Ever think about this with women from sitcoms....

[LucyCompanyPhan]

I just realized this in a way, when you think or see a comedy in theaters the man is always the funnier than the women. I mean there are those few movies where a women stands out but usually are over shadowed by their leading Man. You think of comedians from movies and Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler, Will Smith, Will Ferrall, and Marxx brothers come to mind, but usually not a women...

but then you think, sitcoms and women tend to be more funnier than men. I'm sure you can argue that but I believe that men can't touch a women's sitcom performance. Carol Burnett, Lucille Ball, Mary tyler moore...Can't be touched. John Ritter may have been a genius at slapstick along with Dick Van Dyke but Lucille Ball owned slapstick humor. The cast of friends- all the characters are very funny but sometimes I think the women over shine the men.

Am I right? Men over shine Women in theater but when it comes to television women over shine men?

[factsoflife]

Well i think that Julia Roberts, Sally Field, Meryl Streep, Halle Berry, Faye Dunaway, Glen Close, Demi Moore, Nichole Kidman, Reene Zellwegger and many, many others would STRONGLY disagree with that...

[LucyCompanyPhan]

Originally posted by factsoflife
Well i think that Julia Roberts, Sally Field, Meryl Streep, Halle Berry, Faye Dunaway, Glen Close, Demi Moore, Nichole Kidman, Reene Zellwegger and many, many others would STRONGLY disagree with that...

Don't get me wrong, I would say that women are extremely funny and infact I am a GIRL and I was voted class clown in my school, so I know funny and I know alot of movies with women in there who are funny, but I would say *my* favorite comedies usually have the men being funnier than the women but in *my* favorite sitcoms the women are funnier than the men.

[factsoflife]

Originally posted by LucyCompanyPhan
Don't get me wrong, I would say that women are extremely funny and infact I am a GIRL and I was voted class clown in my school, so I know funny and I know alot of movies with women in there who are funny, but I would say *my* favorite comedies usually have the men being funnier than the women but in *my* favorite sitcoms the women are funnier than the men.

perhaps in YOUR favorites, but overall i'd say they are about equal.

[LucyCompanyPhan]

Originally posted by factsoflife
perhaps in YOUR favorites, but overall i'd say they are about equal.

i was just saying "have you ever thought about this...."

how could you say they are equal? What makes you think they are equal in both ways.

[Heather987]

TV like you stated John Ritter, Dick Van Dyke but there are lots more men that lead a comedy
Will and Grace the gay guy studying to be a Nurse he is hilarious
Ray Romano on Raymond
Will Smith on Fresh Prince
Scneider on One Day at a Time
Brian and Lowell on Wings
Jim - According to Jim
Al on Married with Children
Alex on Family Ties
I could go on forever

Movies
Drew Barrymore
Julia Roberts
Goldie Hawn
Bette Midler
Kate (Goldies daughter)

They are equal IMO, it is just a matter of what movies or shows you are watching....if you are going to see an Adam Sandler movie of course no one is going to write his co-star to be funnier then him so it all depends on who the comedic star of the show or movie is and then you can almost bet that the major comic is going to have the better comedy

[DianeChambers87]

Originally posted by LucyCompanyPhan
I just realized this in a way, when you think or see a comedy in theaters the man is always the funnier than the women. I mean there are those few movies where a women stands out but usually are over shadowed by their leading Man. You think of comedians from movies and Jim Carrey, Adam Sandler, Will Smith, Will Ferrall, and Marxx brothers come to mind, but usually not a women...

but then you think, sitcoms and women tend to be more funnier than men. I'm sure you can argue that but I believe that men can't touch a women's sitcom performance. Carol Burnett, Lucille Ball, Mary tyler moore...Can't be touched. John Ritter may have been a genius at slapstick along with Dick Van Dyke but Lucille Ball owned slapstick humor. The cast of friends- all the characters are very funny but sometimes I think the women over shine the men.

Am I right? Men over shine Women in theater but when it comes to television women over shine men?

Your right, when it comes to the movies women usually play the straight man.

[LucyCompanyPhan]

Originally posted by DianeChambers87
Your right, when it comes to the movies women usually play the straight man.

