My theory on Adam Emery case, what do you think? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

trailblazer · 11-27-2003, 04:26 AM

I think after he got convicted for the murder of that innocent motorist whom he mistook for the driver of the car that slammed into his car, he & his wife went ahead with their plans. He faced 20 years to life for the murder and his sentencing hearing was a few weeks later.

There was a deaf woman who was an expert lip reader. The investigator used her to interpret what Adam & his wife were saying in the courtroom footage. It basically was them agreeing to go ahead with their plans.

I think his wife bought the weights just as a deliberate ruse so that when the investigators check her credit card purchases and so on they have clues that they had planned suicide. They intentionally left clues like that to build up the ruse. The weights were to be used in aiding their supposed suicide and weigh them down so that they will drown after jumping into the river.

I strongly think this because the shop keeper who sold her the weights reported she was very calm and did not appear nervous at all. This is not the type of demeanour of someone who is about to do something drastic like kill oneself that night by jumping off a bridge.

He also reported that she was very annoyed that the weights were so expensive. If you're going to kill yourself that night, I don't think you're gonna care whether or not the weights cost an extra $50 bucks more than you thought it did.

You're not going to be able to use your leftover money in your grave when you're dead so why would you care?

What I think was, she & and her husband wanted to fake a suicide by jumping of the bridge together and than disappear. Her husband was already convicted and awaiting a sentencing hearing which would likely end up with him being in prison for 20 years to life. But after the police searched the river and found absolutely nothing than they figured they must have staged their own fake suicides.

So I figured by this stage to get the authorities to believe that they are dead, Adam killed his wife and dumped her remains in the same river where he knew they will be found. This way her remains can be positively identified via DNA and dental records as his wife and that would lead the authorities to believe that he must also have commited suicide, or so he hoped.

They never wanted to commit suicide especially his wife.

But Adam decided since the authorities believe they faked it, perhaps he should murder his wife and dump her body in the river so that the authorities think they did do the suicide pact after all but are just still waiting to find his remains.

#1 Stack Fan · 11-29-2003, 11:34 PM

It would make perfect sense, and tie up all of the loose ends, i.e., the price at the sporting goods store, the fact that they only found her body, etc.

Sounds like it could be very possible.

Awsi Dooger · 12-01-2003, 04:13 AM

Together, on the day the car was found. And Adam Emery's remains WERE found, a male leg bone that a medical examiner thought was too short to belong to a man of Emery's height. Let's see, what's more likely: 1) the medical examiner was mistaken, or 2) someone else's abandoned leg bone was lounging around in the same specific area? Gee, tough call.

I realize this is blasphemous theory on the conspiracy-absorbed internet, but once in a while the guy who bought the rifle, snuck it to work, fled the scene and killed the cop is actually the person who committed the murder. And a couple of people who are disturbed enough to chase after someone who nudged their car, then isolate the wrong vehicle and kill the driver, are more than capable of making a few odd choices and comments when it comes to their final meal or the price of their last purchases.

If the same Adam Emery is ever found alive, I will gladly donate a lifetime supply of Whoppers to anyone who ever reads this.

trailblazer · 12-01-2003, 04:41 AM

The leg bone found was male but was proven by forensic science to be a male no taller than 5'7". Adam was over 6'1" tall, a huge difference.

So until Adam's remains are found, I believe he is alive. He has the sort of selfish personality whereas he only would care about himself. He has shown no remorse over the killing of the innocent motorist that he stabbed to death. He showed no remorse while the victim's mother was wailing in court after he got convicted. Only thing he & his wife had in mind was to fake a suicide and flee.

Faking TIMELY suicides and fleeing has been a common method for con artists, murderers, financial swindlers, as they are about to be appreheneded or charged etc. I see numerous instances of this on Unsolved Mysteries.

Why would he commit suicide for?

He fakes a suicide on the same day that he is convicted so that he can flee and escape his expected prison sentence. He probably changed his name, changed identiy and is living a new life. Other alternative was to spend 20 years to life in prison.

