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DianeChambers87 · 02-04-2004, 08:32 PM

...comparing Friends to Cheers, I love lucy, and the honeymooners. Saying it's the best sitcom ever!

all I have to say is "Go Kelsey!!!"big nono

Ria · 02-04-2004, 08:43 PM

Good for him! We won't know if "Friends" stands up to any of those series until it's over. Will it achieve "legend" status??

DianeChambers87 · 02-04-2004, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ria
Good for him! We won't know if "Friends" stands up to any of those series until it's over. Will it achieve "legend" status??

haha exactly, it would be hilarious if it's on Nick at Nite in five years (knowing them probably sooner) and it's a huge flop. Or maybe it will become a classic. Becker I think will be rediscovered by a later audience and reruns will make it more popular than when it was on.

david&maddie4ever · 02-04-2004, 11:58 PM

Friends...getting compared to Cheers. C'mon, people. Let's start using our brains.

Not even close.

NORM · 02-05-2004, 07:42 AM

Im gonna watch one episode of Friends coming up. Lol Im sorry but Danny DeVito is guest starring.

Brian Damage · 02-05-2004, 12:37 PM

Friends can be funny, but comparing it to a classic like Cheers is just plain silly.

DianeChambers87 · 02-05-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by NORM
Im gonna watch one episode of Friends coming up. Lol Im sorry but Danny DeVito is guest starring.

I'm watching that one too!! I LOVE Danny DeVito, he's one of my favorite director/actors. It's today right?

barwars · 02-05-2004, 08:08 PM

Its tonight.

Normally I would NEVER watch Friends.
But for Danny DeVito.... I planned on tuning in.

But its on the same time as Survivor.... and theres no way in hell im missing that.

NORM · 02-05-2004, 10:06 PM

haah yea sorr I'm not missing Survivor for no one. Why Rudy man why Rudy??

DianeChambers87 · 02-05-2004, 10:09 PM

It was so good! Danny was doing his little stripper dance...haha it was funny!

cutiepi22 · 02-05-2004, 10:46 PM

Yeah" It was so funny when he started to feel sick on phoebe's lap. But I must say that I like friends just as much as I like Cheers and it is just as good so people shouldn't criticize it.

Ria · 02-06-2004, 12:36 AM

Just to be clear: The reason I think that the comparison between "Friends" and "Cheers" is ludicrous is NOT because I don't think "Friends" is good. I like it, and even if I didn't, my roommate would kill me for bashing it. The reason the comparison is slightly insulting is that "Cheers" (and certainly "I Love Lucy," but I'm using the example of "Cheers" for obvious reasons) was/is innovative in a way that "Friends" is simply not. For example, the romantic comedy writing at the time was completely new for a sitcom. It was almost better suited to cinema, and any television analyst will say that it was unheard of at the time to draw a central relationship out that long, but it set the standard for shows to follow (think "Who's the Boss?" or even Ross and Rachel on "Friends"). Also, the work place/hang out combo hadn't been seen completely independent of home-life yet (except in "The Mary Tyler Moore Show"). Finally, the technical aspects stood out as well. If you really look at the first two seasons, the cinematography is incredible. These are things that modern shows just don't have. They recombine and rework pre-established patterns. "Friends" is so good because it does this successfully, but it doesn't "pave the way" for other shows or completely change the standard in the way that "Lucy" did for female comedians, "Seinfeld" did for subject matter, or "Cheers" did in changing standards for an ensemble show.

barwars · 02-06-2004, 05:00 PM

Very well put.

Ill admit.... Friends is good show.
I just happen not to like it.... and think that it gets WAY more attention than it deserves.

CheersChild4life · 02-06-2004, 10:58 PM

I think there are lots of sitcoms that came out with "Friends" that are about the same, but "Friends" blew up they got lucky. I'm not saying "Friends" is bad or anything I don't watch it so I wouldn't know. Comparing "Cheers" to "Friends" is just well I dunno, but I wouldnt'.

