season 8 - the year I lost interest - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Dean Winchester · 12-19-2003, 05:14 AM

I notice Nick is now at the beginning of season 8. And all these years later (8 to be exact) hasn't helped this season at all. From 90-95, Roseanne was at the forefront of sitcoms, but season 8 was when I think the show came to a screeching halt. Season 7 showed signs that the show was starting to decline, but all in all, it was still good most of the time. By 1995-1996, shows like Seinfeld and Friends were taking Roseanne's spot, much like how Roseanne took the spot of Cosby and Family Ties in her day as well.

Does anyone else notice that the set looked different that season?

I know season 9 is hated passionately, but I would say the last season succeeded better than 8. If only for the fact that Roseanne was just playing along and doing what she wanted and the show got increasingly campy, while season 8 was mostly just "a bad season of Roseanne".

I still think the season 8 Halloween/childbirth episode is the absolute lowest point the show had. That episode and Roseambo would've never happened when Tom Arnold was around.

db108108 · 12-19-2003, 10:09 AM

No, the lowest point was the Disney episode, also in season 8. Just Wait for it, it'll come and you'll be in disbelief. It's truly horrible, totally out of character and just plain crappy.

Brent88 · 12-19-2003, 10:39 AM

The whole 8th Season was bad, but the Disney World 2-parter(which will be on December 22nd) was extremely bad...

db108108 · 12-19-2003, 11:35 AM

The Disney episode could have been great if the Conner's would have went and caused trouble, but instead it turned into a syngery-fest where everybody turned happy. It was the standard Disney episode. I think Disney must have one script that it gives to all shows that do a show there. They just adjust the character names.

HuntingtonM15 · 12-19-2003, 05:46 PM

I personally love season 8. My favorite episodes from it are "The Thrilla Near the Vanilla Extract" and "Construction Junction". Jackie is so beyond hilarious with the internet. I also like the Disney episodes.

mudshark82 · 12-19-2003, 07:04 PM

i gotta disagree about the season 8 halloween episode being awful. it may not have been the best one, maybe i'm just impartial to this one as my aviator would imply. i loved the way she worked jerry garcia in to an episode that season. they have always paid alot of respect to music of that era such as bonnie sheridan (bramlett) being a regular, david crosby guest starring and i'm sure there were a couple more. they have even refrenced going to dead concerts. seeing as jerry had just passed away that summer they had to do something to pay tribute to him. he wasnt like just another rocker that died, he was a cultural icon. maybe she couldve found a better way to work a tribute in to the show, but i will always love that episode.

oh yes, and as for seinfeld being the lowest point in tv history. i think more people will go against you then agree with you on that. i must say i'm a huge seinfeld/curb your enthusiasm fan.

Mr. Television · 12-20-2003, 02:34 AM

I had stopped watching it every week in season 8. I saw a few episodes and the quality of the show was going down. I did watch the wedding episode where Dan had his heartattack. I saw a few of the early episodes of season 9 and it was awful. I stopped watching it completely and only came back to watch the season finale which was a big disapointment.Seinfeld was great. It never fell as far as Roseanne. The first 6 seasons of Roseanne was great tv.

rdaughe966 · 12-21-2003, 02:28 AM

I have to disagree. I enjoyed Season 8 far more than Seasons 6 and 7, the show's lowest points, in my opinion.

With the return of Lecy, "Darlene" at home, and "Jackie" a single woman again, Season 8 felt like a (much-needed) return to form.
Granted, "Halloween: The Final Chapter" was one of the worst episodes of the series (the absolute worst being the two "Clip Shows"), but plenty of the Season 8 episodes have top-notch hilarity ("The Getaway, Almost"; "The 50s Show"; "Let Them Eat Junk"; "Roseanne in the Hood"; "December Bride"; "Thrilla ..."; "Ballroom Blitz").

And "Fights and Stuff" is impeccable.

HuntingtonM15 · 12-23-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by rdaughe966
I have to disagree. I enjoyed Season 8 far more than Seasons 6 and 7, the show's lowest points, in my opinion.

With the return of Lecy, "Darlene" at home, and "Jackie" a single woman again, Season 8 felt like a (much-needed) return to form.
Granted, "Halloween: The Final Chapter" was one of the worst episodes of the series (the absolute worst being the two "Clip Shows"), but plenty of the Season 8 episodes have top-notch hilarity ("The Getaway, Almost"; "The 50s Show"; "Let Them Eat Junk"; "Roseanne in the Hood"; "December Bride"; "Thrilla ..."; "Ballroom Blitz").