As far as his wife is concerned, Adam must have had a falling out with her later on and decided it was a good idea to kill her anyway and dump her remains in the river. It was positively identified as her remains to give the impression to the authorities that they did go ahead with their suicide pact when they never did.

His wife was smiling and chatty as reported by the shop keeper when she went to buy abodominal weights on the same night they supposedly committed suicide. Is this the sort of demeanour a person should have if he/she is about to kill themselves. And the fact that she was annoyed at the expensive price of the weights is an indication that they never planned on really killing themselves. It's all a deceptive ruse to leave traces on their credit cards so the cops would think they bought stuff to help kill themselves.

Awsi Dooger · 12-01-2003, 05:32 AM

Wild conspiratorial speculation can never be overcome with inconvenient facts. I experience that every day in Las Vegas sportsbooks, with losing bettors dismissing their failure with accusations that the game was fixed. That missed free throw followed by a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer was obviously scripted days earlier. Sure.

The Emery's car was found at the bridge, complete with IDs. They were seen at the nearby Burger King and sporting goods store. The lip reader caught her insisting on going thru with a plan. Her skull was located below the bridge. Only humans commit suicide, no other species. It's not exactly a rational game plan, so how can anyone assert that the Emery's actions regarding the price of the weights, etc. was not LOGICAL?

And there was never any PROOF that the leg bone was not Adam Emery's. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned that one supposed expert thought it was too short, based on height estimates. There was no mention of prior x-rays that asserted Adam Emery's leg bone was longer than the one found. There was no followup testimony from other specialists that leg bones of that type are in direct proportion to the height of the individual, and could not vary.

I'm certain the leg bone was indeed Adam Emery's. You conveniently overlooked my mention of the lounging leg bone, if it was not Adam Emery's. Any robust conspiratorial theory must account for that loose leg bone, and who it belongs to.

trailblazer · 12-01-2003, 07:57 AM

Together, on the day the car was found. And Adam Emery's remains WERE found, a male leg bone that a medical examiner thought was too short to belong to a man of Emery's height. Let's see, what's more likely: 1) the medical examiner was mistaken, or 2) someone else's abandoned leg bone was lounging around in the same specific area? Gee, tough call.

My Answer>>> The correct answer I think is #2. I think the leg bones belonged to a yet unidentified male stranger. I don't think they are Adam's Emery.

Wild conspiratorial speculation can never be overcome with inconvenient facts. I experience that every day in Las Vegas sportsbooks, with losing bettors dismissing their failure with accusations that the game was fixed. That missed free throw followed by a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer was obviously scripted days earlier. Sure.

My answer>> This is not sports betting or gambling. There's really no comparison there between that and faking suicides to avoid prison.

The Emery's car was found at the bridge, complete with IDs.

My answer>> And what does this mean? To you it might mean that they jumped off the bridge.

My Answer>> To me being cautious and not jumping to conclusions, I believe it is probably not. First they had deliberately & GLARINGLY left their IDs in their abandoned car. This tells me that they're trying to tell whoever finds their abandoned car, that this car belonged to Mr & Mrs Emery. It's part of their ruse to mislead the authorities that they had commited suicide by jumping off the bridge. You got conned by their ruse. If you are going to kill yourself, I don't think you could give a rat's ass if people believe you are dead or not (YOU'RE DEAD, WHY DOES IT MATTER?) so why go through all that trouble of leaving your IDs glaringly in the car to be discovered.

My Answer>> His wife bought the abdominal weights as a ruse to leave traces like the shop receipt & traces on her credit card at the sports store. His wife and him than deliberately made themselves be seen during the afternoon at the bridge so witnesses can say yeah that they were there alright "I saw them etc" . That's also part of their ruse. Later on that evening when the bridge was almost deserted Adam probably drove the car that was to be abandoned (with their IDs conveniently left in the car for anybody who finds it to know that this car belonged to the Emery's) to that part of the bridge. His wife probably drove behind in another 2nd car and picked him up and they both drove off leaving their abandoned car there with the IDs to give the impression that they both jumped to their deaths.

