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Old 06-30-2004, 05:40 PM   #16
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Out of everything that everyone has said here since my last post, there is SO MUCH I want to say about the issue. But that would make this one loooooong thing about people fighting. And if I don't stop it, who will? The only thing I MUST comment on, is 1. The only reason I brought Rasa's name into this in the first place, is because YOU had said that I posted a topic INSULTING someone and we all knew I posted it on her, so why not say her name? It's just stating the obvious. 2. I do not talk with Rasa BUT I talk with Kelly. And Kelly and Rasa are friends. So see, it can be worked out where I can be friends with one and not the other. 3. I DEFINETLY DID NOT mean in a serious way that I hoped Tracey and Jon would have an affair, and Tracey would leave her husband and Jon would leave his g/f. It was a joke I had said because I thought they has such great on-screen chemistry, wouldn't it be kewl if they were dating on and off the show. BUT I NEVER ONCE meant that they should cheat with each other, and you know it!!!!! That whole thing started, when I wanted to write a fic about there real lives...but NOT to write that they were cheating, and you flipped out. I still could have wrote it, but out of respect for you I didn't. Now I'm rethinking that. 4. I NEVER SAID Cat was telling my secrets. What I said was, I didn't think it was fair she tell Michelle that I called her a f*in bitch, which I did because I couldn't believe CAT OF ALL PEOPLE was lying AND then I said it wasn't fair for her to do that when I never ONCE told ANYONE a secret of hers that she told me, and yet she can go and tell Michelle stuff I said in a chat to her? LOOK:

First of all, I see that Cat tells you, and maybe not only you, what we talk about in chats. And yet I have never ONCE told ANYONE the personal stuff Cat has told me in chats. I don't think that is fair.

5. Thanks Kelly, for trying to bring peace back to the boards, I just wish you wouldn't have done that. I don't need you to get attacked by Cat saying STAY OUT OF THIS, I would never have said that to you. And you don't have to "STAY OUT OF IT" it's a public forum. And I don't like that this has gotten so far out of hand, but I just don't want you, Kelly......to get hurt trying to make peace. Oh and lastly. You say I'm immature? When you quoted me with:

"But no, she now has you ddoing her dirty work for her as she did me. As a matter of fact, that last post sounds ALOT like Cat. hmmmmm Makes me wonder if she typed it, or just told you what to say."
You know what? at first that made me pissed, but now I am CRAKING up Thanks!!! i needed that. LOL God that was so funnny LMaO.....I sorry I really reallly wasn't laughing at you...

is it so funny because it's true??????
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Out of everything that everyone has said here since my last post, there is SO MUCH I want to say about the issue. But that would make this one loooooong thing about people fighting. And if I don't stop it, who will? The only thing I MUST comment on, is 1. The only reason I brought Rasa's name into this in the first place, is because YOU had said that I posted a topic INSULTING someone and we all knew I posted it on her, so why not say her name? It's just stating the obvious. 2. I do not talk with Rasa BUT I talk with Kelly. And Kelly and Rasa are friends. So see, it can be worked out where I can be friends with one and not the other. 3. I DEFINETLY DID NOT mean in a serious way that I hoped Tracey and Jon would have an affair, and Tracey would leave her husband and Jon would leave his g/f. It was a joke I had said because I thought they has such great on-screen chemistry, wouldn't it be kewl if they were dating on and off the show. BUT I NEVER ONCE meant that they should cheat with each other, and you know it!!!!! That whole thing started, when I wanted to write a fic about there real lives...but NOT to write that they were cheating, and you flipped out. I still could have wrote it, but out of respect for you I didn't. Now I'm rethinking that. 4. I NEVER SAID Cat was telling my secrets. What I said was, I didn't think it was fair she tell Michelle that I called her a f*in bitch, which I did because I couldn't believe CAT OF ALL PEOPLE was lying AND then I said it wasn't fair for her to do that when I never ONCE told ANYONE a secret of hers that she told me, and yet she can go and tell Michelle stuff I said in a chat to her? LOOK:

First of all, I see that Cat tells you, and maybe not only you, what we talk about in chats. And yet I have never ONCE told ANYONE the personal stuff Cat has told me in chats. I don't think that is fair.

5. Thanks Kelly, for trying to bring peace back to the boards, I just wish you wouldn't have done that. I don't need you to get attacked by Cat saying STAY OUT OF THIS, I would never have said that to you. And you don't have to "STAY OUT OF IT" it's a public forum. And I don't like that this has gotten so far out of hand, but I just don't want you, Kelly......to get hurt trying to make peace. Oh and lastly. You say I'm immature? When you quoted me with:

"But no, she now has you ddoing her dirty work for her as she did me. As a matter of fact, that last post sounds ALOT like Cat. hmmmmm Makes me wonder if she typed it, or just told you what to say."
You know what? at first that made me pissed, but now I am CRAKING up Thanks!!! i needed that. LOL God that was so funnny LMaO.....I sorry I really reallly wasn't laughing at you...

is it so funny because it's true??????
Fine, a few more things...