And "Fights and Stuff" is impeccable.

I agree. The majority of season 8 is excellent!

Brent88 · 12-23-2003, 10:18 PM

The more of Season 8 I watch... the more I have a favorable opinion of it. It doesn't seem to be too bad. It's not the best season, but it's better than the first couple of seasons IMO. I am dreading the 9th season though... most of those episodes are unwatchable.

DSFanForever · 12-23-2003, 11:01 PM

I AGREE WITH YOU. SEASONS 8 AND 9 WERE JUST PLAIN SH*TTY. THE SHOW WAS BEST IN ITS FIRST FOUR OR FIVE SEASONS, AND IT WASN'T BAD IN SEASONS 6 AND 7. THE LAST TWO SEASONS WERE JUST SO DIFFERENT AND HORRIBLE COMPARED TO THE OTHER WONDERFUL SEASONS. ROSEANNE ALWAYS HAD THE BEST HOLIDAY EPISODES. THE HALLOWEEN AND TURKEY-DAY EPISODES WERE ALWAYS STANDOUTS FOR ME. I WISH N@N WOULD NOT AIR THE LAST TWO SEASONS, BUT I GUESS THAT THEY SHOULD FOR CONTINUITY REASONS. THAT'S ALL FOR MY LITTLE RANT RIGHT NOW

MERRY HOLIDAY!

Beyotch Knowles · 12-24-2003, 12:19 AM

I'm catching up on season 8 this week. The whole season isn't that bad...it seemed to take a nosedive starting with the Disney World episode. The Disney episode is an all-time low. Instead of laughter, the audience was kept bursting out in applause...ALOT...For a moment I thought that Fonzie had walked in or that maybe I was watching Married with Children. They were clapping and laughing at stuff that wasn't even funny. Lying to bump strangers off a flight so that you can get their seats? hilarious. You can feel the Jerry Springer/Rikki Lake society influence here. Jackie has morphed into a neurotic nitwit. Mark is unbelievably dumb; he's a sitcom cliche now. Darlene's sarcastic put-downs are more mean than funny. But at least she doesn't get mad and threaten to run back to Chicago every single episode. And there are too many babies. Wow, maybe after the "All About Rosie" clip show, they felt they had already done everything and they just gave up.

The best episodes of season 8 are the lower-key ones where Roseanne is reflecting on life and real issues. Riding in the car with Jackie talking about rock music and feminism, encouraging Becky to go back to school, getting Dan to invite Leon and Scott to poker, Dan regretting his choices after his old band makes it big. The video tape for the baby was good, too. Even the Thanksgiving shoot-em-up wasn't that bad.

The best lines are her stand-up type one-liners about current events and other celebs.

Becky: I'm 21. I'm too old.
Roseanne: To date Jerry Seinfeld, yes...

Roseanne: I eat the same amount as those girls on "Friends"...only I don't throw it all up afterwards.

When she lands that gig as a local tv commentator and says to Jackie, "You are fired" and then says "that felt good". This is probably her way of laughing at all those tabloid stories about her firing everyone all the time.

On the air, she mentions a wedding cake and other things she'd like to have and then the manufacturers send her free samples. A low-key way of making fun of Rosie O'Donnell pushing all those things on her show for the freebies.

LecyGoransonfan · 12-25-2003, 10:56 PM

Though season 8 could've done better I still really like it. The order of seasons I like is season 4, 3, 1, 5, 8, 2, 6, 7, 9. I liked it because as someone said before they were going back to the way things used to be Becky and Darlene fighting all the time, Jackie becomes a single mother, The return of Lecy. The first episode is on my top 10 fav episodes too and I love the last 3 episodes with the whole heart-attack incident.

Dean Winchester · 12-25-2003, 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by LecyGoransonfan
Though season 8 could've done better I still really like it. The order of seasons I like is season 4, 3, 1, 5, 8, 2, 6, 7, 9. I liked it because as someone said before they were going back to the way things used to be Becky and Darlene fighting all the time, Jackie becomes a single mother, The return of Lecy. The first episode is on my top 10 fav episodes too and I love the last 3 episodes with the whole heart-attack incident.

since you ranked your fave seasons, I will too

5, 4, 6, 3, 7, 9, 8, 1, 2

I was never a big fan of the first 2 seasons, it wasn't until season 3 when the show really found it's own identity IMO. Seasons 8 and 9 aren't quite as bad watching them 7-8 years later, but still they aren't among the best the show did IMO. Seasons 3-7 were all stellar though I think.

