Yeah, I'd definitely like to see some individual ratings here.

I agree. I guess we'll get a pretty good idea when they finally announce the schedule for next week. :lol: I expect to see Cosby gone and MWC cut back, with lame Andy Griffith on more. :rolleyes: I also think the movie on Thursday was a problem so maybe the Friday movie will be cut for good.

I would also strongly advocate cutting back on the SGTL airings. Is it really necessary to air it 3 times in 4 hours? :rolleyes: The encore at Midnight is fine I guess but the 10pm encore needs to go.

I agree. I guess we'll get a pretty good idea when they finally announce the schedule for next week. :lol: I expect to see Cosby gone and MWC cut back, with lame Andy Griffith on more. :rolleyes: I also think the movie on Thursday was a problem so maybe the Friday movie will be cut for good.

I would also strongly advocate cutting back on the SGTL airings. Is it really necessary to air it 3 times in 4 hours? :rolleyes: The encore at Midnight is fine I guess but the 10pm encore needs to go.

LOL - next week's schedule will definitely let us know. Hopefully things will be a bit more consistent, but I doubt it. I definitely expect a lot more Andy back in primetime, with Roseanne, Married With Children, and Cosby all cut back. It's hard to tell, though, what's doing even modestly well and what's a total bomb.

I don't see how all those SGTL encores will do well. And those commercials are so annoying - I swear I can't look at another one. They're burned into my head-lol

Didn't The Cosby Show air in primetime every day last week from 8-9 (except Friday)? I think it will go back to 2AM or heck, it could be used on BET maybe. I was thinking it would be huge for them but apparently not.

I wouldn't put it past them to do Hillbillies 7-8 and TAGS 8-10 again next week. The ratings were at 800k+ when they were doing that anyway, so it was working. Maybe Gunsmoke 2-4, Bonanza 4-6, and a sitcom (Beaver or Hogan's Heroes?) from 6-7. Beaver always did well as a lead-in to Andy Griffith.

I think MWC will continue to air sporadically until at least July when it resumes regular airing on Spike.

No, I don't think Cosby Show would fit on BET. They are geared more towards 20-35 with the shows they air and music video countdowns and shows like that.

No, I don't think Cosby Show would fit on BET. They are geared more towards 20-35 with the shows they air and music video countdowns and shows like that.OK I was just remembering them airing some older shows last year.

I wonder if they're going to expand paid programming to maybe 4AM-9AM or 5AM-9AM?? That's all I can think would be holding up a schedule change. All I know is each time a more recent show/shows is added, they always shift gears afterwards and go back to mainly 50s-70s. It doesn't make sense-- they add something new, and they wind up going back to the classics.

LOL, Roseanne just got a TV-Y7 rating. I've never seen that for any live-action sitcom. :lol: All the other episodes have been G(which really makes no sense by itself) or PG.

LOL, Roseanne just got a TV-Y7 rating. I've never seen that for any live-action sitcom. :lol: All the other episodes have been G(which really makes no sense by itself) or PG.LOL!!! Hey, are they going off the clock at 8 now? Out of curiosity I paid attention to the 8:30 Roseanne around 8:57 and it was still going after 9pm. They were in an airplane or something.

I don't know if this is a clue to next week's schedule, but they aren't listing MWC as a TV Land show like they added Roseanne last week. Seems they would have made a page for it as well if they planned on making it a fixture. I bet it will be gone or just down to a weekly marathon next week.

LOL!!! Hey, are they going off the clock at 8 now? Out of curiosity I paid attention to the 8:30 Roseanne around 8:57 and it was still going after 9pm. They were in an airplane or something.

I don't know if this is a clue to next week's schedule, but they aren't listing MWC as a TV Land show like they added Roseanne last week. Seems they would have made a page for it as well if they planned on making it a fixture. I bet it will be gone or just down to a weekly marathon next week.

Yes, 8pm has been off the clock all week. I suspect it'll be back to normal after the Roseanne marathon.

I really think MWC is just temporary, it's coming back to Spike next month. But it must not have done that awful last week or else why would it be airing 14 hours each day this weekend(also will be airing until 10pm both nights and leading into a SGTL encore on Saturday). Makes you wonder...

Married with Children is definitely temporary. I bet we'll see Andy Griffith replacing it after the Roseanne marathon.

Roseanne a TV-Y7 rating? What are they thinking?-lol

Yes, 8pm has been off the clock all week. I suspect it'll be back to normal after the Roseanne marathon.

I really think MWC is just temporary, it's coming back to Spike next month. But it must not have done that awful last week or else why would it be airing 14 hours each day this weekend(also will be airing until 10pm both nights and leading into a SGTL encore on Saturday). Makes you wonder...

What a joke :rolleyes: don't forget the SGTL sneak peek encore tonight at 9 during the Roseanne marathon :rolleyes: I've given up on a schedule for next week. I counted and they were #36 last week in primetime, but were #10 in 1999, tied with ESPN. take it to the bank, when the schedule is released they'll snap back and the schedule will be mostly classics replacing the newer shows. Never fails.

I wonder if Viacom's contract with MWC requires that they air it a certain amount during a certain amount of time and that's why it's airing on TV Land? It's like Scrubs. If it falters they can dump it, no biggie because it has somewhere else to go (unlike the old NAN shows). I'm sure we would have seen more hype about it if it wasn't temporary.

How bad of a rating is a TV-Y7

Aaron, a TV-Y7 is like what a little kid's show gets. Like cartoons or something. It's even below a TV-G, which I don't think Roseanne even is :lol:

Thanks I Am really don't know how The TV Ratings work's

Aaron, a TV-Y7 is like what a little kid's show gets. Like cartoons or something. It's even below a TV-G, which I don't think Roseanne even is :lol:

LOL, yeah, I've never seen a Y7 rating for anything that wasn't cartoons. G is pretty much the equal for any live action show(like Roseanne).

TV ratings vary by networks for some odd reason, over at N@N Family Matters gets a PG rating for almost every episode but it's far FAR more family friendly than Roseanne. :lol:

LOL, yeah, I've never seen a Y7 rating for anything that wasn't cartoons. G is pretty much the equal for any live action show(like Roseanne).

TV ratings vary by networks for some odd reason, over at N@N Family Matters gets a PG rating for almost every episode but it's far FAR more family friendly than Roseanne. :lol:

Roseanne is more like a PG-13 show for me-lol. Perhaps its a ploy by TV Land to bring in the younger viewers? ;) :lol:

Roseanne is more like a PG-13 show for me-lol. Perhaps its a ploy by TV Land to bring in the younger viewers? ;) :lol:Hey, they rate Sanford and Son and Good Times PG. I don't really understand why, especially Sanford and Son. It's PG but The Jeffersons are G? Huh? lol

Does anyone care to guess when Roseanne will be scheduled next week? :lol: I say 11PM-12AM with an encore maybe 3AM-4AM or something like that. Andy Griffith will be 8PM-10PM and maybe MASH 10PM-11PM. Given those ratings, it's clear the schedule probably won't be anything like it was last week.

Hey, they rate Sanford and Son and Good Times PG. I don't really understand why, especially Sanford and Son. It's PG but The Jeffersons are G? Huh? lol

Does anyone care to guess when Roseanne will be scheduled next week? :lol: I say 11PM-12AM with an encore maybe 3AM-4AM or something like that. Andy Griffith will be 8PM-10PM and maybe MASH 10PM-11PM. Given those ratings, it's clear the schedule probably won't be anything like it was last week.

It won't be long before Andy Griffith is the only show airing on the network-lol

I'd guess Andy Griffith at 8pm for sure, but everything else is open. Roseanne could stay at 9pm, or go to 10 or 11pm. MASH could come back, Married with Children could stay, there's definitely many things they could do.

It won't be long before Andy Griffith is the only show airing on the network-lol

I'd guess Andy Griffith at 8pm for sure, but everything else is open. Roseanne could stay at 9pm, or go to 10 or 11pm. MASH could come back, Married with Children could stay, there's definitely many things they could do.Those are very good points. I'm surprised they aren't mentioning Roseanne's actual timeslot next week during the marathon so viewers will know when to watch. This is so weird. Something obviously is going terribly, terribly wrong over there....being beat by Noggin?!?

I don't really see M*A*S*H being added between 9pm - 12am. They really don't want it to be within PRIME I don't think.

Roseanne is more like a PG-13 show for me-lol. Perhaps its a ploy by TV Land to bring in the younger viewers? ;) :lol:

LOL, same here. Some episodes aren't too adult(could easily pass for a simple PG rating, but no way should it be G, especially in the early seasons), but many are very adult and need a 14 rating. I remember in the past year anyway N@N was giving most episodes a G rating, and the one that stuck out most was one episode where as the TV-G rating flashes on screen we see Becky/Mark in bed together. :lol:

Anyway, I really have given up on TV Land's schedule next week. LOL. I have absolutely no clue what to expect, though I expect more Andy Griffith, Cosby to be gone, that odd M*A*S*H airing to be gone, and Roseanne to be about the same, while MWC will probably be cut back but not gone completely.

I don't really see M*A*S*H being added between 9pm - 12am. They really don't want it to be within PRIME I don't think.

I thought the same, but what PRIME shows are there to air in that time period? They need ratings in primetime badly, none of the PRIME shows (well we don't know about Roseanne yet) are ratings powerhouses like TAGS, M*A*S*H and Sanford and Son. Demographics may need to be tossed for a while to try and get the ratings back up.

I think Cosby will stay but be latenight. If MWC stays, I'm sure it will be gone in July.