1) Not saying her name, to keep her out of it!
2) no one ever said anything about being friends with one but not the other. Doesn't even make sense that you brought that up.
3) You only said it was a joke after I already told you what I thought about that. So I'm not even sure anymore if you meant it or not. However you did say it, and cheating and divorce, NOT FUNNY!!! And fics about personal lives, that's crossing the line. How would you like a fic about you? Somebody could write that you're gay and having an affair with some 80 year old granny... but that would be cool, right? Just a nice story...
4) You never said I was telling your secrets? So it wasn't you who said this: "So see Cat, I can tell secrets about you just like you can about me. " Sorry, my mistake, must have been someone else posting with your name...
5) You seriously think you can insult me and I don't tell anyone about it? Apart from that you're the one who brought it here with your reply to my fic, making wild assumptions.
6) I NEVER LIED!!!! Not to you and not to anyone else here.
7) You should read what I said to Kelly again. Cause you're completely turning that around! Kelly is my friend, Michelle's friend, and your friend, thus she should stay out of this in order not to get hurt.
8) It's so funny because it's so obvious that it's not true. Michelle and I both have completely different styles when we write something. And why would I make her say something that I can say myself just as well?

So go find yourself someone else to crap on, I'm done with you!
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This is really something, I can't believe friends fighting friends.. What the hell is going on? Can't we all just look past lies and see into truth? Or is it the fact that people are blinded by their own wants and needs to see that if someone is hurting.. to back off?, Heh I think you folks needs some readjusting.. Just my opion tho.. Ither way.. Stop bitching at each other.. Kiss and make up.. Then get on with your lives and forget a past that only makes things worse.. For if you don't.. I am sure you will see how hard it is to run to someone for help when you surely need it most.. Oh and don't forget.. The he said she said bull****.. Thats got to go.. It is either I said it.. and admit it.. Or I didn't say.. and I admit it.. so let the **** go.. and move on...
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This is really something, I can't believe friends fighting friends.. What the hell is going on? Can't we all just look past lies and see into truth? Or is it the fact that people are blinded by their own wants and needs to see that if someone is hurting.. to back off?, Heh I think you folks needs some readjusting.. Just my opion tho.. Ither way.. Stop bitching at each other.. Kiss and make up.. Then get on with your lives and forget a past that only makes things worse.. For if you don't.. I am sure you will see how hard it is to run to someone for help when you surely need it most.. Oh and don't forget.. The he said she said bull****.. Thats got to go.. It is either I said it.. and admit it.. Or I didn't say.. and I admit it.. so let the **** go.. and move on...
you know, I see your point, really. And I'm pretty sure if it were other people fighting, I would have tried to end it as well, but unfortunately that's always easier to say than to do. As someone on the outside who's feelings aren't involved, it might seem stupid, but for the ones in this, it might just be too late to reconcile again. I hate it too. I wish instead of fighting there was some peaceful solution
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I hate to say this.. It is hard to swallow.. But your ego has over loaded your ass in this conversation.. I don't mean to be rude and uptight about it. but christ sakes woman.. get your pannies out your ass and wake up.. there is a peaceful solution to everything.. you are just to ****ing blind to see this.. And to recoucil.. who said anything about that? i sure as hell didn't.. I'm not taking anyones sides by the way I am just passing through.. I like to keep up with peoples and see how smart they really are.. But from that last post.. you aren't very bright.. you don't want to look for a peaceful soloution.. you would rather fight it out.. and make someone suffer.. obviosly this other girl has tried to make things simple for you.. and for her.. she needs to stop trying so damn hard and let go.. Heh.. in all honesty.. just stop ****in around.. tell each other your sorry.. and move on... friends are hard to come by.. and if you **** this up? heh.. i feel for you.. I really do.. But in the mean time.. Just take the advise and do what the wise man said.. heed the warning before jumping the bridge.. it might help in the long run.
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"But that would make this one loooooong thing about people fighting. And if I don't stop it, who will? The only thing I MUST omment on, is 1. The only reason I brought Rasa's name into this in the first place, is because YOU had said that I posted a topic INSULTING someone and we all knew I posted it on her, so why not say her name? It's just stating the obvious."

And if you don't stop the fighting who well? OMG your post was ALL about fighting. IF, you really wanted to stop the fighting you would have said, "I am sorry".

". The only reason I brought Rasa's name into this in the first place, is because YOU had said that I posted a topic INSULTING someone and we all knew I posted it on her, so why not say her name? It's just stating the obvious."

