herself," director Marco Bramilla says of Silverstone's angst-ridden character.

Cigarettes also seem the prop of choice for John Travolta, who's seen smoking on screen in several films.

"We need to tell our young people, 'Hey, smoking kills.' It is as addicting as heroin, and movie actors who smoke are being irresponsible," Reynolds argues.


'A bad example'

There are movie stars who agree.

"Unfortunately, it's becoming romantic in films again," says Brooke Shields.

"It gives you cancer; it kills you," adds Isabella Rossellini.

"I have played characters who smoke, and I don't want to consciously do it again," says actor Gabriel Byrne. "It's a bad example."

Movie studios insist they don't accept product placement money for cigarettes. But the Clinton administration is concerned about the proliferation of the product. Al Gore meets with movie-makers on the issue next month.

Meanwhile, 3,000 kids a day are lighting up for the first time.

Memo to Cameron Diaz! If you're going to proclaim to the press that you "quit smoking" then back it up damnit! If you're going to tell us this drivel then don't show up on "SNL" like a year later and puff away while putting on a faux British accent in one particular skit!!! Then again, I still don't believe that you're even close to having Drew Barrymore beat on the hypocrisy scale!

[TMC]

I guess Drew will next try to convince us that she never appeared in now infamous dreck like her ex-husband's "Freddy Got Fingered" or post-"ET" ultra B-movie classics like "Motorama", "No Place to Hide", "Dopplehanger", "Sketch Artist", "Poision Ivy", "Guncrazy", "The Amy Fisher Story", etc., etc.

[TMC]

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SHERRI SYLVESTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): High-tech tools and high-heeled shoes do not an action hero make, although in the case of "Charlie's Angels," they're a good start. Drew Barrymore, Cameron Diaz and Lucy Liu bring a "Matrix"-style martial arts look to the feature. The trio trained six to eight hours a day with many members of the "Matrix" team. They were led by "The Master," an expert from China who made them sign a strict contract -- no smoking, no drinking, no cutting class.

DREW BARRYMORE, ACTRESS: It's very much about honor and discipline and pain.

(LAUGHTER)

BARRYMORE: Not in that order. CAMERON DIAZ, ACTRESS: Pain comes first.

BARRYMORE: Pain -- they used to always say pain is your best friend.

DIAZ: The first day we met him was like, we want to introduce you to your new best friend, get to know him, embrace him, love him. Who is he? Pain.

BARRYMORE: Pain.

(LAUGHTER)

DIAZ: All right.

BARRYMORE: You think it's funny at the time, until you're limping out of there.

SYLVESTER (on camera): So were you limping out there the first day?

DIAZ: Oh yeah.

BARRYMORE: Yeah.

LUCY LIU, ACTRESS: I couldn't walk. I had to lift my legs with my hands...

DIAZ: Yeah.

BARRYMORE: Yeah.

LIU: ... literally like...

DIAZ: Literally to do this.

BARRYMORE: No, you can't cross your legs.

LIU: But you could barely lift them cause your arms were so weak.

(LAUGHTER)

DIAZ: Yes, exactly.

SYLVESTER: You didn't want to have "The Angels" carry guns?

BARRYMORE: Well, if they can walk into a room and handle themselves physically instead of being cowardly and pulling a trigger and winning the fight, and if we had to fight each other sort of...

LIU: You earn that.

BARRYMORE: ... in this primal element of hand-to-hand, and how sexy that is. SYLVESTER (voice-over): While filming, Barrymore met and fell in love with comic actor Tom Green. They planned to marry and shared his proposal with her co-stars.

BARRYMORE: It was so amazing. It was the best night of my life, because, first of all, we had the best dinner, and it was so much fun. But it was like, I know that there are people out there who have sisters, and when something big happens in their life, they go and talk to their sisters about it. Those are my sisters, you know.

SYLVESTER (on camera): You guys went sky diving after you wrapped?

BARRYMORE: You know what's crazy is I have been so terrified of flying for the last few years of my life, I mean, take years off my life, heart in failing mode every time there's turbulence. And I am so much less fearful of flying now after doing this. You jump out of an airplane at 13,000 feet with some mesh on your back. It helps.