LOL, same here. Some episodes aren't too adult(could easily pass for a simple PG rating, but no way should it be G, especially in the early seasons), but many are very adult and need a 14 rating. I remember in the past year anyway N@N was giving most episodes a G rating, and the one that stuck out most was one episode where as the TV-G rating flashes on screen we see Becky/Mark in bed together. :lol:

Anyway, I really have given up on TV Land's schedule next week. LOL. I have absolutely no clue what to expect, though I expect more Andy Griffith, Cosby to be gone, that odd M*A*S*H airing to be gone, and Roseanne to be about the same, while MWC will probably be cut back but not gone completely.

What episode was rated TV-Y7?? TV Land shouldn't even be allowed to use a TV-Y7 rating-lol.

Yeah, the schedule thing is a bust - perhaps they'll be using the same schedule they were using before the marathon? If they haven't announced it by now, what else coult it possibly be?

What episode was rated TV-Y7?? TV Land shouldn't even be allowed to use a TV-Y7 rating-lol.

Yeah, the schedule thing is a bust - perhaps they'll be using the same schedule they were using before the marathon? If they haven't announced it by now, what else coult it possibly be?I am starting to wonder the same thing. Remember though a lot of times they are late Friday afternoons releasing changes that start the following Monday. That schedule wasn't terribly bad.

But I don't think EM: HE will be coming back though, they seem to be getting their money's worth of that over at CMT. And I would think those Cosby marathons would be gone.

What episode was rated TV-Y7?? TV Land shouldn't even be allowed to use a TV-Y7 rating-lol.

Yeah, the schedule thing is a bust - perhaps they'll be using the same schedule they were using before the marathon? If they haven't announced it by now, what else coult it possibly be?

Thanksgiving '91. No other episodes had it so I just think it was a mistake, but it's still dumb. Many tonight had a PG rating.

and two weeks ago when the schedule for last week came out it was late on Friday Afternoon, so I definitely think it's still to come(and arguably last week was the best schedule they've had since Roseanne started, it was at least more consistent). I really hate the last-minute changes though. I guess there's a possibility it could be the same schedule as before last week but I doubt it.

Anyway... yay. Three hours of SGTL in 4 hours tomorrow night! I can't think of more thrilling TV. :rolleyes: I am so freaking sick of the CONSTANT annoying GRATING promos.

I'm not even bothering with the 8pm Roseanne's because of it. I'll watch Friends on TBS instead. :lol:

I know! I am SO SICK of those ads for that stupid show. I don't think any channel promotes the heck out of their originals like TV Land or maybe I don't notice because they aren't as annoying.

Pavan, any idea on TV Land next week yet?

Thanksgiving '91. No other episodes had it so I just think it was a mistake, but it's still dumb. Many tonight had a PG rating.

and two weeks ago when the schedule for last week came out it was late on Friday Afternoon, so I definitely think it's still to come(and arguably last week was the best schedule they've had since Roseanne started, it was at least more consistent). I really hate the last-minute changes though. I guess there's a possibility it could be the same schedule as before last week but I doubt it.

Anyway... yay. Three hours of SGTL in 4 hours tomorrow night! I can't think of more thrilling TV. :rolleyes: I am so freaking sick of the CONSTANT annoying GRATING promos.

I'm not even bothering with the 8pm Roseanne's because of it. I'll watch Friends on TBS instead. :lol:

Thanksgiving '91? Wow - that's one of the episodes I'd rate higher than PG-lol. Nice job, TV Land.

Hopefully the schedule will be coming sometime today, then. Last week's schedule was one of their better ones in awhile. At least it had variety. It just clearly bombed in the ratings.

Those promos are beyond annoying. There's about 3 of them, if not more, during every single commercial break. And it doesn't help when the commercials are like 6 minutes long :crazy:

No info yet for next week. Hopefully today, as I'm not here tomorrow.

The schedule for Monday and beyond is now completely blank. This is exactly what happened on May 29th before the June 1-4 schedule came out so stay tuned.

The schedule for Monday and beyond is now completely blank. This is exactly what happened on May 29th before the June 1-4 schedule came out so stay tuned.

I can't wait to see how all the time spent thinking by the TV Land execs will pay off this time :rolleyes: :lol:

HERE IT IS!

Effective Monday, June 15, 2009

Weekdays
6:00AM Paid Programming
9:00AM All in the Family
9:30AM Sanford and Son
10:00AM The Jeffersons
10:30AM The Jeffersons
11:00AM Good Times
11:30AM Good Times
12:00PM Leave it to Beaver
12:30PM Beverly Hillbillies
1:00PM Beverly Hillbillies
1:30PM Gunsmoke
2:30PM Gunsmoke
3:30PM Bonanza
4:30PM Bonanza
5:30PM Little House on the Prairie
7:00PM The Cosby Show
7:30PM The Cosby Show
8:00PM-11:00PM Married...with Children (Mon); Roseanne (Tues); The Cosby Show (Wed); Roseanne/She's Got the Look (Thurs); The Cosby Show/PRIME Movie (Fri)
11:00PM-4:00AM Roseanne (with some She's Got the Look encores)
4:00AM Three's Company
4:30AM Three's Company
5:00AM M*A*S*H
5:30AM M*A*S*H

No changes to weekends...though this weekend for Father's Day is now changed to the following:

Saturday June 20 - 9am-12pm Beverly Hillbillies, 12pm-10pm Andy Griffith Show, 10pm-12am Cosby Show, 1am-4am Roseanne, 4-6am Three's Company
Sunday, June 21 - 6-8am Gunsmoke, 8am-12pm Bonanza, 12pm-10pm Andy Griffith, 10pm-12am M*A*S*H, 12am-2am Married with Children, 2-3am Roseanne, 4-6am Little House

Is Andy running out of air plays? I don't know why else it would be taken off the weekday schedule. :confused:

What do you mean by Andy Running out of Air Plays.

Could it be that Andy was the ratings problem? It is nowhere on the schedule at all - I'm in complete shock :eek: And I think we know Roseanne is doing well - 11pm-4am?????? WOW thats a lot of Roseanne. I'm actually thrilled with it - I've been watching Roseanne all night this entire week, and now I don't have to stop!

Meanwhile, Cosby is moved back to 7pm, which may be a good idea. A lot of Roseanne in primetime, still, and Married with Children is still airing in its marathon format. Overall, if you love Roseanne, not a bad schedule at all :lol:

Could it be that Andy was the ratings problem? It is nowhere on the schedule at all - I'm in complete shock :eek: And I think we know Roseanne is doing well - 11pm-4am?????? WOW thats a lot of Roseanne. I'm actually thrilled with it - I've been watching Roseanne all night this entire week, and now I don't have to stop!

Meanwhile, Cosby is moved back to 7pm, which may be a good idea. A lot of Roseanne in primetime, still, and Married with Children is still airing in its marathon format. Overall, if you love Roseanne, not a bad schedule at all :lol:


Andy is on weekends. And next weekend it is on 12pm-10pm both days. And that could be on again for the following weekend. As of now, the schedule is through Friday, June 26. So, the weekend of June 27-28, could be the same as Father's Day weekend, too. If that is the case, Andy all weekend long practically from 12pm-10pm.

As for Roseanne, it's listed once in the 12am hour, so look for more off-the-clock scheduling. Also, it is only in primetime on Tuesdays from 8-11 and Thursdays 8-9pm.

I will be watching The Andy Griffith Marathron.

Holy cow... that's a LOT of Roseanne!!!!!! :eek: Interestingly not on in primetime as much anymore, but it doesn't bother me.

MWC from 4-5am? That's going to overlap with TBS some(a couple of 4:30 airings) and isn't that against the contract Spike had? Interesting that it's airing from 8-11 on Monday now.

The biggest surprise and best news is that Andy Griffith is nowhere to be found on weekdays!!!!!! I can't believe it! I thought for sure it'd be on MORE not less.

TV Land's online schedule is still blank, LOL.

You know, if they would dump off the clock this would be a pretty good schedule. It's at least somewhat consistent.

HERE IT IS!

Effective Monday, June 15, 2009

Weekdays
6:00AM Paid Programming
9:00AM All in the Family
9:30AM Sanford and Son
10:00AM The Jeffersons
10:30AM The Jeffersons
11:00AM Good Times
11:30AM Good Times
12:00PM Leave it to Beaver
12:30PM Beverly Hillbillies
1:00PM Beverly Hillbillies
1:30PM Gunsmoke
2:30PM Gunsmoke
3:30PM Bonanza
4:30PM Bonanza
5:30PM Little House on the Prairie
7:00PM The Cosby Show
7:30PM The Cosby Show
8:00PM-11:00PM Married...with Children (Mon); Roseanne (Tues); The Cosby Show (Wed); Roseanne/She's Got the Look (Thurs); The Cosby Show/PRIME Movie (Fri)
11:00PM-4:00AM Roseanne (with some She's Got the Look encores)
4:00AM Married...with Children
4:30AM Married...with Children
5:00AM M*A*S*H
5:30AM M*A*S*H

No changes to weekends...though this weekend for Father's Day is now changed to the following:

Saturday June 20 - 9am-12pm Beverly Hillbillies, 12pm-10pm Andy Griffith Show, 10pm-12am Cosby Show, 1am-4am Roseanne, 4-6am Three's Company
Sunday, June 21 - 8am-12pm Bonanza, 12pm-10pm Andy Griffith, 10pm-12am M*A*S*H, 12am-3am Married with Children, 4-6am Little House

The Andy Griffith Show has been on TV Land for 9 Year's now

WOAH!

ANDY GRIFFITH GONE????? Woah. I'm in shock. They are obviously low on plays or maybe they want it gone totally.

The more I think about it, TAGS should go to Hallmark when it expires, but I know they wouldn't do it. Andy Griffith would go great with Lucy/LHOTP/M*A*S*H and their audiences.

Has any Show lasted 9 Year's on TV Land.

Andy is still on heavily on weekends. Also, Married...with Children 4-5am weeknights is now Three's Company instead, I think they listed that mistakenly, since they cannot air it between 2-7am.

