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Old 12-06-2003, 02:39 PM   #1
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"Yes, we have to say it. Remember, this is just a football game, no matter who wins or loses. An unspeakable tragedy, confirmed to us by ABC News in New York City. John Lennon, outside of his apartment building on the west side of New York City, the most famous, perhaps of all of the Beatles, shot twice in the back, rushed to Roosevelt Hospital, dead... on... arrival." -- Howard Cosell during December 8, 1980's Monday Night Football broadcast.
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Old 12-06-2003, 03:46 PM   #2
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I've seen the last days of John Lennon on "Behind the Music" about 2 years ago. Howard Costell heard about John Lennon's death as seen in the movie "Monday Night Mayhem". This had happened about 23 years ago that John Lennon was killed outside of the Dakota building in New York City. The album "Double Fantasy" was released just before his death.
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Double Fantasy was such a great album. I don't care what Yoko-bashers say, I also loved her stuff on the album, easily the most "pop" material she ever did (even tho her new wave album from 1983 comes close)
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It's still so hard to believe. I remember hearing the news like it happened yesterday. I was 22.
People were reeling for weeks and weeks, stunned beyond words.
I think it's the most profound loss in the music industry ever.
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it seemes like yesterday to me too if i remember right my nephew was turning 2 that day we were at his birthday party when we heard the news
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It's still so hard to believe. I remember hearing the news like it happened yesterday. I was 22.
People were reeling for weeks and weeks, stunned beyond words.
I think it's the most profound loss in the music industry ever.
Yeah! I was 30 at the time. I was bummed! I still am! Mark David Chapman............................
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Old 12-07-2003, 04:47 PM   #9
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This tribute to John appeared on George Harrison's 1981 album Somewhere In England. It's a very significant song, as all three then-surviving Beatles played on the track.

All Those Years Ago
(Harrison)

I'm shouting all about love
While they treated you like a dog
When you were the one who had made it so clear
All those years ago

I'm talking all about how to give
They don't act with much honesty
But you point the way to the truth when you say
"All you need is love"

Living with good and bad
I always looked up to you
Now we're left cold and sad
By someone the devil's best friend
Someone who offended all

We're living in a bad dream
They've forgotten all about mankind
And you were the one they backed up to the wall
All those years ago
You were the one who imagined it all
All those years ago

Deep in the darkest night
I send out a prayer to you
Now in the world of light
Where the spirit free of the lies
And all else that we despised

They've forgotten all about God
He's the only reason we exist
Yet you were the one that they said was so weird
All those years ago
You said it all though not many had ears
All those years ago
You had control of our smiles and our tears
All those years ago
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Old 12-07-2003, 04:50 PM   #10
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From the 1982 Paul McCartney album Tug Of War.

Here Today
(McCartney)

And if I said
I really knew you well
What would your answer be?
If you were here today.

Well, knowing you
You'd probably laugh and say
That we were worlds apart.
If you were here today.

But as for me
I still remember how it was before
And I am holding back the tears no more
I love you.

What about the time we met?
Well I suppose that you could say that
We were playing hard to get,
Didn't understand a thing
But we could always sing.

What about the night we cried?
Because there wasn't any reason left
To keep it all inside,
Never understood a word
But you were always there with a smile.

And if I say I really loved you
And was glad you came along,
Then you were here today,
For you were in my song
Here today.
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From the Elton John album Jump Up! (1982)

Empty Garden (Hey, Hey Johnny)
(John/Taupin)

What happened here,
As the New York sunset disappeared?
I found an empty garden among the flagstones there.
Who lived here?
He must have been a gardener that cared a lot,
Who weeded out the tears and grew a good crop.
And now it all looks strange.
It's funny how one insect can damage so much grain.

And what's it for,
This little empty garden by the brownstone door?
And in the cracks along the sidewalk nothing grows no more.
Who lived here?
He must have been a gardener that cared a lot,
Who weeded out the tears and grew a good crop.
And we are so amazed! We're crippled and we're dazed....
A gardener like that one, no one can replace.

And I've been knocking, but no one answers.
And I've been knocking, most all the day.
Oh and I've been calling,oh hey, hey, Johnny!
Can't you come out to play?

And through their tears,
Some say he farmed his best in younger years.
But he'd have said that roots grow stronger, if only he could hear.
Who lived there?
He must have been a gardener that cared a lot,
Who weeded out the tears and grew a good crop.
Now we pray for rain, and with every drop that falls.....
We hear, we hear your name.....

And I've been knocking, but no one answers.
And I've been knocking, most all the day.
Oh and I've been calling,oh hey, hey, Johnny!
Can't you come out to play,
In your empty garden?
Johnny?
Can't you come out to play, in your empty garden?
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Old 12-07-2003, 04:59 PM   #12
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From Sting's 1987 album, Nothing Like The Sun.

Fragile
(Sting)

If blood will flow when flesh and steel are one
Drying in the colour of the evening sun
Tomorrow's rain will wash the stains away
But something in our minds will always stay
Perhaps this final act was meant
To clinch a lifetime's argument
That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could
For all those born beneath an angry star
Lest we forget how fragile we are

On and on the rain will fall
Like tears from a star like tears from a star
On and on the rain will say
How fragile we are how fragile we are

On and on the rain will fall
Like tears from a star like tears from a star
On and on the rain will say
How fragile we are how fragile we are
How fragile we are how fragile we are
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:49 PM   #13
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Borrowed Time
(Lennon)

When I was younger
Living confusion and deep dispair
When I was younger ah hah
Living illusion of freedom and power

When I was younger
Full of ideas and broken dreams (my friend)
When I was younger ah hah
Everything simple but not so clear

Living on borrowed time
Without a thought for tomorrow
Living on borrowed time
Without a thought for tomorrow

Now I am older
The more that I see the less that I know for sure
Now I am older ah hah
The future is brighter and now is the hour

Living on borrowed time
Without a thought for tomorrow
Living on borrowed time
Without a thought for tomorrow

Good to be older
Would not exchange a single day or a year
Good to be older ah hah
Less complications everything clear

Living on borrowed time
Without a thought for tomorrow
Living on borrowed time
Without a thought for tomorrow

Oh yes, it all seemed so bloody easy then. You know, like what to wear, very serious-like, you know. How am I going to get rid of the pimples? Does she really love me? All that crap. But now I don't bother about that **** no more; I know she loves me.

All I gotta bother about is standing up.
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Old 12-08-2003, 06:26 PM   #14
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I'll always remember the day it happened. I was in 7th grade & I was getting ready for school, turned the radio on & the 1st thing I heard was his name & then that he'd died. I was already a huge Beatle fan at that point. I went straight to my mother's room & she was already up watching it on the news. No words.
I went to school in shock & I told the one other kid who was into the Beatles. John Rivera. He didn't believe me, until the other kids outside the school building around us confirmed it. I'll never forget the way he stood staring at the ground.

I think the one frustrating question that lingers for those who enjoy John's music is "What if?" It would've been incredible to see an inevitable Beatle reunion. I would've been very interested in hearing his opinions on the changing tides in popular music- hip hop/rap, grunge, the boybands, ClearChannel, downloading, RIAA, etc etc.


How can we go forward into something we're not sure of?...
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"......you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope someday you'll join us, and the world will live as one."

The world misses you John! RIP!

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