(LAUGHTER)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "CHARLIE'S ANGELS")

BARRYMORE: Damn, I hate to fly.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SYLVESTER (voice-over): Sherri Sylvester, CNN, Los Angeles.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

Sherri Sylvester, CNN, Los Angeles.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

[Kitt]

Originally posted by kittflynn
A couple of summers during my teenage years I and many of my friends used to go to the beach practically everday. And everday around a certain time of the afternoon, this one man, who was always fully clothed including a tattered suit coat and black old worn out street shoes, would come around and begin shouting out is brand of hellfire bible preachings. Since he did that so often and since he was so apparently in his own world, everyone either ignored him, made fun of him or, out of curiosity, gave him a few moments of attention. But he was such a pitiful, pathetic character that most of us chose to ignore him. It was obvious that he would continue to come around and preach his weird brand of venom everday no matter what, so everyone instinctively chose to walk around him as if he were nothing more than a harmless barking dog on a leash waiting for his owner to come back and take him home for the day. Unfortunately, ignoring him never was a succesful method of getting him to stop coming around. Will history repeat itself with the TMC show?

Now that a few weeks have gone by, and ten or fifteen lonely posts have been posted on the same tired subject by TMC without neary a reply from anyone, I'll have to conclude that history has repeated itself. Where is the owner of this poor old pathetic dog? Please, take him home!

[TMC]

http://www.thegline.com/thought/2000/12-03-2000.htm

There's been a lot of talk about positive role models lately, most of it centering about role models for girls and women rather than men. Seems that there's been a dearth of same, according to some fairly well-paid public handwringers. I'm more of the opinion that role models, if you choose to look for them, are all in where you find them. Moreover, role models do not have a shelf life: if you're leery of one just because he or she is dead, then methinks you're looking for a celebrity, not a role model.

Strangely enough, a particularly vitriolic argument about role models got started the other day over, of all things, the movie Charlie's Angels. The film was bad enough to begin with, derived as it was from an idiotic TV show (and that's a trend that probably deserves an essay of its own, but somehow it just seems like way too easy a target). The movie, if anything, was even worse. The best description of it goes to Roger Ebert:

What is it? A satire? Of what? Of satires, I guess. It makes fun of movies that want to make fun of movies like this.

The lesson, of course, is that you can't kid a kidder. Given how drearily stupid the movie is, it's a lesson they didn't learn in time. What bothered me most about the movie was not how idiotic it was, nor how imbecilically self-referential it tried to be, but rather how people have been trying to spin the movie as an example of positive female role models.

Let me repeat that: Positive female role models.

Oh, come on.

In this film, we have Cameron Diaz as a bubbleheaded ditz who can't open her mouth without letting out a double-entendre. We have Lucy Liu as a revoltingly stereotypical Asian Dragon Lady -- and on that note, when are we going to see Miss Liu cast in something resembling a normal human role again? The last six or seven times I've seen her in something (Payback), she's been playing one of these whip-wielding harridans and embarrassing the **** out of herself. And Drew Barrymore -- well, she doesn't have much of a character to play in the first place, so the whole thing is kind of moot.

Where do people get the role-model angle from this movie? Is it because we have three girls who (allegedly) take no **** and kick acres of ass? Not as if they're "doing it for themselves," to borrow another shopworn FemLib cliché; they're in the service of Charlie, just like in the TV show. (Charlie apparently had better taste than to appear in either the TV show or the movie, at least in person. I guess they wrote the role for someone who wanted to phone it in from the git-go. How's that for insulting?)

What exactly is the role-model lesson from all this? That unless you're pretty, have a black belt and can team up with two others who are hardly less distinguishable from yourself, you're not worth it? That violence is a mandatory problem-solving tool and brains and savvy are optional (unless supplied by someone else)? The idea that something as empty-headed as Charlie's Angels could possibly be a role model is of the same school of thinking that could brand Pokemon "educational TV." Doesn't this strike you as just being the least bit desperate and bankrupt? No one really wants role models, the same way they really don't want to "fight the good fight." They want to have their cake and eat it too. The worst part, of course, is that we are surrounded by people dumb enough, or gullible enough, to validate them in their delusion. If you have enough people repeating deleterious nonsense, eventually it assumes a sort of gravity -- one which crumbles at the first touch of an outsider, of course, but in the time it remains standing, it's convincing enough.

