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tvje · 02-06-2004, 12:21 AM

I am angry at our society. Janet Jackson made a mistake, she appologied. What more do you want from her? This society is suppose to be a forgiven society. The parents need to look themselfs in the mirror. It is not Janet Jackson job to parent your kids. And to all of the Joe Starsburgh of the world, you can go to hell. She didn't hurt anybody, unlike your hero George W. Bush, who sent americans under false pretensous to die in Iraq.

CBS, NFL, and Justin Timberlake need to take responsibilty as well. Especially Timberlake.

The people that refuse to take blame, and the hyppocrits need to reevaluate themselfs.

This is overblown, and we need to move on.

Steve M. · 02-06-2004, 12:32 AM

Did Janet Jackson do something? Justin Timberlake - he's Missouri's senior senator, isn't he? Oh well, I haven't been paying attention to what's been going on. Besides, I thought this was a thread about Janet Reno. . .Oh wait, this is a music thread!

By the way, Gray Davis is still governor of California, isn't he?

Yes, I'm being facetious!

Ewan's My Man · 02-06-2004, 01:19 AM

Janet Jackson may have apologized...but does she really mean it? The day Janet Jackson captures a world terrorist then by golly who cares what she does...oh...and the capture of Michael Jackson, does NOT count.

While George Bush captured Sadaam...

I really don't think you can make a caparison between the two...

tvje · 02-06-2004, 01:29 AM

Who cares if she meant it? That is more than Timberlake and everyone else involved has done.

By the way Bush did not capture Saddem, our brave men and women of the U.S. Military captured Saddem. So don't give me that bull.

Dean Winchester · 02-06-2004, 01:46 AM

if the media would not "forgive" Madonna (whose album got ZERO radio airplay due to a blacklisting over the American Life video, even tho she pulled the video, radio didn't consider that good enough) and The Dixie Chicks (Natalie Maines even apologized for everything, but still, white trash all over the nation made sure that radio would not play Dixie Chicks and their album dropped off the chart), I don't see why they should forgive Janet.

vashti1999 · 02-06-2004, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
if the media would not "forgive" Madonna (whose album got ZERO radio airplay due to a blacklisting over the American Life video, even tho she pulled the video, radio didn't consider that good enough) and The Dixie Chicks (Natalie Maines even apologized for everything, but still, white trash all over the nation made sure that radio would not play Dixie Chicks and their album dropped off the chart), I don't see why they should forgive Janet.

Maybe because the Madonna and Dixie Chicks situations were seen by patriotic Americans as possibly anti-American sentiments during a sensitive time. All Janet did was have her breast bared during half-time of a Super Bowl. There's nothing there to "forgive". Anyone looking to an NFL game for morality is looking in the wrong place.

tvje · 02-06-2004, 12:43 PM

I agree with Vashti1999, the NFL is not the place for morality. Look at the commercials, that is family viewer. Please.

I disagree with you about Madonna. The media moved on from the controversy "American Life" video. It got no radio airplay, because the song and whole album was awful. And I have been a fan of Madonna fan since "Like a Virgin", and most Madonna fans I speak to, admit that album was her worst album ever.

Janet Jackson carrer inges on the quality of her new album. If it is good, people will buy it. That is the way our society is in entertainment. We forgive if your work is good. That is not only the music industry, but also in the movies, TV, and Sports.

Right now Janet's new single is the most requested song on New York radio stations.

felicitylen · 02-06-2004, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by tvje
I am angry at our society. Janet Jackson made a mistake, she appologied. What more do you want from her? This society is suppose to be a forgiven society. The parents need to look themselfs in the mirror. It is not Janet Jackson job to parent your kids. And to all of the Joe Starsburgh of the world, you can go to hell. She didn't hurt anybody, unlike your hero George W. Bush, who sent americans under false pretensous to die in Iraq.

CBS, NFL, and Justin Timberlake need to take responsibilty as well. Especially Timberlake.