They were seen at the nearby Burger King and sporting goods store.

My Answer>> I told you the purchase of the abdominal weights was just a ruse to make it seem like they were buying stuff to aid in their suicide (abominal weights to help them drown). The storekeeper reported Mrs Emery was very chatty, smiling and calm when she made this purchase? I suppose when you're about to kill yourself you are happy & cheerful? She didn't have to kill herself, her husband was going to prison, not her. She wanted to pretend she's doing a suicide pact with her husband so that she can disappear too. If her husband disappears & she still around, she is going to be INTERROGATED & GRILLED about her husband's disappearance.

The lip reader caught her insisting on going thru with a plan.

My Answer>> Yes that was correct. The plan was to fake the suicide pact to mislead authorities and flee & disappear so that Adam Emery can escape HIS IMPENDING PRISON SENTENCE OF 20 YRS TO LIFE. In a few weeks he was to go to be sentenced. He's already been convicted. He's GOING TO PRISON MAN FOR 20 YRS TO LIFE FOR MURDER.

Her skull was located below the bridge.

My Answer>> After her husband killed her, he chose wisely to dump her body off the bridge at that location knowing it was gonna be found. Her husband figured that if he killed his wife and dumped her remains there, that would make people think they really did commit suicide and the authorities can close the case. He figured than the authorities would get off his back. Obviously his plan worked, some people including you believed it.

Only humans commit suicide, no other species.

>>> I know that. But when somebody has been swindling people of money and than the cover is blown and the cops are about to charge him/her it is in their interest to fake a suicide so that the cops can close the case thinking the suspect is dead. Faking suicide will get the authorities off your back, case closed, suspect is dead. Think about it. The suspect can go on living a new life under a new identity.

It's not exactly a rational game plan, so how can anyone assert that the Emery's actions regarding the price of the weights, etc. was not LOGICAL?

My Answer>> If you're gonna kill yourself, I don't think you will even fuss about the little extra price of the adbominal weights you're buying man. Think about it. The shop owner noted to the police that Mrs Emery was quite pissed that it was pricier than she thought it would be. That tells me she did not plan on killing herself as she still valued saving money. Would you care about saving "a little" money if you're going to shoot yourself dead tonight?

And there was never any PROOF that the leg bone was not Adam Emery's. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned that one supposed expert thought it was too short, based on height estimates. There was no mention of prior x-rays that asserted Adam Emery's leg bone was longer than the one found. There was no followup testimony from other specialists that leg bones of that type are in direct proportion to the height of the individual, and could not vary.

My answer>>> The leg bone according to the forensic sciences examnations were determined to be a male no taller than 5'7". Adam Emery was over 6'1". They were not his. You can not have a person 6'1" with a leg bone that only males 5'7" generally have. And they were never genetically proven to be his. If you have conclusive proof that he is dead, like his remains with genetic testing or dental record matches, than I will say he is dead. Till now everything points to me that he is alive and faked his suicide and killed his wife to help with the ruse. Well seeing that you believe he is dead, his ruse has worked & conned some people. The leg bones could have belonged to a transient that jumped off the bridge because he was depressed. There are people who commit suicide by jumping off the bridges. Probably belonged to a stranger.

I'm certain the leg bone was indeed Adam Emery's. You conveniently overlooked my mention of the lounging leg bone, if it was not Adam Emery's. Any robust conspiratorial theory must account for that loose leg bone, and who it belongs to.

My Answer>>> I think those Forensic Scientists with college degrees and years of experience in this type of work can tell you that the leg bones are not his. I take their word for it, I being a laymen, they being professional with forensics who know what they are talking about.

trailblazer · 12-01-2003, 08:08 AM

Right after their abandoned car was found, that river was THOROUGHLY SEARCHED THROUGH AND THROUGH, and nothing was found! except a male leg bone that was determined to be a male unidentified stranger 5'7" and under. Adam Emery was well over 6'1".
If she had commited suicide wouldn't they have found her remains right away????????? Doesn't make sense.

