Theory On Mary Agnes Gross segment

[elvisfan]

Before I begin, here's a link to the case:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Invest...ge/10?source=1

(sorry the writing is tiny on the link but it gives you an idea as to what is going on...also, the fact that a photograph of a baby was sent to Ms. Thomas three months later is left out...as well as the fact that the baby in the picture looked just like Thomas's estranged husband)

Anyway, this case always bothered me because all I could surmise was this:"Somebody, somewhere, must know what happened. People talk.." And yet, no one has come forward.
Then it dawned on me.. Maybe Ms. Thomas's own family set this up. Think about it. It's the early 1960s. She had just separated from her husband. It was too late to "send her away to have the baby ", and the "single mom thing" just wasn't happening in that era. Let's just say that it went down like that..could that be the reason why no one is talking?
Thoughts? Opinions?

[kamy]

I just watched this one on Spike and it's always saddened me. I don't remember the "update" on the other baby's body being exhumed and DNA testing proving it wasn't Mary Agnes on the Lifetime segment so maybe this is new? I can't believe that nothing has come from this one...like you said Elvisfan, people talk and you think that somewould would have recognized the picture that the mother got in the mail?

Very sad case.

[rarjake]

Bump!!!

Wow, i can't believe i never sraw this story before. It really sickens me that these people actually got away with this. Faking one baby's death, then somehow explaining to the mother that this other baby was her baby. Not only that the funeral director would not allow her to take a picture, the baby did not look like the one described by her friend. Then they send her a picture, no return address, nothing but it had a family, and newborn baby in it. The baby looked exactly like her husband.

What are your thoughts on this case, its pretty clear that this baby was abducted but by whom?

The funeral director had to play some part in this, how could two families be greiving for the same baby and not ask each other questions? Wouldn't they, if they saw that there was no headstone, and that the presit was not saying the name of their child but of a different one? Then the funeral director taking her money, a few years later, to buy a headstone, knowing its not her baby. Then laying it off to the side, so techincally the other family can still buy a headstone, like they did decades later. This case is so damn confusing, I wish the program would get more into this, you could do an hour long show just on this story.

[JenniferS.]

Originally Posted by rarjake

Bump!!!

Wow, i can't believe i never sraw this story before. It really sickens me that these people actually got away with this. Faking one baby's death, then somehow explaining to the mother that this other baby was her baby. Not only that the funeral director would not allow her to take a picture, the baby did not look like the one described by her friend. Then they send her a picture, no return address, nothing but it had a family, and newborn baby in it. The baby looked exactly like her husband.

What are your thoughts on this case, its pretty clear that this baby was abducted but by whom?

The funeral director had to play some part in this, how could two families be greiving for the same baby and not ask each other questions? Wouldn't they, if they saw that there was no headstone, and that the presit was not saying the name of their child but of a different one? Then the funeral director taking her money, a few years later, to buy a headstone, knowing its not her baby. Then laying it off to the side, so techincally the other family can still buy a headstone, like they did decades later. This case is so damn confusing, I wish the program would get more into this, you could do an hour long show just on this story.

Boy you would think some one in the picture would recognize themeselves. Sounds like an illegal buisness practice to have a head stone put out were a baby is not buried. There is something a miss here. I smell a black market baby ring. Good reason to keep quiet if you bought a baby.

[DALLASTEXAN!!]

Hopefully this is solved one day.

[cmyweb]

Saw this on Lifetime again today. I was really hoping for an update. Is it possible that the picture they showed wasn't the real picture? I seem to recall reading something recently on the board about another reenactment that referenced a prop being used but the assumption was it was real. Wouldn't they have shown a close-up with better focus?

[Arnold_OldSchool]

This was definitely one of the better cases from the later seasons IMO.

[Latka Gravas]

Recently saw the Marlys Thomas/Mary Agnes Gross segment (S10). Extremely sad & heart-breaking that MT (the mother) never found out what happened to her daughter, MAG. After doing research on the case, I did read that MT passed in 2012.

Based on everything we saw in the segment, I am convinced that MT's family set it up so that the baby would be adopted out to another family & lied to her about the baby dying. As was said in an earlier post, this happened in the early 1960's & society wasn't as accepting of single parents as they are today. Also, MT's family may have felt that she wasn't able to financially support a baby daughter given her situation, etc.

Like some of these "Lost Love" segments, I'm unfortunately not surprised that there was never resolution to this case. If MT's suspicions were correct and MAG was adopted, as an adult - she probably wouldn't have known the details of her adoption and/or maybe she just didn't see the UM episode where the case was featured, etc. Or, maybe she was deceased by the time the segment aired (unlikely, given that she only would have been in her 30's), etc.