Has any Show lasted 9 Year's on TV Land.

Gunsmoke has been on since TV Land started in 1996

and I agree that if they didn't have off the clock, at least it would be more consistent even though "Andy" is one of their better shows

Andy is still on heavily on weekends. Also, Married...with Children 4-5am weeknights is now Three's Company instead, I think they listed that mistakenly, since they cannot air it between 2-7am.

I thought so. I much prefer the show on TBS anyway.

and if they want to air it, then why is Roseanne on til 4am every night instead? LOL. They could easily insert MWC into one of those hours at least. As it stands now it's only on 3 hours a week(and only on Mondays).

They want to air Married...with Children all they can. It's doing well.

Still, no Andy on weekdays is kinda shocking. I think TV Land is now turning to demos instead of total viewers. Andy, like MASH, must have been a low demo performer, while shows like Married and Roseanne do well in the demo. And, I think its pretty clear that Roseanne is strongest after 11pm - even with off the clock that's a lot of airings. I'm loving it!

Tuesday, June 23...there is an Andy weekday sighting from 8-9pm, with Roseanne from 9pm-4am. One-time-only probably. TV Land keeps releasing two week schedules. This one is thru Friday, 6/26 only as of now. So I cannot tell what is weekends yet. I bet you'll see the same schedule you see on 6/20-21 on 6/27-28 as well.

Gunsmoke has been on since TV Land started in 1996

and I agree that if they didn't have off the clock, at least it would be more consistent even though "Andy" is one of their better shows

Beaver has been airing since 1998, I believe.

This schedule, to me, signals pretty much the end of classic TV (other than the westerns) on TV Land except for mornings and afternoons. I wonder if 7PM-4AM will be called PRIME? They obviously want to move on from TAGS. I agree that it's probably met the same fate of S&S and M*A*S*H, both good performers.

This is off the wall, but with the big changes coming to NAN in July, I wonder if Home Improvement will make the jump to TV Land. They could air it 7-8 (move Cosby to 6-7) and encore it 4-5am and have a marathon. Just a thought.

Beaver has been airing since 1998, I believe.

This schedule, to me, signals pretty much the end of classic TV (other than the westerns) on TV Land except for mornings and afternoons. I wonder if 7PM-4AM will be called PRIME? They obviously want to move on from TAGS. I agree that it's probably met the same fate of S&S and M*A*S*H, both good performers.

This is off the wall, but with the big changes coming to NAN in July, I wonder if Home Improvement will make the jump to TV Land. They could air it 7-8 (move Cosby to 6-7) and encore it 4-5am and have a marathon. Just a thought.

They might as well just call 7pm-4am Roseanne Time-lol. If they add Home Improvement, they can just call it Nick at Nite :lol: Maybe that would attract more viewers ;)

They might as well just call 7pm-4am Roseanne Time-lol. If they add Home Improvement, they can just call it Nick at Nite :lol: Maybe that would attract more viewers ;)

:lol: Maybe Nick at Nite should take control of TV Land. With Cosby and Roseanne, it is very reminiscent of NAN in 2003, lol.....I think eventually they will just rename the network PRIME. If you look at the logo for it, the TV Land is in very small font.

This raises the question to me again as to if The Jeffersons or Green Acres will be renewed - I'm betting no to both. They have plenty of shows to fill the slots these would leave (well Acres isn't even airing) and it appears that they want evenings-late nights to be mostly 80s-90s shows.

:lol: Maybe Nick at Nite should take control of TV Land. With Cosby and Roseanne, it is very reminiscent of NAN in 2003, lol.....I think eventually they will just rename the network PRIME. If you look at the logo for it, the TV Land is in very small font.

This raises the question to me again as to if The Jeffersons or Green Acres will be renewed - I'm betting no to both. They have plenty of shows to fill the slots these would leave (well Acres isn't even airing) and it appears that they want evenings-late nights to be mostly 80s-90s shows.

I dont think theyd let go of The Jeffersons again, not yet. Its been airing at 10pm for a long time now, so it must be doing well there. But Green Acres - I'd be surprised if they renewed this.

PRIME might not be a bad name for this network. Lets face it - they are no TV Land anymore.

PRIME might not be a bad name for this network. Lets face it - they are no TV Land anymore.

I agree. When I think TV Land, I think of classic shows from the 1950s-1970s. If they want to air more recent shows -- fine -- but change the name. I've wondered sometimes if that PRIME block was to phase a new name in. BTW - this schedule means Brady Bunch and Star Trek are now on hiatus.

The departure of Andy Griffith pretty much marks the end of classic TV ruling the TV Land lineup, IMO. I'm betting Roseanne is doing decent enough and is getting better demos so they no longer need TAGS to rule the network. All they need is one recent show to be a hit (Roseanne?) and I bet we will see them stray further from the original TV Land. I think Hallmark and WGN America will probably be better places to find classic TV.

I agree. When I think TV Land, I think of classic shows from the 1950s-1970s. If they want to air more recent shows -- fine -- but change the name. I've wondered sometimes if that PRIME block was to phase a new name in. BTW - this schedule means Brady Bunch and Star Trek are now on hiatus.

The departure of Andy Griffith pretty much marks the end of classic TV ruling the TV Land lineup, IMO. I'm betting Roseanne is doing decent enough and is getting better demos so they no longer need TAGS to rule the network. All they need is one recent show to be a hit (Roseanne?) and I bet we will see them stray further from the original TV Land. I think Hallmark and WGN America will probably be better places to find classic TV.

Definitely - The Cosby Show, Married With Children, Roseanne - they're all some of their most recent shows, and they're the only things in airing in primetime. They tried adding more classics like Beverly Hillbillies and Hogan's Heroes, but clearly those didn't do too hot.

I'm wondering if Home Improvement will be moving to TV Land soon, possibly even next month. It would actually make sense - Pavan said the NAN July schedule may be shocking. Perhaps Home Improvement will be leaving and moving to TV Land entirely?

Definitely - The Cosby Show, Married With Children, Roseanne - they're all some of their most recent shows, and they're the only things in airing in primetime. They tried adding more classics like Beverly Hillbillies and Hogan's Heroes, but clearly those didn't do too hot.

I'm wondering if Home Improvement will be moving to TV Land soon, possibly even next month. It would actually make sense - Pavan said the NAN July schedule may be shocking. Perhaps Home Improvement will be leaving and moving to TV Land entirely?

That is what I was wondering earlier. I asked TheLink about HI and he said he "didn't have any information" :rolleyes: but we know how quickly that could change. I bet it would work. To make the '90s shows work, all they needed was a breakout hit, and that has clearly been Roseanne. The other 90s shows they had (MAY, Murphy Brown, Wings) may not have faltered as badly now since they are getting a different audience. I wouldn't be surprised if 3rd Rock comes back to a late-night slot soon.

The Roseanne addition to TV Land has really changed the face of the network very quickly.

As far as The Jeffersons, I wonder if they may choose to NOT renew it because of the 2 new classics coming next year. With 7 or 8pm onward being more modern shows, the new shows will probably be airing in the late afternoon, morning, or midday.

They could easily bump up Good Times to 10am/10:30am and put perhaps Three's Company on at 11am/11:30am.

It would be cool to see a weekday sitcom block like this (it would be a great 1-stop-shop to catch all the classic sitcoms they have every weekday):

09:00am- All in the Family
09:30am- Sanford and Son
10:00am- The Jeffersons
10:30am- Good Times
11:00am- Three's Company
11:30am- The Brady Bunch
12:00pm- Leave it to Beaver
12:30pm- The Andy Griffith Show
01:00pm- Beverly Hillbillies
01:30pm- Hogan's Heroes

(if The Jeffersons is not renewed, could bump up everything 1/2 an hour starting at 10am and air 2 episodes of Andy Griffith at 12pm)

Then
2pm-Gunsmoke
3/4pm- Bonanza
5pm- Little House on the Prairie
6pm- encores of The Andy Griffith Show from 12pm

In 2010- Good Times, The Brady Bunch and I think Little House are expiring- so with probably at least 2 of those not being renewed- it would free up some space for the new acquisitions.

Good schedule thoughts there but the problem is they cannot air LHOTP before 6.

Good schedule thoughts there but the problem is they cannot air LHOTP before 6.

Oh yeah...that's right...well back to weekends it goes. Probably could do Gunsmoke x2 at 2/3, Bonanza x2 at 4/5, then when the new sitcoms come in 2010, they could probably air those in the 5pm hour and sometime in the AM hours as well.

M*A*S*H also expires after August this year (that never seems to get mentioned with Green Acres/The Jeffersons). It does well it seems, but because of the time restrictions and the fact that it skews older than they are wanting to in prime-time- it hardly airs. Probably has a better chance than The Jeffersons. I think it's probably almost safe to assume Green Acres will not be back.

Good schedule thoughts there but the problem is they cannot air LHOTP before 6.How they are getting away with doing that before 6pm is beyond me. It starts at 5:50pm every night. If MASH isn't renewed, does that mean Hallmark gets full rights again if they renew?

I like that, b&tcfan. Personally I wonder if any of those 2010 shows will be renewed but who knows. TV Land is changing so fast, I wonder if That '70s Show will be on there soon? They already have rights to it over at The N. :eek: The more I think of it, I bet Home Improvement is a go pretty soon. I expect them to build on the concept of newer shows from 7pm-4am rather quickly.

edit: I agree, Acres is dead I think.

M*A*S*H expires in August it seems just like yesterday M*A*S*H Started on TV Land.

How they are getting away with doing that before 6pm is beyond me. It starts at 5:50pm every night. If MASH isn't renewed, does that mean Hallmark gets full rights again if they renew?