The people that refuse to take blame, and the hyppocrits need to reevaluate themselfs.

This is overblown, and we need to move on.

I agree! It's been done, the necessary people have apologized and now it's time to move on.

Dean Winchester · 02-06-2004, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by felicitylen
I agree! It's been done, the necessary people have apologized and now it's time to move on.

our media doesn't forgive celebrities, they only forgive you if you were caught with a hooker (Hugh Grant)

Madonna's last album was boycotted on radio because of a video in which she had sense to pull before it even aired, but all the "I was born to boycott" people made sure the album suffered as a result.

If the media couldn't forgive "anti-war" celebrities such as Madonna, Dixie Chicks and Susan Sarandon, why should they forgive Janet, when I think showing your tit on national television is more offensive than merely speaking your mind about something, even if someone might take offense. Janet knew she was taking a risk by showing her breast on national tv, people like Dixie Chicks and Madonna didn't realize people would turn on them for using godgiven freedom of speech.

Rhiannon · 02-06-2004, 05:34 PM

I'm just tired of hearing about it when there's a lot more important stuff they could be talking about on major news channels.

Dean Winchester · 02-06-2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by vashti1999
Maybe because the Madonna and Dixie Chicks situations were seen by patriotic Americans as possibly anti-American sentiments during a sensitive time. All Janet did was have her breast bared during half-time of a Super Bowl. There's nothing there to "forgive". Anyone looking to an NFL game for morality is looking in the wrong place.

that is true, but it seemed like what Janet did was more "knowing" she'd get in trouble. Madonna and Natalie Maines on the other hand probably didn't realize at the time when they did what they did that conservative activists across the nation were going to condemn them. Janet knew by doing this, it would get attention, tho I don't think she expected it to be as negative as it became.

I do think that people make too big a deal tho. A tit is a tit. It's sad that media has already forgiven Justin over it, while Janet is being treated like a jezebel in the media. My opinion of Janet has not changed since this incident, I've always liked her music and thought she has a lot of positive messages in her song, but the way Justin has baby-cried "this was such a great year for me, why is this happening??" cost me whatever respect I once had for him.

SBTB Geek · 02-06-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
if the media would not "forgive" Madonna (whose album got ZERO radio airplay due to a blacklisting over the American Life video, even tho she pulled the video, radio didn't consider that good enough) and The Dixie Chicks (Natalie Maines even apologized for everything, but still, white trash all over the nation made sure that radio would not play Dixie Chicks and their album dropped off the chart), I don't see why they should forgive Janet.

American Life got zero airplay because most of it sucked, do not blame it on blacklisting, in actuality most people took her side. The boycotting of the Dixie Chicks was only successful for about a week, the album later on did a rebound and continued to sell. Home was actually one of 2002's best selling albums.

Dean Winchester · 02-06-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by SBTB Geek
American Life got zero airplay because most of it sucked, do not blame it on blacklisting, in actuality most people took her side. The boycotting of the Dixie Chicks was only successful for about a week, the album later on did a rebound and continued to sell. Home was actually one of 2002's best selling albums.

but not the way it was doing before the backlash, pre-backlash the album LIVED in the top 5, after the backlash, it just stayed in the 20's and 30's. Home fell off the Billboard top 200 after only 57 weeks, both Fly and Wide Open Spaces spent 2+ years on the chart. Also their popularity on the catalogue chart has dropped considerable. Fly and WOS were always in the top 3 of the "Country Catalog" sellers, and usually in the top 20 Pop Catalog as well before the Bush comment. Whereas on last week's Billboard, Fly was #17 and WOS was #20 on the Country Catalog chart, neither scanning enough to make the Pop Catalog chart. It really did hurt their sales a lot and it seems like they lost a lot of clout over it.

American Life wasn't one of Madonna's best albums, but Like A Virgin was her worst album ever and look at all the hits that album had. I do think Nothing Fails and Love Profusion both could've become hits if Clear Channel (which is 80%+ of the radio stations out there) DIDN'T boycott the album.