How long have you been posting hear Angie? There could have a lot of posts about someone you posted about before...Not eveyone would have known. I brought up the topic, not the person BIG difference.


" NEVER SAID Cat was telling my secrets. What I said was, I didn't think it was fair she tell Michelle that I called her a f*in bitch, which I did because I couldn't believe CAT OF ALL PEOPLE was lying AND then I said it wasn't fair for her to do that when I never ONCE told ANYONE a secret of hers that she told me, and yet she can go and tell Michelle stuff I said in a chat to her? LOOK:

First of all, I see that Cat tells you, and maybe not only you, what we talk about in chats. And yet I have never ONCE told ANYONE the personal stuff Cat has told me in chats. I don't think that is fair."

Okay personal stuff secreats...it's the same thing. However when you call someone a ****ing bitch that isn't something personal that you said to Cat. Now if she said something about your family that would be personal, and she never ever did that. I mean do you really not get that?

"h and lastly. You say I'm immature? When you quoted me with:

"But no, she now has you ddoing her dirty work for her as she did me. As a matter of fact, that last post sounds ALOT like Cat. hmmmmm Makes me wonder if she typed it, or just told you what to say."
You know what? at first that made me pissed, but now I am CRAKING up Thanks!!! i needed that. LOL God that was so funnny LMaO.....I sorry I really reallly wasn't laughing at you... "

is it so funny because it's true??????"

No it's not true. Cat's is a lot better with words, and spelling and gramer. HOw would she be telling me what to say? And if, she was then why wouldnt' SHE make sure I was spelling everything right? GOd just becasue you let everyone lead you by the nose doesn't mean eveybody else is like that. You make it sound like cat brain washed you. Did she ever force you to do anything that YOU DIDN"T WANT TO DO? if, not then don't blame her for that.
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I hate to say this.. It is hard to swallow.. But your ego has over loaded your ass in this conversation.. I don't mean to be rude and uptight about it. but christ sakes woman.. get your pannies out your ass and wake up.. there is a peaceful solution to everything.. you are just to ****ing blind to see this.. And to recoucil.. who said anything about that? i sure as hell didn't.. I'm not taking anyones sides by the way I am just passing through.. I like to keep up with peoples and see how smart they really are.. But from that last post.. you aren't very bright.. you don't want to look for a peaceful soloution.. you would rather fight it out.. and make someone suffer.. obviosly this other girl has tried to make things simple for you.. and for her.. she needs to stop trying so damn hard and let go.. Heh.. in all honesty.. just stop ****in around.. tell each other your sorry.. and move on... friends are hard to come by.. and if you **** this up? heh.. i feel for you.. I really do.. But in the mean time.. Just take the advise and do what the wise man said.. heed the warning before jumping the bridge.. it might help in the long run.
I'm sorry, I've tried to stay out of this, but now I can't. I think you have alot of nerve coming on here out of the blue and thinking you can figure all this out by reading a couple of posts. And, assuming that you have all the answers, preposterous! You don't know Cat or Angie, so how dare you judge them or this situation. If they are friends again great, but if not, have you ever thought that not everyone is meant to be everyone's friend. Heck, there are alot of people that we all know, but are not "friends" with. You really need to leave this situation alone and let Cat and Angie work it out between them. They don't need some stranger to come on here and insult them both and act like they have all the answers. Because...you don't.
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WOW! I can't believe you said that. Why don't you say the same thing to Michelle, who put her nose where it didn't belong. And she knows Cat. This Zell person, doesn't know any of us, and is still trying to get us talking again. It's called "world peace" so to speak. So pay attention. Zell's just trying to get everyone talking again. That's all. I was going to post in response to all Michelle has just said about Cat and I, which YES she doesn't know the half of, but you know what I'm not going to respond to that. Why???? So she can lie some more? And not listen to a thing I say?? And I just think Cat is getting along really well with Michelle now more then ever, because she is just fueling Cat's fire. Besides everytime I make a point she can't compete with, it's: Ok so maybe you were right about that, BUT: and then she throws in some more made up ****. So yeah, why should I answer what she is saying? It's pointless. I'm starting to realize that now. OH AND...the only thing I will respond to, is that it's hard to type correctly when your angry. But am I typing correctly now? Yes. That's because I have no more anger. And your grammer wasn't that great in your last post either. So pay attention to who's calling the kettle black. I realize now that no matter HOW HARD I TRY to be Cat's friend, it's like banging my head against a brick wall. So come on Cat...Michelle...run your mouths. Because I FOR ONE, have nothing else to say here.