I like that, b&tcfan. Personally I wonder if any of those 2010 shows will be renewed but who knows. TV Land is changing so fast, I wonder if That '70s Show will be on there soon? They already have rights to it over at The N. :eek: The more I think of it, I bet Home Improvement is a go pretty soon. I expect them to build on the concept of newer shows from 7pm-4am rather quickly.

edit: I agree, Acres is dead I think.

Are the TV Land boards correct? Is Friends coming in 2012?! Now I'm a huge fan of the show but come on, I could buy it on N@N(though it is very adult, but then again so was Roseanne), but TV Land? It's still in local syndication for god's sake and just ended in 2004! It's also gonna be on TBS for years to come. Home Improvement is pretty new too I guess but it's already had time on N@N and at least it ended in the 90's. LOL

Friends will be a shared deal between MTVN and TBS I believe. (TBS will have it in the day, Nick/TV Land at night). To me Friends should just come straight to TV Land and skip Nick-at-Nite- doesn't fit with their more family-toned comedies. Roseanne may be adult-themed, but it does center around a family and it came to Nick-at-Nite back before they were doing the family-centric-only shows (they had Three's Company, Cheers, Wings on there when Roseanne arrived).

That 70's Show, on the other hand, seems better for Nick-at-Nite than TV Land. It seems like it would skew too young for TV Land.

Viacom acquired Friends in 2006 when TV Land/NAN were still together (before the family thing that started when Nick took over). I think they acquired The Nanny, Designing Women and Mad About You at the same time, also not family. Friends would best just go straight to TV Land, I agree. It just doesn't fit with NAN and what they're trying to do. '70s Show I agree should go to NAN, but they tried Scrubs on TV Land so who knows.

So M*A*S*H expires this August - I say they won't renew. They clearly don't want it in primetime, and since they can only air it 8PM-8AM, I don't think they would spend out money for a show that they probably wouldn't air until 2AM or something.

I shudder to think what this network will be like in a few years. Its certainly not TV Land anymore. :(

I think TV Land will be the same as it is now.

TV Land is DEFINITELY changing, there is no doubt about that. They are moving away from older family shows and shifting to newer adult shows, while N@N is for newer family shows(though it's always been for newer shows more than TV Land, which I think is the big change).

Are there any other shows coming this year?

TV Land is DEFINITELY changing, there is no doubt about that. They are moving away from older family shows and shifting to newer adult shows, while N@N is for newer family shows(though it's always been for newer shows more than TV Land, which I think is the big change).

Are there any other shows coming this year?I don't think so....but of course, they could always get something from NAN or add something last minute. I think Home Improvement will definately come, and they say That '70s Show and The Nanny are coming at some point.

I honestly hope they don't renew Andy Griffith later this year....I wouldn't mind seeing Hallmark pick it up (would be great along with Lucy, M*A*S*H, LHOTP). It's been on TV Land long enough and I don't think it fits the channel anymore and doesn't fit what they're wanting anymore..

I don't think so....but of course, they could always get something from NAN or add something last minute. I think Home Improvement will definately come, and they say That '70s Show and The Nanny are coming at some point.

I honestly hope they don't renew Andy Griffith later this year....I wouldn't mind seeing Hallmark pick it up (would be great along with Lucy, M*A*S*H, LHOTP). It's been on TV Land long enough and I don't think it fits the channel anymore and doesn't fit what they're wanting anymore..

NAN would be insane to give up The Nanny with it doing so well for them. I do think Home Improvement will come by the end of the year.

NAN would be insane to give up The Nanny with it doing so well for them. I do think Home Improvement will come by the end of the year.I agree about The Nanny. It wasn't even on NAN and they already had it scheduled to come to TV Land -- I don't think it'll be moving any time soon. Home Improvement, though, I could see by fall. I wouldn't put That '70s Show past them either by the end of the year, at least for a test.

I'm still in shock over TAGS being removed from weekdays. I wonder if that's what was bringing the ratings down?? I guess they figured the Roseanne/MWC/Cosby crowd likely wouldn't be in to that show.

I agree about The Nanny. It wasn't even on NAN and they already had it scheduled to come to TV Land -- I don't think it'll be moving any time soon. Home Improvement, though, I could see by fall. I wouldn't put That '70s Show past them either by the end of the year, at least for a test.

I'm still in shock over TAGS being removed from weekdays. I wonder if that's what was bringing the ratings down?? I guess they figured the Roseanne/MWC/Cosby crowd likely wouldn't be in to that show.

I'm not sure if it's overall viewers or demos. I'm sure Andy Griffith skews extremely old, while Roseanne/MWC and Cosby skew younger which is why they are the only shows in primetime now.

I'm not sure if it's overall viewers or demos. I'm sure Andy Griffith skews extremely old, while Roseanne/MWC and Cosby skew younger which is why they are the only shows in primetime now.

TV Land must be thinking with NBC, in that they're accepting better demos for less viewers. Andy Griffith has to skew extremely old, just like every other classic show.

TV Land must be thinking with NBC, in that they're accepting better demos for less viewers. Andy Griffith has to skew extremely old, just like every other classic show.

Indeed.

TV Land is running promos tonight for Roseanne "weeknights at 9" FAIL! The only night it's on at 9 for the next 2 weeks is Tuesday. :rolleyes:

Edit to add: I now remember again how much I hate the last season of Roseanne. It moved so far from the original focus once they won the lottery(being a struggling blue collar family). Dan's heart attack really should have been the end.

I agree, Andy Griffith probably skews too old for them so they probably decided to just yank it. I'm shocked, though, that they didn't air it at 12PM or something and chose Beaver or Beverly Hillbillies instead. TheLink said earlier this week that from what he heard from a meeting, Roseanne was doing well, so it's probably going to become the main show for them now since the demos are good and it is doing well. Before long I bet Gunsmoke and Bonanza will be cut back because of demos.
I wonder if PRIME will now be 7PM-4AM?

As I've said, I think Hallmark and WGN America will become the new 'classic TV' networks, but probably not entirely. Both don't have such corporate pressure like Viacom and seem to show interest in older shows, more than TV Land.

I agree, Andy Griffith probably skews too old for them so they probably decided to just yank it. I'm shocked, though, that they didn't air it at 12PM or something and chose Beaver or Beverly Hillbillies instead. TheLink said earlier this week that from what he heard from a meeting, Roseanne was doing well, so it's probably going to become the main show for them now since the demos are good and it is doing well. Before long I bet Gunsmoke and Bonanza will be cut back because of demos.
I wonder if PRIME will now be 7PM-4AM?

As I've said, I think Hallmark and WGN America will become the new 'classic TV' networks, but probably not entirely. Both don't have such corporate pressure like Viacom and seem to show interest in older shows, more than TV Land.
Hallmark can probably do pretty much whatever they want to do simply because they're part of a gigantic company that makes most of its money elsewhere, with the greeting cards and stuff. I'm sure ratings are a big deal to them (obviously...Cheers can vouch for that), but they obviously don't give two squats about demos at all. I say bravo! I wish other channels could afford to be as bold.

Hallmark can probably do pretty much whatever they want to do simply because they're part of a gigantic company that makes most of its money elsewhere, with the greeting cards and stuff. I'm sure ratings are a big deal to them (obviously...Cheers can vouch for that), but they obviously don't give two squats about demos at all. I say bravo! I wish other channels could afford to be as bold.

I agree! They are my favorite cable channel right now. I love GG, ILL, and LHOTP. I bet their demos wouldn't be touched by most networks but they don't care :lol: and I applaud them for that. Heck, sitcoms from the '60s that TV Land thinks are too old would probably get better demos. Their ratings are very good (much higher than TV Land), Cheers seems to be the only weak link and at least it gets a daily airing (unlike TV Land's treatment of it frequently).

edit: just saw this from TheLink:

The programming department is working on revamping the entire schedule. For the next couple of weeks, The Andy Griffith Show likely will only air on the weekends. Then, it is scheduled to return to the weekday line-up in July. As always, I will post updated schedules as they become available on the Schedule Updates board.

I don't think Andy Griffith will go anywhere, really no question about its renewal later this year. The demos for it are too old for what they're wanting in primetime, but are fine for the other dayparts. I think it and the 2 westerns will continue to dominate afternoons/very early evenings for some time to come.

edit: just saw this from TheLink:

Oh yay... more schedule changes. :rolleyes: Can't they PICK A DAMN SCHEDULE AND STICK WITH IT ALREADY?!

If I were them, I'd try this in the fall for PRIME....I bet M*A*S*H won't be renewed and Home Improvement will come, and MWC will be permenant since it seems to be doing well. Just make it all night.

PRIME
7-8PM The Cosby Show
8-9PM Home Improvement
9-11PM Roseanne
11-12AM Married With Children
12-1AM Home Improvement
1-2AM Roseanne
2-3AM The Cosby Show

I think that's how PRIME should be done, given what they have to work with. Have Andy 6-7PM. I'd like to slide 3rd Rock From the Sun in there somewhere, I guess it could air outside of PRIME from 3-4AM.

This is what the weekend of the 27th/28th looks like:

Saturday, June 27th

6AM Grease 2
8:30-10AM Beverly Hillbillies
10-12PM She's Got The Look Encores
12-1PM Leave it to Beaver
1-2PM Andy Griffith
2-7PM Gunsmoke 2x/Bonanza 3x
7-8PM Andy Griffith
8PM Grease
10:30-12AM Cosby Show
12-1AM SGTL Encore
1-4AM Roseanne
4-6AM Three's Company


Sunday, June 28th

6AM Star Trek
7AM Gunsmoke
8-10AM Bonanza
10AM Hogan's Heroes
10:30-2PM Beverly Hillbillies
2-7PM Gunsmoke 2X/Bonanza 3X
7-9PM Andy Griffith
9-12AM M*A*S*H
12-2AM Roseanne
2-3AM Brady Bunch
3AM SGTL Encore
4-6AM Little House on the Prairie

So there won't be a marathon that weekend. What's with the movie on Saturdays at 8PM? I wonder if they'll start airing movies on Saturday nights in July.