°Bubbly Blonde° · 02-06-2004, 07:46 PM

how stupid to apologize...

tvje · 02-06-2004, 07:52 PM

Reguardless "American Life" the album and the single was awful.

People are claming that Janet is getting all of the heat while Justin is getting a free pass is about race. Wrong, it is about gender. Women are held to higher standard.

Men that act in sexual ways are viewed as studs, while women are viewed as sluts.

I hope Justin is booed at the Grammy's or any future public apperance for his behavior since the Supebowl.

02-06-2004, 12:21 AM	#1
tvje Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 26, 2002 Posts: 1,402	Janet apologized, move on I am angry at our society. Janet Jackson made a mistake, she appologied. What more do you want from her? This society is suppose to be a forgiven society. The parents need to look themselfs in the mirror. It is not Janet Jackson job to parent your kids. And to all of the Joe Starsburgh of the world, you can go to hell. She didn't hurt anybody, unlike your hero George W. Bush, who sent americans under false pretensous to die in Iraq. CBS, NFL, and Justin Timberlake need to take responsibilty as well. Especially Timberlake. The people that refuse to take blame, and the hyppocrits need to reevaluate themselfs. This is overblown, and we need to move on.
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02-06-2004, 01:19 AM	#3
Ewan's My Man I'll Cover You Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 29, 2001 Location: Beneath the opera house... Posts: 5,682	Janet Jackson may have apologized...but does she really mean it? The day Janet Jackson captures a world terrorist then by golly who cares what she does...oh...and the capture of Michael Jackson, does NOT count. While George Bush captured Sadaam... I really don't think you can make a caparison between the two...
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02-06-2004, 05:34 PM	#10
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02-06-2004, 07:46 PM	#14
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02-06-2004, 12:32 AM	#2
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	Did Janet Jackson do something? Justin Timberlake - he's Missouri's senior senator, isn't he? Oh well, I haven't been paying attention to what's been going on. Besides, I thought this was a thread about Janet Reno. . .Oh wait, this is a music thread! By the way, Gray Davis is still governor of California, isn't he? Yes, I'm being facetious!

02-06-2004, 01:29 AM	#4
tvje Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 26, 2002 Posts: 1,402	Who cares if she meant it? That is more than Timberlake and everyone else involved has done. By the way Bush did not capture Saddem, our brave men and women of the U.S. Military captured Saddem. So don't give me that bull.

02-06-2004, 01:46 AM	#5
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	if the media would not "forgive" Madonna (whose album got ZERO radio airplay due to a blacklisting over the American Life video, even tho she pulled the video, radio didn't consider that good enough) and The Dixie Chicks (Natalie Maines even apologized for everything, but still, white trash all over the nation made sure that radio would not play Dixie Chicks and their album dropped off the chart), I don't see why they should forgive Janet.

02-06-2004, 12:43 PM	#7
tvje Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 26, 2002 Posts: 1,402	I agree with Vashti1999, the NFL is not the place for morality. Look at the commercials, that is family viewer. Please. I disagree with you about Madonna. The media moved on from the controversy "American Life" video. It got no radio airplay, because the song and whole album was awful. And I have been a fan of Madonna fan since "Like a Virgin", and most Madonna fans I speak to, admit that album was her worst album ever. Janet Jackson carrer inges on the quality of her new album. If it is good, people will buy it. That is the way our society is in entertainment. We forgive if your work is good. That is not only the music industry, but also in the movies, TV, and Sports. Right now Janet's new single is the most requested song on New York radio stations.

02-06-2004, 07:52 PM	#15
tvje Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 26, 2002 Posts: 1,402	Reguardless "American Life" the album and the single was awful. People are claming that Janet is getting all of the heat while Justin is getting a free pass is about race. Wrong, it is about gender. Women are held to higher standard. Men that act in sexual ways are viewed as studs, while women are viewed as sluts. I hope Justin is booed at the Grammy's or any future public apperance for his behavior since the Supebowl.