Brent88 · 12-25-2003, 11:46 PM

I don't really like Season 1 or 2 though, but I like them better than Season 9. Season 3 through 7 were GREAT TV!!!

12-19-2003, 05:14 AM	#1
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	season 8 - the year I lost interest I notice Nick is now at the beginning of season 8. And all these years later (8 to be exact) hasn't helped this season at all. From 90-95, Roseanne was at the forefront of sitcoms, but season 8 was when I think the show came to a screeching halt. Season 7 showed signs that the show was starting to decline, but all in all, it was still good most of the time. By 1995-1996, shows like Seinfeld and Friends were taking Roseanne's spot, much like how Roseanne took the spot of Cosby and Family Ties in her day as well. Does anyone else notice that the set looked different that season? I know season 9 is hated passionately, but I would say the last season succeeded better than 8. If only for the fact that Roseanne was just playing along and doing what she wanted and the show got increasingly campy, while season 8 was mostly just "a bad season of Roseanne". I still think the season 8 Halloween/childbirth episode is the absolute lowest point the show had. That episode and Roseambo would've never happened when Tom Arnold was around.

12-19-2003, 10:39 AM	#3
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	The whole 8th Season was bad, but the Disney World 2-parter(which will be on December 22nd) was extremely bad...
	Last edited by Brent88; 12-19-2003 at 12:32 PM.

12-20-2003, 02:34 AM	#7
Mr. Television 23 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,133	I had stopped watching it every week in season 8. I saw a few episodes and the quality of the show was going down. I did watch the wedding episode where Dan had his heartattack. I saw a few of the early episodes of season 9 and it was awful. I stopped watching it completely and only came back to watch the season finale which was a big disapointment.Seinfeld was great. It never fell as far as Roseanne. The first 6 seasons of Roseanne was great tv.
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12-23-2003, 11:01 PM	#11
DSFanForever Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 29, 2002 Location: None of Your Business, NY Posts: 35	I AGREE WITH YOU I AGREE WITH YOU. SEASONS 8 AND 9 WERE JUST PLAIN SH*TTY. THE SHOW WAS BEST IN ITS FIRST FOUR OR FIVE SEASONS, AND IT WASN'T BAD IN SEASONS 6 AND 7. THE LAST TWO SEASONS WERE JUST SO DIFFERENT AND HORRIBLE COMPARED TO THE OTHER WONDERFUL SEASONS. ROSEANNE ALWAYS HAD THE BEST HOLIDAY EPISODES. THE HALLOWEEN AND TURKEY-DAY EPISODES WERE ALWAYS STANDOUTS FOR ME. I WISH N@N WOULD NOT AIR THE LAST TWO SEASONS, BUT I GUESS THAT THEY SHOULD FOR CONTINUITY REASONS. THAT'S ALL FOR MY LITTLE RANT RIGHT NOW MERRY HOLIDAY!
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12-25-2003, 10:56 PM	#13
LecyGoransonfan Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 21, 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 213	Though season 8 could've done better I still really like it. The order of seasons I like is season 4, 3, 1, 5, 8, 2, 6, 7, 9. I liked it because as someone said before they were going back to the way things used to be Becky and Darlene fighting all the time, Jackie becomes a single mother, The return of Lecy. The first episode is on my top 10 fav episodes too and I love the last 3 episodes with the whole heart-attack incident.
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12-19-2003, 10:09 AM	#2
db108108 Teacher (for now) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 20, 2003 Location: 2 hours north of Detroit, 2 hours south of Toronto Posts: 1,023	No, the lowest point was the Disney episode, also in season 8. Just Wait for it, it'll come and you'll be in disbelief. It's truly horrible, totally out of character and just plain crappy.

12-19-2003, 11:35 AM	#4
db108108 Teacher (for now) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 20, 2003 Location: 2 hours north of Detroit, 2 hours south of Toronto Posts: 1,023	The Disney episode could have been great if the Conner's would have went and caused trouble, but instead it turned into a syngery-fest where everybody turned happy. It was the standard Disney episode. I think Disney must have one script that it gives to all shows that do a show there. They just adjust the character names.