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Your right, I may have no busniess sticking my nose in this.. But atleast i know what friendship is.. I have been around in this world long enough.. been through enough. that I hate to see friends fight.. It just isn't worth it.. And if people choose to make up lies.. then why do they even dare to choose a friend to lie about? Do they get plesure from hurting people? huh? is that it? I for one don't have all the answers.. BUT i do however know what it is like to be left alone in the dark.. It isn't fun.. So I am just saying this as a warning.. And you.. the one that came back with that smart ass remark.. I could care less about your opion.. I didn't ask you anything about what was going on.. I was just simply making a statement for these two to read.. and you for one need to keep your nose out of business that might not invole you.. So heed your own warnings.. And besides.. I may be a stranger yes.. But i know stupidty when i see it.. so heh.. think about yourself.. look in the mirror.. and take that long look you may have never thought about.. ask yourself.. Why am I here? why do I have these friends? Ever thought about that? hm? guess not.. but anyway.. I will just sit here and read posts.. and I will wait and see what happens..
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Zell,

I was not trying to start something with you. IF you were on here long, you would know that I'm not a smart*** at you so elequently put it. In fact, I'm one of the least smart allick people on here.

I like both Angie and Cat, and I don't like to see them fighting. But, to read these boards back and forth, I wouldn't even guess as to everything that has transpired between them. Thus, I stay out of it and don't butt in. I too have been around the world a lot longer than most of the "kids" on here. I didn't say that they shouldn't work things out. I wish they could, but my point is that sometimes you can't always work everything out right then. Sometimes the best thing is to be apart for a while. If the friendship is worth saving, maybe the parties involved need some time to cool off and think about the entire situation without fuel being added to the fire. I have alot of life-long friends and we've had out problems. Sometimes we worked things out then, but sometimes we just had to be apart for a little while and try and look at things differently. And, without other people getting involved. More people involved just means more misunderstandings and fuel to the fire.

Cat and Angie: I hope you two can work things out, True Friendship is something to be treasured and not taken for granted. I don't think anyone on here wants you to be fighting. I know I don't. And, I don't think either one of you really wants to be fighting, either. Don't take anything I've said in any of my posts as bad about either of you. I was referring to people who are not directly involved (like myself) who try to give you all the answers. This is something between you and should be worked out between you two.

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That's just the thing angie I am not mad anymore. I wasn't mad when I posted what I did the other day. And as for my grammer, spell and that stuff...I have god reason it's not becasue I was mad that I was messing everying up, but I have a learning disabilty, and the classes didn't teach me much....or what they did teach like on a third grad level for english when I was a freashman in highschool. BUt that is neither here nor, there.

So I was wrong to get in the middle of this, but ya know what I saw how much it was hurting Cat. And yes Angie I am sure you were hurt as well. BUt I can't sit there while a fiend is hurting so bad, and not do anything for them. And if, you think I am adding fule to the fire I don't think i am. Cause that goes back to not wanting t hurt cat.


you know everything changes everbody changes. Maybe look if, there are any to look at the postives of this...So now you know a lil more about what you want and don't want in friends. I mean that ones hard becasue sometims you have to take the bad cause if it's really a good friend then you don't want to loose them. I hope you guys can work it out...or at the least come to a peaceful way to end it.


SO I live this thread with I am sorrrrrrrry!
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Okay, this is the last thing I have to say here...

Zell, you don't know either of us, and I don't give a damn what you think cause I don't know you.

Angie, just leave me alone. You say I lied and can't compete with you, but yet you're the one who keeps on throwing other issues into this. Yes I've made some mistakes and have no problem admitting to them. If in your eyes that's weakness, fine. But reading your last post, I really felt like you were writing about yourself. Wishful thinking, huh?

Kat, you were absolutely right in what you said. I know you were keeping out of whatever is going on with Angie and me, and you meant Zell.

Michelle, you did nothing wrong. I'm glad that you tried to support me. Unlike Zell you're not an outsider who knew none of us. I would have done the same thing for you. In fact I did the same thing for Angie not so long ago. Now I wish I hadn't.

Thank you to those who liked my fic, and thank you to those who told me they were on my side but decided to stay out of this. I really appreciate your support. I know I made a few mistakes myself here but that I'm not the one that's changed beyond repair.

So Angie, farewell, have a great life, whatever, I'm done with this.
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k, you guys are seriously scaring me! lol....i just came to read the fic...i read it...it was great...im gonna go now *runs away scared*


sorry if that was rude- i have no idea what's going on, but i hope everything works out for ya'll

PS- Cat, im sorry about your dog my neighbor's neighbor's dog killed my cat recently....

PSS- once again, i loved your fic!
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k, you guys are seriously scaring me! lol....i just came to read the fic...i read it...it was great...im gonna go now *runs away scared*


sorry if that was rude- i have no idea what's going on, but i hope everything works out for ya'll

PS- Cat, im sorry about your dog my neighbor's neighbor's dog killed my cat recently....

PSS- once again, i loved your fic!
Thank you, I'm sorry about your cat, that's horrible
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