Scrubs back on? YUCK!!!! Three's Company, Hogan's Heroes, Green Acres being gone & less Andy. Sad. I want the old shows back! They claim they are trying to reach the 40 somethings. We'll I'm a late 40 something and trust me we don't want the newer shows. We want eth 50/60's & 70's shows. No newer stuff or reality stuff. We got one good channel on tv & they want to mess it up. Yuck. They need to go back to how it was when they first started & had all the good old stuff on there and retromercials. WGN Retro Sundays nites is a real Godsend...

TV Land promos fail... they are still running promos for Roseanne "Weeknights at 9" but as I said earlier, the only night it's on at 9 is the Tuesday marathon.

They are also running promos for the MWC marathon tomorrow night, the problem is they are saying it STARTS at 10, when that's really the last hour of it(it runs from 8-11 and then Roseanne is on). :rolleyes:

4th of July weekend is supposed to be Roseanne all night both nights.

TV Land promos fail... they are still running promos for Roseanne "Weeknights at 9" but as I said earlier, the only night it's on at 9 is the Tuesday marathon.

They are also running promos for the MWC marathon tomorrow night, the problem is they are saying it STARTS at 10, when that's really the last hour of it(it runs from 8-11 and then Roseanne is on). :rolleyes:

4th of July weekend is supposed to be Roseanne all night both nights.

I know! And we know MWC won't start at 10pm either. :rolleyes: I find it strange they are calling this a "Classic Marathon"....should it really be called that? Maybe just "PRIME Marathon" or "Weekend Marathon." Wouldn't exactly call it a classic. At least they aren't doing marathons next weekend, they get old IMO

I know! And we know MWC won't start at 10pm either. :rolleyes: I find it strange they are calling this a "Classic Marathon"....should it really be called that? Maybe just "PRIME Marathon" or "Weekend Marathon." Wouldn't exactly call it a classic. At least they aren't doing marathons next weekend, they get old IMO

How about just a marathon? lol. TV Land doesn't know how to do a single thing. They can't change a simple promo to 11pm? Is it really that hard to do?

They seem to be loving Roseanne in latenight, though. It must be doing well there. I'd love to see some marathon ratings if possible.

How about just a marathon? lol. TV Land doesn't know how to do a single thing. They can't change a simple promo to 11pm? Is it really that hard to do?

They seem to be loving Roseanne in latenight, though. It must be doing well there. I'd love to see some marathon ratings if possible.

Julie, TV By The Numbers will have their ratings for primetime last week (which was entirely Roseanne except for SGTL) so that would be a pretty good picture.

I wish they would just get a schedule and stick to it. No offense to Roseanne, but 11pm-4am plus the marathon is a bit much. They should go ahead and add Home Improvement, as we all know it's coming sooner or later. It would at least give some more variety and with NAN adding 2 new shows, it's bound to be squeezed out at some point.

Julie, TV By The Numbers will have their ratings for primetime last week (which was entirely Roseanne except for SGTL) so that would be a pretty good picture.

I wish they would just get a schedule and stick to it. No offense to Roseanne, but 11pm-4am plus the marathon is a bit much. They should go ahead and add Home Improvement, as we all know it's coming sooner or later. It would at least give some more variety and with NAN adding 2 new shows, it's bound to be squeezed out at some point.

Okay, I'll definitely be looking out for those numbers.

I do agree that all that Roseanne is too much. Home Improvement would add tons of variety to the schedule, which is pretty sad, isn't it? But, I don't have a problem with Roseanne airing all night every night - I've been watching it like crazy during the marathon, and will continue to watch as long as it doesn't get pulled.

Part of watching TV on rerun networks is habit. You can't develop a habit of watching this network anymore! Not only is their primetime a total mess, but they alter their schedule on a whim--sometimes even the digital TV Guide is not up to date! They need to find who was programming this network 10 years ago, and bring them back...

Well if M*A*S*H Does leave TV Land it still going to be on both Hallmark and Ion

Numbers are in! In prime time TV Land was #34 last week, coming in with 566,000 viewers, up a little from last week. I would guess Roseanne did OK and She's Got The Look probably helped (it did really well last year). Still this is well below what they have been at (around 800k) for a long time and the ranking is pathetic....still beat by Noggin. Prime time was Roseanne and SGTL last week.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/06/16/usa-settles-in-on-top-cable-network-prime-time/20774

Numbers are in! In prime time TV Land was #34 last week, coming in with 566,000 viewers, up a little from last week. I would guess Roseanne did OK and She's Got The Look probably helped (it did really well last year). Still this is well below what they have been at (around 800k) for a long time and the ranking is pathetic....still beat by Noggin. Prime time was Roseanne and SGTL last week.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/06/16/usa-settles-in-on-top-cable-network-prime-time/20774

Ouch... not good at all.
I'm guessing Roseanne did better after 11pm which is why it's now on less in primetime but on every night for hours after 11.

Primetime was slightly better than total day. Still odd how they are down so much, though. Perhaps it was all those She's got the Look repeats that were bringing it down? I can't imagine any of them doing wel, except for the original airing Thursday at 9pm.

Clearly Roseanne is no breakout hit, but it must be doing well past 11pm.

Break-out hit?

I think those numbers are pretty pathetic, personally. Whatever they were doing back in March getting them 900k viewers was working. What they are doing now is not working. I think they want to air Roseanne but it isn't doing great. If it was, we would be seeing 2 hours of it in primetime like we always saw Andy Griffith.

M*A*S*H launch week in January 2007 got 1.3 million viewers. There is no PR about Roseanne. Not even one for SGTL, which surprises me because it was huge last year. The ratings started tumbling when the newer shows came in to prominence last month. I think the network needs a massive overhaul for the new shows to work.

I'm a huge fan of Roseanne but there is no way it's a breakout hit. Last week was the real test for the show since the marathon was going to be original launch and it was heavily promoted unlike the erratic first 3 weeks of random timeslots. Those numbers are downright awful IMO. I'm guessing it must not be a total bomb though, because it's airing for 5 hours each night after primetime.

Fact of the matter is... ratings have gotten worse and worse every week since Roseanne came and since the off the clock started. I don't know which is more at fault but it's probably a combination of both, and the fact the schedule changes 100 times a week.

I'm a huge fan of Roseanne but there is no way it's a breakout hit. Last week was the real test for the show since the marathon was going to be original launch and it was heavily promoted unlike the erratic first 3 weeks of random timeslots. Those numbers are downright awful IMO. I'm guessing it must not be a total bomb though, because it's airing for 5 hours each night after primetime.

Fact of the matter is... ratings have gotten worse and worse every week since Roseanne came and since the off the clock started. I don't know which is more at fault but it's probably a combination of both, and the fact the schedule changes 100 times a week.

I agree. If it was doing well, they would have kept the 9-10pm slot I think. I bet the 11pm-4am thing will be gone next month with it airing maybe 12am-1am or something and encoring later. Personally I don't think The Cosby Show is doing that great either, but it's airing somehow. Same for Married With Children, I would think we would be seeing it sometime regularly between 8pm-2am instead of a marathon if it was doing really well. They are attempting to modernize a network that has been known across the board as a classic TV network for 13 years overnight and it's going terribly wrong.

I wonder what will become of TV Land.

I agree. If it was doing well, they would have kept the 9-10pm slot I think. I bet the 11pm-4am thing will be gone next month with it airing maybe 12am-1am or something and encoring later. Personally I don't think The Cosby Show is doing that great either, but it's airing somehow. Same for Married With Children, I would think we would be seeing it sometime regularly between 8pm-2am instead of a marathon if it was doing really well. They are attempting to modernize a network that has been known across the board as a classic TV network for 13 years overnight and it's going terribly wrong.

I wonder what will become of TV Land.

What I didn't get about the schedule for this week is MWC... Pav said they wanted it to air as much as possible but it's not. It's only airing one night a week regularly and they can air it up til 2am, so they could have easily taken away at least one of Roseanne's hours before then and aired it every night if it was doing that well. 12-1am or 1-2am...

Some interesting notes from last night I observed:

The 9pm MWC started on time, off the clock started after that(so the 8pm hour was entirely on the clock). The 3am Roseanne's(the final hour) were both on the clock, but the rest in between all ran close to 33 minutes.

What I didn't get about the schedule for this week is MWC... Pav said they wanted it to air as much as possible but it's not. It's only airing one night a week regularly and they can air it up til 2am, so they could have easily taken away at least one of Roseanne's hours before then and aired it every night if it was doing that well. 12-1am or 1-2am...

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I don't think it's doing that great....I'll just say it, Roseanne and MWC have probably been flops. M*A*S*H's launch got over 2x as more viewers than the Roseanne one. We would be seeing them more at better times if they were doing well. MWC would be airing regularly if it was doing that well. I think Viacom wants to air Roseanne and TV Land is pretty much their only place to show it.
We definately know the schedule will be different next month (according to TheLink). I bet MWC will be gone next month when it goes back to Spike.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I don't think it's doing that great....I'll just say it, Roseanne and MWC have probably been flops. M*A*S*H's launch got over 2x as more viewers than the Roseanne one. We would be seeing them more at better times if they were doing well. MWC would be airing regularly if it was doing that well. I think Viacom wants to air Roseanne and TV Land is pretty much their only place to show it.
We definately know the schedule will be different next month (according to TheLink). I bet MWC will be gone next month when it goes back to Spike.

I also think MWC will be gone. I never really thought it was anything more than a temporary show until it comes back to Spike in the first place. It only had a regular timeslot for one week(two weeks ago), the rest of the time it was just a Thursday marathon(now a Monday marathon), plus the big weekend marathon that just ended.