02-04-2004, 08:32 PM	#1
DianeChambers87 Elizabeth B. Malone Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 16, 2003 Location: Swampland USA Posts: 5,178	There they go again ...comparing Friends to Cheers, I love lucy, and the honeymooners. Saying it's the best sitcom ever! all I have to say is "Go Kelsey!!!"big nono
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02-04-2004, 11:58 PM	#4
david&maddie4ever ...the hard way... Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 01, 2003 Location: ...staring at my calendar, counting the days until the release of Moonlighting on DVD... Posts: 3,580	Friends...getting compared to Cheers. C'mon, people. Let's start using our brains. Not even close.
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02-05-2004, 07:42 AM	#5
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02-04-2004, 08:43 PM	#2
Ria Producerintraining Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 18, 2003 Location: Across the river from my fave bar! Posts: 466	Good for him! We won't know if "Friends" stands up to any of those series until it's over. Will it achieve "legend" status??

02-05-2004, 12:37 PM	#6
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Friends can be funny, but comparing it to a classic like Cheers is just plain silly.

02-05-2004, 08:08 PM	#8
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Its tonight. Normally I would NEVER watch Friends. But for Danny DeVito.... I planned on tuning in. But its on the same time as Survivor.... and theres no way in hell im missing that.

02-05-2004, 10:06 PM	#9
NORM #1 Wendt Fan Senior Member Join Date: Oct 19, 2002 Location: Wherever my wheels are rolling. Posts: 1,607	haah yea sorr I'm not missing Survivor for no one. Why Rudy man why Rudy??

02-05-2004, 10:09 PM	#10
DianeChambers87 Elizabeth B. Malone Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 16, 2003 Location: Swampland USA Posts: 5,178	It was so good! Danny was doing his little stripper dance...haha it was funny!

02-05-2004, 10:46 PM	#11
cutiepi22 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Posts: 160	Yeah" It was so funny when he started to feel sick on phoebe's lap. But I must say that I like friends just as much as I like Cheers and it is just as good so people shouldn't criticize it.

02-06-2004, 12:36 AM	#12
Ria Producerintraining Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 18, 2003 Location: Across the river from my fave bar! Posts: 466	Just to be clear: The reason I think that the comparison between "Friends" and "Cheers" is ludicrous is NOT because I don't think "Friends" is good. I like it, and even if I didn't, my roommate would kill me for bashing it. The reason the comparison is slightly insulting is that "Cheers" (and certainly "I Love Lucy," but I'm using the example of "Cheers" for obvious reasons) was/is innovative in a way that "Friends" is simply not. For example, the romantic comedy writing at the time was completely new for a sitcom. It was almost better suited to cinema, and any television analyst will say that it was unheard of at the time to draw a central relationship out that long, but it set the standard for shows to follow (think "Who's the Boss?" or even Ross and Rachel on "Friends"). Also, the work place/hang out combo hadn't been seen completely independent of home-life yet (except in "The Mary Tyler Moore Show"). Finally, the technical aspects stood out as well. If you really look at the first two seasons, the cinematography is incredible. These are things that modern shows just don't have. They recombine and rework pre-established patterns. "Friends" is so good because it does this successfully, but it doesn't "pave the way" for other shows or completely change the standard in the way that "Lucy" did for female comedians, "Seinfeld" did for subject matter, or "Cheers" did in changing standards for an ensemble show.

02-06-2004, 05:00 PM	#13
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Very well put. Ill admit.... Friends is good show. I just happen not to like it.... and think that it gets WAY more attention than it deserves.

02-06-2004, 10:58 PM	#14
CheersChild4life Absolutely Fabulous Senior Member Join Date: Nov 23, 2002 Location: Somwhere Fabulous Posts: 2,814	I think there are lots of sitcoms that came out with "Friends" that are about the same, but "Friends" blew up they got lucky. I'm not saying "Friends" is bad or anything I don't watch it so I wouldn't know. Comparing "Cheers" to "Friends" is just well I dunno, but I wouldnt'.