The most incredible thing about the movie? The three lead talents made conscious decisions to be in it. Hell, Barrymore even came on board as one of the producers. In short, they volunteered for what is generally seen as a step down by other people. And are they suffering for it? Not in the slightest, as far as I can tell: the movie came out, made a ****load of money, and is now being fast-tracked for a sequel. Girlfight, on the other hand, also being released by Sony/Columbia/TriStar, is a movie about someone who's a lot more credible as a role model. It played in minimal engagements and now seems headed directly to video.

What I am to infer from this, then, is that positive role models -- people who mirror the parts of ourselves that need thought and attention -- are simply not good business. Gangster rappers who shoot each other at the slightest possible provocation; rock stars whose hotel-destroying exploits are snicker material for the morning after; movie stars; wrestlers-turned-politicians who debase both the sport and the profession about equally... The only conclusion I can draw from all this is the reason positive role models are in such short supply is because negative ones are far better for the pocketbook.

People wonder why I have such trepidations about capitalism being a least common denominator for a society. The answer is simple: because capitalism can't guarantee the quality of anything bought or sold. If the customer comes seeking **** and doesn't know there's anything better, there will always be someone sly enough to sell it to him. No one says to themselves that they're out to buy crap, but many people settle for crap out of a lack of knowledge of what else may be out there. And in the same way, we've settled, it seems, on pap-culture heroes as role models.

Speaking of role models, Rosa Parks recently celebrated her birthday. Didn't hear much about it, did you?


Somebody seriously needs to remind "Miss Self-Righteous" that just like those pesky and "cowardly" guns (I guess somebody is suffering from a severe case of amnesia based on this photo by the way), continuously inserting a "special little roll of paper" in your mouth will *kill* you too!!!

Hey still speaking of role models, I thought you were finally "clean & sober...Drew!!!"











That's right Drew, get all of the yummy cancer that your body (you must be "protecting it" 24/7 like Cameron Diaz proclaimed to stand for right) can handle!!!





Frankly, holding a gun (with self-defense on the mind by the way) when compared to holding a cigarette is far less dangerous to your well-being because at the very least, you're not suppose to point a gun inward in order to get it to its proper usage!

[DarleneIllyria]

Oh my stars, I still can't believe this post has lasted so long. I don't even read half the crap you post. You are being kind of unfair to Drew by posting old pictures of her smoking and drinking. Maybe that was a movie role? *gasps* Can people smoke and drink in movies???!! *gasp again* Yes! Yes! I think they can.

Seperate them man. Drew Barrymore is Drew Barrymore. She lives her own life the way she wants to live it.

Drew Barrymore as a character: She does what the script says.

[TMC]

Originally posted by Jenny
Oh my stars, I still can't believe this post has lasted so long. I don't even read half the crap you post. You are being kind of unfair to Drew by posting old pictures of her smoking and drinking. Maybe that was a movie role? *gasps* Can people smoke and drink in movies???!! *gasp again* Yes! Yes! I think they can.

Hey, I didn't post everything in this thread all by myself if you catch my drift since you want to bring up half of the "crap" that I'm posting here!

Seperate them man. Drew Barrymore is Drew Barrymore. She lives her own life the way she wants to live it.

Drew Barrymore as a character: She does what the script says.

You may ask, why I'm bothering to post old photos of a supposedly post-rehab Drew drinking and smoking!? Let me get this straight, it isn't wrong to but your health at higher risk by smoking (especially allowing yourself to do such a vice), yet it's wrong to carry around a gun even if you're a law-abiding citizen w/ the intention of using it in self-defense. But of course, since people like the stars of "Charlie's Angels" have money and fame, I guess that automatically means that they're above the law and any proper morals & standards. Why else do you think that they Drew, Cameron, & Lucy managed to get away w/ that "I Won't Vote for a Son of a Bush!" stunt on MTV.