BTW, watching right now and they aren't calling it "TV Land Prime", based on that and last night it's from 9-12, as opposed to 8-11 like everyone else. LOL

I also think MWC will be gone. I never really thought it was anything more than a temporary show until it comes back to Spike in the first place. It only had a regular timeslot for one week(two weeks ago), the rest of the time it was just a Thursday marathon(now a Monday marathon), plus the big weekend marathon that just ended.

BTW, watching right now and they aren't calling it "TV Land Prime", based on that and last night it's from 9-12, as opposed to 8-11 like everyone else. LOLI know!! Roseanne is definately a PRIME show. It should be PRIME until 4am.

Here's some ratings info from TheLink, just about SGTL. He said it was down from last year. I asked about Roseanne


The first episode of She's Got the Look was a disappointment. But, the programmers are hoping that it will pick up in the second week.


TV Land, if they want to succeed with newer shows, is going to need to be revamped (like TNN to Spike, Court TV to TruTV, etc). I just think people have shows from the 50s-70s associated with TV Land and that's what they expect, and these newer shows are confusing them. Shows like Cosby, MWC, Roseanne (which was doing great on NAN even when it left) should be doing well on cable. So far every show from the mid 80s-on just doesn't do that well.

I know!! Roseanne is definately a PRIME show. It should be PRIME until 4am.

Here's some ratings info from TheLink, just about SGTL. He said it was down from last year.

LOL, that surprises me given the CONSTANT promos but I guess with overall viewership down that's less people seeing them anyway.

Hopefully if it continues to do poorly they'll drop at least one of the same night encores which I find dumb. It didn't work for Cougar either(come to think of it... have ANY of the originals done well?). Not to mention it airs about 20,000 times during the week which I'm sure doesn't help.

I think they do that so it will be on at 9pm in the main timezones (ET, CT, PT)....but I do see that there isn't a 12am tomorrow night.

According to the TV Land boards the highest rated shows are still Andy Griffith, M*A*S*H, Bonanza, and Gunsmoke. I guess next would Sanford and Son, Beverly Hillbillies and Leave it to Beaver are also still hits but they all skew very old. I don't think the ratings are going to tick up any until the PRIME shows are gone or cut back drastically, they are the ones not working which surprises me, because they've always done well in syndication before.

I know!! Roseanne is definately a PRIME show. It should be PRIME until 4am.

Here's some ratings info from TheLink, just about SGTL. He said it was down from last year. I asked about Roseanne



TV Land, if they want to succeed with newer shows, is going to need to be revamped (like TNN to Spike, Court TV to TruTV, etc). I just think people have shows from the 50s-70s associated with TV Land and that's what they expect, and these newer shows are confusing them. Shows like Cosby, MWC, Roseanne (which was doing great on NAN even when it left) should be doing well on cable. So far every show from the mid 80s-on just doesn't do that well.

They need to spin off the Prime type shows to a new network, or to another poorer-performing network. Then they could return TVL to what is was, since you say that is what people expect (I buy that.) In any case, within 1 year we probably will see a major shuffle.

Looking at the ratings, it appears that their Prime schedule is dragging them down. Although their whole-day number is lower than theier Prime number, their overall position is better than their Prime position.

Roseanne is clearly NOT a breakout hit. But, like I said, it must be doing well in latenight, as its just about the only show airing then. But they're clearly doing something wrong. She's Got the Look did well last year, so why was it a disappointment this year? Why are their primetime ratings down? The programmers over at TV Land are just not getting it.

Their first step should be to stop this erratic off-the-clock stuff. It's ruining them, IMO. Next step should be to have a more balanced schedule. Bring back Andy Griffith and MASH if need be. Cut down the airings of Roseanne, and try to be more like Nick at Nite.

I think the ratings problem has more to do with the network, not the shows. People just aren't watching TV Land anymore, and that's their biggest problem.

I would love to see Show's like

The Adams Family
Car 54 Where are You
The Donna Reed Show
F-Troop
Get Smart along with other great show's from the 60's

Roseanne is clearly NOT a breakout hit. But, like I said, it must be doing well in latenight, as its just about the only show airing then. But they're clearly doing something wrong. She's Got the Look did well last year, so why was it a disappointment this year? Why are their primetime ratings down? The programmers over at TV Land are just not getting it.

Their first step should be to stop this erratic off-the-clock stuff. It's ruining them, IMO. Next step should be to have a more balanced schedule. Bring back Andy Griffith and MASH if need be. Cut down the airings of Roseanne, and try to be more like Nick at Nite.

I think the ratings problem has more to do with the network, not the shows. People just aren't watching TV Land anymore, and that's their biggest problem.

I totally agree. Remember latenight is less demanding, and I'm sure Viacom wants to air it, so that's a good place to put it, but I don't think they would be airing it that much if it was bombing. Remember they can't air it daytime/evenings.

TV Land has become such a mess over the last few years. Every show they have tried (except for Cheers, maybe) from the 1980s on has been a disaster. I'm sure Andy, M*A*S*H, Sanford, westerns, Hillbillies, Beaver are their highest rated shows still. I would be airing those in evenings/primetime at least during the summer to keep the ratings up, then worry about demos in the fall. The newer shows don't work. That's why I think for those to work well, they need a name change and revamp. People don't associate them with TV Land.

Oh God... the schedule for next week is now completely blank on TV Land's website(it previously had this week's schedule complete with most of the episodes listed). I guess we can expect a totally different schedule next week now... I thought this schedule would at least last more than a week. :rolleyes:

I'm so over this entire network. No wonder it's ratings suck.

The changes are just for next weekend. These are the changes:

Saturday, June 27:
6:00am PRIME Movie: Grease 2
8:30am She's Got The Look encore
9:30am-8:00pm Married...with Children
8:00pm PRIME Movie: Grease
10:30pm-12:30am Roseanne
12:30am She's Got The Look encore
1:30am-4:00am Roseanne
4:00am-6:00am Three's Company

Sunday, June 28:
6:00am-7:00am The Brady Bunch
7:00am She's Got The Look encore
8:00am-2:00am Married...with Children
2:00am-3:00am Roseanne
3:00am She's Got The Look encore
4:00am-6:00am Little House on the Prairie

Oh God... the schedule for next week is now completely blank on TV Land's website(it previously had this week's schedule complete with most of the episodes listed). I guess we can expect a totally different schedule next week now... I thought this schedule would at least last more than a week. :rolleyes:

I'm so over this entire network. No wonder it's ratings suck.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Edit...so next week isn't changing? Surprised at that MWC, but I still don't think it's staying.

The changes are just for next weekend. These are the changes:

Saturday, June 27:
6:00am PRIME Movie: Grease 2
8:30am She's Got The Look encore
9:30am-8:00pm Married...with Children
8:00pm PRIME Movie: Grease
10:30pm-12:30am Roseanne
12:30am She's Got The Look encore
1:30am-4:00am Roseanne
4:00am-6:00am three's Company

Sunday, June 28:
6:00am-7:00am The Brady Bunch
7:00am She's Got The Look encore
8:00am-2:00am Married...with Children
2:00am-3:00am Roseanne
3:00am She's Got The Look encore
4:00am-6:00am She's Got the Look encore

Damn at all the MWC. It must have been HUGE this past weekend. 18 hours on that Sunday!!!!!!!! 28 1/2 hours total over 2 days! :eek:

Andy Griffith is nowhere to be found either.

Good More Married With Children

Damn at all the MWC. It must have been HUGE this past weekend. 18 hours on that Sunday!!!!!!!! 28 1/2 hours total over 2 days! :eek:

Andy Griffith is nowhere to be found either.Wow. Sunday they are pretty much airing it as much as they can. I still don't understand though, if it's doing well, why aren't we seeing it daily? It could easily air in primetime or 12am-1am. Are they that dumb? Or maybe this is a promotional thing for Spike?

Andy Griffith is a shock. That means at least 9 days of it not airing at ALL. WOW.

Wow. Sunday they are pretty much airing it as much as they can. I still don't understand though, if it's doing well, why aren't we seeing it daily? It could easily air in primetime or 12am-1am. Are they that dumb? Or maybe this is a promotional thing for Spike?

Yeah, I don't get that either.

I can't believe that change really. If they wouldn't have off the clock I could tolerate MWC on TV Land(much prefer it on TBS for that reason).

See July thread for first 2 weeks of July schedule.

Just noticed a couple of minor changes when I was double checking the upcoming Roseanne episodes:

The Midnight Thursday SGTL encore is gone effective TONIGHT. It will now be on from 9-11 only. Another hour of Roseanne will fill the slot so Roseanne is now 11-4 on this night as well(only it's on the clock so there's an extra episode).

On Friday June 26 ONLY the schedule is this

8-9 Roseanne
9-11:30 Grease
11:30-2 Grease 2
2-3 SGTL encore
3-4 Roseanne

This Friday Cosby is still on from 8-9 with the movie 9-11 and then SGTL/Roseanne

Blog story on TV Land changes:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2009/06/tv-land-adds-married-with-children.html

When is TV Land going to start airing Roseanne in order? It seems like they're hand-picking the "cleaner" episodes from the earlier seasons, slapping a G-rating on them, and ignoring A LOT of great episodes throughout the nine year run. I hate how they're airing the show.

When is TV Land going to start airing Roseanne in order? It seems like they're hand-picking the "cleaner" episodes from the earlier seasons, slapping a G-rating on them, and ignoring A LOT of great episodes throughout the nine year run. I hate how they're airing the show.

They are going in much better order now only skipping episodes that have already aired(during the marathon or the random episodes before that). They are in Season 3 now and will be flying through 4, 5, and 6 over the next 10 days because it's airing so many episodes a night. They have already aired Stash from the Past, Be My Baby, Homeward Bound, and The Driver's Seat, which are some of the most controversial episodes they had. I can't believe they are slapping a G rating on most of them though to be honest(those got a PG rating at least). They will have aired every episode by my count through all of the series by July 12th(Pilot airs at 2:30am on July 13th after the finale).