So after a time being, with all the leads strongly pointing to a FAKE suicide pact (Part of the Emery's ruse to mislead authorities so that Adam could escaping serving 20 years to life in prison), Adam killed his wife. He than dumped her remains into that river where he knew it would be found. Her remains by genetic testing and dental record matching has PROVEN POSITIVELY to be Mrs Emery.

I say he's alive.

crystaldawn · 12-01-2003, 08:43 AM

I'm really on the fence about whether Adam Emery is alive. I keep getting this bizarre picture in my mind of him and Elena standing on the edge of the bridge and jumping off at the count of 3. When Elena jumps after 3, he just stands there. One thing that did occur to me though. If Adam didn't jump he would need some help with money and transportation possibly from his family to be living in hiding. If that was the case, his and her family both know now that Elena is dead, so that wouldn't make him look too good in their eyes.

FanfromES · 12-01-2003, 05:18 PM

I havent seen this episode but i know something for sure: if theres a chance of Adam being alive, authorities shouldnt have certified his death, did they?

Maybe certain details about this incident had been kept from UM, or maybe UM didnt show some facts that would make the case less mysterious (i know this sounds like blasphemy here, but its a common practice in media industry, boring stories dont sell!!!)

Theres a way to be sure about the leg: What about DNA tests?

Maybe the case is solved now but we'll never know since there arent more updates...

Dilly · 12-02-2003, 02:10 AM

If they searched the water as thoroughly as they say, where is the rest of Elena? It's very possible his body is with the rest of hers.
I get the impression he wasn't a career criminal and just had one horrible night of anger and revenge. He killed an innocent man and maybe that was too much for him.

Thats why I think they committed suicide. Why they chose this way out I don't know and when someone is convicted, shouldn't they immediately go to prison? Very confused about laws and all the details.

canadianmysterygrl · 12-19-2003, 09:38 PM

I'm 100 % with Trailblazer on this one. I do not think Adam is dead and I do agree he killed his wife.

TeresaB24 · 12-21-2003, 12:06 AM

I think Adam is alive and well some where, hopefully no where near me. I think he killed his wife either that or they both went there to do it togather and he chickened out afer she jumped in. But that is just my opinion.

And as for the car and Id's being found that was just part of the setup he probably has a new identity, I think he planned on not jumping and letting her go ahead with it. This is just a sad case to begin with.

Teresa

dks64 · 07-23-2012, 05:09 PM

Old thread, but I just watched the segment. I think it's very likely Adam is still alive and didn't commit suicide. Even before I read the replies on this forum, I thought it's likely he let her jump by herself or he pushed her. It's very likely he survived the night, IMO.

1990 UM fan · 07-23-2012, 06:27 PM

I think he found a look-alike and that man and Elena jumped to their deaths (or were "murdered") to throw police off their trail so Adam could run off and hide/start a new life. The leg bones found in the bay were from a male no taller than 5'7. Adam Emery is 6'1. I don't see the need for anyone to jump off a bridge to cover for a killer, why couldn't they both just have fled and not just Adam? She gave up her life so Adam could live as a criminal on the run? Love, if you can call it that, makes people do strange things.

WishfulDreamer · 07-23-2012, 06:53 PM

I don't agree with Elena jumping off with a lookalike, though I think that's an interesting theory. Him being alive makes me think they may have really had a suicide pact and she jumped, he didn't or that he killed/pushed her and fled. He could ,of course, be dead in the water but I think it's likely he's on the run hoping people think he's dead. I'm just not 100% convinced either way.