12-19-2003, 05:46 PM	#5
HuntingtonM15 That Bothers Me Moderator Forum Star Join Date: Jun 20, 2003 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 11,060	I personally love season 8. My favorite episodes from it are "The Thrilla Near the Vanilla Extract" and "Construction Junction". Jackie is so beyond hilarious with the internet. I also like the Disney episodes.

12-19-2003, 07:04 PM	#6
mudshark82 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 22, 2003 Posts: 185	i gotta disagree about the season 8 halloween episode being awful. it may not have been the best one, maybe i'm just impartial to this one as my aviator would imply. i loved the way she worked jerry garcia in to an episode that season. they have always paid alot of respect to music of that era such as bonnie sheridan (bramlett) being a regular, david crosby guest starring and i'm sure there were a couple more. they have even refrenced going to dead concerts. seeing as jerry had just passed away that summer they had to do something to pay tribute to him. he wasnt like just another rocker that died, he was a cultural icon. maybe she couldve found a better way to work a tribute in to the show, but i will always love that episode. oh yes, and as for seinfeld being the lowest point in tv history. i think more people will go against you then agree with you on that. i must say i'm a huge seinfeld/curb your enthusiasm fan.

12-21-2003, 02:28 AM	#8
rdaughe966 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 07, 2002 Posts: 13	I have to disagree. I enjoyed Season 8 far more than Seasons 6 and 7, the show's lowest points, in my opinion. With the return of Lecy, "Darlene" at home, and "Jackie" a single woman again, Season 8 felt like a (much-needed) return to form. Granted, "Halloween: The Final Chapter" was one of the worst episodes of the series (the absolute worst being the two "Clip Shows"), but plenty of the Season 8 episodes have top-notch hilarity ("The Getaway, Almost"; "The 50s Show"; "Let Them Eat Junk"; "Roseanne in the Hood"; "December Bride"; "Thrilla ..."; "Ballroom Blitz"). And "Fights and Stuff" is impeccable.

12-23-2003, 10:18 PM	#10
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	The more of Season 8 I watch... the more I have a favorable opinion of it. It doesn't seem to be too bad. It's not the best season, but it's better than the first couple of seasons IMO. I am dreading the 9th season though... most of those episodes are unwatchable.

12-24-2003, 12:19 AM	#12
Beyotch Knowles Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 27, 2003 Posts: 26	I'm catching up on season 8 this week. The whole season isn't that bad...it seemed to take a nosedive starting with the Disney World episode. The Disney episode is an all-time low. Instead of laughter, the audience was kept bursting out in applause...ALOT...For a moment I thought that Fonzie had walked in or that maybe I was watching Married with Children. They were clapping and laughing at stuff that wasn't even funny. Lying to bump strangers off a flight so that you can get their seats? hilarious. You can feel the Jerry Springer/Rikki Lake society influence here. Jackie has morphed into a neurotic nitwit. Mark is unbelievably dumb; he's a sitcom cliche now. Darlene's sarcastic put-downs are more mean than funny. But at least she doesn't get mad and threaten to run back to Chicago every single episode. And there are too many babies. Wow, maybe after the "All About Rosie" clip show, they felt they had already done everything and they just gave up. The best episodes of season 8 are the lower-key ones where Roseanne is reflecting on life and real issues. Riding in the car with Jackie talking about rock music and feminism, encouraging Becky to go back to school, getting Dan to invite Leon and Scott to poker, Dan regretting his choices after his old band makes it big. The video tape for the baby was good, too. Even the Thanksgiving shoot-em-up wasn't that bad. The best lines are her stand-up type one-liners about current events and other celebs. Becky: I'm 21. I'm too old. Roseanne: To date Jerry Seinfeld, yes... Roseanne: I eat the same amount as those girls on "Friends"...only I don't throw it all up afterwards. When she lands that gig as a local tv commentator and says to Jackie, "You are fired" and then says "that felt good". This is probably her way of laughing at all those tabloid stories about her firing everyone all the time. On the air, she mentions a wedding cake and other things she'd like to have and then the manufacturers send her free samples. A low-key way of making fun of Rosie O'Donnell pushing all those things on her show for the freebies.

12-25-2003, 11:46 PM	#15
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	I don't really like Season 1 or 2 though, but I like them better than Season 9. Season 3 through 7 were GREAT TV!!!