According to TheLink TV Land now releases schedules every 2 weeks, apparently.

Here is a grid with off the clock times listed for next week:
http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=108

The Married... marathon will be off the clock 3PM-8PM Saturday, 8AM-1PM Sunday, then 8PM-3AM Sunday night (well 2-3am is Roseanne 2X).

The next weekend will be on the clock, but the Roseanne 4th of July will be off 9PM-4AM. http://forums.tvland.com/tvln/board/message?board.id=2038&thread.id=109

Well that's an obvious statement by them, because I have kept saying the 2 week thing for a while now.

Well that's an obvious statement by them, because I have kept saying the 2 week thing for a while now.Yeah...well at least he has stopped saying he 'doesn't have that information' and says that they schedule every 2 weeks now. I don't get the 2-week point anyway.

Doesn't look like off the clock is going anywhere :rolleyes: maybe the second 2 weeks, but I doubt it. Oh well, not watching them anyway except for the weekend mini-marathons which are at least on the clock in July.

Well they're off the clock tonight :rolleyes: Andy Griffith just came on at 9:36PM. I don't think it was last night.

Sorry to keep posting after myself :lol: but I felt this needed posting...ratings for TV Land last week:

Week of 6/14-6/20:

Primetime - 661,000 viewers
Daytime - 577,000 viewers

That was a nice bump for primetime - I wonder what helped it. I would think the Married With Children marathon didn't hurt and the variety (although little, but a bit more than all Roseanne) also. Thanks to Bill from TVByTheNumbers for providing these, as they don't list all of the cable networks anymore (just top 20).

Sorry to keep posting after myself :lol: but I felt this needed posting...ratings for TV Land last week:

Week of 6/14-6/20:

Primetime - 661,000 viewers
Daytime - 577,000 viewers

That was a nice bump for primetime - I wonder what helped it. I would think the Married With Children marathon didn't hurt and the variety (although little, but a bit more than all Roseanne) also. Thanks to Bill from TVByTheNumbers for providing these, as they don't list all of the cable networks anymore (just top 20).

That is interesting. And, primetime is doing better than daytime. Were there less SGTL airings that might have brought up the averages? Perhaps Roseanne is finally catching on?

Julie, Roseanne was not on much in primetime. Why do you bring it back to always Roseanne, lol? You have to remember primetime is only 8-11pm. Daytime is 11pm-8pm, that's a bigger time and that counts the overnight period (and not to mention Paid Programming) where TV Land probably does less than 200 or 300,000 viewers. Bonanza does like a million or so in the daytime, better than really anything but a few shows. Roseanne can't even do a million.

This is what aired on primetime last week:
June 15-21
8:00PM-11:00PM
Married...with Children (Mon); Roseanne (Tues); The Cosby Show/She's Got the Look encore (Wed); Roseanne/She's Got the Look new/encore (Thurs); The Cosby Show/PRIME Movie (Fri)
8PM-10PM Andy Griffith Show & 10-11PM The Cosby Show (Sat); 8PM-10PM Andy Griffith Show & 10-11PM M*A*S*H (Sun)

Julie, Roseanne was not on much in primetime. Why do you bring it back to always Roseanne, lol? You have to remember primetime is only 8-11pm. Daytime is 11pm-7pm, that's a bigger time and that counts the overnight period where TV Land probably does less than 200 or 300,000 viewers. Bonanza does like a million or so in the daytime, better than really anything but a few shows. Roseanne can't even do a million.

This is what aired on primetime last week:
June 15-21
8:00PM-11:00PM
Married...with Children (Mon); Roseanne (Tues); The Cosby Show/She's Got the Look encore (Wed); Roseanne/She's Got the Look new/encore (Thurs); The Cosby Show/PRIME Movie (Fri)
8PM-10PM Andy Griffith Show & 10-11PM The Cosby Show (Sat); 8PM-10PM Andy Griffith Show & 10-11PM M*A*S*H (Sun)

I bet Andy Griffith brought up the ratings on the weekend.

Pavan, do you have exact ratings for all these shows? you keep talking as if you know what every show on TV Land does in the ratings, yet I never see any actual information, something I'd really like to see.

I know the basics, but am not allowed to post it. I'll tell you right now Roseanne is not anywhere a hit for this network. Married with Children does very well and it is too bad they can't air it regularly. I think they just want PRIME to catch on and will sacrifice ratings for it. They are one big show away from success (The Simpsons I tell you!).

I know the basics, but am not allowed to post it. I'll tell you right now Roseanne is not anywhere a hit for this network. Married with Children does very well and it is too bad they can't air it regularly. I think they just want PRIME to catch on and will sacrifice ratings for it. They are one big show away from success (The Simpsons I tell you!).

The Simpsons could definitely do it. It doesn't seem like their type of a show, but it would definitely bring in viewers.

I wonder why MWC is working better than Roseanne? Both have done well on different networks in the past and Roseanne has had more advertising/airings on TV Land.

I personally like MWC better, but am just puzzled to why Roseanne is not working?

More proof:

Married...with Children will air this Thursday (June 25) leading into She's Got the Look from 5:52PM-9:00PM ET/PT (replacing the regular Little House, Cosby Show 2x, and Roseanne 2x). Episodes 73-77 and 79 will air.

More proof:

Married...with Children will air this Thursday (June 25) leading into She's Got the Look from 5:52PM-9:00PM ET/PT (replacing the regular Little House, Cosby Show 2x, and Roseanne 2x). Episodes 73-77 and 79 will air.
Very interesting. I really think they may work out a deal where TV Land could air it full time in July(Spike will only air it from 9-11am, TV Land could air it in primetime or anytime before 2am).

I am really surprised Roseanne is not working but apparently MWC is. It makes no sense.

Off the clock start times for this week is attached.

Very interesting. I really think they may work out a deal where TV Land could air it full time in July(Spike will only air it from 9-11am, TV Land could air it in primetime or anytime before 2am).

I am really surprised Roseanne is not working but apparently MWC is. It makes no sense.

I agree - it makes no sense at all. Both shows have really been rerun to death since going off the air. Perhaps Married with Children just appeals to the TV Land audience more? I've been watching both shows, especially Roseanne. I'm just enjoying now before TV Land suddenly cuts down its airings.

Exactly why can't they air MWC especially since it does well? They aired Scrubs while Comedy Central was airing it and there was no problem. Is there something on the MWC contract that says only one channel can air it at a time? If that was the case, I think it would be better used at TV Land, but whatever. I give up as to why Home Improvement isn't there. :rolleyes:

Ratings next week will be interesting because Roseanne gets the Monday 8p-11p marathon as well as Tuesday so it will be almost all-night. Plus the July 4th marathon from 8pm-8am. It must be doing well in the demo they're wanting, because I see no other reason for it to be airing so much.
If I were to guess, during the day right now (9am-8pm) Bonanza and Gunsmoke probably do best, Beverly Hillbillies and Cosby Show probably do OK, and the 70s shows in the morning are probably the lowest rated (AitF probably does worst, Sanford and Son best). Those are just my guesses.

Exactly why can't they air MWC especially since it does well? They aired Scrubs while Comedy Central was airing it and there was no problem. Is there something on the MWC contract that says only one channel can air it at a time? If that was the case, I think it would be better used at TV Land, but whatever. I give up as to why Home Improvement isn't there. :rolleyes:


I've given up on trying to make any sense of TV Land. I really don't get why MWC has to leave TV Land just because it's coming back to Spike. They are owned by the same people, surely they can work something out.

The difference was Scrubs was always slated to come to TV Land and premiere on Comedy Central. Married...with Children was only designed for Spike TV and TV Land "borrowed" it for a special TV Land Awards stunt and it did VERY well. So they are borrowing it until it gets worked out (it so happens Spike TV keeps airing CSI/CSI NY all day, so it works out for TV Land) and they can air it regularly. I think it will happen soon. As for Home Improvement, it makes no sense to launch it now without promotion. I think if it does come, it'll be in the fall at the earliest. They already added Roseanne (it premiered before its launch even) and sort of Married with Children both out of the blue.

The difference was Scrubs was always slated to come to TV Land and premiere on Comedy Central. Married...with Children was only designed for Spike TV and TV Land "borrowed" it for a special TV Land Awards stunt and it did VERY well. So they are borrowing it until it gets worked out (it so happens Spike TV keeps airing CSI/CSI NY all day, so it works out for TV Land) and they can air it regularly. I think it will happen soon. As for Home Improvement, it makes no sense to launch it now without promotion. I think if it does come, it'll be in the fall at the earliest. They already added Roseanne (it premiered before its launch even) and sort of Married with Children both out of the blue.
OK, thanks. Do you think CSI will eventually come to TV Land? I remember you said it did or may do decent when it aired in December.

Yeah about new shows but I can't see how 7pm-4am can continue to be based on two shows (Roseanne and Cosby, and 3 whenever MWC joins).

It just seems like primetime on TV Land would be a higher priority to MTV Networks than mornings on Spike. Just cut an hour of it out on Spike and air it for an hour daily on TV Land.

I really hate the weekday schedule starting next week with Beaver and MWC gone, Andy still off and EM:HO back. No good outside of the 70's block in the mornings. Sanford & Son has always seemed like the most popular of the Lear shows on TV Land, but it seems like if it was doing the best currently it would have double episodes instead of double episodes of both The Jeffersons and Good Times.

Seems to me like Married with Children is the glue that's holding their primetime together, since its doing well. It's too bad TV Land can't air it regularly starting next week. Spike barely airs it - I can defnitely see some sort of a deal struck soon.

It just seems like primetime on TV Land would be a higher priority to MTV Networks than mornings on Spike. Just cut an hour of it out on Spike and air it for an hour daily on TV Land.