It absolutely ticks me off that this woman has the audicity to appear on Nickelodeon in front of legions of children to present at & accept their awards and then when you turn around, we find you guessed it...old photos of her drinking and smoking. Not to mention the fact that she appeared at Nickelodeon fuctions leading up to the production of the first "Charlie's Angels" in which she's among other things, flipping the bird, flaunting her cleavage, appear virtually nude, and um...smoke (but she still gets awards from all of the kiddies for this *real crap.* Frankly, when you're a celebrity (e.g. an actor, athlete, musician, etc.) you're supposed to show some backbone and take responbility and accountabilty for your actions. This is one reason why stuff like Drew's anti-gun stance & now "former" veggie status as well as the time that she fled the "SNL" set because there was supposedly anthrax in the building is absolutely laughable.

[DarleneIllyria]

What the hell are we supposed to do about it? Buy up every bad picture of Drew and burn it? This is getting insane. And I'm sorry to say this, but anybody with half a brain ought to figure out that the stuff that Drew did in her past was dumb. Okay, whoa let me get up on a desk and flash my boobs at somebody. Whoa! Drew did it. I bet I can too! It's ********.

It's like that stuff with Marilyn Manson and Columbine. Marilyn Manson did not put that gun in those boys hands and tell them to shoot up the school. He did not. Marilyn writes music. It ought to be a person's responsibility to listen to it and figure out that the guy is just writing a song. If the person doesn't have a brain, then I hope that the parents look after the kid.

Probably everybody has something against them. What about Britney Spears? I've heard cases about her drinking and *gasp* swearing, and smoking. I agree that Britney is a role model and she ought to be more careful with what she does around a camera, but the girl is living life. Are we all supposed to be modest every single day of our lives? NO! Some people smoke (of their own free will, not because Britney Spears picks up a cigarette), some people do drink (of their own free will, not because Britney Spears got drunk), and some people do swear (remember this is of their own free will)

Frankly, I don't give a damn what any of these celebs do. As I've probably mentioned before, I look to these people for entertainment. I don't care what they do outside of their movies or outside of the cds. I do not care.

Don't judge a book by it's cover. That is one of the upmost important things about life. You may look at a person and you may swear that the person does drugs and all sorts of stuff, but maybe that's just the outside cover? Maybe the inside is entirely different?

Celebs give out their opinion to get their name in the paper. If Drew, Lucy Liu, and Cameron Diaz did not give out opinions every once in awhile- people would think they were senseless idiots or something.

What about Carroll O' Connor? His big role was Archie Bunker. Archie Bunker was a bigot in All in the Family, do you honestly think Carroll was a bigot in real life?

What about Hal Smith? His big role was Otis Campbell. Do you think he was the town drunk in real life?

How about this one? How does this grab ya? Do you think Adam West and Burt Ward still put on the Batman and Robin suits and crimefight Gotham City in the year 2002??!!

What about Nancy McKeon? She plays a girl named Jinny on the Division. Jinny has a bit of a drinking problem. Do you think Nancy has a drinking problem in real life?

[TMC]

Originally posted by Jenny
What the hell are we supposed to do about it? Buy up every bad picture of Drew and burn it? This is getting insane. And I'm sorry to say this, but anybody with half a brain ought to figure out that the stuff that Drew did in her past was dumb. Okay, whoa let me get up on a desk and flash my boobs at somebody. Whoa! Drew did it. I bet I can too! It's ********.

It's like that stuff with Marilyn Manson and Columbine. Marilyn Manson did not put that gun in those boys hands and tell them to shoot up the school. He did not. Marilyn writes music. It ought to be a person's responsibility to listen to it and figure out that the guy is just writing a song. If the person doesn't have a brain, then I hope that the parents look after the kid.

Probably everybody has something against them. What about Britney Spears? I've heard cases about her drinking and *gasp* swearing, and smoking. I agree that Britney is a role model and she ought to be more careful with what she does around a camera, but the girl is living life. Are we all supposed to be modest every single day of our lives? NO! Some people smoke (of their own free will, not because Britney Spears picks up a cigarette), some people do drink (of their own free will, not because Britney Spears got drunk), and some people do swear (remember this is of their own free will)

Frankly, I don't give a damn what any of these celebs do. As I've probably mentioned before, I look to these people for entertainment. I don't care what they do outside of their movies or outside of the cds. I do not care.

Don't judge a book by it's cover. That is one of the upmost important things about life. You may look at a person and you may swear that the person does drugs and all sorts of stuff, but maybe that's just the outside cover? Maybe the inside is entirely different?