11-29-2003, 11:34 PM	#2
#1 Stack Fan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 16, 2003 Location: Home of the Mardi Gras Posts: 22	I think that's a pretty good theory.... It would make perfect sense, and tie up all of the loose ends, i.e., the price at the sporting goods store, the fact that they only found her body, etc. Sounds like it could be very possible.
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12-01-2003, 04:13 AM	#3
Awsi Dooger Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 1,537	I would like to wager every planetary cent they commited suicide Together, on the day the car was found. And Adam Emery's remains WERE found, a male leg bone that a medical examiner thought was too short to belong to a man of Emery's height. Let's see, what's more likely: 1) the medical examiner was mistaken, or 2) someone else's abandoned leg bone was lounging around in the same specific area? Gee, tough call. I realize this is blasphemous theory on the conspiracy-absorbed internet, but once in a while the guy who bought the rifle, snuck it to work, fled the scene and killed the cop is actually the person who committed the murder. And a couple of people who are disturbed enough to chase after someone who nudged their car, then isolate the wrong vehicle and kill the driver, are more than capable of making a few odd choices and comments when it comes to their final meal or the price of their last purchases. If the same Adam Emery is ever found alive, I will gladly donate a lifetime supply of Whoppers to anyone who ever reads this.

12-01-2003, 04:41 AM	#4
trailblazer Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 07, 2003 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 30	I believe Adam Emery is still alive and it's logical. The leg bone found was male but was proven by forensic science to be a male no taller than 5'7". Adam was over 6'1" tall, a huge difference. So until Adam's remains are found, I believe he is alive. He has the sort of selfish personality whereas he only would care about himself. He has shown no remorse over the killing of the innocent motorist that he stabbed to death. He showed no remorse while the victim's mother was wailing in court after he got convicted. Only thing he & his wife had in mind was to fake a suicide and flee. Faking TIMELY suicides and fleeing has been a common method for con artists, murderers, financial swindlers, as they are about to be appreheneded or charged etc. I see numerous instances of this on Unsolved Mysteries. Why would he commit suicide for? He fakes a suicide on the same day that he is convicted so that he can flee and escape his expected prison sentence. He probably changed his name, changed identiy and is living a new life. Other alternative was to spend 20 years to life in prison. As far as his wife is concerned, Adam must have had a falling out with her later on and decided it was a good idea to kill her anyway and dump her remains in the river. It was positively identified as her remains to give the impression to the authorities that they did go ahead with their suicide pact when they never did. His wife was smiling and chatty as reported by the shop keeper when she went to buy abodominal weights on the same night they supposedly committed suicide. Is this the sort of demeanour a person should have if he/she is about to kill themselves. And the fact that she was annoyed at the expensive price of the weights is an indication that they never planned on really killing themselves. It's all a deceptive ruse to leave traces on their credit cards so the cops would think they bought stuff to help kill themselves.

12-01-2003, 05:32 AM	#5
Awsi Dooger Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 1,537	Every FACT supports two suicides Wild conspiratorial speculation can never be overcome with inconvenient facts. I experience that every day in Las Vegas sportsbooks, with losing bettors dismissing their failure with accusations that the game was fixed. That missed free throw followed by a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer was obviously scripted days earlier. Sure. The Emery's car was found at the bridge, complete with IDs. They were seen at the nearby Burger King and sporting goods store. The lip reader caught her insisting on going thru with a plan. Her skull was located below the bridge. Only humans commit suicide, no other species. It's not exactly a rational game plan, so how can anyone assert that the Emery's actions regarding the price of the weights, etc. was not LOGICAL? And there was never any PROOF that the leg bone was not Adam Emery's. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned that one supposed expert thought it was too short, based on height estimates. There was no mention of prior x-rays that asserted Adam Emery's leg bone was longer than the one found. There was no followup testimony from other specialists that leg bones of that type are in direct proportion to the height of the individual, and could not vary. I'm certain the leg bone was indeed Adam Emery's. You conveniently overlooked my mention of the lounging leg bone, if it was not Adam Emery's. Any robust conspiratorial theory must account for that loose leg bone, and who it belongs to.

