couple jump off bridge

[CrushedVelvet]

Okay, anyone remember the case of the couple who were out on the town with another couple and got in a scuff with a couple of guys and couple #1 man shoots and kills one of the guys. He goes to trial and claims innocence (i think) and you can see on the real court footage he is whispering with his wife and they had a deaf girl translate (read mouths) and they were saying since he was found guilty they now have to go thru with their plan...subsequently they supposedly committed suicide off a bridge but the wife's body was found but not the husbands so it may have beomce a murder. AGH! Help???

[CrushedVelvet]

I dont know if that is just too confusing to read but just to help I recall the couple had been seen purchasing ankle weights and mens socks and sweats at a local sporting goods store.

[trailblazer]

This is from a prior posting that is related to this topic.
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My theory on Adam Emery case, what do you think?
I think after he got convicted for the murder of that innocent motorist whom he mistook for the driver of the car that slammed into his car, he & his wife went ahead with their plans. He faced 20 years to life for the murder and his sentencing hearing was a few weeks later.


There was a deaf woman who was an expert lip reader. The investigator used her to interpret what Adam & his wife were saying in the courtroom footage. It basically was them agreeing to go ahead with their plans.



I think his wife bought the weights just as a deliberate ruse so that when the investigators check her credit card purchases and so on they have clues that they had planned suicide. They intentionally left clues like that to build up the ruse. The weights were to be used in aiding their supposed suicide and weigh them down so that they will drown after jumping into the river.

I strongly think this because the shop keeper who sold her the weights reported she was very calm and did not appear nervous at all. This is not the type of demeanour of someone who is about to do something drastic like kill oneself that night by jumping off a bridge.


He also reported that she was very annoyed that the weights were so expensive. If you're going to kill yourself that night, I don't think you're gonna care whether or not the weights cost an extra $50 bucks more than you thought it did.


You're not going to be able to use your leftover money in your grave when you're dead so why would you care?


What I think was, she & and her husband wanted to fake a suicide by jumping of the bridge together and than disappear. Her husband was already convicted and awaiting a sentencing hearing which would likely end up with him being in prison for 20 years to life. But after the police searched the river and found absolutely nothing than they figured they must have staged their own fake suicides.


So I figured by this stage to get the authorities to believe that they are dead, Adam killed his wife and dumped her remains in the same river where he knew they will be found. This way her remains can be positively identified via DNA and dental records as his wife and that would lead the authorities to believe that he must also have commited suicide, or so he hoped.

They never wanted to commit suicide especially his wife.

But Adam decided since the authorities believe they faked it, perhaps he should murder his wife and dump her body in the river so that the authorities think they did do the suicide pact after all but are just still waiting to find his remains.






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Together, on the day the car was found. And Adam Emery's remains WERE found, a male leg bone that a medical examiner thought was too short to belong to a man of Emery's height. Let's see, what's more likely: 1) the medical examiner was mistaken, or 2) someone else's abandoned leg bone was lounging around in the same specific area? Gee, tough call.



My Answer>>> The correct answer I think is #2. I think the leg bones belonged to a yet unidentified male stranger. I don't think they are Adam's Emery.




Wild conspiratorial speculation can never be overcome with inconvenient facts. I experience that every day in Las Vegas sportsbooks, with losing bettors dismissing their failure with accusations that the game was fixed. That missed free throw followed by a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer was obviously scripted days earlier. Sure.

My answer>> This is not sports betting or gambling. There's really no comparison there between that and faking suicides to avoid prison.


The Emery's car was found at the bridge, complete with IDs.

My answer>> And what does this mean? To you it might mean that they jumped off the bridge.

My Answer>> To me being cautious and not jumping to conclusions, I believe it is probably not. First they had deliberately & GLARINGLY left their IDs in their abandoned car. This tells me that they're trying to tell whoever finds their abandoned car, that this car belonged to Mr & Mrs Emery. It's part of their ruse to mislead the authorities that they had commited suicide by jumping off the bridge. You got conned by their ruse. If you are going to kill yourself, I don't think you could give a rat's ass if people believe you are dead or not (YOU'RE DEAD, WHY DOES IT MATTER?) so why go through all that trouble of leaving your IDs glaringly in the car to be discovered.



My Answer>> His wife bought the abdominal weights as a ruse to leave traces like the shop receipt & traces on her credit card at the sports store. His wife and him than deliberately made themselves be seen during the afternoon at the bridge so witnesses can say yeah that they were there alright "I saw them etc" . That's also part of their ruse. Later on that evening when the bridge was almost deserted Adam probably drove the car that was to be abandoned (with their IDs conveniently left in the car for anybody who finds it to know that this car belonged to the Emery's) to that part of the bridge. His wife probably drove behind in another 2nd car and picked him up and they both drove off leaving their abandoned car there with the IDs to give the impression that they both jumped to their deaths.