I really hate the weekday schedule starting next week with Beaver and MWC gone, Andy still off and EM:HO back. No good outside of the 70's block in the mornings. Sanford & Son has always seemed like the most popular of the Lear shows on TV Land, but it seems like if it was doing the best currently it would have double episodes instead of double episodes of both The Jeffersons and Good Times.Yeah, that's exactly what I think - Spike TV has some hits, but TV Land has none really (that are in their target demo). I may watch Sanford and Son since I've been getting back in to it lately but that's all. I was enjoying Beaver at 12. I still don't think The Jeffersons will be renewed, they could easily do AITF 9-10, S&S 10-11, and Good Times 11-12.

Yeah Julie, I think it will be interesting to see what they look like next week with just Roseanne, Cosby, and SGTL in primetime. There is no PR from SGTL so obviously it's not doing great.

Married With Children will air in a marathon Monday, June 29th from 8-11pm apparently. The grid had been saying Roseanne but now it lists MWC next week....am I correct?

7/05 will be Roseanne (as previously scheduled) from 8pm-11pm, then of course all night.

Married With Children will air in a marathon Monday, June 29th from 8-11pm apparently. The grid had been saying Roseanne but now it lists MWC next week....am I correct?

7/05 will be Roseanne (as previously scheduled) from 8pm-11pm, then of course all night.

Interesting - I guess they were able to air Married with Children for another week, until the end of June. I take it they'll be taking it off the weekday schedule starting in July then.

MWC doesn't come back to Spike until July 5th so I guess they could air it whenever they want up til then.

Yes, they added a Married with Children block on Monday, June 29 from 8-11PM. And I bet that isn't the last time you'll see this on this network.

Also, SpongeBob on Saturday, July 11 is now 7-9am instead of 10am-12pm. See July thread.

Yes, they added a Married with Children block on Monday, June 29 from 8-11PM. And I bet that isn't the last time you'll see this on this network.

I definitely agree with that. I actually kind of expect another marathon either next Thursday before SGTL or on July 4th leading into Roseanne.

July 4th leading in to Roseanne is Andy Griffith....I doubt they'll mess with that.

TV Land is airing Chasing Farrah on Saturday from 9-10PM. More details on that and more marathons/specials for Farrah:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=248831

We will have more on the blog tomorrow.

What's airing from 8-9 and at 10? Grease had been slated with MWC on til 8 and Roseanne from 10:30-12:30

TV Land is airing Chasing Farrah on Saturday from 9-10PM. More details on that and more marathons/specials for Farrah:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=248831

We will have more on the blog tomorrow.

TV Land is airing Chasing Farrah on Saturday from 9-10PM. More details on that and more marathons/specials for Farrah:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=248831

We will have more on the blog tomorrow.

You'd think they'd air the entire series instead of just an hour. I'm still glad to see TV Land do something to commemorate her.

What's airing from 8-9 and at 10? Grease had been slated with MWC on til 8 and Roseanne from 10:30-12:30The grid still hasn't been updated. Maybe extend MWC until 9 then Roseanne 10-12:30?

The grid still hasn't been updated. Maybe extend MWC until 9 then Roseanne 10-12:30?

That would make the most sense.

Because of Chasing Farrah, it will look like this on Saturday:

9:30am-6:30pm Married... with Children
6:30pm-9:00pm Grease
9:00pm-10:00pm Chasing Farrah Episodes 1 and 2
10:00pm-12:30am Roseanne

Episodes for Married...with Children for Monday from 8-11pm are episodes 71, 80-84.

Who's going to watch a movie at 6:30PM? lol. Only at TV Land...

Who's going to watch a movie at 6:30PM? lol. Only at TV Land... :brent

TV Land's stupidity never ceases to amaze me... :lol:

:brent

TV Land's stupidity never ceases to amaze me... :lol:

It's run by a clone of Michael Harris on "Newhart".

I would have done MWC until 9, Farrah 9-10, then the movie 10-12:30. Much better than 6:30 :rolleyes:

I don't see why 5:30 is such a bad time...it's not as if movies don't come on 24 hours a day on other channels.

TV Land Adds Charlie's Angels this Saturday now from 7-9PM and Michael Jackson Jackson Five 1992 mini-series from 2pm-7pm (and again 7pm-12am) on Sunday. See first post to see how this will affect the surrounding weekend programs.

TV LAND HONORS THE MEMORY OF TWO POP CULTURE ICONS

MICHAEL JACKSON AND FARRAH FAWCETT WITH PROGRAMMING

DEDICATED TO CELEBRATING THE LIFE WORKS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF TRUE AMERICAN IDOLS

New York, NY – June 26, 2009 – The world lost two beloved American icons yesterday with the shocking news of Michael Jackson's death and the notification of the passing of Farrah Fawcett. TV Land will honor their lives and careers with tributes this Saturday and Sunday, allowing the network's viewers -- who grew up with both of these legends -- to remember these influential forces.

In memory of Michael Jackson, TV Land will air the 1992 five hour mini-series, “The Jacksons: An American Dream” on Sunday, June 28, 2009 from 2pm – 7pm ET/PT with an immediate encore presentation from 7pm – 12am ET/PT. Airing this popular biographical series, which documents the progression of Michael Jackson’s career from childhood to incomparable stardom, will allow fans to remember the King of Pop and his imprint on the world music scene.

TV Land will also honor the memory of Hollywood actress and pop culture icon Farrah Fawcett with a tribute presentation of two “Charlie’s Angels” episodes on Saturday, June 27 from 7pm -9pm ET/PT leading up to the airing of the first two episodes of the 2005 TV Land original series, “Chasing Farrah” from 9-10pm. “Chasing Farrah” chronicled the icon's daily life as one of the most recognized stars in the history of celebrity.

“Airing these tributes allows our viewers to remember and understand the legacies that will continue into the future” states Larry W. Jones, president, TV Land. “We invite our audience to remember where they were the first time they heard The Jackson 5 singing “ABC,” saw the iconic “Thriller” music video or witnessed history when they heard the angels call 'Charlie' for the first time. They will both be missed terribly by all.”


“The Jacksons: An American Dream” Description
Sunday, June 28, 2009 -- 2PM-7PM (encore 7PM-12AM)
A TV mini-series based on the Jackson's true story that takes us through five decades of the Jackson Family's career-- from their early beginnings in the mid-western steel town of Gary, Indiana to their quick rise to stardom. Cast includes: Lawrence Hamilton Jacobs, Angela Bassett, Jason Weaver, Jermaine Jackson II, Holly Robinson and special appearances by Billy Dee Williams and Vanessa Williams. Featured music sung by The Jackson 5, Boyz II Men, Jermaine Jackson & Syreeta Wright and Jason Weaver and includes the hits, "Never Can Say Goodbye," "The Love You Save," "ABC," "Beat It," "Billy Jean," and "I'll Be There."

“Charlie’s Angels” Episode Descriptions:
Saturday, June 27, 2009
7:00PM #001 - Hell Ride - Sabrina pretends to be a race car driver as the girls go undercover to investigate a conspiracy surrounding the death of a female racer.
8:00PM #004 - Angels In Chains - The Angels go behind bars to uncover a murder-extortion scheme at a prison-farm in a corrupt small town where rich women are enslaved for their fortunes and then killed.

“Chasing Farrah” Episode Descriptions:
Saturday, June 27, 2009
9:00PM #001 – Lights, Camera, Farrah – In spite of her dislike of reality shows, actress Farrah Fawcett agrees to star in one.
9:30PM #002 – My Dinner with Farrah – Farrah and Ryan O’Neal have dinner at his beach house

How cool of TV Land is this? Getting Charlie's Angels was a great idea instead of the movie, and airing the Michael Jackson retrospective on Sunday was also a very nice thing to do. Finally, I can respect one of their scheduling decisions :D

I just wished they didn't go against WGN's Charlie's Angels marathon.

I just wished they didn't go against WGN's Charlie's Angels marathon.

Only the 8pm episode will go against it, though. Still a nice thing to do.

Wow, this was very good on their part. I actually like something they're doing! :lol:

Weekends will be like this:

Saturday

6:00AM Grease 2
8:30AM She's Got the Look
9:30AM-4:30PM Married...With Children
4:30PM-7:00PM Grease
7:00PM-9:00PM Charlie's Angels
9:00PM-10:00PM Chasing Farrah
10:00PM-4:00AM Roseanne (SGTL at 11:30pm)
4:00AM-6:00AM Three's Company

Sunday (still not updated as of yet)

7:00AM She's Got the Look
8:00PM-2:00PM Married...With Children
2:00PM-12:00AM Michael Jackson Tribute
12:00AM-6:00AM TBD (I guess)

Only the 8pm episode will go against it, though. Still a nice thing to do.

I know that. TV Land shouldn't have done that. WGN America scheduled it first. What would have been better was if they aired it 6-8pm or 10pm-12am (don't need Roseanne airing there).

clj2, the schedule for this weekend is posted on the first post of this thread.

Well... I applaud TV Land for remembering Michael Jackson(and it's a smart move), but I'm unhappy about the MWC marathons being severely cut. So mixed feelings.

Well... I applaud TV Land for remembering Michael Jackson(and it's a smart move), but I'm unhappy about the MWC marathons being severely cut. So mixed feelings.Well, I thought the same thing that it was a bummer for MWC, but I am very impressed that they are honoring two such large icons, I feel that should take top priority over MWC. I'm sure there will be more MWC marathons in the future on TV Land, but this is a one-time event.

I'm also very pleased with TV Land's programming decisions for this weekend. It is important to commemorate such icons and they are providing viewers with programs that show what made Farrah Fawcett and Michael Jackson such huge celebrities. Good job TV Land!

Charlie's Angels will also encore in the morning Sunday from 5-7am.