12-01-2003, 07:57 AM	#6
trailblazer Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 07, 2003 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 30	I'M TELLING YOU HE FAKED SUICIDE. ADAM IS ALIVE. Together, on the day the car was found. And Adam Emery's remains WERE found, a male leg bone that a medical examiner thought was too short to belong to a man of Emery's height. Let's see, what's more likely: 1) the medical examiner was mistaken, or 2) someone else's abandoned leg bone was lounging around in the same specific area? Gee, tough call. My Answer>>> The correct answer I think is #2. I think the leg bones belonged to a yet unidentified male stranger. I don't think they are Adam's Emery. Wild conspiratorial speculation can never be overcome with inconvenient facts. I experience that every day in Las Vegas sportsbooks, with losing bettors dismissing their failure with accusations that the game was fixed. That missed free throw followed by a 30 foot jumper at the buzzer was obviously scripted days earlier. Sure. My answer>> This is not sports betting or gambling. There's really no comparison there between that and faking suicides to avoid prison. The Emery's car was found at the bridge, complete with IDs. My answer>> And what does this mean? To you it might mean that they jumped off the bridge. My Answer>> To me being cautious and not jumping to conclusions, I believe it is probably not. First they had deliberately & GLARINGLY left their IDs in their abandoned car. This tells me that they're trying to tell whoever finds their abandoned car, that this car belonged to Mr & Mrs Emery. It's part of their ruse to mislead the authorities that they had commited suicide by jumping off the bridge. You got conned by their ruse. If you are going to kill yourself, I don't think you could give a rat's ass if people believe you are dead or not (YOU'RE DEAD, WHY DOES IT MATTER?) so why go through all that trouble of leaving your IDs glaringly in the car to be discovered. My Answer>> His wife bought the abdominal weights as a ruse to leave traces like the shop receipt & traces on her credit card at the sports store. His wife and him than deliberately made themselves be seen during the afternoon at the bridge so witnesses can say yeah that they were there alright "I saw them etc" . That's also part of their ruse. Later on that evening when the bridge was almost deserted Adam probably drove the car that was to be abandoned (with their IDs conveniently left in the car for anybody who finds it to know that this car belonged to the Emery's) to that part of the bridge. His wife probably drove behind in another 2nd car and picked him up and they both drove off leaving their abandoned car there with the IDs to give the impression that they both jumped to their deaths. They were seen at the nearby Burger King and sporting goods store. My Answer>> I told you the purchase of the abdominal weights was just a ruse to make it seem like they were buying stuff to aid in their suicide (abominal weights to help them drown). The storekeeper reported Mrs Emery was very chatty, smiling and calm when she made this purchase? I suppose when you're about to kill yourself you are happy & cheerful? She didn't have to kill herself, her husband was going to prison, not her. She wanted to pretend she's doing a suicide pact with her husband so that she can disappear too. If her husband disappears & she still around, she is going to be INTERROGATED & GRILLED about her husband's disappearance. The lip reader caught her insisting on going thru with a plan. My Answer>> Yes that was correct. The plan was to fake the suicide pact to mislead authorities and flee & disappear so that Adam Emery can escape HIS IMPENDING PRISON SENTENCE OF 20 YRS TO LIFE. In a few weeks he was to go to be sentenced. He's already been convicted. He's GOING TO PRISON MAN FOR 20 YRS TO LIFE FOR MURDER. Her skull was located below the bridge. My Answer>> After her husband killed her, he chose wisely to dump her body off the bridge at that location knowing it was gonna be found. Her husband figured that if he killed his wife and dumped her remains there, that would make people think they really did commit suicide and the authorities can close the case. He figured than the authorities would get off his back. Obviously his plan worked, some people including you believed it. Only humans commit suicide, no other species. >>> I know that. But when somebody has been swindling people of money and than the cover is blown and the cops are about to charge him/her it is in their interest to fake a suicide so that the cops can close the case thinking the suspect is dead. Faking suicide will get the authorities off your back, case closed, suspect is dead. Think about it. The suspect can go on living a new life under a new identity. It's not exactly a rational game plan, so how can anyone assert that the Emery's actions regarding the price of the weights, etc. was not LOGICAL? My Answer>> If you're gonna kill yourself, I don't think you will even fuss about the little extra price of the adbominal weights you're buying man. Think about it. The shop owner noted to the police that Mrs Emery was quite pissed that it was pricier than she thought it would be. That tells me she did not plan on killing herself as she still valued saving money. Would you care about saving "a little" money if you're going to shoot yourself dead tonight? And there was never any PROOF that the leg bone was not Adam Emery's. Unsolved Mysteries mentioned that one supposed expert thought it was too short, based on height estimates. There was no mention of prior x-rays that asserted Adam Emery's leg bone was longer than the one found. There was no followup testimony from other specialists that leg bones of that type are in direct proportion to the height of the individual, and could not vary. My answer>>> The leg bone according to the forensic sciences examnations were determined to be a male no taller than 5'7". Adam Emery was over 6'1". They were not his. You can not have a person 6'1" with a leg bone that only males 5'7" generally have. And they were never genetically proven to be his. If you have conclusive proof that he is dead, like his remains with genetic testing or dental record matches, than I will say he is dead. Till now everything points to me that he is alive and faked his suicide and killed his wife to help with the ruse. Well seeing that you believe he is dead, his ruse has worked & conned some people. The leg bones could have belonged to a transient that jumped off the bridge because he was depressed. There are people who commit suicide by jumping off the bridges. Probably belonged to a stranger. I'm certain the leg bone was indeed Adam Emery's. You conveniently overlooked my mention of the lounging leg bone, if it was not Adam Emery's. Any robust conspiratorial theory must account for that loose leg bone, and who it belongs to. My Answer>>> I think those Forensic Scientists with college degrees and years of experience in this type of work can tell you that the leg bones are not his. I take their word for it, I being a laymen, they being professional with forensics who know what they are talking about.

