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Brian Damage · 02-16-2004, 12:08 PM

Shelly had no longing for Frasier
HOLLYWOOD - Kelsey Grammer might never have become a TV star if Cheers producers had listened to Shelley Long.

Grammer says Long was opposed to his Frasier character joining the Cheers cast.

"Shelley didn't want Frasier in the show," he says. "She took every opportunity to make that clear. She wasn't evil, she was only capable of seeing things from one perspective - her own."

Long played Diane on the series.

DianeChambers87 · 02-16-2004, 12:22 PM

True....but um....? I'm confused

Brian Damage · 02-16-2004, 12:37 PM

why confused?

DianeChambers87 · 02-16-2004, 01:27 PM

well did somebody ask you or are you just randomely posting that?

Brian Damage · 02-16-2004, 01:33 PM

I dunno, I was searching for Cheers and Frasier info and I stumbled upon that little nugget. I thought I'd share.

DianeChambers87 · 02-16-2004, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Brian Damage
I dunno, I was searching for Cheers and Frasier info and I stumbled upon that little nugget. I thought I'd share.

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well to add to to what you said, her main argument was "Why have two intellectuals in the bar?" I think that combined with Nick's death is what made Shelley leave. Well not the fact that Kelsey stayed, just the fact that she lost the campaign to get rid of him.

also I believe your excerpt is from an ET interview? I think I may have it on tape.

barwars · 02-16-2004, 03:53 PM

THANK GOD she lost that fight.

DianeChambers87 · 02-16-2004, 03:59 PM

well I kind of agree with her, if they weren't dating, I didn't like Frasier in the bar, that is until she left. I agree with her when she said that "One intellectual in the bar was enough"

barwars · 02-16-2004, 04:03 PM

I thought Frasier was one of the best characters!

And IMO.... the series was finally "perfect" when he came.
Rebound Parts 1&2 are some of my favorite episodes.

I agree that he was better after they broke up.... the resentment and hatred for Diane made him even funnier.

DianeChambers87 · 02-16-2004, 04:05 PM

I liked him in the bar from the sixth season on, because he kind of filled Diane shoes when making long-winded speeches...and well the only person with a shred of morality left in the bar.

Mcfly · 02-16-2004, 07:32 PM

I remember reading the intellectual thing, but it also came down to the same situation in the Rhea/Jay Thomas thing: one was being outshined by the other. Perlman asked that Eddie be dropped cuz he was emerging as a favorite over Carla, the same going for Long and Grammer. Grammer was just hilarious with his uptight, brainy stuff and Long felt threatened.

Junaid Aslam · 02-25-2004, 06:11 AM

Please no-one hate on Shelly as Cheers had a rocky first season ratings and wouldn't have survived without Shelley (Ted Danson's words)

They were both good characters i prefer Diane but it was right that she left has her stories had been told.

02-16-2004, 12:08 PM	#1
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Shelley was opposed to Frasier character Shelly had no longing for Frasier HOLLYWOOD - Kelsey Grammer might never have become a TV star if Cheers producers had listened to Shelley Long. Grammer says Long was opposed to his Frasier character joining the Cheers cast. "Shelley didn't want Frasier in the show," he says. "She took every opportunity to make that clear. She wasn't evil, she was only capable of seeing things from one perspective - her own." Long played Diane on the series.

02-16-2004, 12:22 PM	#2
DianeChambers87 Elizabeth B. Malone Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 16, 2003 Location: Swampland USA Posts: 5,178	True....but um....? I'm confused
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02-25-2004, 06:11 AM	#12
Junaid Aslam Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: UK Posts: 14	Please no-one hate on Shelly as Cheers had a rocky first season ratings and wouldn't have survived without Shelley (Ted Danson's words) They were both good characters i prefer Diane but it was right that she left has her stories had been told.
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02-16-2004, 12:37 PM	#3
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	why confused?

02-16-2004, 01:27 PM	#4
DianeChambers87 Elizabeth B. Malone Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 16, 2003 Location: Swampland USA Posts: 5,178	well did somebody ask you or are you just randomely posting that?

02-16-2004, 01:33 PM	#5
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	I dunno, I was searching for Cheers and Frasier info and I stumbled upon that little nugget. I thought I'd share.

02-16-2004, 03:53 PM	#7
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	THANK GOD she lost that fight.

02-16-2004, 03:59 PM	#8
DianeChambers87 Elizabeth B. Malone Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 16, 2003 Location: Swampland USA Posts: 5,178	well I kind of agree with her, if they weren't dating, I didn't like Frasier in the bar, that is until she left. I agree with her when she said that "One intellectual in the bar was enough"

02-16-2004, 04:03 PM	#9
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	I thought Frasier was one of the best characters! And IMO.... the series was finally "perfect" when he came. Rebound Parts 1&2 are some of my favorite episodes. I agree that he was better after they broke up.... the resentment and hatred for Diane made him even funnier.

02-16-2004, 04:05 PM	#10
DianeChambers87 Elizabeth B. Malone Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 16, 2003 Location: Swampland USA Posts: 5,178	I liked him in the bar from the sixth season on, because he kind of filled Diane shoes when making long-winded speeches...and well the only person with a shred of morality left in the bar.

02-16-2004, 07:32 PM	#11
Mcfly Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 06, 2001 Location: ca Posts: 374	I remember reading the intellectual thing, but it also came down to the same situation in the Rhea/Jay Thomas thing: one was being outshined by the other. Perlman asked that Eddie be dropped cuz he was emerging as a favorite over Carla, the same going for Long and Grammer. Grammer was just hilarious with his uptight, brainy stuff and Long felt threatened.

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