Thank you. Women play the straightman in movies and women over shine men in television. Theres nothing wrong with it. I'm not dissing either sex, but its rather odd I think the way that turns out.

I honestly think women are funnier than men on tv and men in movies are funnier than women. Drew Barrymore, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Godie Hawn.....I don't think they can touch the comic genuis of Jim Carrey, Will Ferrall, Adam Sandler...they even sell more at the box office. When you think comedy on tv, you right away hear Lucile Ball in your head. Mary Tyler Moore vs Dick Van Dyke? You can argue that either way. Carol Burnette. Laverne and Shirley...all great comic performances but I don't think any man could touch that.

[factsoflife]

Originally posted by LucyCompanyPhan
Thank you. Women play the straightman in movies and women over shine men in television. Theres nothing wrong with it. I'm not dissing either sex, but its rather odd I think the way that turns out.

I honestly think women are funnier than men on tv and men in movies are funnier than women. Drew Barrymore, Julia Roberts, Reese Witherspoon, Godie Hawn.....I don't think they can touch the comic genuis of Jim Carrey, Will Ferrall, Adam Sandler...they even sell more at the box office. When you think comedy on tv, you right away hear Lucile Ball in your head. Mary Tyler Moore vs Dick Van Dyke? You can argue that either way. Carol Burnette. Laverne and Shirley...all great comic performances but I don't think any man could touch that.

Did u just call Adam Sandler and Jim Carey COMIC GENUIES? and Will Farrell? Oh and last time i checked JULIA ROBERTS was the #! grossing female star ever... and her total is WELL ABOVE Carey, Sandler, Etc... Um it depends on which movies/tv shows u are watching.... but i'd hardly call Jim Carey, Will Farrell or Adam Sandler comic genuises...

True Comic Genuises-

Male-
Richard Pryor
John Candy
Steve Martin
Robin Williams
Eddie Murphy (back in the day)
And some others... but not Caredy, Sandler or Farell...

Females-
Carol Burnette
Betty White
LUCY BALL
Bea Arthur
Candace Bergin
Rue McClanahan
Estelle Getty
Mary Tyler-Moore
Rosie O'Donelle
Roseanne

[Jokerette]

My list (in no order and trying not to give repetitive replies):

(Men)
- Adam West
- Bill Murray
- Bruce Willis
- Michael J. Fox
- Ted Danson
- Kelsey Grammar

(Women)
- Bea Arthur, Betty White, Rue McClanahan and Estelle Getty
- Elizabeth Montgommery
- Goldie Hawn
- Marion Ross
- Jennifer Aniston
- Cybil Shephard
- Katey Segal

I'm sure there's many more I've forgotten to include

[LucyCompanyPhan]

Originally posted by factsoflife
Did u just call Adam Sandler and Jim Carey COMIC GENUIES? and Will Farrell? Oh and last time i checked JULIA ROBERTS was the #! grossing female star ever... and her total is WELL ABOVE Carey, Sandler, Etc... Um it depends on which movies/tv shows u are watching.... but i'd hardly call Jim Carey, Will Farrell or Adam Sandler comic genuises...

True Comic Genuises-

Male-
Richard Pryor
John Candy
Steve Martin
Robin Williams
Eddie Murphy (back in the day)
And some others... but not Caredy, Sandler or Farell...

Females-
Carol Burnette
Betty White
LUCY BALL
Bea Arthur
Candace Bergin
Rue McClanahan
Estelle Getty
Mary Tyler-Moore
Rosie O'Donelle
Roseanne

Julia Roberts isn't a comic genius. Shes just another actress. She doesn't do slapstick humor. Shes not witty. Shes just an actress. Most of her movies aren't even comedies. They're romantic or dramas. and Jim Carrey MAKES more money than Julia Roberts does. Julia gets 20 million a picture, Jim gets 20 +. He got nearly 25 million for the Grinch & Bruce Almighty. His movies do better than Julia Roberts movies. I'm a big julia Roberts fan, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't call her a comic actress. Jim Carrey is a genius in his comedy movies. Have you ever seen Liar Liar? Genius right there. Adam Sandler, may not be a favorite actor, but his movies are a hit whether or not how good they are. Will Farrell is on his way, just watch. By the beginning 2005 he'll be the next Jim Carrey. Elf was great. Old School, may have been the worse movie I saw in 2003 but Elf made up for it. You can't say they are geniuses. you don't know comedy then.