11-27-2003, 04:26 AM	#1
trailblazer Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 07, 2003 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 30	My theory on Adam Emery case, what do you think? I think after he got convicted for the murder of that innocent motorist whom he mistook for the driver of the car that slammed into his car, he & his wife went ahead with their plans. He faced 20 years to life for the murder and his sentencing hearing was a few weeks later. There was a deaf woman who was an expert lip reader. The investigator used her to interpret what Adam & his wife were saying in the courtroom footage. It basically was them agreeing to go ahead with their plans. I think his wife bought the weights just as a deliberate ruse so that when the investigators check her credit card purchases and so on they have clues that they had planned suicide. They intentionally left clues like that to build up the ruse. The weights were to be used in aiding their supposed suicide and weigh them down so that they will drown after jumping into the river. I strongly think this because the shop keeper who sold her the weights reported she was very calm and did not appear nervous at all. This is not the type of demeanour of someone who is about to do something drastic like kill oneself that night by jumping off a bridge. He also reported that she was very annoyed that the weights were so expensive. If you're going to kill yourself that night, I don't think you're gonna care whether or not the weights cost an extra $50 bucks more than you thought it did. You're not going to be able to use your leftover money in your grave when you're dead so why would you care? What I think was, she & and her husband wanted to fake a suicide by jumping of the bridge together and than disappear. Her husband was already convicted and awaiting a sentencing hearing which would likely end up with him being in prison for 20 years to life. But after the police searched the river and found absolutely nothing than they figured they must have staged their own fake suicides. So I figured by this stage to get the authorities to believe that they are dead, Adam killed his wife and dumped her remains in the same river where he knew they will be found. This way her remains can be positively identified via DNA and dental records as his wife and that would lead the authorities to believe that he must also have commited suicide, or so he hoped. They never wanted to commit suicide especially his wife. But Adam decided since the authorities believe they faked it, perhaps he should murder his wife and dump her body in the river so that the authorities think they did do the suicide pact after all but are just still waiting to find his remains.