Celebs give out their opinion to get their name in the paper. If Drew, Lucy Liu, and Cameron Diaz did not give out opinions every once in awhile- people would think they were senseless idiots or something.

What about Carroll O' Connor? His big role was Archie Bunker. Archie Bunker was a bigot in All in the Family, do you honestly think Carroll was a bigot in real life?

What about Hal Smith? His big role was Otis Campbell. Do you think he was the town drunk in real life?

How about this one? How does this grab ya? Do you think Adam West and Burt Ward still put on the Batman and Robin suits and crimefight Gotham City in the year 2002??!!

What about Nancy McKeon? She plays a girl named Jinny on the Division. Jinny has a bit of a drinking problem. Do you think Nancy has a drinking problem in real life?

Okay, lets put it this way in terms of the idea of just "living your life." Take for example, what Bill Clinton did in the Oval Office and God knows where else in the White House w/ Monica Lewinsky! Sure, Clinton lied to the public and committed adultery but he was simply doing what made me happy in life wasn't he. Or how about R. Kelly and his *alleged* sexual adventures w/ underage girls!? The point that I'm trying to make is that just because you do something of interest of hobby that keeps you satisified on a personal level in life doesn't necessarily mean that it's in the end morally or ethicially right.

And if Drew Barrymore wants to allow herself to be photographed doing such vices like smoking, then she shouldn't appear in front of innocent little kids on Nickelodeon (it's just common sense talking). There is absolutely no law in the books that states that if you live a straight-edged lifestyle than you're not living life to the fullest or taking everything for granted! As for Britney Spears, I'm not trying to give her a free pass because such like Drew, stuff like smoking *period* and showing up on Nickelodeon w/ a see-through shirt on was absolutely dumb. But when compared to what Drew has been doing at least, Britney didn't seem to be pretty aware that there were cameras in front of her while doing things like that. The truth of the matter is that, it seems like you're getting very bent out of shape because I'm here being as brutally honest w/ the hypocrisy and lack of fundation towards their opinions as possible. And personally, the whole MTV t-shirt stunt wasn't simply a cheesy act to get your name in the press like the time when Drew flashed David Letterman on his birthday or all of the nonsense that she did w/ Tom Green in terms of jerking everybody around about getting married. This was during a Presidential Election by the way which is why Cameron Diaz wrote that "Personal Statement" for Al Gore in the first place (they were deadly seriously about what they believed and were talking about)!

[Brian Damage]

Jenny, why even bother wasting your breath with this guy/girl? The only reason this thread has lasted as long as it has is because he continually posts stuff that only he reads. Take a look for yourself, he posts stuff, then he comes back and talks about the stuff that he posts. He's been having a conversation with himself. Nobody cares!

All he's going to do is leave a long winded comment about why he's right and everybody else is wrong. The best thing you can do is ignore this thread and make Charlie's Angels 2 the #1 movie. As for you TMC, try dating once in awhile. Thank You.

[TMC]

Originally posted by briandamage
Jenny, why even bother wasting your breath with this guy/girl? The only reason this thread has lasted as long as it has is because he continually posts stuff that only he reads. Take a look for yourself, he posts stuff, then he comes back and talks about the stuff that he posts. He's been having a conversation with himself. Nobody cares!

All he's going to do is leave a long winded comment about why he's right and everybody else is wrong. The best thing you can do is ignore this thread and make Charlie's Angels 2 the #1 movie. As for you TMC, try dating once in awhile. Thank You.

Hey smart aleck, maybe the reason why you're making such a response is because you agree w/ virtually everything that's so-called "political" to come out of the actresses' mouths. You don't have to agree w/ me just like I don't agree w/ the gun standpoint for example, but the least thing that you folks around here can do is sit down and try to respect my point of view at the very least before you want to respond! Apparently, you don't understand that simply talking about how good or bad a movie is isn't the point what so ever. And frankly, I'll continue to make "long-winded comments" as long as I have something essential and important to share to you.

[Brian]

OK I think we have seen enough discussion about this topic. I am closing this thread for the sake of keeping it peaceful. If anybody is looking to start trouble, do it somewhere else but not on these message boards. End of story.