They were seen at the nearby Burger King and sporting goods store.

My Answer>> I told you the purchase of the abdominal weights was just a ruse to make it seem like they were buying stuff to aid in their suicide (abominal weights to help them drown). The storekeeper reported Mrs Emery was very chatty, smiling and calm when she made this purchase? I suppose when you're about to kill yourself you are happy & cheerful? She didn't have to kill herself, her husband was going to prison, not her. She wanted to pretend she's doing a suicide pact with her husband so that she can disappear too. If her husband disappears & she still around, she is going to be INTERROGATED & GRILLED about her husband's disappearance.



The lip reader caught her insisting on going thru with a plan.

My Answer>> Yes that was correct. The plan was to fake the suicide pact to mislead authorities and flee & disappear so that Adam Emery can escape HIS IMPENDING PRISON SENTENCE OF 20 YRS TO LIFE. In a few weeks he was to go to be sentenced. He's already been convicted. He's GOING TO PRISON MAN FOR 20 YRS TO LIFE FOR MURDER.


Her skull was located below the bridge.

My Answer>> After her husband killed her, he chose wisely to dump her body off the bridge at that location knowing it was gonna be found. Her husband figured that if he killed his wife and dumped her remains there, that would make people think they really did commit suicide and the authorities can close the case. He figured than the authorities would get off his back. Obviously his plan worked, some people including you believed it.



Only humans commit suicide, no other species.

>>> I know that. But when somebody has been swindling people of money and than the cover is blown and the cops are about to charge him/her it is in their interest to fake a suicide so that the cops can close the case thinking the suspect is dead. Faking suicide will get the authorities off your back, case closed, suspect is dead. Think about it. The suspect can go on living a new life under a new identity.



It's not exactly a rational game plan, so how can anyone assert that the Emery's actions regarding the price of the weights, etc. was not LOGICAL?

My Answer>> If you're gonna kill yourself, I don't think you will even fuss about the little extra price of the adbominal weights you're buying man. Think about it. The shop owner noted to the police that Mrs Emery was quite pissed that it was pricier than she thought it would be. That tells me she did not plan on killing herself as she still valued saving money. Would you care about saving "a little" money if you're going to shoot yourself dead tonight?



And there was never any PROOF that the leg bone was not Adam Emery's. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned that one supposed expert thought it was too short, based on height estimates. There was no mention of prior x-rays that asserted Adam Emery's leg bone was longer than the one found. There was no followup testimony from other specialists that leg bones of that type are in direct proportion to the height of the individual, and could not vary.



My answer>>> The leg bone according to the forensic sciences examnations were determined to be a male no taller than 5'7". Adam Emery was over 6'1". They were not his. You can not have a person 6'1" with a leg bone that only males 5'7" generally have. And they were never genetically proven to be his. If you have conclusive proof that he is dead, like his remains with genetic testing or dental record matches, than I will say he is dead. Till now everything points to me that he is alive and faked his suicide and killed his wife to help with the ruse. Well seeing that you believe he is dead, his ruse has worked & conned some people. The leg bones could have belonged to a transient that jumped off the bridge because he was depressed. There are people who commit suicide by jumping off the bridges. Probably belonged to a stranger.



I'm certain the leg bone was indeed Adam Emery's. You conveniently overlooked my mention of the lounging leg bone, if it was not Adam Emery's. Any robust conspiratorial theory must account for that loose leg bone, and who it belongs to.


My Answer>>> I think those Forensic Scientists with college degrees and years of experience in this type of work can tell you that the leg bones are not his. I take their word for it, I being a laymen, they being professional with forensics who know what they are talking about.



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ALSO, ONE MORE FACT.
Right after their abandoned car was found, that river was THOROUGHLY SEARCHED THROUGH AND THROUGH, and nothing was found! except a male leg bone that was determined to be a male unidentified stranger 5'7" and under. Adam Emery was well over 6'1".
If she had commited suicide wouldn't they have found her remains right away????????? Doesn't make sense.



So after a time being, with all the leads strongly pointing to a FAKE suicide pact (Part of the Emery's ruse to mislead authorities so that Adam could escaping serving 20 years to life in prison), Adam killed his wife. He than dumped her remains into that river where he knew it would be found. Her remains by genetic testing and dental record matching has PROVEN POSITIVELY to be Mrs Emery.

I say he's alive.

[CrushedVelvet]

Wow, Trailblazer, thanks!!! I enjoyed the controversial aspects. It sure wouldn't hurt to show his photo on America's Most Wanted to see if they got any leads...but they probably never would because then they would have to admit there was doubt which woud lead to pressure to solve, etc. I am curious as to how the couple's parents/families feel, if they believe he is alive...God only knows WHO'S leg bone that was, he murdered before so why not assume he murdered AGAIN to help his staged suicide. I doubt he thought enough to kill a man of his own height. The whole thing is creepy.