Men:
Jim Carrey
Will Ferrall
Adam Sandler
John Ritter
Desi Arnaz
Dick Van Dyke
Marxx Brothers
John Candy
Chris Farley
Matthew Perry
Tim Allen

Women
Lucille Ball
Jennifer Aniston
Goldie Hawn
Ellen Degeneres
Carol Burnett
Elizabeth Montgommery
Barbara Eden


I know im missing a bunch

[factsoflife]

Originally posted by LucyCompanyPhan
Julia Roberts isn't a comic genius. Shes just another actress. She doesn't do slapstick humor. Shes not witty. Shes just an actress. Most of her movies aren't even comedies. They're romantic or dramas. and Jim Carrey MAKES more money than Julia Roberts does. Julia gets 20 million a picture, Jim gets 20 +. He got nearly 25 million for the Grinch & Bruce Almighty. His movies do better than Julia Roberts movies. I'm a big julia Roberts fan, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't call her a comic actress. Jim Carrey is a genius in his comedy movies. Have you ever seen Liar Liar? Genius right there. Adam Sandler, may not be a favorite actor, but his movies are a hit whether or not how good they are. Will Farrell is on his way, just watch. By the beginning 2005 he'll be the next Jim Carrey. Elf was great. Old School, may have been the worse movie I saw in 2003 but Elf made up for it. You can't say they are geniuses. you don't know comedy then.

Men:
Jim Carrey
Will Ferrall
Adam Sandler
John Ritter
Desi Arnaz
Dick Van Dyke
Marxx Brothers
John Candy
Chris Farley
Matthew Perry
Tim Allen

Women
Lucille Ball
Jennifer Aniston
Goldie Hawn
Ellen Degeneres
Carol Burnett
Elizabeth Montgommery
Barbara Eden


I know im missing a bunch

Julia Roberts is one of the biggest stars alive today... for Erin Brokovich she got MORE THAN 25 MILLION dollars... I never said she was a comedy genuis... but to say i don't know comedy because i think that Jim Carey's sophmoric, lame and idiotic movies are GENUIS is just ridiculous... Adam Sandler? Funny yes, popular yes... GENUIS, NO... Also most of Julia Roberts movies are ROMANTIC COMEDIES...Ever seen Notting Hill, Mona Lisa Smile, Runaway Bride? All Romantic COMEIDES... She has a definet comedic streak... Also Will Farrell's ELF was funny i'll give u that, but he is not to be confused with a genuis.... Oh and Chris Farley is FAR from a genuis... he was an over-drugged, ompa-lompa who used the fact that he was overweight and drugged up to get laughs from the high-school crowd, no one took him serious as a comediane... I think the likes of Dezi Arnaz, Richard Prior, Robin Williams and so on would be totally offended to even be mentioned in the same company as him.... You obviously are either completley out-of-touch with genuis comedy or you are still in tenth grade, which would amount to about the same... What next Raven-Symone is a brillant actress with years of comedic genuis expierance under her belt?

[factsoflife]

Originally posted by Dream Sequence
My list (in no order and trying not to give repetitive replies):

(Men)
- Adam West
- Bill Murray
- Bruce Willis
- Michael J. Fox
- Ted Danson
- Kelsey Grammar

(Women)
- Bea Arthur, Betty White, Rue McClanahan and Estelle Getty
- Elizabeth Montgommery
- Goldie Hawn
- Marion Ross
- Jennifer Aniston
- Cybil Shephard
- Katey Segal

I'm sure there's many more I've forgotten to include

Mostly agree with you but is Adam West really a comedian? I'd say he was more of a decent actor who appeared in a mildy amusing adaptation of a comic book...

[Jokerette]

Hmm good point about Adam West, I included him because he always makes me laugh/smile, and he played up Batman as campy. Maybe he's not directly a commedian but he's a funny guy all the same IMHO.

[factsoflife]

Originally posted by Dream Sequence
Hmm good point about Adam West, I included him because he always makes me laugh/smile, and he played up Batman as campy. Maybe he's not directly a commedian but he's a funny guy all the same IMHO.

Ok i can accept that...