12-01-2003, 08:08 AM	#7
trailblazer Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 07, 2003 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 30	ALSO, ONE MORE FACT. Right after their abandoned car was found, that river was THOROUGHLY SEARCHED THROUGH AND THROUGH, and nothing was found! except a male leg bone that was determined to be a male unidentified stranger 5'7" and under. Adam Emery was well over 6'1". If she had commited suicide wouldn't they have found her remains right away????????? Doesn't make sense. So after a time being, with all the leads strongly pointing to a FAKE suicide pact (Part of the Emery's ruse to mislead authorities so that Adam could escaping serving 20 years to life in prison), Adam killed his wife. He than dumped her remains into that river where he knew it would be found. Her remains by genetic testing and dental record matching has PROVEN POSITIVELY to be Mrs Emery. I say he's alive.

12-01-2003, 08:43 AM	#8
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I'm really on the fence about whether Adam Emery is alive. I keep getting this bizarre picture in my mind of him and Elena standing on the edge of the bridge and jumping off at the count of 3. When Elena jumps after 3, he just stands there. One thing that did occur to me though. If Adam didn't jump he would need some help with money and transportation possibly from his family to be living in hiding. If that was the case, his and her family both know now that Elena is dead, so that wouldn't make him look too good in their eyes.

12-01-2003, 05:18 PM	#9
FanfromES televidente Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 06, 2002 Location: el salvador central america Posts: 161	Mis dos centavos I havent seen this episode but i know something for sure: if theres a chance of Adam being alive, authorities shouldnt have certified his death, did they? Maybe certain details about this incident had been kept from UM, or maybe UM didnt show some facts that would make the case less mysterious (i know this sounds like blasphemy here, but its a common practice in media industry, boring stories dont sell!!!) Theres a way to be sure about the leg: What about DNA tests? Maybe the case is solved now but we'll never know since there arent more updates...

12-02-2003, 02:10 AM	#10
Dilly Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 03, 2003 Location: California Posts: 133	If they searched the water as thoroughly as they say, where is the rest of Elena? It's very possible his body is with the rest of hers. I get the impression he wasn't a career criminal and just had one horrible night of anger and revenge. He killed an innocent man and maybe that was too much for him. Thats why I think they committed suicide. Why they chose this way out I don't know and when someone is convicted, shouldn't they immediately go to prison? Very confused about laws and all the details.

12-19-2003, 09:38 PM	#11
canadianmysterygrl Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 20, 2003 Location: Vanouver British Columbia Canada Posts: 99	I'm 100 % with Trailblazer on this one. I do not think Adam is dead and I do agree he killed his wife.

12-21-2003, 12:06 AM	#12
TeresaB24 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Location: Norfolk, VA Posts: 48	I think Adam is alive and well some where, hopefully no where near me. I think he killed his wife either that or they both went there to do it togather and he chickened out afer she jumped in. But that is just my opinion. And as for the car and Id's being found that was just part of the setup he probably has a new identity, I think he planned on not jumping and letting her go ahead with it. This is just a sad case to begin with. Teresa
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07-23-2012, 05:09 PM	#13
dks64 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 02, 2010 Location: California Posts: 373	Old thread, but I just watched the segment. I think it's very likely Adam is still alive and didn't commit suicide. Even before I read the replies on this forum, I thought it's likely he let her jump by herself or he pushed her. It's very likely he survived the night, IMO.

07-23-2012, 06:27 PM	#14
1990 UM fan Unsolved Mysteries fanatic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2011 Location: United States Posts: 2,510	I think he found a look-alike and that man and Elena jumped to their deaths (or were "murdered") to throw police off their trail so Adam could run off and hide/start a new life. The leg bones found in the bay were from a male no taller than 5'7. Adam Emery is 6'1. I don't see the need for anyone to jump off a bridge to cover for a killer, why couldn't they both just have fled and not just Adam? She gave up her life so Adam could live as a criminal on the run? Love, if you can call it that, makes people do strange things.
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07-23-2012, 06:53 PM	#15
WishfulDreamer Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 01, 2009 Location: L.A. Posts: 3,868	I don't agree with Elena jumping off with a lookalike, though I think that's an interesting theory. Him being alive makes me think they may have really had a suicide pact and she jumped, he didn't or that he killed/pushed her and fled. He could ,of course, be dead in the water but I think it's likely he's on the run hoping people think he's dead. I'm just not 100% convinced either way.